Games for this feel

It's more like accomodation and the drastic change of the nature of work in less than a century that came with technological advancements (children are no longer potential helping hand in the farm work, since farming is not the economical baseline, or another salary for the house in industrial work, since that's outlawed on many places, so they just become a financial sink until 16), but yeah.

People have having less kids because the boomers raped the economy. No one can afford to shit out 8 kids like they did.

and their children grow up in abject poverty and turn into criminals because they lack a stable home life and have parents that treat them as a means to a paycheck instead of growing human beings. and your solution to this is to try to convince poor white people to subject themselves and their children to this too just so that there are more white people in the world so you can pretend to one-up the minorities at their own death spiral. you're legitimately insane.

Why? We're the only point of this planet.

Because people keep falling for the "live in the city" meme

I just bought a property in rural Oregon with a subsidized loan specifically made for poorfags. I make only $16 an hour and can support myself and my partner just fine. All the people I hear about having these issues refuse to leave the big cities or just don't know better.

but after we're gone, then what? what's the point of this exactly?

A boomer would have bought your home for 1/4 of the relative price.

good job man

That's true. I'm just saying there are options even if the options aren't as good as our predecessors had.

fuck know, let mold take over for all i care
im with that user but a big ass asteroid would be more kino imo and maybe bring a new lifeform with it

>but it must happen
why? because your own life has no meaning and so you project your sense of destructive nihilism onto everyone else? fuck off retard. if you want out so badly there's nothing stopping you from killing yourself.

>implying mohammed wont have 16 kids living off child support from your taxes

What point would that be? Humans get born to die and they just keep making more for what purpose? That's some serious circular ""logic"". Instead of asking me why we should stop, you should ask yourself why we should keep going.

Then nothing. We're already living on borrowed time anyway, and the end is coming eventually. Why resist? Humanity is a flash in the pan, an abnormality that was never needed and will not be missed. Quit fetishising life.

Have sex

Exactly so let's take in millions of uneducated low-skilled migrants every year and add to it. And don't you dare complain or else we'll ruin your life because of "hate speech"

No we're not.

If you think the existence of humanity has any meaning you're a fucking idiot.

We're a biological mistake but we can just make the best of it.

>le no point in life!
Ah, I remember when I was 14...

Me killing myself solves nothing. There will always be retards like you around (well not you but someone like you who gets laid) that are slaves to this absurd notion of a natural system of perpetuating death, so we need this to be solved politically and to be enforced. I think that most people of some learning can be persuaded, but thirdies and fundamentalists probably won't. They will have to be made to comply.

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I live rural, I know what you mean. It's just totally reasonable to be irritated.
Speak for yourself. Welfare in my country is fairly restrictive.
Because almost nothing else on this planet is capable of art or self reflection or anything intelligent life should do.

now just a couple more years and you'll be allowed to post here

So I should subject a dozen kids to a shitty life because someone else made the decision to? I thought you types were meant to be about avoiding the mistakes of inferior races, not trying to out-stupid them.

I agree, I think people find it difficult to support children financially and that makes them question the point of even having children. But the propagation of antinatalist sentiments will undoubtedly affect future generations. Kids that are raised with the mentality of "Life is meaningless, kids are too expensive, abort your kids, consume and obey" are going to perpetuate the problem instead of solve it.

Not inherent spiritual meaning, but meaning compared to literally anything else. IF we off ourselves it should be for a reason, why would we do that when we're the best thing out there.

Why arent people like you the first to off themselves? Genuine question

There's no purpose to life, but there's no purpose to death or non-existence either. We have a strong biological drive to remain alive and to produce more of our kind, so why shouldn't we? After all, if there is no meaning, what does it matter if we destroy the planet or whatever?

I like living
A lot of other people do too
The option to opt out of living has always been there, theres no need to enforce death on others

Because living to see his vision to come true is much more satisfying

>lol what's the point of keeping food in a fridge, it'll rot anyway
>lol what's the point of waiting 9 months for a baby, lets just get the fetus out
>lol what's the point of microwaving food lmao, i'm just gonna dump hot fucking lava on it, same result
maybe just admit you don't wanna live anymore if you have that kind of mindset? accelerationism is fucking stupid

>if there is no meaning, what does it matter if we destroy the planet or whatever?
There is no meaning but ego will always win out in the end.

