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Based. I hope other countries follow suit
How much money is this Jew making anyway
>literally gambling
>lol its not because you're not getting any money in return
>inb4 stopping multi billion dollar corporations from preying on the mentally ill and the children is bad because fuck Trump
Based.
no it's bad because the evil gooberment stops corproations from being able to fuck consumers, that's a bad thing in ameriga
i never said they should be "left alone", you know it's possible to have opinions about multiple things, right? of course the loot box shit is a nightmare, that was my point. it's retarded to give these companies a free pass on labor issues but get up in arms about loot boxes. you should be mad about both.
Corporations, like wives, need to be ht in face daily.
If you stop doing that, they will start to scheme against you.
Take your cancer somewhere else faggot, we don’t need two threads.
>archived
Based
If that's what you got out of where the last thread ended you have some serious brain problems, my friend
Exactly, it is a totally different situation, what the fuck do you not understand about this?
Based Republicans making gaming great again, one of his staff even went after kotaku.
Why are people against others spending their money?
I get stopping kids but why adults.
the "hide thread" button is behind the blue arrow
law literally satets it targets kids
below 18
what is your argument here ?
because you can't be trusted with anything that turns you into a zombie, and we suffer the negative consequences of your behavior; having to share the same gay planet as you
t. absolutely seething EA shills
Sorry boys, but you brought this on yourselves.
You couldn't fleece retards with regular dlc like you used and just had to go full drug dealer on the children.
Again, please tell me how is Little Timmy maxing out his moms credit card and getting them into debt, potentially losing their house because he spent 7000$ on lootboxes something that should be allowed and left unchecked?
I am not a "sovereign citizen" nor a communist freedom fighter fighting "the man" like yourself, so please, enlighten me.
>These are very resourceful people, and I’m sure they can design games that don’t rely on gambling directed at children in the center of the game.
Pretty based to be honest
He doesn't have one.
>gubermkent bad
>EA and VALVE good
based gooberment jannies
>law literally satets it targets kids
>below 18
Except the M rating means it literally doesn't. It's a parent's responsibility to make sure their kids don't play these games, and it's the parents spending the money on lootboxes anyway
Do we ban gumball machines cause a kid payed 25 cents to get a flavor he didn't want?
I hate loot boxes as much as anyone, but I'm also not keen on Government getting trigger-happy with regulations. This proposed bill better have some VERY specific wording.
>Again, please tell me how is Little Timmy maxing out his moms credit card and getting them into debt, potentially losing their house because he spent 7000$ on lootboxes something that should be allowed and left unchecked?
no one you replied to thinks that. of course this shit should get cracked down on you fucking moron, but painting people who said that the "think of the children" stuff is a little hysterical fearmongering-y as "FUCK DRUMPF" dyed-in-the-wool SJWs is disingenious and vastly simplifying the argument
>EA announced Viceral's Star Wars game was canceled
>Barely anyone cared on Yea Forums
>EA announced that THIS TIME, a true Star Wars single player game would be made and handwave any microtransactions etc.
>Without warranting any trust or faith people actually became excited here
>See people cry about Loot boxes getting fucked over, IE EA and even getting mad
So we really do have EA shills here.
>directed at children
name one game with lootboxes that isn't rated M
>target children
How would you prove this? Most popular loot box games are rated T and M for starters. Two, no video game company is dumb enough to directly target children so that's inherently false. Are they aware that children are probably buying it? Sure. But that's not their problem, there is enough barriers to entry going on where something like this shouldn't be happening unless the parent is incompetent. For example, Call of Duty has had this loot box garbage for years now and that's probably one of the biggest games played by children. But that's a rated M game, at what point do you say "Be a fucking parent."? This isn't a case like McDonalds bundling predatory shit in their happy meal.
>Hawley: I’ve heard from lots of parents who say that their kids, the stories about all of a sudden these charges, ‘What are these weird charges on my card? I thought I already paid for the game, how is it I’m being asked to pay more? Did I authorize this, how did the kid buy it?
How did the kid buy it? Because you gave them access to your card you dumb fuck. Why is it always the dumbest fucking people that reproduce? I hate these laws that exist to try to cover up for people's stupidity. Like in New York where they tried to limit the size of cup you could purchase because fat fucks got diabetes from their massive soda drinks, even though you could just buy multiple fucking cups making it all null anyway.
This just seems like politician that just wants attention, this isn't going anywhere.
>Except the M rating means it literally doesn't
THIS. All they'll have to do to get around this shit is say that the game isn't marketed to kids, even if a huge chunk of the playerbase is under 18.
>Again, please tell me how is Little Timmy maxing out his moms credit card and getting them into debt, potentially losing their house because he spent 7000$ on lootboxes something that should be allowed and left unchecked?
Show me one time this has happened.
Nah, its just boomer politician being a boomer. He is a Republican, so I suppose he just does not view video games as anything but glorified toys, and fucking over them does not conflict with his ideologies.
Overwatch
Overwatch
You're right.
We should also have unregulated casino gambling, bank loaning, prostitution, drug production and distribution, maybe even unregulate rape, killing and theft because government is badong and oppressing us!
