So how does it work that Dante used to get stabbed by Rebellion in every game but suddenly in DMC5 it awakens his true...

So how does it work that Dante used to get stabbed by Rebellion in every game but suddenly in DMC5 it awakens his true devil trigger?

Also, general DMC5 thread.

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Because he stabbed himself and while stabbed absorbed Sparda

So... it doesn't work if someone else stabs him with it?

Again, Sparda was the important part.

Because he absorbed Sparda while being stabbed

Didn't he absorb Rebellion though? And how did Vergil manage to separate himself into two without having Sparda? I mean he managed to awake his true DT too

Intent.

First time he got stabbed with it awakened his normal DT.
Third time, he had Sparda on him and absorbed it.

He stabs himself all the way to the hilt. In other games only the blade is touching him

sparda sword

Dante absorbed both.

Vergil used Yamato to split himself. Yamato's abilities were just portal opening before DMC5, turns out its used to separate things too, chalk it up to writers shoehorning that ability in. My theory is Vergil wanted to get rid of both the illness he had in DMC5 which was destroying his body and what he thought was his weakness together. So his human side got separated along with the illness.

He gets his true DT because when he was Urizen he ate the fruit.

Okay so what's the deal with the illness? He doesn't seem to have it anymore once he's back together in DMC5

Again, fruit.

is portal opening not technically splitting things

How in the fucking hell did you manage to miss the only fucking plot of that game.

What the user above said, plus it seems (mostly for gameplay reasons) Vergil already absorbed some of Force Edge's power into himself since he retained the summon swords. So he and Yamato may have evolved in power since DMC3, hell, throw in whatever Mundus' corruption could have done and Vergil could easily have abilities never known until now since the whole thing with V is built around how he's managed to acquire something equivalent to Nero's DT Stand in 4, or Dante's Doppelganger if you want to be chronologically proper.

because the writing in DMC5 is dogshit, this is why vergil suddenly knows a random magic incantation to separate his soul into two halves because the Yamato can just do that now. and then you have Devil Sword Dante, the most unimaginative piece of trash sword design in the series, they literally just ripped off the Akantor Broadsword from Monster Hunter and called it a day.

I think its about opening. Tearing something open in his body doesn't really explain how a separation like that works imo.

DMC's story has not been worth following since 3. DMC3 was the only time the current writers did something good, 4 and 5's stories are absolutely awful.

Another question - what's the difference between Sparda Sword and Force Edge?

Then why did he had to walk entire way to his old house?

Mundus aids from his time as Nelo Angelo.

So how come Yamato didn't separate Dante's fag from Dante?

Is this guy literally only there to appease DmC Dante fags?

He looks similar, is cocky in a similarly assholish way and even does the meme "Fuck you!" that Donte did

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>vergil suddenly knows a random magic incantation to separate his soul into two halves
It was a fucking poem, and it had nothing to do with the ritual. Shut up about it already.

>this is why vergil suddenly knows a random magic incantation to separate his soul into two halves
Vergil is seen studying the legend of Sparda in his intro for DMC3SE and as a result knows, almost, how to use his blood and the amulets to awaken the tower to enter the demon world to get Force Edge. In DMC3 he's clearly just restrained in his use of what he knows since he's focused on inheriting his father's legacy above all.

Force Edge is Sparda's sealed form, similar to Rebellion at the start of DMC3 compared to Rebellion after the fight with Vergil 1.
I'm not sure if there are distinct demonic ability differences (given Arkham and Vergil seemed to acquire a Sparda form and summon swords respectively from Force Edge, but not Dante, though he acquires Sparda later which helps out his Demon form but it's fuzzy how that goes since Dante's demon form seems to be all over the place for whatever reason from one game to the next), but the physical capabilities should be fairly obvious since one is just a sword while the other is a giant cleaver scythe thing.

>hurr durr 5 story is bad because I can't use my brain
rub your brain cells harder

Donte copied Nero you faget
don't start this shit again

Narrative significance, alternatively Sparda's grounds may have some latent power in them required to kickstart Yamato and Rebellion's true power before it travels with them/their user.

Except I never suggested DMC5 story is bad, just that trying to state Vergil's sudden abilities is a sign of confused writing isn't sensible given he's shown to have changed plenty of times even in DMC3. I was just clarifying with some of my dry remarks that this could just as easily be chalked up to gameplay needs rather than any narrative point.

Intent, I guess

>alternatively Sparda's grounds may have some latent power in them required to kickstart Yamato and Rebellion's true power before it travels with them/their user
That's what I thought, after they both did it in the same spot. Or maybe just Dante only figured it out after he got there

>Donte copied Nero you faget
No. Nero wasn't such a fag back then. He was more of a cocky crybaby type but in 5 he's just a straight up fuck-you type of cocky.

Is not about following the story, the game literally spells it like you are a 5yrs old. Its fucking mind boggling the fact that somehow OP managed to miss the awnsers to the questions hes asking when they Literally awnser those same questions when they happen. For gods sake Vargil separating himself its a major plot point and its explained in a cinematic that narrates how all that happens and explains how he did it.

Personally I'm just left wondering whether Dante absorbed all of Rebellion or only the hilt when he awakened his power.

The Prequel Novel still had a Yamato shard exist despite Nero repairing it, so I'm left wondering whether Rebellion Shards could be a plot point later.

See other people absorb or merge demon with each other or themselves in the future using the shards or a new shorter sword being forged out of the remaining pieces of Rebellion that aren't part of DSD.

Was it really an illness though? I thought it was just deterioration brought on by his humanity not being strong enough to survive or handle the demonic powers he used to fight. He was in rough shape before the split, sure, but I just chock that up to his time as Nelo Angelo and the ass whooping he got. He needed Nero's arm to recover from that and then kicked his humanity out to become full demon.

I just wrote it like that for abbreviation's sake. We weren't discussing about what exactly it was so I wanted to keep it short on that part.

Its deterioration sure. V calls it like that. Not sure I can accept the "humanity not strong enought thing though". I think his deterioriation came purely from what you wrote about Nelo Angelo and his defeat thereafter.

The whole reason Vergil split himself was to get rid of the things that were making him weaker, mundus aids and his humanity were those weak points.