>Life is meaningless, kids are too expensive, abort your kids, consume and obey
>antinatalism is tied to consumerism and subservience
Explain

More circular bullshit? Humans because humans? Funny how you're justifying this supposedly precious existence of ours by pointing out its masturbatory nature. This thirst for life is frankly disgusting and is just a product of fear. You will fucking die and that will be it, and putting more retards into this world will not solve that for you.

The purpose is to take control of our existence by ending it. We're slaves in the current system, but by taking charge of it and ending it on our own premises we become free.

And live you will. We merely should just stop making new people.

Max Payne 3.

>Me killing myself solves nothing. There will always be retards like you around
why do you care? you'll be dead. if all whiny nihilists like you took this option the world would be a better place; you all won't have to deal with the absurdities of life anymore and the world would be rid of doomsaying fuckwits that actively support their own demise. it's a win-win.

>that are slaves to this absurd notion of a natural system of perpetuating death,
except i'm not advocating death. you're the one advocating death here by saying there's no meaning to life and that people's lineages should be forcefully ended like a genocidal tyrant. on what grounds do you find this sort of stance tenable?

Have sex

How are you not advocating death? Every human is born with a death sentence.

Live because life is fun you retard. You probably believe is some spiritual mumbo jumbo. There's nothing wrong with masturbatory activities. Zest for life makes you a good person, the opposite makes you worthless.

Why are white incels the ones who bitch about white birth rates?
Chad and normalfags don't give a shit.

>haha duuuude life has no like meaning and shiiit i wish humanity would just die maaaan oh my god im so much smarter than everyone else for thinking this *hits blunt*

Kill yourselves faggots. So tired of your pseud bullshit.

Voluntarily going extinct is pretty much the stupidest (and last) decision you can make though. A shitty life is better than no life. Not on an individual level, but on the level of survival of the race as a whole. If medieval European peasants worried about their kids having shitty lives, there would be no white people today. And because we're worrying about it today, there will be no white people tomorrow.

Wow so there is purpose

I like how everybody reply to this guy with such anger and keep misconstruing his post. He didn't ask for anybody's death, he didn't advocate kill, the guy legit said so. He just want humanity to stop reproducing. I mean you can disagree with that all you want, but at least refute that instead of talking about kill yourself or some other bullshit involving people dying

Masturbation is fine for something to do but not as a reason for existence. Especially not when that existence is an active choice that affects others more than yourself.

This. The majority of people usually want to stay alive or at least think the idea of something ending is unappealing.
If a library of ancient texts burn down, people feel like they lost something even if most of them wouldn’t use any of the texts.
People like to collect or maintain things and preserve them. Even if it’s something like a porn stash where they wouldn’t want anyone to see it, they want to keep it for themselves.
People just don’t like the idea of something ending or turning into nonexistent

>accelerationism
That isn't that, that is just nihilism, accelerationism is accelerating disaster to mitigate the damage. It is basically the only way to save the waste because as it is, western civilization is just a frog on a boiling pot.

>The purpose is to take control of our existence by ending it.
I could do that at any time. I choose not to because I prefer to live. That is also me taking control of my existence.

Identity politics are cope for them.

You don't control shit. Our individual deaths or lives mean nothing. A collective end would mean a lot.

You don't get to force your ideas on others, neither does any government (though they already do). So no, this shit isn't going to be "solved politically and to be enforced", you're literally asking for a dictatorship of some kind. This is a dangerous line of thinking and I hope you realize this someday.

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>yeah bro just let me sterilize you because of my views
>wtf you mean no I'm not killing anyone

>A collective end would mean a lot.
To who? There isn't even a subjective concept of "meaning" with no sapient minds left to perceive it.

It doesn't affect anything else that matters really.