FIFA, and other EA sports games
Most mobileshit games
FIFA.
you guys sure are keen to promote government regulation when it comes to anything that isn't guns or labor huh
How the fuck does stopping publishers from ruining games with gambling fuck them over? And if you say it's a choice, just fucking kill yourself you retarded shill.
Was kicking over the strawman cathartic for you?
I have more if you want.
Unfortunately, Yea Forums only allows one image per post.
man i sure love the government ignoring the bill of rights and shit as opposed to exercising its legal authority
This is a problem with theft, not lootboxes. Kids steal all the time for things they want
gobirdment always wins, baby
No dawg, you were right.
There should be no reason a five year old should not be allowed to gamble in Las Vegas or buy prescription drugs like they are candy.
We also don't need id's or drivers licenses because that's a dangerous slippery slope and we are all sovereign citizens!
go to bed dad
>We’ve heard from gamers, too, talk about this ruining the integrity of the game by essentially changing the way the game works.
GAMERS
HE LISTENED TO GAMERS
Damn, we need to ban these kids from stealing.
get out of my house
Not him, but you're moving the goalposts.
>"people" on Yea Forums will defend this
Easiest way to do that in this case would be to charge the devs as accessories to theft.
>wives, need to be ht in face daily
yikes.
What's the problem? She shouldn't have been disabled. Not glorious Tencent empire fault she wheelchair bound.
Are you honestly saying that there is any other way these things happen and there are parents that would willingly let their kid spend 50.000$ on a video game?
So if some guy steals my credit card and buys a bunch of graphics cards for mining cryptocurrency, should we hold nVidia responsible?
A reminder.
why i will just ignore reality and say that she should just have prevented that from happening, and damn anyone that claims that fortnite is targeted at children, with the knowledge that they have diminished impulse control
again, you're misrepresenting the argument. no one is "defending" kids being stupid and using their parent's money on microtransactions, they're saying that the issue isn't inherent to microtransactions themselves. the real answer to this is to not put your fucking credit card info on a device that your child has access to
Nobody defends anything, people just bait others at their pleasure. Welcome to Yea Forums.
inb4 800 replies of "that's a totally different thing"
Called it.
Are you honestly blaming a game developer and publisher for someone stealing somebody else's money and spending it on their shit?
>giving your child access to your credit card, ever
What is with parents these days? I would have to fight my dad to the death to even get a glance at his credit card.
ive been voting with my wallet for so long and yet things keep getting worse
fuck this industry, if its greed has caused da gubmint to get involved so be it, they all deserve it
What has the developer or publisher done to limit the kids from spending 50.000$ on their video game?
The way most app/game stores do everything they can to lock in your credit card info every time you purchase anything (resetting the default to remember on every time you buy anything is fucking cancer) means they are actively trying to help children steal money from their parents. Although I guess it should be tim cook and gaben getting arrested for being accomplices to petty theft rather than the gamedevs.
i tried voting with my wallet once, but the machine wouldn't accept it
Just point out that you can be against lootboxes but also be against government regulation. Especially since this shit all comes down to bad parenting.
I blame services like snoy and microsoft. They require credit card data for online. Child has access to it from his psn/xbox account.
The parents are fucking retarded for giving free access to their bank accounts in the first place. Nobody but the parents are accountable for that.
i don't give a give a shit about protecting retarded ass kids and their developing brains from these LOOTBOXES AND PREDATORY PRACTICES.
the problem is that retarded ass whales make the whole industry worse and i wanna take away their power to do so.
The gum ball should be regulated if company producing it goes full jew, making it dispense rocks and gum-ball-like plastic shells
>the mentally ill and the children!
The classic shield for faux justice
Youre literally just a vidya social justice warrior and its pathetic
>tfw you've lived long enough to realize jack thompson was right about videogames all along
A lot of retards save the details in their browser/phone/console. No idea why, I live alone and still hate the idea of saving my card details anywhere but my brain. Especially when you have retards like Sony storing everything in plaintext.
Children can also be whales if they have rich parents.
I legit don't get how game journos like Schreier can support shit like lootboxes despite how hardcore lefty they are. If you read his questions in the article he sounds like he's fucking seething at the thought of this guy trying to fuck with EA and Activision. It's like we live in some sort of bizarre opposite world.
who knew that your opposition to "sjws" was just about your need to exploit retards and children, or as we call it now: true justice
Normalfags are clueless creatures. They have zero survival skills on the internet. Basic security of personal information is not something they know about.
Hey thanks for posting an archive link.
>EA dindu nufin
(((they))) are here.
Like i said, we must unregulate everything because the government is bad and can't be trusted.
Fucking this
Welcome to woke capital, where megacorps get a pass to the all you can evil buffet the second they put a gay nigger in their ads.
daily reminder that the law targets children
if you are against the bill you are either a child or a shill
He was right about everything.
It's just that he was an ambulance chaser and a scumbag that did him in.
Schreier gets sponsorship from companies. Just like any other journalist. If gamers get paid to stream, then journos are 100% bribed.
>mentally ill
A tiny, tiny, insignificant percentage of the population who are dependent and should not have access to large sums of money in the first place
>the children
an age group that should not have access to large sums of money
IF YOU ALLOW A MENTALLY DEFICIENT PERSON OR A CHILD HAVE FREE ACCESS TO YOUR BANK ACCOUNT, YOU ARE FUCKING STUPID. THAT RESPONSIBILITY IS ON YOU.
