it's fucking korea time boys The ro8 of KSL season 3 is here after literal years of the group stage, and it's time to thin out some of these damn protosses. >Stork vs. Best (PvP, bo5) >Ample vs. Mini (TvP, bo5) After bopping Jaedong and Last, can Stork do the same to best? Will mini finally be punished for being the weepy shitter he is?
and tomorrow >Soulkey vs Snow >Rain vs Sharp
so come in and watch some brood war with your pals tasteless and artosis twitch.tv/starcraft
First for REMOVE PROTOSS SHITTERS WHY DO WE HAVE FIVE (5!) PROTOSS IN THE TOP 8? AND ONLY ONE ZERG? REMOVE PROTOSS REMOOOVE PROTOSSSSSSS ああああああああああああああああああああああああ
oh, looks like they updated the ASL8 maps again. Multiverse and tripod got changed a bit, and the weird one is gone. And blockchain is back, no idea why. Seems like whiteout was the standout of last season but blockchain did at least provide some good games.
Robert Peterson
what the fuck is this? did artosis have a sex change and tasteless got even fatter?
what happened to the Eng stream? is blizzard having a giggle? hell, even if I wanted to watch SC2, I wouldn't fucking watch OCE-SEA
Samuel Stewart
if you can't beat fucking STORK you don't deserve a spot in the ro8 I'm numb to the pain by now. But he might come back one day, shit stork did after years of slump and is on cracking form at the moment
artosis apparently knocked his wife up again, but that doesn't explain why tasteless appears visibly pregnant
Last week the schedules also clashed so they delayed the broadcast of SC2, you'd think they would've had a better solution for this week for overlapping broadcasts.
William Gray
apparently. they'll have to rush and set up a "starcraft2" channel to put sc1 on
Elijah Williams
Yeh wanna watch what? Brood what? Yeah nah cunt, yeh watchin' me 'n' me mates play some Crafty
blizzard had lots of layoffs in the esports sector
Eli Russell
Whenever I try to link twitch to blizzard bs I get a callback error, why is this? Turned off all my adblockers etc Logged into my blizz and twitch accounts
Because he's from Melbourne and Melbourne is Australia's San Francisco. He's also a Polish Jew.
Mason Russell
most of them arent even stacked, so it'd work the same
Wyatt Martin
he's the bassist for Korn
Jeremiah Allen
>australian polish jew Truly the worst of all worlds
Carter Johnson
SC2 Protoss and Zerg are both a-move races; Terran is the only one that requires micro. The APM Exchange Rate in SC2 is that for every 1 APM of P or Z, a T needs 100 APM to make his army not instantly disappear.
Juan James
Just got back from Melbourne and it was rare to see an actual australian. The amount of insects in living in that city was fucking insane. It was like I was in China
So the english channel is double booked sure they're retarded and whiteoids can get fucked Why the fuck is the Korean channel down?
John Ward
desu that's all major australian cities, rich chinese people send their kids here so they have an easy time competing in academia
Daniel Collins
>M3 Terran >Play at around 250 APM most games >Still run into sub 100 APM Protoss regularly, a lot of them with higher MMR than me >My MMR as Random is higher than my MMR as Terran
Korean stream just came back online, shouldn't be long until it starts
Alexander Turner
Delayed.
Ryder Morgan
/starcraft. The SC2 ANZ qualifier has restarted on /Blizzard_ANZ. KSL is being delayed for another 15 minutes because Blizzard did an oopsie with the stream scheduling.
Julian Morales
bro - should ya just said you are a homo hater or something.
