Path of Exile: Legion

We're going to make melee great again.

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>Cyclone is now channeled

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Bros... We are going home...

Wow, it only took them the entirety of the fucking development cycle to do what was in D3 since the beginning and should have been in the game cause it's a basic QoL anyway

I want to murder my graphics card with ngamahu cwc nonsense

This game looks like a really bad D2 mod.

Chinese shill. Go away

>all of this is considered "minor" compared to what's coming in 4.0
jesus
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because it is

imagine thinking melee will be viable
t. winter orb trickster

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Yeh I was surprised, I figured they were saving the engine reworks for 4.0.

>40% usage in Flashback
It's over man, just accept it. Hope you didn't buy the MTX.

How much do you wanna bet they're going to nerf the shit out of CwC support to go with this?
>cwc arc on Mjolner
>cwc molten strike (on top of ngamahu molten burst)
Help me think of more spicy cwc memes guys

Who cares about Path anymore?
I stopped caring 100% when they were bought up by the fucking chinks and they stopped doing Endless Ledge runs or other events

Or add "Cannot be supported by Cast While Channeling" to Cyclone.

based

they already said it will work with channeled in the podcast

And so the shilling begins again.

>this is still going
How many fucking expansions has this game through now?
Just how long does it take to complete the game from start to finish?

The ONLY reason this game gained popularity is because it was basically a free Diablo 3.
But Diablo 3 is ancient news, new, better games, in this genre have come out since then.

The only people who give a shit about PoE anymore are poorfags and people who've spent their entire life playing it.
Because on top of it being online-only, it's also owned by Tencent.

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Blizzdrones out in full force. Must be salty they didn't get into the beta.

>new better games
Such as...?

third big expansion would be 4.0, every three months we have a little expanion or league

Diablo is dead.
Path of Exile is garbage.

Eat a dick, GGGfag

Grim Dawn for one.
Got a new expansion a few weeks ago.

lil'zooms triggered. Mad lad chris is at it again.
>muh winter orb
lmao@ur lief kid, here's a free exalt buy yourself a tabula poorshit.

Sorry your announcement flopped, Wyatt.

>Better games

So you could easily name better diablo clones than Poe and grimdawn yep? SInce Diablo 2 is old too and nothing stopped people from playing it for more than decade, while d3 is dead for being watered down, casualized piece of shit, you double retard

blade vortex
>yo dawg i herd you like spinnin so

grim dawn is a great game, too bad it has animations and graphics from 2002

>grim dawn
>new game
i like grim dawn but come on nigger

they just don't give a fuck about making the game more group oriented

Oh, well that's good.

playing diablo 2 even without the expansion, on single player is still a million times better than poe. diablo 3 is worse than poe though, and every arpg community is garbage which is why you should just play single player anyways. diablo 2 online was only fun when it was cool and new so people would experiment and fight each other, but the community turned into pve retards who just want to take down training dummy after training dummy like it matters. lol, i guess.

I don't like having to choose between getting one-shot or taking 5 minutes to kill a single elite mob. Pass.

Winter orb is getting gutted

I like PoE, it's fun.

no need with the new blood and sand stances (TM) you switch to blood for single target and sand for AOE

Good. Fuck group cucks and fuck aura niggers

like what? party buff are broken as fuck

they played Last Epoch's free demo, I see

well it's a skip league probably, league gimmick doesn't interest me at all

>more group oriented
why would they? it's already good in group and support builds are broken as fuck

Myself I'm hoping poison or bleed get working real nice so I can make a proper Viper Strike nuker

>being this butthurt

>too bad it has animations and graphics from 2002
Your opinion is worthless if you care about that in this genre.

>new, better games, in this genre have come out since then.
>since then.

Haven't played for about a year. How much has changed?