I wonder if video games would actually get better if lootbox and mtx were banned or if devs would just find another way to attempt to milk your wallet.
>What has the developer or publisher done to limit the kids from spending 50.000$ on their video game?
By safely assuming that a fucking child doesn't have instant access to 50,000 dollars.
you shouldn't be allowed to move or speak freely, but here we are
I imagine if that happened, all the big name multiplayer games would be subscription based from then on.
>make billions of dollars EVERY YEAR from fifa and madden
>still feel the need to kike your consumers like a complete scumbag
>actually go out and challenge a European government to be allowed to prey on the retards and for the right to fleece them out of their money
When will it end?
>second link
>>EA dindu nufin
did you read my post? I actually want lootboxes and shit banned
I hate lootboxes but this isn't something the government should be intervening in.
Why can't people just not buy lootboxes?
Why can't parents just not store their credit/debit card info on devices their children use?
Why can't parents just set up parental controls that practically every device has?
I mean as shitty as lootboxes are, if people want to buy them then they should be able to buy them. What happened to letting the market decide? If everyone hated lootboxes so badly, they probably wouldn't exist. But clearly a lot of people like it, and not just young people. I've known adults in MMOs that would roll hundreds of dollars in gacha every major update and they clearly loved doing it. They got a thrill out of it.
If that's what people want, it should exist.
>YOU'RE A COMMIE IF YOU DON'T WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO REGULATE THE FREE MARKET
>CAPITALISM IS BAD AND IF YOU DON'T THINK SO YOU ARE A COMMUNIST
what the fuck is this thread?
what's the grey shirt guy?
Being in a wheelchair doesn't stop you from being a decent parent
>le soiboi is the only argument
>at the end if the interview he seethes because of Peter Thiel and Gawker
Like pottery
Madden Ultimate Team makes EA 1 billion dollars annually
Communists now support big corporations that fuck you in ass but help them grand stand.
epic argument.
>safely assuming
More like turning a blind eye.
And that's why this is happening now.
Because people are retards and as a citizen you have a contract with the government to give away a piece of your freedoms for protection of the state, in this case protection from getting your child addicted to online gambling.
If you don't like it go live in a forest in the middle of nowhere.
Daily reminder to all of you fucks that we tried voting with our wallet. We tried playing the game with these corporate clowns but the game was rigged from the start. Voting with your wallet has never worked since this trend became mainstream. Government intervention fucking sucks but we tried other methods and guess what? Nothing fucking worked. It's only gotten worse as the industry had fallen to greed and not having to care about customers when they can easily target the new generation of kids every few years. For every wallet that doesn't vote. Someone's thousand dollar wallet makes up for it. You are a fool if any of you think that voting with your wallet honestly works today as it did years ago.
Fascists
>that fuck me in the ass
no, I don't buy loot boxes.
what part of your childish moral axioms do you think is an argument
>in this case protection from getting your child addicted to online gambling
My protection from this is just being a good parent with common sense.
Republican.
That's not enough, we need MORE despite the fact that we have been selling the exact same game with minuscule changes for over two decades now.
Except a game that wants to be designed around loot boxes will simply just become M rated games and we will be having the same discussion in a few years
And it won't even matter because parents regularly buy their kids m rated games and/or stores don't give a fuck and sell call of duty or whatever to teenagers without a care
That's not enough.
How fucking passive aggressive can you get, really? Why did he think that was relevant at all? Why did he not omit him being a big baby?
Then get a senator to campaign a bill to stop people from reproducing, that is something that will actively help things by reducing the amount of mouth breathing morons come into this world
The government regulates gambling, that is a common thing that governments the world over do. "Why can't people just eat healthy?" "Why can't people just not beat their kids?" "Why can't people just get along?" Some things don't have simple answers, and sometimes if they do have simple answers, no one wants to hear them.
The answer to that is simple user: People are simply retarded and need big daddy government to protect them.
>why can't why can't why can't
because a lot of people are really stupid, and their foolishness ultimately impacts the rest of us negatively. Why can't people just not drive 100 mph in a neighborhhood? Because they're stupid and enough people got hurt from their stupidity, so eventually we employed enforcement. If you don't believe that government should get in the way, then I guess we should abolish copyright laws. After all, why can't people just not pirate, right? Parents should just tell kids not to download emulators
Yes it is. Giving free access of your entire bank account to a child is not something a responsible parent does.
>"joke" about being down with releasing porn with a 4 year old on your website in a high stakes trial worth millions of dollars
>get torpedoed into bankruptcy by the jury and judge
>clearly a lot of people like it,
See:
No need.
He'll introduce a bill that heavily regulates online gambling in video games instead.
Problem solved.
so we should abolish child gambling laws?
do you remember albert daulerio's testimony in the gawker trial in which he thought it was clever to sarcastically suggested they would publish sex tapes of children over the age of four
what i am implyiing is that gawker employed only the most clever people
>this thread
youtube.com
>muh appeal to the extreme fallacy
We should abolish all gambling laws.
why should we have to wait for you to die
lol
>"Are you at least 21 years old to use this app?"
