Why is western game combat so great?

Why is western game combat so great?

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Is this made by the same guy who does the Japanese VR games one? The mannerisms just feels the same.

Western combat

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Japan combat

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fucking great
how can Japan even compete?

my fucking sides

So it's Daggerfall and Arena combat returned from the grave? Awesome.

>reality defying acrobatics with retarded weapons is better than swinging weapons in a lobotomized manner

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At least option 1 has the benefit of keeping things fresh (assuming the new weapons are a new type of retarded)
The inherent problem is that option 2 (more realistic if bland weapons) could be interesting IF developers spent more time giving you complete freedom with the weapon--problem is the whole "realism" meme has been more and more co-opted by the "mass appeal" market and the masses wouldn't be interested in something that required actual work

western combat

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Pick your poison then.
Both will kill you; choosing one over another doesn't make you superior.

In an ideal world japs would finally move on with the times and make good gameplay, and westerners wouldn't make corporate-driven lowest common denominator appealing garbage.

why is western combat so fucking good?

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Well then as I said, if I have to pick I would have to go with option 1--at least there is the chance it will be new and quant, while option 2 will always be drab and dull

Yes, it is. I wouldn't even call Sekiro less realistic than Skyrim because everyone in Skyrim just overswings and flails around like idiots with their disgusting paddle board swords instead of trying to block/thrust/make use of footwork.

wake me up when games are like this again

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DAE third person action game have better combat than first person RPG xdddd

nice cinematic experience filled with QTEs

Nah, anyone who plays Skyrim is a natural clown

>Japanese games
made by high IQ people, made for high IQ people

>western games
made by low IQ "people", made for low IQ "people"

If Japanese are so high IW then why could we simply nuke them?

are yall for forgetting KC: Deliverance or are yall just seething weebs

because you have oil

>IW

user.....

every jap game is a button mashing triathlon or turnbased

>bethesda game
>insulting gameplay made for retards
Pick two

>tfw user sleeps for aeons until the universe explodes

i'm sorry your obese brain is too slow to process more than 2 inputs per minute buddy

damn, now that western games have been ultimately BTFO I'm gonna play nepu nepu kawaii desu ne~ VNs now

Bandits were incredibly easy to kill. Enemies would let themself get kited around the map if you sat on your horse. High level combat was a parry fest. Non sword weapons had dull movesets. Once you had plate armor you were a walking tank.
I played on release, so I don't know if they fixed any of these issues.

you know using meme format doesnt make that true statement wrong right

BWAHAHAHAHA
even niggers would make better game
what's wrong with Whitoids?

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>jumping on a typo
low IQ

japanese combat is so soulless when you hit things with a sword its just a baseball bat that makes lensflares

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Why japan cant into fps ?

because it's boring af

>i'm sorry your obese brain is too slow to process more than 2 inputs per minute buddy
where did this come, you seething faggot

they get dizzy or some shit.

How can you blame western devs?
White are fucking suck at vidya

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the animation is utter garbage.

>fixed any of these issues.
>issues
user..I.....

wtf? does that guy have more than one combat art equipped?

White journalists*

>japan combat

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bad combat is an issue

Western competitive games shit all over anything Japan has ever done.

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>japan combat
>new folder
what did he mean by this?

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its edited, he cut out the part of him going into the pause menu and changing it

well that's realistic combat user

This is unironically what dual wielding should be, a bunch of fast attacks. There's absolutely no point in dual wielding in regular Skyrim.

>japs would finally move on with the times and make good gameplay

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Do you even understand what DAE stands for?

It's a joke on how turn-based combat japanese games have horrible interfaces to select which attack you want to use, you brainlet.

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>t. newfag

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>videogame whack-a-mole
>worth making

Both windows and FF interfaces are fine. The FF combat mechanics themselves are shallow as shit, but there's nothing wring with the UI.

this is a dishonest webm stop it

Is this mordhau? How is it compared to chivalry?

I don't think there's anything wrong with them either, I was just explaining the joke for a fellow user that didn't get it.

>enemies on foot trying to catch up with someone on a horse while the rider is shooting arrows at them instead of hiding behind a tree is realistic
>you being a walking tank in plate armor while enemies aren't is realistic
I'm usually no fan of sacrificing gameplay for realism, but it's ok in this case as it mainly tried to be authentic.