>Your opinion is worthless if you care about that in this genre.
only good ARPG at the moment is POE, sorry grimfag

>making the game more group oriented
???
The game is 10x quicker and easier in a group and supports/aurabots are broken as all fuck

Did they also buff its base AoE, damage% and make the movespeed malus decrease with level? Cyclone isn't truly fixed until those are fixed.

no reason to get assblasted, friend

PoE is now an unplayable, unbelievably bloated piece of garbage.

>Big Attacks will be telegraphed
i know it sounds good but you know how they will balance it right ?
It will one shot you if you're hit, the game already has issues with one shots especially late game
there has never been a worse time to play hardcore

>Liu Xiaobo was a Chinese writer, literary critic, human rights activist, philosopher and Nobel Peace Prize laureate
>Some referred him as "China's Nelson Mandela"
so he's was a terrorist?

These temporary leagues aren't expansions, user. You're grasping at straws because you have no idea what the game actually is and are still bitter about D3's absolute failure. Go jack off and clear your head so you're not such an angsty fuck.

>be asked to back up your argument about "more games"
>shit himself

Nice to know that not only you have nothing to say, but also you were justw rong and still retarded

how does every poe thread turn into people making grand statements on the quality of a game they havent played for more than 2 hours in the past 5 years

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1. They dropped support for DirectX9 to prevent people from disabling all the visual vomit they're forcing down everyone's throat which I'm sure boosted MTX sales by 0.001%, making it totally worth it.

2. Bestiary is now core (nuff said).

3. They added Betrayal to core. What is that, you ask? Imagine 3 mobs, each of them more powerful than the boss of the map, spawning on top of you and hitting you for half your health total that you can't just escape from because they literally teleport after you through the map with no cooldown on the skill.

4. All dropped items except a handful of uniques are garbage. Most people play with a unique in every slot.

because they're true Yea Forumsirgins.
Personally I think the league looks fun even though it's simpler. Along with the fact that they upgraded the animations, melee, timings, new weapons etc.
Gonna be fun to use "single target" skills in a less gimped way

You mean game is graphicaly and with engine shit, so you're required to buy ssd for it to run without waiting 5min for everything to load
They nerfed syndicate 3 boss spawn, they dont spam OHKO in first second anymore, yet its still bullshit that lags you o ahrd that you die

And by most you mean average players, because that 5-10% of people knowing how to play have crafter elder/shaper/normal rare items with high enough affixes/preffixes and rolls

Is PoE still an always online single player farming simulator with the nobody doing pvp because it's sterile and boring compared to diablo 2 and the worst trade implementation of any game of all time?

t. shitter with a toaster

>Bestiary is now core (nuff said).
Ya, a completely overhauled system that is infinitely better than it was during the league. Try again, user.

>All dropped items except a handful of uniques are garbage. Most people play with a unique in every slot.
And that's where everyone who actually plays now knows you either don't play the game or are extremely bad at it. Go find another thread to throw shitty opinions that you disguise as facts into, user.

>the game where every class is the same is better than the game where every class is radically different
Did they EVER fix that awful net code?
Probably not.

>if I mock him then he'll go away!
Your game is a trash and owned by chinese EA.

>and are still bitter about D3's absolute fail-
Fuck off, poefag, you're scapegoating with D3 because you KNOW I'm right about everything I've said so far.

Your game is as bad as Diablo 3 and it will STAY that way.

>any answer he doesn't like isn't an awnser
Titan Quest got a new expansion a couple weeks ago, so there's that too.

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>new, better games, in this genre have come out since then.
Like?

you're probably just a shitposting double nigger but in the offchance you're not you could give it another shot, you clearly have outdated opinions

don't respond to blizzdrones

Grim dawn is a Titan Quest v2, we're talking about game being alive fo years, not about ressurection for 1 month because new xpac
also
>iiim right becuase i discarded every argument thrown at me so i won by default
You're teraded underage or adult who stopped at 14yo mentality with muh "chinesee overlords", while your beloved dialo is owned by goddamn actiblizz making A FUCKING MOBILE DIABLO for those bugmens

Retard

i'd still rather play diablo 2 or diablo even than any modern dungeon crawler

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They've been hinting at a graphical overhaul and a big change to character models. It was on one of the podcasts awhile back where one of the developers mentioned how they've been working on the new models for awhile and joked about how the other devs hated going back to work on live model animations for new MTX and skills because of how ugly they look in comparison.