>YES/NO
Wow. Somebody got a promotion for this.
Except now they can't pay the millions of people employed by the developers.
SeeGenerate better parents or stop useless people from producing dumb children and you actually solved your "problem"
Are you gonna ban people from skydiving because it's deadly?
Are you gonna band people swimming in the ocean because it's deadly?
Regulation? Sure. Banning though? That's a different story.
If you want to make a law that says you have to be 18 to buy a lootbox, you won't see me fighting against that but its literally impossible to enforce. It's just fluff for politicians, it doesn't solve the core issue, which is stupidity on the parents part.
Wow. You’re definitely fresh from reddit. Also cas is an absolutely not the same as credit cards . Kids don't need to rely on their parents to use cash and the arugment was needing credit cards for buying lootboxes. You cannot dispute this fact. You’re point is moot and you’ve proven you’re a retard. Congrats
No, now they can't employ all of those people AND also feed their cocaine addicted prostitutes.
how are they going to pay them without retards that buy gambling crates
>Kids don't need to rely on their parents to use cash
They rely on them to get the cash in the first place you fucking mong.
If you want to make a law that says you have to be 18 to play at the casino, you won't see me fighting against that but its literally impossible to enforce. It's just fluff for politicians, it doesn't solve the core issue, which is stupidity on the parents part.
or you can regulate the business activity you don't like
huh i wonder which one we should do
Oh no, how will the people that make billions of dollars every year from fifa alone sleep at night from now on?
>n-no, stop trying to regulate online gambling that preys on the weak minded, j-just be a better person, haha, got em
Pathetic.
If this law doewsn't hurt you and will in fact protect people, why are you so against it, "user"?
The market will regulate themselves when those people have no more money and die from being homeless.
No they don't you waste of braincells. Cash isn't the same as credit, kids don't need to rely on their parents to use cash. Thanks again for proving you're a complete and utter retard who doesn't know shit about kids.
Yeah, let me just generate some new parents, I'll get right fucking on that.
you didn't answer the question smoothbrain
>Why can't people just not buy lootboxes?
For the same reason people fall for slot machines, because big flashy lights, animations and a potential for something really awesome
>Why can't parents just not store their credit/debit card info on devices their children use?
Because people are retards that choose convenience over common sense
>Why can't parents just set up parental controls that practically every device has?
Because half the time the average parent has difficulty using a PC in of itself
The whole reason this law is even gaining any support whatsoever is because companies have had years to wisen up to not going full retard on lootboxes and failed, because whales make voting with your wallet obsolete, and most consumers are so sick of lootboxes they'll gladly take something that gets rid of them veiled with the prescedent of muh children because they just want them gone with
Most likely the way itll come to it, with the way the law is written, your mainstream AAA cowadooty and Halo, Fortnite, and anything T or lower wont have lootboxes in them, and anything M that does have it will market itself explicitly for adults only. So EA and their FIFA/Madden Train and Epic are fucked, at the least
Obviously leave it unregulated and just trust people to be behave nicely.
I can't wit until rape is abolished on the idea that people will just have to do better and that they don't need a protection from the state in case a nigger tries to muh dick them.
by that logic we should abolish child gambling laws and underage drinking/smoking laws since its the parents fault if their kids end up spending money on those
and this is why we're living in the worst timeline
This will only make things worse. Massive corporations have 150+ IQ geniuses working for them to find loopholes and systems to exploit fat children into spending more money. We have already seen this with CoD, where you can't buy lootboxes directly, and instead have to buy a Battle Pass, which you can then "level up" for loot boxes, but leveling it up is a tedious process you can speed up with microtransactions. The end result is even worse to the consumer thanks to threats of government action.
The only real way, the only tangible way to fight loot boxes and greed is to simply not pay for it. To opt out of these absurd money making systems, and put your money where your mouth is. However, your average "person" (and by our Father in heaven, I use such a term lightly) who plays video games is either an obese child who gurgles on shit as he uses mummy's credit card to get that sick epic nasty skin his favourite streamer has, or a subhuman third worlder who only understands immediate gratification and not earning things through effort and skill. We're basically fucked and I hope things get worse forever.
Here's a stock image so people pay attention to me.
So... How do they get cash in the first place? It's not like it's 18th century where they can work
>Why can't people just not buy lootboxes?
most people don't. also you don't need a credit card/debit to buy lootboxes and parental controls don't prevent those purchaes.
>If this law doewsn't hurt you and will in fact protect people
It doesn't hurt me and it won't protect people. Let this dumb ass bill go through and watch the industry just become more profitable and you people who seethe at gacha and lootbox so much, which also doesn't affect you at all, will see just how much of a human problem it is and not something that needs government policy
>every transaction for lootboxes now needs mandatory authorization sent by bank to card owner.
There, fixed.
surely if we decriminalize crimes we'll get fewer criminals
i learned this from extremely smart neoliberals
skydiving doesn't impact me negatively so why should I? Meanwhile your cancerous lootboxes are spreading into vidya like wildfire, which does affect me
>b-buh competition! just don't buy games!