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looks like shit

not different from these old western games on this thread

Not that skyrim's combat isn't garbage, but whoever made this was clearly being as retarded as possible, either because they think acting like a retard helps prove their point, or they're actually somehow too retarded to be effective in combat as simple as skyrim's.

dragon's dogma is miles above skyrim if you want a better comparison

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god of war has terrible combat and people who actually play and master action games know this

western trash is so """""""""realistic""""""""""""""""""

It expands on chivalry with morphing attacks(swapping from stab to swipe) and chambering(beginning an attack in the same direction an attack is coming from when its about to hit). You also have the ability to apply skillpoints into a character to customize them.

For instance, you could have two pieces of heavy armor, a longsword, and the ability to dodge(like in Chiv) This adds another option to your toolset for avoiding damage.
You can also chamber into a morph to further confuse your opponent.

There is also dragging, but not to the extent that Chivalry has it. It's a lot less ballerina dancing and you can't hit enemies behind you but dragging is still very important.

they can only see a tiny slit of the screen at a time

It's a multiplayer game. Pure substance over style, the opposite of Japanese design philosophy.

perhaps they're demonstrating that the combat is garbage in the same way does
I suspect he's not trying to show off user

A lot of fun, but filled with just as much if not as much jankyness as Chivalry. There's a retarded meta of weapons that nonsensically do absurd damage to plate armor, and dragging and turning is around and as relevant as ever. A butchers knife also has as much recovery time as a full length spear because drunken balance efforts

Still worth 30bux if you like the dumbass genre tho

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it's still an rpg user

So that's the legendary westcuck cope... whoa...

never see japanese version of heart of iron , RTS, or anything near complex

>w-wow user i hate it western games have nothing on super smash bros
Fag

Pretty much this.

oh now its about graphics ?

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you mean that genre that's dead

first person is a limitation, not a freedom

>god of war
>terrible combat

git gud

you suck at grammar, ricenigger

>when enemi start cinematic movement, use QTE to start counter cinematic movement
>they also have 10000000000 HP in hard mode!
so... deep

not dead but only for High IQ people, the fewer people.

how about you faggot
god of war is littered with issues that make it not worth mastering
stop shitposting for a second, please don't tell me you're serious

Western gamers need CONSTANT validation for their hobby. Its why the majority of the games made by major developers are violent and/or realistic.

but that joke... doesn't work.

Its because they are lying to themselves.

what is this a webm for fish? fix your fov.

This games combat is good, any more like it?

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that's why they make the most fighting and bing bing wahoo games, right? The literal niggers of video game genres

But even when it was alive you never saw any japanese games in the genre.

It works so well.
JRPGs focused on the worst part of RPG systems. Rather than character building and roleplaying its just shitty combat.

>is littered with issues that make it not worth mastering
implying japanese combat isnt also

the sequel coming out probably

>put it on the easiest setting
>play like a retard
you can make MGR look shit like this

it's about immersion, not some autistic sense of control over others.

not because you won',t you couldn't

Come on, it's not gonna end up in a reddit screencap but it was ok. Stop being a retard.

they play console more and console sucks for FPS

it has issues, every combat system has flaws but DMC, God Hand and Bayonetta are all worth mastering
yes, I could. user the combat in god of war is made for casuals, if you're familiar with action games you'd know it's shit

i'm not sure what the fuck just happened in this video, but it did give me PTSD over the FUCKING BULLSHIT fact that levitate didn't stop fall damage.

that's how skyrim melee plays on legendary too, except you eat a vegetable soup beforehand and mash power attack or bash instead of regular attack

>dodging requires you to charge up by locking yourself in one place
>no visible indicator for how far the dodge is going to make you go when you release the button
So close yet so far

>God Hand and Bayonetta
Yeah but platinum is a rare specie

Talking about DmC the reboot combat was great

>Troll śnieżny

>made for high IQ people
apparently not considering these games barely sell in japan

With fetch quests and a GPS.

Delusional gameplaylet.

>device that was designed solely for video games
>but only for certain types of them

backwarded, Fps were designd for keyboard first, and mouse+keyboard next. never for gamepad.

most of the western games which have good combat are good because they're so broken that it's fun to fuck around with

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how does one man become so powerful

From two decades ago.

What they're showing is that you can just mash the attack button and still win.

how can japan even compete

Absentee father (but hes the devil)

they cant into world physics, they're good only with ass and titties jiggleling.