I wonder if they'll do something like D3 and include a male/female variant for each class so we could get something like a lady templar/marauder or a warlock/sorcerer counterpart to the witch.

>you clearly have outdated opinions
Well I guess to be fair, I haven't played it in five years.
But every time I hear about PoE, I never heard any improvements.

In fact, last I heard, it got casualized.

>Grim dawn is a Titan Quest v2
No it's not, it's almost an entirely different beast.

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Would be cool but I doubt it, they'd have to get new voice actors to do a1-a5 dialogue for the new variants of each character, and a6-a10 still don't have PC voice acting

First league in a while that actually looks like a lot of fun. Puts the fear of God into the Blizz Defense Force, judging by this thread.

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Is RF viable for a league starter? I want to play this build for quite a while now.

hopefully it kills a chink too

It's always agitated oldfags. You know the ones
>Over 30
>He works in your IT department
>Balding
>Patchy goatee
>Treats human contact like acid
>Can't possibly be bothered to do fuckall. He's gotta tell those kiddos how to play a REAL arpg

This league is going to be amazing

I heard it was supposedly done that way to avoid the accusation of copy pasting Diablo

>Diablo 3 style avoidance and melee.
This could be unironically big for PoE, it will only make the gameplay better for both the PC and especially the console versions, making the game even bigger than already it is.
That must sting some assholes.

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that's because that's actually fun, whereas PoE is boring as fuck.

yes, although you have to use firestorm or scorching ray until level 50 or so

but most RF gear is very cheap, Kaom's is the only expensive one and you don't really need it necessarily

the people who grouped at the start of expansions literally got multiple mirrors and realm first 100's because the bonues are completely broken

if anything group bonuses need to be completely gutted, aka put a max aura cap and quant bonus cap

probably gonna be the memebuild of the season, unless they somehow overlooked something else to be more broken.
What would be hilarious is that in order to boost cyclone they also buffed channel skills and forgot about winter orb

chronicon......

How often did you kill Uber Elder this league?

I stopped at 19

who the heck want to play with Christian Weston Chandler anyway?

Focused channeling or whatever that support is will make Cyclone incredibly tanky

Nah, it was because the game was meant to be the 'unD3', so they kept some things like D2 on purpose even if it was dumb even in D2 like WW's controls were.

>have to play through the new awful acts
no ty!

sounds like your trash.

Gucci, do you have any preference between juggernaut and the chieftain version?

Always go Jugg. I went Chieftain and really regretted it, it makes it easier while leveling but is way squishier at endgame. Overall Chieftain is a thousand times worse.

That would be even more stupid than not implementing it for 7 years

5 years ago...

Just don't talk about the game anymore or play it again first. It changed drastically over the last 3 years

No, its a one button simulator

Hmm, wonder if it'll edge out Fortify as the go to tank support gem for spinny bois

Cyclone memes are gonna be spicy this league especially since a cyclone buff is what fans of the skill have wanted for the past several leagues

I really hope that there's at least one person at Blizzard who will see this and the eventual 4.0 release and absolutely seethe over it because it seems like mobile gaming is all they give a fuck about anymore. And I mean that in the best way possible. I want to believe that there's still people on the Diablo team or in Blizzard in general who care but all signs point to that number being 0. But with how things are shaping up with PoE, I'm totally okay with that.

with the addition of caster specific daggers and the buff to chaos casting last league, I'm thinking ED/Cont. will be pretty good in Density League.

