Team Fortress Classic

I've played TFC literally since I was 12. I still hop on Drippy's 2Fort a couple times a week and play for a bit to unwind. I like it, ive always liked it. Dunno, its just chaos and its hilarious

>the only reason valve's games are relevant is because of drop servers for children to pay for their habit and sponsored tourneys
Sure thing, user. That's the only reason TF2 has daily threads, that's the only reason people are still playing it. That's the only possible reason.

How? Only 2 servers have anyone playing on them and its always Drippys 2fort

I'm talking about TF2, retard

I was only pretending to be retarded

>Drippy's 2For
Why does only that server still have players? It's a shitty nobhop server that plays the worst map in the game 24/7. I just wanna play Badlands and shit, damn it

youtube.com/watch?v=SI840bR3HYc
Why is TF2 so slow and boring?

> HU HU HU HU
> AAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHH
> YOUR TEAM HAS THE ENEMY FLAG
> BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEPBEEPBEEP

Reading this post makes me wanna grab another monster

source engine is good for certain things but goldsrc has great netcode for twitch shooting and movement physics

Fortress Forever >>>>>>>>>>>> TFC
Prove me wrong

Oh silly me I forgot it's also free whereas you have to pay money to access the superior original mods.

It's superior because nobody plays it

tfc's playerbase moved on to counterstrike and then if they are like me bf1942, i never got into tf2 because i didn't like the design. they went the wrong direction with it, tfc looked good. tf2 is goober shit, looks so clowny. what the fuck were they thinking.

fast food is superior to fine dining

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>Preferring generic military sim garbage to originality
You got shit taste, senpai

People actually dine out though. Nobody plays TFC.

youtu.be/pxMnkvP136A i miss tfc pugs

>senpai
if i'm your senpai then you disappoint the fuck out me.

How do you derail a TF2 thread when there's so little meaningful discussion to derail?
>unfunny ugleh joke and engineer webm
>hey r/tf2 rate my barbie doll
>random crits should be gone
>what do you think of [some youtuber only 12 year olds have heard of]

>"Boomer" calling other people Boomers

You really don't need to disguise your voice.

>>unfunny ugleh joke and engineer webm
Literally never happens nowadays
>>hey r/tf2 rate my barbie doll
Yes, and if people do it in literally any other game it's suddenly not a problem, is it?
>>random crits should be gone
People on Yea Forums never say random crits should be gone what the fuck are you talking about retard? TF2 threads always have people against the removal of random crits
>>what do you think of [some youtuber only 12 year olds have heard of]
Give me ten archived instances of this happening.

cringe

There are people playing tho and there's a discord with 100+ online and 500 members you could hang out at to get a game going.

Old games typically have less players because your average zoomer knows jackshit about vidya and just follows the herd.

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>Discord
Blew your cover, tranny

>Granade spamming and "Excuse me, I'm in need of medical attention", the game.
Played it a few dozen of hours, like how the game looks but not the gameplay

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>Old games typically have less players because your average zoomer knows jackshit about vidya and just follows the herd.
TF2 is literally an old game and it still has players after 12 years. Maybe TFC just isn't as good as your nostalgic mind thinks it is.

>2fort and a conc jump server

God damn boomers. Play some fucking avanti or warpath.

Wow, just about 30 players peak and almost half of them are playing on Drippy's. Meanwhile CS 1.6 is still sitting quite comfortably with 14k players as we speak.

>Literally never happens nowadays
I'm sure ugleh turns up plenty of recent archive hits
>Yes, and if people do it in literally any other game it's suddenly not a problem, is it?
people who do this in any game are gay, it's even worse in TF2 because they probably paid for it and thus are simple
>People on Yea Forums never say random crits should be gone what the fuck are you talking about retard? TF2 threads always have people against the removal of random crits
literally not the point
>Give me
no

>f2p
>drop servers
>paid tournaments
>toddler pandering art style
>developer support
You're dodging the argument.
This is why TF2 has players.
All of these things artificially increase the player count without making the game better whatsoever.
TFC was even as popular as DoD in its heyday much less CS. It's still better than TF2 tho and you can still play TFC so you have no argument.

>drop servers
>paid tournaments
>toddler pandering art style
>fucking drop servers
When was the last time you played TF2

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Who /concer/ here?

I can see the appeal since it's more blatantly Quakelike but TF2 does like 5 other things unique to it. It's apples and oranges.