>it's an "antinatalist claims to know there is no meaning in life and that everyone should lose their basic human rights" episode
Dumb fucking pseudointellectuals.

literally everything is born with a death sentence. the universe will reach heat death at some point in the future, so why do anything at all? there's no reason to take the position you're holding and only restricting it to the human sphere. if you're that against living based upon nothing but "all things die eventually" then you would be against anything existing at all due to nothing more than natural physical processes. and this is something that can easily be remedied by killing yourself, so the question remains: why haven't you?

Reproducing is a natural drive that humans have, theres nothing wrong with that.
I mentioned that I want to live because i like life, and having children is something I want to do.
Why would i not have children? Because there is a possibility they might be mentally ill and not enjoy their life?

>everybody
>only 3 people not counting you
you’re not even trying

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The vast majority of jobs are in cities. I'm glad that you found something that works for you but it isn't feasible for most.

Sure we can impose our ideas on other. In fact, that's basically what human society is all about. It should be sorta democratic and I really want people to want the same as me. As many as possible anyway. Accidentally blowing each other up would do the same job but it wouldn't be the same. The point is to transcend.

Have kids. They are far less expensive then you think, they dont need as much space as you think and they are fucking awesome. You dont need a 100k salary and a large backyard to give a kid a good life. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either an idiot or a jew.

My boss is 32 and argues shes “young” and doesnt want kids because of global warming or some shit. It makes me cringe because shes such a fucking huge bitch maybe if she had someone or something to live for beyond her own selfish desires she wouldnt be so obviously miserable. Who the fuck wants to live like they are 23 for their whole lives?

>basic human rights
where are those even come from? and why people from different places have different rights?
sound like a bunch of make up bullshit

It's quite obvious that the purpose of intelligent life is to create another universe to combat proton decay and eventually the big nothing

I wouldn't say antinatalism is tied to consumerism and subservience, rather I would say people are going to rationalize not having children as the "progressive" thing to do. People already use this to justify abortion "It will plunge women into poverty and the world is overpopulated so we need to encourage more people to abort", so rather than question the legitimacy of an economic system that inhibits a basic biological function, people will accept it as "the next step in our evolution" or something like that.

world of warcraft will give your life a meaning

considering your posting it's almost a certainty they'll be mentally ill and not enjoy their life

there was nothing misconstrued. he advocates to actively end the human race. he wants humanity to cease existing. the means do not matter.

It would have great meaning to us while we age and die as the last humans, and when we're gone it doesn't matter if it meant something or not. Since we're dead.

It's all meaningless
No matter what hopes or dreams you had
No matter how blessed a life you've lived
It's all the same
Everyone will die someday

Does that mean life is meaningless
Was there even any meaning in our being born?

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That's the welfare state blame, no one likes that shit exept socialist fags.
If you can work but your problem lies with in being a lazy piece of shit then you don't deserve to eat.

Yes?

That would make me sad, but id do my best anyway

Having a kid in the hopes they'll 'fix' something for you is an awful thing to do. Have a kid because you want a kid and think you can manage one, don't have one because you think they'll help fix you or a relationship or something.

Could this even be possible? Even if you by some miracle enforced some kind of worldwide mandatory sterilization through the government of every single country on earth somehow, you would still have people living off the grid that wouldn't be treated, or people who do not consent to being sterilized. Like, you'd have to create some form of chemical bioweapon that sterilizes humans, and then find a way to distribute it around the entire fucking planet

Like the fucking Krogans from mass effect but instead of hyper advanced space age Salarian technology, we just have whatever the fuck we have now
After the point that humanity starts spreading out onto other planets and colonizing, you can pretty much kiss the dream of making humans extinct goodbye without some kind of fucking life eradicating eldritch horror on the level of halo's Flood or dead space's brethren moons

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people in shithole countries cant afford food yet they're still having babies

Some of people have kids because of the idea of having someone to care for them when they’re elderly so they don’t get shoved into a home.