I normally play melee, but I'm going to take a pass this league to avoid the superpriced formerly El Cheapo weapons.

no you're the retard. everyone who thinks having basic brainlet tier gimmicks like breach as the main gimmick is a retard.
this game could be so much more as they've shown but idiots demand this mindless low effort trash

>hasn't played since release
you literally do not have enough hotkeys these days and it's about to get worse. I'd tell you to go back to D3 but I liked D3 well enough for what it was until it got utterly stale.

God damn, I haven't played in a few leagues but this shit looks fucking good.

>It changed drastically over the last 3 years
Is the class system still the same? As in, do you still pick a class and are given a tree of passives that are shared between the classes?

some leagues will be elaborate, some will not. This league is not and it still looks fun as fuck. Deal with it. Take a break like I did during Synthesis ala Only .5% of Crafters Have Fun League.

Why would i play melee when the new mechanic is fucking breach 2.0?

It did not think it even had pvp

Because Cyclone is now a mile wide and can hit everything and your mother at the same time.

I personally don't care for Diabloesque ARPGs, but I am happy there is a passionate developer out there who keep delivering.

>now a mile wide
Source? Because the cyclone in the video has Atziri's axe and Carcass Jack to make it look bigger than it is

They were even talking about how if you had quick dodge equipped on console, you could flick the right stick in a direction and that's how the skill would activate. Was pretty cool to hear. Also the fact that they changed how the game handles pathing and geometry was probably the best thing to hear. Now if it looks like your character should be able to walk there, they more then likely should and this will hopefully prevent issues where you shield charge into the wall over and over again.

I assume it will simply because it's also a major dps increase compared to Fortify, and you can get it from elsewhere

melee is going to be just fine for this. High attackspeed is still king for "gotta go fast" on movement skills.
Sweep looks nutty. Molten is still BALLS BALLS BALLS. Tectonic is still 2 screens wide.

Hell, with the change to melee even Infernal Blow might be hot, since it was confirmed some skills will proc off of the 'sub' hits (but not Molten)

>Critical Strike chance is only rolled once per channelling. This means that if the first hit of a channelled skill scores a critical strike, all other hits while that skill is channelled will be critical strikes as well
this count for new cyclone?

It better not

>League gimmick is hordes of enemies
>I always play cyclone at least once per league
Yes. YESSSSSSS
I may actually be tempted to grab that Extra Gore effect off the shop...

Janny build inc

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there's no way it will work for cyclone. You'd just fish for a crit and then critstorm forever.

No way it will, that will absolutely fucking break the game
>exploit this and also stick CoC support with some linked skills to it
AN UNEXPECTED DISCONNECTION HAS OCCURED

>jugg
>infused channeling cyclone
fucking immune to phys without IC. Abyssus here i come

>we will never have a true sequel to D2

When are they releasing offline version for 40 bucks?

I'm not interested in whatever sequel nuBlizz would put out.

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8% less phys damage taken isn't additive with your endurance charges or armor, so it actually barely does anything for you. it's more noticeable when you have 0 phys reduction

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>having to use Atziri's axe,for radius, to showcase all of the melee skills
top kek

If they actually go back to what made D2 great, D4 MIGHT be good, but they won't, and it will be trash or a mobile game

I played that skill and had more radius, no Carcass, using two of those retarded cousins of the Grelwood Shanks.

I hate how every clone lacks at least several things about Diablo 2 that kept me hooked

I felt like back in closed beta the developers had a much better grasp on the little details that could make PoE into a worthy successor but as they kept going in more and more on literally pandering to reddit the game just kept getting worse and worse. The only good thing the reddit did was force them to implement lockstep but I'd argue that was bad ultimately for the game because it coincided with design decisions to migrate away from group play based game design because lockstep works terribly if you're playing in a group with anyone outside your region and when players realized lockstep feels better to play they were less inclined to group. And I really miss that aspect from Diablo 2. Don't get me wrong I'm not claiming grouping is a superior way to play, Diablo 2 had legendary single player but it's just something I personally enjoyed and don't feel satisfied at all about in PoE.

because constantly chugging potions in a game balanced around alt+f4ing is fun

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>cyclone is now a channeled skill
time to make a d2 ww barb in poe

Gotta make it look strong.
Atziri's is a patrician as fuck weapon though and with cyclone finally getting unfucked it's going to be super useful again. Good on one hand, but bad on the other since I won't be able to buy near perfect 6l ones for an exalt or two anymore to get a very gg weapon early to go into maps with.