Isaac Hill
No because carriers and battlecruisers would take up the entirety of map
Julian Kelly
>13: 04 StarCraft: Today's game is delayed due to technical problems on the spot. Please wait a moment. >13:04 snarf (ssakdook): StarCraft -> Please pay attention to similar sentence repetition. [warning] nani
Landon Diaz
Also because they can't buy land in china, so they just buy a shitload of it elsewhere.
it's the reason why Vancouver is a chinese colony. There's a bunch of unused, extremely high priced real estate around the island and near it that a bunch of nouveau rich chinese fuck bought and built. THey've also been trying to buy farmland and mines in the countryside
Nolan Carter
zoom out, 1 ling unit is 100 zerg on the ground
Jordan Walker
I don't think it would have helped, the case is some sort of malpractise thing at a local children's hospital.
Camden Powell
Did you check if you actually have to go? Most people i knew called in a day before and it was always cancelled.
Caleb Collins
what do ultralisks eat?
Wyatt Peterson
this. I've been summoned like 3 or 4 times over the years and every single time I've called the night before and it's been cancelled. even if it wasn't though, my dad works for the DA so I'll probably always immediately get kicked out by the defense
Jackson Diaz
they will auto disqualify you from the service >clerk in aussie courts.
Justin Robinson
...whatever they want
Jason Hughes
marines
Joseph Lewis
What is he thinking about? Right now, at this very moment?
gonna get that kerrigan booty for being a good boy
Justin Lee
I'd have to imagine it's like how some bugs work after metamorphosis, maybe it's like a "mating phase" where they don't eat, they only exist for a small time to fuck
except, instead of fucking, ultralisks kill shit.
Jason Ross
they dont always have marines available. like what? trees? they dont look like herbivores. and their homeland is char which is a volcanic planet. how do they find enough food to live throughout the day? AND they're the size of a skyscraper so they must have to eat tens of thousands of pounds of food every day!
John James
"maek hydra..."
Juan Scott
they eat the lava like dodogma
Jace Baker
but lava has 0 nutrition in it
Carter Myers
its full of the stuff ultra's crave
Elijah White
i don't think it's actually canon but isn,t the creep basically bio paste made from whatever organic thing there is on the planet, so they would just eat that.
Stork for the Legend factor Mini because he's top tier, Mini wins vs Stork in semis. Soulkey destroy filthy Snow, Sharp murders rain Soulkey beats Sharp then beat up mini in a intense match.
Blake Smith
T O S A G I
Justin Clark
>40 minutes in and the stream STILL hasn't started I SLEEP
yeah, like nicholas cage in that movie. They have to shove a footlong needle into tasteless's heart to jump start him after adbreaks when he goes in a syphilitic coma
yeah left side of that bracket is a Protoss 100% but we can hope Soulkey and Sharp make it through. They're definitely good enough. I'll be please with that outcome.
Carter Carter
helo evryone,
artos here
starcraft is cancelled
thanks u....
Juan Bennett
we need our champion to return and show these dirty scummy protosses this country is terran country
>all these people bitching about Protoss Fucking kids, Terran and Zerg were dominate for over a decade, extremely dominant. It's about time they got put in their place.
tonight is his night boys these 2 are like the only players i see using darkons on the reg, we're gonna get into a super late PvP where mindcontrol becomes the meta
I just started, and I see it's 0-0. Did I miss a set already? Didn't they start at 6am?
What have they been doing for 50 minutes?
Leo Murphy
so like, what is it about today that is making it such a shitshow what happened to product this situation not only the SC2 being on stream, but the Korean production shitting itself and now english having issues during the games
David Torres
Based Tastosiss playing NG+ for our sake
Juan Roberts
Blizz has been trying really hard tonight
Jacob Foster
playing sc2
Parker Young
what ever happened to EGFatburger did he divorce his wife yet? kids? still clinging to making money off sc2?
Zachary Thompson
5 mins into first game first set. We've got a long night of Starcraft ahead of us.