I hate being around children, I'm not going to saddle myself with one.
>but it's different when they're yours!
Maybe but I'm not willing to gamble my future and the future of the kid on that. Plus it might die or grow up to be an asshole and now I've not only wasted my time raising it but I've got emotional baggage fit the rest of my life

Yes, and doesn't that upset you? The futility of it all? I don't see why this pointless resistance to the fact that we are doomed one way or the other is inherently better and taking an active choice, saying no to the whole thing and just say fuck it. Death is our natural state and this life was imposed on us. Extinction is freedom, because even if we all die, what right do you have to sentence future generations to pointless life?

not really
personally i don't advocate for total extinction, but i don't get this fucking idea of keeping things going on "forever" as people would like either

and if you ask people who want to keep this shit going, most of them are very likely won't give a shit about what happen to the later generations, the ones that suppose to carry on their legacy

If choosing to die would have "great meaning" to us, then wouldn't choosing to live do so as well? Because humanity collectively chooses to live. We choose to live and produce offspring that will live and create their own stories and shape the world in their image. How can you honestly say that's not meaningful, but voluntary extinction is?

>people who live in shithole countries make bad decisions
Wow almost make you wonder if those 2 things might be connected somehow

>meanwhile in nigger chink muslimstan: my life has a meaning!
And thus, the west dies.

Nah, nobody is doing funny things to my balls

Where the fuck did I say anything like that retard. Im saying instead of living like a party going 23 year old your whole life then dying alone in a hospice you can have some kids and love for something other than yourself. Learn to read idiot

Trying to hard.

This but let like 10% of it not sterilised. The problem aren't humans it's too much humans.

Life begets life and your perpetuation of it is not a free choice. We humans like to think that we are in control but we are, especially in this matter, slaves to our programming. We can break free.

yeah they make babies to substitute for the food
also is it a coincidence that as many countries got richer and advanced their birthrate just drop, maybe people got wiser and decide all of this shit isn't all that it crack up to be

First objectively true thing posted in this thread.

Well we can't just lie about it, information is expread everywhere in the western world and its core values have always been curiosity and knowledge, of course a dirty shitskins towel head will probably know only about the Quran in his lifetime and believe his life has meaning

Haha

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Because the nigga wants to eat, sleep, work, and enjoy recreation. Death is usually the be all end all of life and people don’t like it, so they’ll delay it as much as possible whether it’ll work or not.
If you’re so dedicated to this idea, why don’t you end it? Is it a “do as I say, not as I do” mentality or do you think you can help the cause by spreading your gospel?

We, as life, are the only known parts of the universe able to perceive it. That in itself is something remarkable without any need for any ideological framework to assign it greater meaning. We've spent a lot of time and we're going to spend a lot of time as dust on the cosmic winds, but, for the briefest of flashes in the timeline of existence, we can do what no other matter in the universe can. That's got to be worth something and while I'm not going to tell you it means you have to try and do something with it, I think it'd be a waste not to at least experience the ability to experience things while we're here.

don't worry retard, i fixed it for you

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My life isnt pointless because I choose to have purpose. You choose to believe life is meaningless. What right do you have to remove the ability of future generations to not be given the same choice?

existence is cope

I’m depressed guys and I don’t know how to get out of it. I keep doing the same thing every day and I know I keep repeating myself but I can’t stop myself so I stress out about doing the same things. What do I do?

You can't choose to have a meaningful life because such a thing doesn't exist. Instead, you can choose to deny or accept. I want to set you free.

Pretty much this.

I think it's a fucking joke

You played too many jrpgs. You think you're seymour or some shit.

>Yes, and doesn't that upset you? The futility of it all?
sometimes.

>I don't see why this pointless resistance to the fact that we are doomed one way or the other is inherently better and taking an active choice,
the point is the resistance isn't pointless. the fact that the end of the journey is death does not mean the contents of the journey itself are pointless.

>saying no to the whole thing and just say fuck it
my point about asking you about suicide wasn't a typical internet insult, but to actively prod you about this. my point is, if you honestly and truly believed this, you would already be dead. but you're not. so there is something about this subject or your own life that you are deliberately not addressing.