Combat is literally the only thing DD did better then skyrim. It is a bland game in every other regard

Just try it out a couple of times and you get a feel for it
>no visible
yes but audible

Is there any other japanes game that has good action combat outside of from games?

You don't need to look far. Devil May Cry 5 is just down the road.

Webm creator here. This happened when Skyrim Enhanced Edition released, so I thought I'd play for a bit to see what's changed. I never liked Skyrim's combat, and that moment was the perfect opportunity to show why, because you can just mash attack and win; the AI having a stroke was a bonus.

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rofl how the fuck are they the same? he's literally doing what you would normally do if playing VR dual wield.

what a shit fucking opinion
skyrim is horrible and empty, it's unenjoyable and bad throughout

The West is only good at making FPS games and racing.
It's funny because Japan makes better 3rd person shooters while I can't even name an FPS from Japan other than Breakdown.

Which is exactly why Japshit gets held up next to it for comparison, they are in the same league.

>you can just mash attack and win;
So like literally every TES game ever made?

bait

Surprise, TES has always been overrated as fuck and fanboys have defended the combat for far too long.

>good action combat
>from games
I like souls but it doesn't have good action combat
anyways, here's a quick list of them:
>Devil May Cry 1, 3, 4, 5 (even 2 has combat better than skyrim but that's not a hard feat)
>Bayonetta 1, 2
>Ninja Gaiden
>Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance
>God Hand
>Wonderful 101
there's also the other stuff that probably isn't what you're looking for like no more heroes, viewtiful joe, killer is dead, vanquish and madworld

good game
disgusting weaboo trash for coprophiles and decomposing niggers

can we PLEASE end western game development!? This shit has gone on far too long. Fuck western developers, fuck EU developers, UK developers and anything outside Japan.

After you have completed it at least once

It's true you won't get as many moves during your first play but it doesn't mean the game's not fun on the first playthrough either. Part of the fun of the DMC franchise is the sense of progression and working with what you got to achieve the highest possibe ranking. Seeing your skillset grow over time until you finish your first playthrough is rewarding in and out of itself.

you have to go back

I'm more concerned about difficulty.
>Devil Hunter - For player which experienced DMC before.
>Died only once
Game ending became a shitty anime battle when Nero became OP and beat Virgil without any problems. At least on SoS he tries not to get his ass kicked, and in DMD he fights like he should have been. Meanwhile in DMC 3 even one of first bosses on normal kicked my ass 7 times, and was satisfied when I finally beat him.

Dark Messiah. Its a pity that games like Elder Scrolls and others cannot incorporate it.
And then there is FEAR.

>vector math

Maybe, but do it in first person perspective.

why would I? first person is shit in this type of game

petrified the huge wolf then kicked it for instant death

mfw you free him and he actually lets you rule with him

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>generalisation, the argument
TES games are revered not because of combat.

The 20th mission was supposed to be a victory lap on normal difficulty while the bulk of the challenge of facing Vergil comes when you're fighting him as Dante. On the other hand, i think the common enemies in 5 are by far the most challenging in the series. I know There's DMC 1 but that game lacked variety while enemies in 5 has more variety and unique behaviors which you need to deal with them differently; they could fuck you up real bad if you don't know how to deal with them while at the same time being fun to fight if you know how to fight them properly.

>garbage in the same way does
I can make a similar webm with Bayonetta, with it's one button mode. But what does that prove exactly?

>first person is shit in this type of game
Maybe, maybe not.

This is triggering because the Arkham combat requires careful timing to get the double multipliers and finishers, and it's necessary to do so without ever taking damage or breaking your chain, especially in the combat missions.

easy automatic is different user
skyrim's whole combat system is badly designed in various ways
meanwhile you're comparing a mode that just selects random combos and is exclusive to easy mode. even if it weren't, you'd be destroyed if you tried to use it against anything more than basic enemies in bayonetta whereas with skyrim enemies are all health sponges that literally encourage you to just spam melee.
if you were able to provide a similar result of a webm with bayonetta it would be disconcerting, but either way the point is that Bethesda is incompetent at designing these things. they haven't been able to develop either a good rpg system nor a good action system to save their lives, but normies eat it up anyways
you can name a list of shitty design choices and flaws with bethesda games' systems, from morrowind to fallout 4. not mentioning the trainwreck