Aaron King
Blizzard fucked the schedulling and a SC2 event was going on. Blizzard has only 1 stream (WOW) so they created another and shipped SC2 there before starting KSl. It just really started, you missed nothing
Hudson Green
i think they actually did separate
Grayson Bailey
He probably does some money from casting, but he's far off from when he was basically a king in EG. Based PPD from Dota basically knocked him off his gold tower then left
John Barnes
6goons 1zealot vs 7goon1lot saved by reaver popping
why is everyone complaining about ads I don't see any
Christopher Butler
what the fuck is wrong with her hands they give the impression of rotten tree branches about to snap off as they sway in a gentle breeze
Camden Wright
Did anyone else catch him playing that C&C mobile game at E3 last year or the year before? They seriously introduced him as "one of the most storied RTS players ever" or something to that effect, I burst out laughing.
Did incontrol get fired? I hate women as much as the next guy but last time I watched he was just trying to wind up and insult zombiegrub as much and as brutally as possible, it was tough to watch.
Nicholas Lopez
>Scouted
Bentley Morgan
>he was just trying to wind up and insult as much and as brutally as possible
That's his entire shtick. Incredibly insecure person.
Austin Carter
I've only been following the scene for a few years but it seemed much much worse than he does with other people, like he was actually trying his best to make her cry because he hates women now.
Asher Morales
fired from what?
Elijah Turner
lmao losing the obs to a cannon
Owen Price
stork the best protoss, effort the best zerg, flash the best terran what year is this
Asher Fisher
>Just a prank >Just joking around >Don't take it seriously As he hurdles insults your way He's a jerk and has always been one.
Alexander Martin
WCS?
Angel Robinson
>effort the best zerg thats not how you spell soulkey
Zachary Brooks
did soulkey beat Flash in a fucking finals? yeah fuck off monkey lover
Cameron Murphy
Isn't effort in the military now?
Christopher Reed
I just got here. Did I only miss the 1 game between Stork and Best or is there a whole other set after these two play? Thanks.
Christopher Rivera
>storming to kill the obs high level.jpg
Chase Hernandez
Turn up the game soundddddddddddddddddd
Daniel Thomas
you only missed one game, there were ~50 minutes of delays
Thanks fellas. I wonder what the 50 minute delay was about.
Also this game is incredible; Stork has been playing like a Zerg haha.
Zachary Nelson
Fuck if I know. I just watched him during events as a "personality" (poor mans caster). He's always insulting someone hidden behind banter. He does seem like a manipulator, who talks loudest creating an atmosphere where you can't ask him to stop because of how "fun" you're having together. Like a light version of narcissism.
Xavier Rogers
the twitch channel got double booked with a sc2 cast. seriously.
Ethan Cook
there was a sc2 tournament on the stream when ksl was supposed to start, so it took a while to kick them off, and then they had stream issues for a while after that
Evan Brooks
And someone forgot to turn of the delay :^)
Michael Scott
blizzard is lucky can you imagine if the english stream was even more delayed
Yeah, you cant call him out because you have to be professional and cast the game, but he is allowed to try and trigger you as much as possible because it's his image! I'm all for cruel banter but it was all one way and so relentless to the point that it felt malicious and childish. Like when he gets her name wrong at the start. Haha just having a light hearted joke bro, no im not trying to make you seem irrelevant or unprofessional by throwing you off and messing with you, it's just a funny joke haha move on, why are you so concerned about me mocking your name?
Elijah Butler
maybe you got a virus idk man
Christian Ramirez
>I'm still scratching my head about this one. How could you possibly be such a bitch about that? Does he genuinely hate seeing other people have fun? I don't know him personally but I remember I played BW with him a few times like 10 years ago, he was always kind of just a genuine cunt and came off as really insecure.
Anthony Bell
In rice
Zachary Stewart
i just thought that google and amazon with their unlimited resources would have figured a way around adblock software
Jonathan Johnson
enjoi ur ads fagot reetard
Adam Wilson
There is literally nothing in the post spelled wrong.
Elijah Williams
best thing about the average PC is the end user has complete control over everything that enters the system unless you have a rootkit
Dylan Hall
purge your filter caches and update them
Brayden Parker
>unlock origin what's that you dumb fag? oh yeah it doesn't exist, just like your brain!