>what right do you have to sentence future generations to pointless life?
what point is there to watching a movie or reading a book if it ends? all movies and books end eventually.

based

Life has no objective point as far as we know, every chump will tell you a different story everytime. I guess you could say we are here to make our own meaning

LIFE IS ABOUT GETTING TRIPS
congrats dude

>Everyone will die someday
Humans found a way to "beat" the death, is simple, is called legacy, everything you are doing now is thanks to your ancestors, be grateful to them and continue doing it or kill yourself to try stop it.

see a therapist. its their job to teach you to break out of depressive spirals

Now you’re starting to sound like the main antagonist of a JRPG

trips of truth, gtfo nihiniggers.

The only thing youre convincing me of is that you have autism

Is this how antinatalists think? Holy shit.

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Ancestor worship is the only legitimate form of religion.

Just circular reasoning.

Yes, life is all we have but if that's a reason to live, then it's also a reason to stop making new humans. No more humans to live means, by your logic, no more reason for life. It's the perfect solution. Remember, I'm not proposing to get anyone killed. We're just calling it a night.

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Quality of life improvements is why the "west is dying" and people have less children. And games are included in that group of shit that people like to do more than looking after children.

it can be. but most religions fall prey to corrupt bureaucracy and power tripping just like any sufficiently large organization or government does, which can be a greater problem than normal when said organization claims to have authority over your soul as well as your life.

Because you have to lie to people to stop them from offing themselves?

So what? Kletus knocked up all twelve of his cousins 3 times over.

>**mutilates your penis in the name of YHVH**

thanks, rabbi!

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Dude, Christianism is the peak of nihilism in form of religion (yes, it sounds kinda contradictory), what the fuck are you talking about?

oh yeah, such great society
5 talented guys who got paid to paint nice shit by a handful of kings and lords, a bunch of nobles sucking up the handful lords and a whole lot of fucking peasants who did nothing but slave their lives away so can eat a bit better than dirt
not to mention all the kids fucking

Meaning exists when someone acknowledges something. By recognizing something’s value, you give it meaning whether it be positive or negative.
You don’t see meaning in life, but other people see meaning in it.
That’s why people get sentimental about personal items from their past. You might not care about a trading card, but someone else might.
Seems like you want to set people free from thinking life has meaning, which in turn gives you meaning to stay alive
or you want to shitpost and get replies from people on a japanese website which also fills your life with meaning no matter how insignificant

Why do people even argue with antinatalists? This thread is a perfect example of how they don't even listen. They are just always in the right. This one fag in here keeps flossing over the fact that choosing not to be part of his solution is a conscious choice with some garbage about how it's not a real choice.

Really? Because it heavily relies on people being ignorant and not thinking for themselves. Ignorance is bliss.

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We are the only part of the universe that realizes the universe exists.
If we're gone then the universe loses the only bit of self-awareness it ever had.

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Yeah, I see that now
I really pity the guy

You don't need religion to find meaning in life.

>christfag
fuck off

Just curious, should we wipe out all other animal life on earth first before doing ourselves in? According to you we'd be doing them a kindness by setting them free.

>coping
If there's no religion to dictate what's right and wrong, then none of those things are wrong, dude. Hearing an atheist screeching about morality is hilarious, because they cower under the blanket of morality, justice, mercy, and law that religion has provided for them while cursing it like a retarded tsundere.

>people say life is meaningless
>don't care and continue to masturbate and watch anime

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The point isn't that you should feel bad about your life. It's fucking pointless but you might like it. Grats, if so. But how does that give you the right to impose life on others? This isn't about us because we're fucked by the former generations that brought us into this mess. Rather it's about those we can still save.

You do this because of circular reasoning. Well then I can’t help you there

>But how does that give you the right to impose life on others?
Oh so now "Life Rape" exists? Giving life to someone without their consent? You dead-brained retard.

>Yes, life is all we have but if that's a reason to live, then it's also a reason to stop making new humans

Nigga you arent making any sense and you have been blown the fuck out a hundred times over in this this thread just give it a rest and fuck off will ya. Youll pretend you were just trolling or something then go post in a frogposter thread:

>when you get btfod in an argument and you leave the thread sadfrog.jpg

I'm don't give a fuck. Do I strike you as a member of PETA? They can solve their own shit.