You want a slippery slope? I'll give you a slippery slope. Why stop at one two or three? What if it ultimately spreads to all games one day? Or hell, the practice spreads to other industries and we need to gamble to get the food we want? Yeah, it's a ridulous argument, but about as ridiculous as thinking lootboxes will lead to anime tiddies getting banned, and ultimately communism will spread across the United States, killing 60 million people.
You are literally, genuinely fucking retarded if you think kids can't get cash without their parents. Like full blown stupid.
Because regulating the free market is bad. Banning lootboxes because kids steal their parent's money and spend it on lootboxes is equivalent to banning Amazon because kids steal their parent's credit cards to buy whatever the fuck they want on amazon.
You'll have better luck doing this than trying to police the vidya industry with government regulations because of those "pesky gamers!"
I reckon it was just as cathartic as it was for you.
What's your point? I just said I'm down for regulation, I'm agreeing with you. Copy/pasting what I said in a different context only works if I'm against you.
If you want to put a bunch of rules to protect the kiddies, go for it. I don't have the slightest problem with that
But my point is, that's not the same as outright banning which is what this bill wants to do. Adults should have freedom to waste money on whatever dumb shit they want to.
And again, regulation doesn't solve stupidity. If you put a "you must be 18 to buy this" box before a purchase, it doesn't do anything. It's just there for show. I mean, if it makes everyone feel better then cool but its not protecting anybody.
companies will just sideways whatever bill their come up with
>and you people who seethe at gacha and lootbox so much, which also doesn't affect you at all,
pretty funny how this board was shitting all over mtx, lootboxes and dlc not even a year ago, but once local legislators and and redditors started bitching and taking notice Yea Forums did a 180 instantly
>Let this dumb ass bill go through
Good, we are in agreement then.
this. the solution is to just sit back and watch the world burn. We shall all laugh together as well watch, fellow honklers.
don't worry no one is going to regulate your free market
it'll still be there in your mises pamphlet where it's always been
Hey, you have to be 18 or older to post here
I agree we should ablolish regulations against child labor, regulations don't solve stupidity it doesn't do anything. It's just there for show. I mean, if it makes everyone feel better then cool but its not protecting anybody.
Whatever method is in your head of children acquiring thousands of dollars in cash sounds like a bigger problem than lootboxes, my mentally retarded friend.
Not quite bitch boy.
Casinos tried shit like this already by pretending they werent technically gambling if they gave a consolation prize everytime and got told to fuck off with that garbage.
I can't believe that someone can spend 50.000$ on a game in a short span of time and that at now point the bank sends even an sms to the card owner telling them to check themselves.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I NEED MY OVERWATCH SKINS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Yeah man, what's next putting people into prison just because they sold drugs? There has got to be a line somewhere. We as autonomic citizens have to put our feet down against the opression.
i'm pretty sure putting bobby kotick in jail for 15 years would do wonders
Thanks for conceding.
Are you retarded?
Any kid can mow a lawn or rake leaves for 20 bucks.
Not everyone lives in the hood tyrone
Stay assmad, EA shill.
Your reckoning is nigh.
Video games already tried this and it failed. The next step is the Battle Pass thing, which is essentially making the chests a "bonus" you receive instead of the main draw.
Okay so you're retarded and don't want to have a legit discussion, got it.
Kids. Don't. Need. Their. Parents. To. Spend. Cash.
You are completely and utterly retarded. A mental defect. Thanks for removing all doubt.
this is the jist of it. The people bitching about muh government are actually just mad zoomers.
>a microtransation that grants access to randomized awards
Not gonna fly
Silly goy, the microtransaction grants access to set rewards! Look, you paid to "level up" your Battle Pass, which got you this nice AR-15 skin for your online murder simulator! You also got yourself a nice chest to open as a bonus, which definitely isn't the only way to get the best rewards.
Anyone complaining about lootboxes is a wageslave communist. If you people don't want retards to spend money the solution isn't to get rid of the things that those people spend the money on, the solution is to get rid of retarded people through national socialist ethnostates, but that triggers you. That's your solution to "le greedy gorporations" too but you'll keep shilling for communism until every white skinned person on the planet is dead.
How am I retarded? Explain to me why kids shoudn't be allowed to work and gamble if regulations don't solve stupidity of their parents, and they don't do anything. It's just there for show. I mean, if it makes everyone feel better then cool but its not protecting anybody. Like user said, whatever method is in your head of children acquiring thousands of dollars in cash sounds like a bigger problem than any of the things we need to supposedly regulate.
>pesky gamers
What? Have you paid attention at all? The senator says he's doing this for the gamers.
take your meds user
Threadly reminder ANCAP retards are just as bad at economy as commies
>anyone who is complaining about the things that make the industry worse on the video game boards are communists
They need their parents to get cash in the first place.
Why are you acting like children paying $50,000 in cash that they get from selling drugs for prepaid visa cards is somehow a thing and also the responsibility of game publishers and government to regulate?
>gooberment regulation is bad
>therefore the gooberment should have the power to exterminate entire ethnic groups on a whim
stop putting amphetamines in your ass, chris
>corporations are smarter than you so just let them have unlimited power and vote with your wallet
i wish we had a national socialist ethnostate so you would be gassed and i could get regulations on cartoonish gambling mechanics
>the solution is to get rid of retarded people through national socialist ethnostates
Ok that was good, I admit that it made me "kek".