>not running umatrix so literally every site you visit is broken and you have to spend 20 seconds enabling things bit by bit so it just barely functions
Evan Mitchell
unlock is spelled correctly though??
Owen Perez
If you are a "pro" you should be pro at all maps. This veto map bullshit shouldnt exist.
They should rename youtube-dl since it's more than youtube, it's all video streaming sites. And build a version of mpv built around it.
Josiah Thomas
>Haha just having a light hearted joke bro, no im not trying to make you seem irrelevant or unprofessional by throwing you off and messing with you, it's just a funny joke haha move on, why are you so concerned about me mocking your name? It has nothing to do with her being a girl though, it's just how he is. During some random for fun pub on bnet event he just sat there and shit talked the random bnet pubbies that would join and try to face off against korean semi pros. Like dude it was funny at first but no need to be a dick when these guys probably don't even know what iccup is.
Adrian Sanders
>looking to be a 3:0 >no sign of a dark archon yet
>enable something >unnecessary garbage pops up >disable it again >keep doing this for an entire minute to get the site barely functional without the bloat I know they don't actually think about me, but I like to think they're seething. I should really get adnauseum
Joseph Morales
>dark archon >pvp
? ? ?? ? ?
Camden Harris
Mini will pull through for us
John Watson
Some maps favour some races. If you're going against someone of a similar high skill level the map can be the difference between winning and losing.
Brandon Bailey
the trick is to MC their dark archon first so you can steal a second unit with theirs!
Benjamin Torres
it's the only way to counter scouts, just take it for your own
You can Mind Control a Shuttle with Templar or Reavers in it and then all the units inside are yours.
You can also Feedback enemy High Templar at a huge range, with low energy and low cooldown.
But they're still not a popular PvP units.
Landon Powell
feedback shuts down storm drops so hard it's not funny. well, it kind of is because of how quick they die.
Jace Watson
hopefully the next games will be a lil more unpredictable.
Anthony Bennett
>do energy and shield still regen while it's in the shuttle?
Yeah. Scarrabs also build too. Some games pause time when units are inside buildings or things,but not SC.
Isaiah Nelson
How come they never build a cannon? Like all Best had was the shuttle, having that one cannon seems like a nice tradeoff instead of losing all those probes. I mean he would have won anyway but pros seem allergic to even building a single cannon
Easton Bailey
>already went to the military >lowest APM pro meaning his wrists and fingers are in good shape >married
Year of the Stork incoming?
He was so out of practice and legit shit just a few seasons ago.
No, japanese have a culture, while Korean culture has been almost completely destroyed, then replaced by crass consumerism and plastic trash. The recent feminist cult infiltrating government also made thing worse.
he was known as Sasin back in the day, he used to play on KT rolster. but yeah he was never really well known. I haven't see his vP actually, i have no idea how good he is vs. protoss.
i want to see ample win because we haven't got close to peak mini tears yet
Wish I had saved Mini's reaction when he lost an important unit and he shook in his chair.
Also, it's entertaining to see Mini, he looks so broken inside whenever on camera.
Carter Rogers
Mini just looks so punished and sad inside, no matter what happens to him. he's like the living embodiment of that cat behind the fridge with ham thrown on it.
yeah, he was fucked from that first push. He should have waitied for 5 marines + 2 tanks and a vulture w/ mines before pushing mini's natural, i have no idea what he thought he could accomiplish with 2 marines.
Lucas Sanders
>i have no idea what he thought he could accomiplish with 2 marines.
And as the commentators just pointed out, what he was trying to accomplish by giving the vultures speed. Crazy stuff.
that's what makes BW better than SC2. units look weak or strong depending on where and how they engage.
Like, 3 tanks vs. 5 dragoons the dragoons just crush the tanks so easily when they start to dive on them. but watching them supported by a couple of vultures and marinesand they run over vast numbers of dragoons.