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>good maps
>Sniperward
>a good map
>Spawncampward
>good
>Lmao6Engineersward
>

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>game still looks like a box of crayons for children
check
>children still pay for other games through items obtained by "playing" tf2
check
>official valve tournament game
check
store.steampowered.com/tourney

also
>f2p
more players without game being better
>developer support
constantly brings players in for muh new content without the game actually being any better

If TFC had all of this besides toddler art style it would have a minimum of 20k concurrent players.

>>f2p
TFC had ways to play for free too, but you wouldn't know considering you were never there when it was popular. You are only repeating what others have said to you.
>>drop servers
Nobody visits community servers anymore, retard.
>>paid tournaments
I don't even know what the fuck that is and I have been playing since 2007.
>>toddler pandering art style
Sure, anything slightly original is bad, every FPS game should be a realistic military sim.
>>developer support
Honestly, Jungle Inferno improved like two things and made everything else worse. I'd prefer the devs only patching bugs every now and then, which is thankfully what they're doing

I understand what you're trying to do but TF2 still has like 50k players after 11 years. It doubles during updates. And I was playing it like twenty minutes ago.

Feels clunky to me. Honestly even though TFC has the bunnyhopping TF2 still feels smother with its air options.

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>waaaaah every game should be realistic
Go play CoD if you hate originality so much.

TF2 is one of the only three games in western gaming to have great art direction. The rest of that shit you said is wrong, particularly development support, since TF2 gets by almost exclusively on community contribution.

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>TFC had ways to play for free too, but you wouldn't know considering you were never there when it was popular
No, it wasn't. It started as a free mod but you had to buy Half Life to play it. TF2 is purely free and had far less players when it costed money.
>Nobody visits community servers anymore, retard.
You still get items for playing that you can use to fund other game purchases retarded shit eating faggot.
>I don't even know what the fuck that is and I have been playing since 2007.
That's because you're a shit eating faggot
store.steampowered.com/tourney
>Honestly, Jungle Inferno improved like two things and made everything else worse
It doesn't matter what you think.
All that matters is updates spikes the player count every time there's an update
>CoD false flag
I don't play that trash game retard
The game looks like it was made for a retarded 5 year old kid

What are you talking about? Quakes Team Fortress is free as well. And its easy to crack Quake. Dipshit.

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>game still looks like a box of crayons for children
So you're just insecure, got it
>children still pay for other games through items obtained by "playing" tf2
They haven't done this in years
>official valve tournament game
TFC is part of that list as well you fucking inbred, why don't you actually check your sources properly
>F2P
There's plenty of F2P games that don't even remotely have as many players as TF2 does. CS 1.6 still has tons of players despite you still requiring to buy it unlike CS:GO, so I don't know what TFC's excuse is.
>developer support
Valve barely supports TF2 anymore. The last major update was over a year and a half ago, and sometimes they'll update the games localisation files a few times a year. That's it.

All you've proven to me is that you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about. Keep this up and I'll suspect you're baiting.

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It is universally agreed that TF2's (original) art direction is exceptional. Just compare silhouettes and realize how lacking TFC is, which we forgive because it's a low-effort mod.

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Wow you got a half full 2fort server that disables one of the fun things about the half life engine and a server with bots. Hell even day of defeat and its source equivilent have more players and more variety in game servers. Face it old man! TF2 won, even if many community servers died out.

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>You still get items for playing that you can use to fund other game purchases retarded shit eating faggot.
Achievement items cannot be traded, you braindead down syndrome manhole fuck.
>That's because you're a shit eating faggot
>store.steampowered.com/tourney
Oh no, a game has a tournament, It's ruined and literally unplayable now,
>It doesn't matter what you think.
>All that matters is updates spikes the player count every time there's an update
Yes, when new content is added, people get interested, when they're done with that and decide they don't like it, they go away.

>TFC
>Low-effort
TF2 was literally made for money and only money, to get children to spent their mom's credit card on cosmetics

As a pub game TFC was shit. Even players 19 years ago thought TFC pubbin was shit compared to CS. League play though was where TFC shined and was by far the most fun and team orientated competitive play of its time. When STA/TFL leagues were at its peak this game was pure kino.