Knowing GGG that's probably got literally every source of inc AOE in the game. Not one skill has ever played as well in practice as it has in the trailers.

The tree is but each class has unique ascendencies which have a giant impact on your character

who /flicker/ here?

There is an ascendancy class system that is locked to the main class you chpose alongside the original passive tree.. and that was added a long time ago.

Infernal would be absolutely insane. I'm cautiously waiting on more info there. Especially since the cracks on the enmies are pretty aesthetic to me imo.

Once i get the patch note i'll theorize Chieftain/Inquisitor/Ascendant or hell why not Berserker if the new mechanics fit.

AoE has incredible diminishing returns. You can get it on Carcass, you can use Atziri, you can get it on the tree, you can use a gem, but you don't need all of those. Pick one. You don't even need both nodes on the tree.

Did anyone else notice how the game started to power creep out of its ass with each subsequent league after being sold to Tencent?

>not doing that anyways
Except you're a dainty, snarky rich canon futa white girl for that sweet leeching and other good slayer stuff, and not the big burly notMaori notBarbarian

they're getting the same treatment as D3 and chinks love D3

>since Tencent
you mean since the beginning of the game?

There's also more high end difficult content in the game than ever before. Yes, people dunk on Atziri, but most players still can't kill Shaper, much less Uber or Uber Elder.

hopefully Viperstrike will be good

the only melee class I really enjoyed before was facebreakers infernal blow

Alright. I might give it another look.

I don't think Viper Strike will ever be good. Poison on a melee skill with low 140% base damage just doesn't work. Even with the built-in melee splash and maybe a small buff in 3.7, it will still be shit. It needs a rework.

>spamming the same skill for hours and hours
How do you keep yourself entertained when you're just right clicking for days? Feels like playing cookie clicker

if it's not for you, it's not for you. Diablo 2 and 3, TQ, Grim Dawn; they're all spamming one skill with a couple other ones from time to time.

I like getting treasure and grinding while building characters I theorycrafted. I play 1-2 months a league and then don't play til next one.

still not enough to make me do the story line for the 4000th time

Have you ever played an ARPG that gives you many different skills on separate cooldowns? It always feel like dogshit, none of the skills are that impactful by themselves and you can't really specialize that much into the skills you like. The 1-skill system is vastly superior.

What are your predictions for 4.0?
Will this be the final nail in the coffin for Diablo?

I am curious how they want to pull it off.

In my opinion melee is not broken, but spells are. There are so many builds utilizing spells, that are able to kill the whole screen almost instantly and keep going. Some dont even need any particularly expensive items and can be done in SSF with no problem.

Meanwhile, melee is gimped in so many ways that its hard to compare. First of all, melee skills usually have a much harder time to get decent AoE going, in addition to that melee usually means getting close to enemies and in hardcore that means certain death eventually, there is always some kind of mob with a mod that will fuck you over in close quarters, it is just a question of time to run into them.

Melee used to have a much higher damage potential, especially for single targets, but all that is offset by the fact that you need to pile on so many defenses to not instantly get faceraped.

If they really want to make melee viable, they need to address the defense issue. Give melee chars good defensive ascendancies and more importantly skills. Fortify and the juggernaut ascendancy are decent tools, but still fall short.

Just my thoughts from a SSF HC faggot, btw.

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I play on hardcore and see how far I can get. The game stays tense until the upper 80s and then I usually die around 90 due to boredom.
Then I make a new character.

the game would run worse on on dx9. having the shadows turn off was purely a visual descision. it won't make your fps not hit sub 30 on a maxed out map

>thinks shadows off was good
it looked like the first build of HL2 with fullbright on: pure vomit.