Pretty much every unit is "weak alone", but upgraded Goons have excellent range and a degree of mobility. Not sure why would you measure a unit's ability through its 1v1 prowess anyway.
Kevin Baker
rip sparkle
Bentley Howard
looks like the island is giving a little thumbs up
Andrew Harris
sick bait
Logan Hall
*blocks your own army's path*
Aiden Long
how did ample get this far
Asher Clark
that dragoon was walking on the bunker! you can't do that!
Kevin Smith
This is sad to watch. Ample is playing like all of us when we all first started to get good at Brood War; too many strategies mixed up into one game that counter-act each other. His nerves must be fucking with his head.
No joke, I'm currently a D-level player of Terran and I am still graduating from the safe Siege Expand into trying to do the greedy 1 Rax FE against Protoss, but Dragoon pressure is fantastically hard and PvT is a damn difficult matchup at my level.
Idk if watching Ample fuck up against early dragoons so hard should make me feel better about how even pros find it hard or just feel bad for him because damn he's dropping the ball so hard.
Weren't those photoshopped because /vg/ DotArds hated the fact that Day9 was taken in as a color commentator while still having fairly casual knowledge of the game and using too many anecdotes from his own ladder games?
He seems to look better than that on his streams.
Lincoln Foster
that's the original, the photoshopped versions are much worse. This WCS was a couple years ago, i haven't seen his streams recently so its conceivable he has slimmed down since then
If you're having trouble at TvP at D you need to work on a lot, most toss there won't even have the APM to deal with moving across the map let alone the macro. TVP is one of the easier D level matchups.
Owen Thompson
You lads better have some terran music playing
William Wright
I suggest starting to do some cheesy and micro intensive builds since that's really hard for protoss to deal with.
do something like star port in to vult drop in to multiple factories every game
Most Tosses I lose to have the APM at my level (180-200) and I usually suffer from constant pressure, my army gets ambushed because the Toss has Obs everywhere, and although I paranoidally prepare for the Recall I still have a lot of trouble with Arbiter play.
That said, I ain't giving up and I don't believe Toss is OP, I just feel like it's not an easy matchup for T. I feel like I lose a lot more than the Protoss and that I have to prepare the battlefield a lot by sieging in time and having mines in place before the armies clash.
Josiah Perry
ample reminds me of myself tbqh he's so bad
Josiah Cook
this series is going as expected. looking forward to tomorrows games. enjoy the rest of your day bros and we'll see you on the morrow
I was thinking the same thing. He reminds me of me when I was young and I thought I was hot shit but kept doing many different strategies in a single game, which would counter-act each other.
Gabriel Parker
>guaranteed protoss in the finals
John Morris
rip ample
Dylan Wood
>2 3-0's
Shame. hopefully tommorow is more evenly matched
Sebastian Ross
Imagine being one of the SCVs at Ample's hidden base. You've never seen an enemy unit in your entire life, for all you know Ample is playing single-player. Then, as you're diligently mining minerals one handful at a time, you receive the message that the Terran has surrendered.
Samuel Brooks
Mini's despair will be all the sweeter when he finally drops somewhere in the next couple rounds.
Hudson Sanders
It's perfect. Terran won Season 1, Zerg won Season 2, and now Protoss for Season 3.
It means all is goinga according to plan in korea you baka gaijin
Connor Cox
See you tomorrow lads
Jose Evans
>I just feel like it's not an easy matchup for T. As opposed to TvZ sure, PvZ is also pretty easy at D. You shouldn't be letting the Protoss control the map like that, you're the one with all the scans and the ability to control the map with mines and if you can get your 3rd before they've gotten their 4th you should just win. Honestly I suggest you add someone and find a practice partner and practice some PvT if you're having trouble with TvP so you can actually understand just how oppressive mech can be and how any tiny fuckup on the part of the protoss is just devastating. Your 180-200 APM must also be mostly spam if you're having trouble quick sieging and mine dropping since you really only need 150APM. Dealing with Arbiter play is just hard though, it's pretty hard for Protoss to actually get to that tech though if you're doing your job right.