>Rather it's about those we can still save.
you can still "save" yourself by killing yourself. yet you're not doing that. why?

That is the final argument of antinatalism. That life is inherently a negative experience. They will not listen to any arguments that it isn't because that would defeat their entire way of thinking. Arguing is pointless, there is no reasoning to be had.

if a satanist got told every things he did is actually the right thing from his "religion", then those things must be right then because the religion said so
can't believe it's 2019 and people still use this retarded argument moral can only come from religion

>some cringy söy dev who probably lets his “wife” get fucked by niggers all day and makes shitty games to supplement his vain and selfish life wrote this to sound pseudo intellectual

Wow really convinced me

I just work with kids, it's wholesome, rewarding work that doesn't feel like empty waging to get Mr. Shekelstein his boat. There's few feelings better than knowing I've made such an impression on a little one that they constantly follow me around the daycare and want me specifically to calm them down when they get worked up.
And to top it all off I still have time to myself at the end of the day.

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"Morality", in the sense of standards that a society lives by, can definitely exist without religion.

Truly based and redpilled. Moral relativism is moronic even if you believe morality is a social construct.

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The point isn't necessarily that living life is absolutely without value, but that doesn't mean it has any real value. I'll watch my anime and pull my dick now that I'm here but an unborn soul doesn't miss life any more than you miss being an astronaut. When we create humans we also create their thirst for life that is hard to shake. How is it moral to impose that collar on someone?

yeah, time for yourself to wank over the thought of drowning those kids in your semen
pedo scum

Childless Barista 64

>only $16 an hour
fuckin' gentry

mangafag kill yourself

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>pedo
Please, user, it's about the milfs.

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I wonder if we'll still cope like this when they are shipping in foreigners to take care of us in our old years.

Oh boy a piece of luck

if life is so shit he can kill himself

Why do you get to impose death on everyone then idiot. Also im glad my ancestors brought me here. I get to live in a technology filled world where even tho im a minimum wagecuck i still have a roof over my head and the ability to talk to people all over the world. I dont have to worry about getting my village raided by muslims and slaughtered anymore. If youre that pissed about living just end your own life thats your business

Not at all. My degree is a worthless associate of arts. My previous job was bank teller. There's just not much competition for some of the better jobs here because all the young people move to the cities.

What are you talking about? Where are you getting your proof from?

What? No. That's stupid.

>The point isn't necessarily that living life is absolutely without value
>but that doesn't mean it has any real value
you are arbitrarily making a distinction between general "value" and "real value". if life truly has no value then this form of an objective standard could not be applied to the subject at hand (life) according to your very own logic.

>How is it moral to impose that collar on someone?
it is only an imposition if you view life as an inherently negative experience. given that you have just admitted that individuals are capable of finding their own value in life, how is it moral of you to deprive a conscious being of making the decision of the value of their own lives for themselves?

damn. this user has it figured out

yore stupid, lol.

Fuck off, Abe.

I suppose. I honesty don’t want kids but it’s not because I want to save them from a future of dealing with life, it’s just because I have no incentive. I still go out and try to find dates, but kids aren’t my thing. I see an issue of having no one to rely on when I’m old and feeble, but I guess I’ll think on this more as I get older (which can be too late since I’m already in my 30s).
Nobody asks to be born and people usually just try to make the best of things when they realize their existence, and that’s what I’ll do.
I actually do realize life is going to end somewhere and the eventual death of the universe, although far beyond humanity, is basically saying “there’s no point in the grand scheme”
I like my dog, this shitstorm of a imagebaord, and my dumb videogames. My job’s ok, my dates last about a month, but I guess I’m ok with this life so I don’t see me ending it anytime soon.
On “saving others”, I’m not too sure because it seems like a complex issue I haven’t given much thought to. For now I don’t see a reason for people to end it, but personally I’d wish people would stop having 8+ kids. Seems like 4 kids would be enough, but I guess I can’t change that alone

I don't care about crackers, niggers, chinks, wops, or kikes. You all are horrible people. But thanks for all the fun you rowdy bunch of knuckleheads.

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