It used to be a big deal that it wasn't channelled, like you could abuse movement speed/ATK speed to get it to hit faster, by targeting your feet so it ended asap.
But then it kept costing mana, so that was an issue
What I mean is, that cyclone being weird has added something to the way it was used

I'm still mad at the Nobel committee fucking up the Norwegian economy by praising him.

On skill gems and passives maybe, but power level of items remained quite constant or slightly increased with addition of higher level affixes.
Now people pull 3 implicit boots out of their asses and essence craft them

Thanks, bro.

>8% less phys damage taken isn't additive with your endurance charges
? yes it is. all sources of "X% additional physical damage reduction" are additive. that's why it says "additional" in the first place

Wait isn't there some support skill gem for channeled skills? So can I finally whirlwind and shoot other skills out at the same time?

every showcase of aoe in the league preview was with atziris axe, carcass jack chest & inc aoe + templar aoe nodes. you make of that what you will

They did say that they were reworking how Armor interacted with a bunch of shit and how it scaled. Also that melee hits now stun shit faster then spells do and that bosses can be stunned easily so that you have plenty of safe chances to attack. It looks like they understand that melee was pretty much fundamentally broken in terms of survivability.

I believe that is a good choice, I did ED trickster this league and thought it was better than ever, because you can easily use bane to put despair+curse of your choice on enemies at without gimping yourself with blasphemy. Also intensify gives you even more spread radius, making it spread insanely fast and wide.

Yea, obviously that's why the preview is even more bullshit.

>Socket Vaal Jewel
>the right side of the tree is now viable
So, no passive skill tree changes?

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Interesting. I guess it might work if you can reliably stun enemies with your melee attacks. I tried something like that this league with heavy strike/vigilant strike, but it just didnt work as I had hoped with neither skill. My reasoning behind trying vigilant strike was that you cant miss, but the stun chance and damage was just bad. Oh well, maybe it works next league.

Yep
>Cast When Channeled Arc with Mjolner
Put Cyclone+CWC+Arc+Added lighting damage+whatever else you want in something like Inpulsa's for lightning kabooms on death
Then stick Arc+CoC+added lightning damage support on the Mjolner so you can Arc while you Arc
How can we make this build more stupid

It makes most of the Labyrinth run much more visible.

That won't work

CoC will need a attack skill linked to it to proc, so can't put that in mjolner.

No, it's not.
%Less damage taken is mid-calculations.
Infused Channeling is Less. Jugg Unrelenting is Reduced as are Endurance Charges. These are applied first to damage taken. Then it is lessened by %Less. Then, if Phys, it is mitigated by Armor. If Ele/Chaos, mitigated by Resist.
Now stop being a retarded turbonigger and calling Less additional when you can't even read what he's fucking saying.
It is fairly strong nonetheless.

I think Diablo 3 was more interesting than PoE. In Diablo 3, you actually used an array of abilities, in PoE you just spam your one AoE ability.

unfortunately then they decided to make sets priority and buffing 1 or 2 set skills with +10,000% damage and ruined everything

While you aren't wrong, you're still being a faggot.

Are they ever going to add physical-only multiplier gems to get around the usual having to stack "more...elemental" for damage that's worth a shit, on builds that want to stick to melee mechanics and don't have room for a pile of elemental gems?

Hmm right, I'm a dummy
Good thing is Mjolner doesn't need CoC though because it has the unique ability to autocast on hit so grab Resolute Technique and gg, you'll still be Arc'ing while CWC Arc on chest does its thing for double the Arcs and the Arc slotted into Mjolner will be doing 100% additional damage with every autocast.

They never should have taken out the slot swapping from the early gameplay, having a second skill to swap to would have been great.

agree. but it allowed to easier see important things

? less is same as additional. are you being retarded on purpose?