>So you're just insecure, got it
No I'm not a retarded little kid like you
>They haven't done this in years
Really you can no longer sell high quality items for money that give you steambucks to buy other games with? That's interesting because you can and you're a dumb liar.
>TFC is part of that list as well you fucking inbred
>There's plenty of F2P games that don't even remotely have as many players as TF2 does
That's because they don't have a major developer pushing everything I listed.
>Valve barely supports TF2 anymore
The game still regularly receives patches.
>All you've proven to me is that you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about
Is English even your first language? I'd be embarrassed to be you.
Your entire argument already got BTFO autistic little twat

Hmmmmm what's this
steamcommunity.com/market/search?appid=440
I wonder why people "play" TF2?
It's a paid job to fund they vidya.

Interesting. You seem to imply on children were playing TF (you know, the people TF2 was made for). Ignoring the fact the game didn't have micro-transactions for a long time after release.

>Your entire argument already got BTFO autistic little twat
Try proving it wrong instead you fat smelly retarded fuck.

Try reading the thread you stank ass illiterate third worlder

Alright, nigger. Try telling me how I could get a key without spending a single cent?
Please, I'd like to educate myself

You are the only third worlder here, it's why you have to take turns on you toaster playing TFC because TF2 would make it explode.

What was your guys' lag like back in the day? I had to account my grenade priming to be atleast 1.5 seconds behind the beeps. Made conc jump maps impossible

>No I'm not a retarded little kid like you
No I'm just not petty enough to stay away from a game just because it looks cartoonish
>Really you can no longer sell high quality items for money that give you steambucks to buy other games with? That's interesting because you can and you're a dumb liar.
I thought you were talking about cross promotional items, which Valve seriously hasn't done with TF2 in a long time. I've never paid attention to TF2's economy and don't really care to.
>The game still regularly receives patches.
No it really doesn't.
>Is English even your first language? I'd be embarrassed to be you.
You're baiting.

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tf2 had like 20k daily players before the lootboxes happened

and it was a much better game at that time too

>You're baiting.
You only realize that now? You really are retarded

>welcome to san andreas im cj from gröve street

Everything you can get via drops except name tags, since people actually use them is worthless. It's been years, everyone has every copy of every hat. If it's not unusual, limited, glitched or somehow rare you won't sell it. People like to cry about TF2 being "nothing but bots" but there is no profit to be made from idling anymore.

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Quakeworld worked with Shareware Quake too, QWTF was literally free

Funnny that you still ignore these

Now I can't tell if you're just pretending to bait to cover up for your stupidity. You're really good at this.

both games run on a toaster retardo
>No I'm just not petty enough to stay away from a game just because it looks cartoonish
But you are petty enough to play a game made to look like a cartoon for retarded children.
>I've never paid attention to TF2's economy and don't really care to.
Oh yes you don't pay attention to one of the only reasons your shit game has players xD how convenient
>No it really doesn't.
Last update was May 14th
teamfortress.com/?tab=updates
>You're baiting.
And you're a shill. Your viral marketing thread is on life support.
I'm not that guy, retard. And I'm not interested in more pcbros bumping this shitty tf2 shill thread. Don't you have a general to shit up?

Yea Forums is home of the contrarian fag

And thanks to shit eaters like you vee is home of reddit 2.0

>last update was may 14th
>updated localisation files
>added medals
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

Fucking moron

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>both games run on a toaster retardo
Not anymore, a toaster would explode tying to run the spaghetti coded mess

You're now aware updates are made to address concerns the community has. You're now aware a game constantly receiving updates to fix problems keeps players playing. You're now aware major content updates aren't the only form of updates to retain players.

Also what kind of medal was that updated, my little shill?

>And I'm not interested in more pcbros bumping this shitty tf2 shill thread.
>tf2 shill thread
>Shilling a game that's 12 years old and not even the devs care about anymore
Based literally braindead subhuman

You're now aware you're a retard. Here the medal they added in the last update, just for you.

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based retard

based TFC shill

>Shilling a game from the 90s
based retard TF2 shill

>86 replies
>Nobody has given a valid reason why TFC is better than TF2 yet
kek, admit it's just nostalgia

bump

Valve can make just about any shitty game popular if they wanted to. TF2, CSGO and Dota 2 are living proof of that. That's the advantage of having limitless funds from the largest PC game platform provides and the advantage of not having to pander to shareholders provides. TF2 was literally a dead game before adding all the gimmicks. Same with CSGO only far greater. Dota 2 was always kind of popular because ASSFAGGOTS were the FotM genre at the time but it retained and increased popularity as a result of it.