>guy says hes cool with laws to protect children but doesn't want it to be banned for everyone
>why don't you want laws to protect children!?
Uhhh goys I mean guys, corporations will just find a way around this, so there's no need to regulate us, I mean them he he. Look, we, I mean they may be lobbying for said regulations not to get put into law, but that doesn't mean they're effecfive. They're just doing it for the lulz.
>They need their parents to get cash in the first place.
No they don't you stupid motherfucker.
My point is that the best solution is full on capitalism or full on national socialism. Both work tremendously well.
Why should there be laws to protect children?
Why are you acting like children paying $50,000 in cash that they get from selling drugs for prepaid visa cards is somehow a thing and also the responsibility of casinos and the alcohol industry and government to regulate?
There is a better solution but talking about it on the internet makes you look edgy and retarded and nobody would ever follow through with it. You get the government to fight your battles, eventually they'll use the weapons you gave them to slit your throat and kick your lifeless, raped corpse into a shallow ditch before moving onto the rest of the fat, lazy idiots they have lined up who thought they could make a difference.
>literally having microtransactions anywhere new loot box systems
Not gonna fly buddy.
so well there are zero states that practice either on the entire planet
There are always without fail people defending loot boxes in these threads.
I wonder why that is.
Yes they do :)
lets say a retard chills near a cliff. two guys approach him and one of them readies himself to shove the retard down the cliff. the other guy quickly grabs the retard and forcibly pulls him away from the ledge and tells the other guy to fuck off. how will the retard react?
a. thanks man that guy was up to no good
b OWIE STOP PULLING ME YOU HURT MY ARM
but this law isn't banning it for everyone, just the kids, so why are you people so against it?
if you are an adult you can still buy retextures for you hat and knife trading simulator, it's just that anyone under 18 will be barred form it.
No they don't.
And if you let corporations walk all over people with no accountability they'll do the god damned same thing.
The USA in the 20th century did and it worked very well.
Germany did this in the 20th century and thrived despite the entire planet screeching at their right of conquest.
>work extremely well
>gets bullied to death by a cripple, a drunk and a slav manlet
lol, hitler was a cuck
This is a stupid comparison. It's more like one guy pushes a guy off the cliff, and another guy saves him with a lasso, which he then fashions into a noose and high fives the pusher as they dangle the victim over the ledge.
>Choose to be stepped on by someone I can choose to pay money to, or someone who will force me to pay money to them with fucking tanks in suburban streets
Huh. Hard choice. The game is rigged, genius. Corporations cannot exist without the state and vice versa.
I just wish the scope of what games it applies to wasn't so poorly designed, I guess going all in on think of the children is the only way to get it to pass though.
>full on national socialism works tremendously well
>literally had to buy entire trucks just for the tires before scrapping the rest because of rubber shortages
socialism is socialism, faggot. you're just a commie with mildly better dress sense.
Explain how a child gets 50,000 dollars in cash. Also explain how a child gets 50,000 dollars in cash from not-their-parents.
(You have the burden of proof, so yes, you do have to)
>capitalism lets some asshole sit at the top of a corporation doing nothing while working people give him all their money
>socialism lets some asshole sit anywhere doing nothing while working people give them their money
These both suck
>government, bad
>uncontrollable mega corporations, good
Didn't you hear, we live in a society with complete individuality of a citizen and even the slightest attempt by the government to regulate something is treading on us and a cause for a revolution and public revolt.
>this law isn't banning it for everyone
Yes it is.
>Senator Josh Hawley (R-MO) today announced a bill that would ban loot boxes and pay-to-win microtransactions in “games played by minors,” a broad label that the senator says will include both games designed for kids under 18 and games “whose developers knowingly allow minor players to engage in microtransactions.”
Literally every game ever made.
dude the united states has never practiced unregulated capitalism in the entirety of its existence
>if it lose it means i win
go back into the dustbin of history you failfuck
>this is what retard ancaps actually believe
>>socialism lets some asshole sit anywhere doing nothing while working people give them their money
you described communism, not socialism
Corporations have historically used weapons. Look up the battle of blair mountain. You can pay for the means to step on people.
>games designed for kids under 18
So it's not banning it for everybody?
bend over
bend over
read a book instead of parroting platitudes.
I don't have the burden to do shit you retarded monkey. Kids don't need their parents to use cash like they do their credit cards and no amount of extreme 50k examples will change that fact. Go pound sand.
>games played by minors
Yeah that's pretty much everything. Hell, the M rating starts at 17 not 18. 17 is still a minor in the US.
kek i need to go to bed
>archived
BASED
You literally just did that you fucking faggot.
you should read to the end of the book
>Why can't people just not buy lootboxes?
I haven't
And yet the games I used to play that had lootboxes eventually resorted to make skins their main content for the big updates instead of any significative changes, improvements or additions. I would gladly spend 60$ bucks for a story mode of Overwatch, even if it's stupid short like 5 hours, but since lootboxes are a thing the devs can literally ignore at minimum 5 months of a year just pumping cosmetic shit into their recycled events and saying that's the content for the month. After that you'll either get a new map which has the same fucking formula than the ones since launch, or a hero, which is a 50/50 of it being either fun to play for you/actually good or absolutely trash/unfun. And I'm not given any other options to buy what I actually want.