Thomas Roberts
Oh. Well I don't speak kwang, so yeah.
Is Korean food good by the way? Anyone know?
Landon Russell
bye
Caleb Mitchell
no. korean food is terrible. kimchi is the worst thing ever.
Kayden Morales
His comeback has been prophesied
Levi Harris
Interesting. I wrote these down in my notes. Just curious: I have generally been taught that overall, P>T>Z>P, and win rates for PvT are generally fairly Protoss-leaning outside of the highest competitive level where Flash and Last are the only ones that consistently win PvT. If you're saying that at my level Protosses should get facerolled by mech, then at which level does P actually beat T? And why?
Joshua Edwards
Korean food tends to be extremely spicy, to the point there is no taste other than being hot.
I'm just going off my experience getting to B back in the day but it just has a lot to do with the way mechanics develop. Usually in C a lot of players would off race just to learn what actually gives them trouble in whatever matchup they're having problems with at the time whereas D ranked players usually don't know more than having memorized cookie cutter builds which makes their mid and especially late games soft.
>If you're saying that at my level Protosses should get facerolled by mech I'm not quite saying face rolled but in a straight fight most protoss are going to just be straight a moving so as long as your positioning was fine you're pretty much just going to clean up. You might see an occasional intentional mine drag or zealot bomb but that's it.
>then at which level does P actually beat T? And why? It's pretty even in C and B though I'll say I felt the biggest difference in B when you get to the more complicated games and protoss is more likely to be able to pull off higher tech shit.
Gabriel Morris
drinkis milkis
Alright nerds, i'll see you tomorrow. Soulkey vs. Snow, Sharp vs. Rain, good games. Root for a non protoss to avoid a pvp final.
Charles Miller
>Is Korean food good by the way? Anyone know? Yes it's good
Nathaniel Miller
Thanks user, this is great. I used to actually play Zerg a lot, but the reason I stopped was that, while I love the race in all respects, I fell into the habit of overdroning, not being punished for it, and then spending 2500/2500 minerals/gas all at once by massing Ultras, and I got to C that way, but my play has always felt painfully sloppy outside of pretty decent Muta micro shenanigans, so my resolve was to pick a race with more traditional macro. I might do some Protoss off-racing once I get more consistent with Terran (it's really hard to decide on a main in this game, all the three races are cool) so that I can understand the Protoss perspective more as well.
Benjamin Reyes
>I used to actually play Zerg a lot, but the reason I stopped was that, while I love the race in all respects, I fell into the habit of overdroning, not being punished for it I think that might be how passive people play now days, when I was playing FE had only recently become THE pvz strat and I remember winning almost every pvz by just using an old 12/12 2 gate because a lot of zergs had problems balancing drone/army production until B where I had to actually adapt myself. I felt like TvZ was a complete cluster fuck at the time though since SK Terran was the king but Muta timing attacks were brutal.
>I might do some Protoss off-racing once I get more consistent with Terran (it's really hard to decide on a main in this game, all the three races are cool) so that I can understand the Protoss perspective more as well. Like I said, it's best just to find a practice partner and work the matchups you need to work on no matter what. Trying to play ZvP taught me a lot about how easily you can fuck over a zerg by making them over commit their larva to an early army because I got punished like a mother fucker whenever I did.
Liam Wood
I hear you, user. I'm gonna get on ladder in a bit after dinner. Have a good day.
Lucas Cruz
>12/12 Woops, meant to say 10/12. I played around with some 9/9 though that was too risky.
Glhf my dude.
Jeremiah Butler
Hey I'm not a gamer dgeenrate like you losers, tell me about any dirt you have on the StarCraft player Destiny Steven Bonnell?