>lootboxes
>when it's like $2 per lootbox to open it

The market is so saturated it makes more sense to just outright buy items from other users. This is why the community market even exists.

>TF2 was literally a dead game before adding all the gimmicks.
It was literally never dead, and even if it were it would still be less dead than TFC

>Valve can make just about any shitty game popular if they wanted to
yeah no, anything they release which is not vr related or half-life related gets shot down fast and with good reason

What the graphs don't show is that the game frequently had around 2k players concurrent. The demographics for gaming were a bit different at this time in when people played and how many people played. The fact it would have an intersection peak concurrent of around 10-20k players does not show that the game had 1-5k players for the better part of the day. The game now steadily has some 30-40k players, far great minimum concurrent players than it used to have.

TFC was somehwat popular even before it was "cool to be a gamer". Hardly anyone played back then compared to now and also the internet was far less widespread back then yet the game was still somewhat popular. It's not as popular now days because nobody is trying to push it. The average gamer doesn't even know about these games.

VR is an entirely different platform. VR itself hasn't proven popular yet. If whenever it does then the same rule will apply. And different features are desired.

ugleh appears in almost all of the tf2 threads wtf are you talking about

>What the graphs don't show is that the game
*tf2 that is

The valve version of the game is complete shit compared to the mod

its not about the platform but rather you saying valve can make just about any shitty game popular
look how that went for them with artifact despite having MTG folks assist

>Yea Forums TFC never because nobody on Yea Forums even has it. They all only complain and don't play games.

I hardly consider Artifact to even be a video game and the fact is card games are somewhat unique in that so much of the game is dictated by the cards themselves. This makes players less inclined to leave their collection behind, similar to how players have stuck behind the real life MTG card game in spite of numerous superior alternatives coming out over the years. And I wouldn't give up on Artifact just yet. I'm sure Valve has more tricks up its sleeve. Like I said, the advantages of being a major developer that owns the most profitable biggest PC game platform and having no shareholders to pander to means they can sit on Artifact and decide to push it when and however they want. All it takes is Hearthstone to screw up at the right time and Artifact could see itself being competitive again.

quit moving the freakin goalpost already
artifact is dead and will stay dead

nearly all of those 1.6 players are Bots, when you take the human players its comparable to TFC

I'm not moving the goal posts. Card games and VR are quite big departures from your average video game and different rules apply to them. Card games typically haven't done well as a video game. Hearthstone was unique. I'd attribute the Kripp effect and twitchtv coming along at the right time to have a lot to do with it. It sorta came along at a perfect lull in gaming where WoW was dying, Diablo 3 failed, LoL was getting stale, there was no good FPS game. Hearthstone just sorta filled a void at the right time for a lot of people. Being made by Blizzard, Kripp and twitchtv really helped get it off the ground compared to other online card games like MTG. When Kripp started streaming it other popular streamers adopted it to and these created a domino effect that spread throughout gaming. Now everyone has sunk tons of time and money into accruing collections of cards on Hearthstone not many of them will want to leave that behind for a new game. But like I said if Hearthstone really fouls something up with the playerbase, Artifact will be right there to strike. In fact I think this may be the precise position Valve enjoys taking right now. Similar to making the Linux platform more viable for gaming. They want to keep their options open and they have the resources to sit on anything they choose indefinitely.

no way fag, video games are video games no matter the type or platform

Holy hell do you honestly believe that

I disagree. Video games are traditionally a translation of their board, pen and paper or card game counterpart. CCG's in video games are unique in that they're literally a card game on a screen. It's like saying Party Poker is a video game. It's much moreso a card game than a video game. Like Take Warhammer for example, it's nothing like the boardgame. Or one of the various games based on D&D, the rulesets may be the same but the representation of the game isn't pen and paper. Hearthstone is just a card game with some graphical effects pasted on. Regardless my point doesn't change. I think Valve is sitting on Artifact for the right time.

I played it back in the day in the Won days and it was a great game. Fast paced combat, very competitive gameplay with a great community. TF2 and HL2 killed it.

My lag was from 300 to 120. Never got less but still kicked ass

>TF2 and HL2 killed it.
Because they were better games

Same reasons WoW claassic is looked on fondly.
A game doesn't have to be balanced to be fun, having unintended quirks gave the game soul.