Hell I would even pay for the last TF2 comic issue that will never fucking release because there's no money in it and Valve doesn't give a shit about it
>lootboxes get banned from literally everything
How is this a bad thing?
Hopefully games will go back to being 100% complete and having free unlockables like costumes in the game itself.
If you want to spend money that hard, just throw them off a bridge.
>games whose developers allow minors to buy microtransactions
>Literally every game ever made.
lol what a retard
>Stops kids from gambling w/ mommy and daddy's money
>encourages higher quality content to be made
This is a win/win situation, except for the big corp losers who enable this crap. Only a literal incel would get mad at this bill.
It's "games played by minors" AND "games designed for kids under 18." That's extremely broad, intentionally so.
Also I don't know if you realize it, M rating starts at 17, not 18. Those would also be included under this bill, meaning those games would not be allowed to have lootboxes in them.
It's a ban for everybody.
>Why can't people just not buy lootboxes?
why dont addicts just stop doing heroin? whats the point in war on drugs when people can just quit?
>meaning those games would not be allowed to have lootboxes in them.
Good.
Anarcho-capitalism is impossible. Markets require a state in order to be present. Smith's land of pre-currency barter never actually existed, barter has only ever existed in areas where money was once used but now is no longer available. Pre-currency societies based their markets off of social credit with the rest of their tribe. The earliest known uses of currency by the Mesopotamians was used a way to standardize recordkeeping for debts owed to the temples and palaces, where the actual value of the coin was irrelevant in comparison to the fact that the currency was used in order to pay for taxes and debts owed to the state
Ratings don't mean shit.
>Corporations cannot exist without the state
Neither can the enforcement of property rights.
>designed
*Defined
I don't like lootboxes so I don't care either way but if other adults want them, its not really your business to tell them how to spend their own money. Just avoid those games.
why did you think ESRB ratings had anything to do with lootboxes?
You're a one trick pony.
>just look the other way and the problem will go away
That's not how it works.
I don't like tainted meat so I don't care either way but if other adults want them, its not really your business to tell them how to spend their own money. Just avoid the restaurants that serve it.
Good. And we should also be banning the moral degeneracy being spread in literally all media. We have sex, miscegenation, extreme violence/gore, profanity, transfaggotry, homofaggotry, antichristian propaganda, antiwhite propaganda, pro marijuana propaganda, pro feminist propaganda. This list of leftist brainwashing runs deep and it's all aimed at our children and it's in games, movies, TV shows, music, social media, everything and everywhere. It's about time we started purging this shit. Start with those disgusting JAP PEDO games. Gross.
lootboxes offer a way for unskilled non gamers to invest in video games. just like in arcades any chump could beat final fight as long as they kept inserting quarters and investing money. real gamers dont care about cosmetic shit because they are on a skill level where they enjoy the game as is.
I never said the problem would go away though? Just play other games, its that simple. I don't play any games with lootboxes in them, its not hard.
Never become a lawyer, you're too retarded to read.
credit feeding didn't give you a random chance to win the game. also trying to falsely equate arcade games to p2w just makes you look like a colossal retard.
ea employees conflating business practices with content again
You say you don't care, but you seem to be parroting the same old arguments from those who do care. You seem to have a vested interesting in keeping them around.
Said the retard
The fuck are you trying to say? Are you literally speaking in defense of the moral degeneracy assaulting our children? You faggot cuck kill yourself. I'm not conflating shit we should be banning both business practices AND content. Why the fuck do you think so many males are turning into fags or trannies? The brainwashing has been happening for decades
The logical conclusion here is that if I have to avoid games with lootboxes, then I have no reason to care if those games get fucked over by lootbox regulations. And it's in my best interest to see this demonstrably abhorrent business practice get demolished by regulation, either self-inflicted or by the government, since it means less games that I have to avoid because of lootboxes.
your shareholders do not appreciate your language pajeet
>tfw a strawman makes more sense than people defending lootboxes
There's a schmuck born every minute.
>if I make a false equivalencey nobody will notice how intellectually bankrupt I truly am
lootboxes is not a form of artistic expression dipshit
Ok mr.Kotick
Cool, more ways for smart people to earn money.
sounds like a great way to justify running a ponzi scheme
Artistic expression should be just as bannable as business practices. Its arguable just as harmful to the moral fabric of the nation and to future generations. The propaganda breeds weakness. Every strong state has enforced some type of censorship on subversive propaganda, just look at the Chinese and the Nazis. We should not allow our artists to turn our children into traitors, degenerates and weaklings
I don't care though. The only thing I want is as little government intervention as possible, that's what I care about. I don't like the idea of the government banning things in my games, its a slippery slope. This just involves an aspect of gaming I don't care for so I'm forced to be against it, but that's in spite of the subject matter.
If loot boxes are going to die, they should die because the gamers made it so not because the government decided adults shouldn't be able to have this aspect of gaming. Also playing other games is a valid argument. You don't have to support things you don't like. That's not in support of loot boxes, its the opposite. That's telling you don't give money to companies that do this shit.
You misunderstand user, the mentally ill are the retarded parents that give their kids large sums of money to spend on v-bucks
>Artistic expression should be just as bannable as business practices.
Just like the retarded parents that give their kids large sums of money to spend on alcohol and gambling. Therfore we should abolish those underage laws.
lots of shithole countries for you to live in pajeet
lootboxes are a slippery slope because the practice will eventually get sp widespread that there will be next to no gsmes without them. Sorry goyim, but gamers are never going to rise up.
Imagine how deeply EPIC is fucked if this law passes. When the endless stream of kiddie gambling money from Fortnite will dry up, just think about Sweeney's panic. EGS won't be able to support exclusives and will crumble, Gavёnkin will be out on the streets. Such a delightful regulation, USA, now you just need to ban games as a service and everything will be perfect.
the point is that both cases involve investment of money. just like the credit feeder in arcades the guy who buys lootboxes does so to get a sense of investment. both are replacing actual sense of accomplishment with synthetic vending machine version of satisfaction.
Please don't do this, Yea Forums is shitty enough as it is.
The only thing I want is as little lootboxes in my games as possible, that's what I care about. I don't care about your werido crypto-religious internet ideology. You don't get to use slippery slope arguments to defend lootboxes after people warned you that unfettered monetezation in games with things like horse armor and on disc DLC and season passes would lead to this. Especially when video games are already protected from censorship by the first ammendment.
You've been brainwashed by the libertarian small government cult user. Government's not going anywhere. You might as well use it to your own selfish advantage like other special interest groups instead of crying about it. You're just cucking yourself by living out of principal.
Oh? And why should we allow subversive propaganda to corrupt future generations? Why should we allow media and colleges turn white children into self hating guilt ridden pussies who put the lives of foreign 3rd worlders over the strength of the nation? Retarded cuck. Explain that one to me. What good will it do to teach future generations to tear down their own society? LE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION AND SPEECH has been a brainlet value that's only made the west weak.
the point is that it's a false equivalence, and calling either an "investment" is disingenuous at best. Spending money to get a random digital item is not comparable to spending credits in an arcade game.
you aren't clever or funny you 80 iq retard
Justify existence of lootboxes in video games as opposed to complete games or post release dlc
Go!
Faggot. The country is TURNING into a shithole because we allow subversive values to turn our children into NEETs, trannies, homos, communists, drug abusers, pedophiles, communists, criminals etc. Censoring subversive propaganda OBVIOISLY keeps your nations future generations from becoming useless degenerates. I AM 100% CORRECT THE WEST NEEDS MORE CENSORSHIP NOT (((FREEDOM)))
hey man i'm ok with the cia putting you in a black site
>Justify existence of lootboxes
Why would I do that? I hate lootboxes.
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you're literally foaming at the mouth for attention, you stupid shit.
Seeth harder faggot. I haven't seen you give me one good argument outside of "MUH FEELS MUH FREE SPEECH"
DAILY REMINDER ITS FREE SPEECH THAT HAS LED TO EVERY BIT OF SOCIAL DECLINE SEEN IN THE WEST FROM FEMINISM TO HOMOFAGGOTRY. LETS GO BOOK BURNING. START WITH THE PEDO MANGAS
I highly doubt it.
GOOD. now we are getting somewhere. You absolutely agree that some thoughts are harmful and need to be silenced. We are already on the same side.
Reeee how can they stop multi billion dollar companies from exploiting consumers?! Reeeee. COMMUNISM!!!!! REEEEEEEEEE. HOW CAN THEY FORCE THEM TO MAKE GAMES NOT DESIGNED AROUND MICRO TRANSACTIONS!? REEEEEEEEEEEEE.
Lefty terror state! We at EA are the good people!
Shut up falseflagging faggot.
your posts are stupid tryhard roleplaying user
if you want an argument try not being boring
>hurr we need to protect children from loot boxes because it makes them spend money
>oh but the propaganda in music telling kids to abuse marijuana or glorify gang banging? That's okay. The games and TV shows telling kids it's okay to chop your dick off or be a faggot taking cock in the ass? That's ok
Hypocritical pieces of shit.
get a job that doesn't involve taking advantage of children freak
Well, you're a moron then because that's common sense. If I had to choice between spending more money and spending less money, the choice is obvious. Who the fuck would choose the latter? I've never spent a single dime on a lootbox and I don't buy or participate in games with them, only morons do that.
I just don't want government intervention. If the government wants to limit this strictly to children and do a bunch of laws to that would make everyone else have to press a prompt confirming they're 18, who gives a shit. But a ban? Adults should be able to do what they want.
Don't bring politics into shitty ass game development.
Hey dipshit
The argument is simple. We are for banning business practices to protect kids, why should we also not ban art? Why? Why do you value artistic expression so much compared to business practices when it's clear what kind of harm subversive propaganda does to future generations. All you cowards pretend my argument has no merit without even having a single point in rebuttal. Youd think if I was so blatantly wrong you could destroy my logic easily. .
Shitsucking retard who can't tell the difference between content and business practices.
>We are for banning business practices to protect kids, why should we also not ban art?
user i'm not going to waste time defining the liberal case for freedom of expression to someone that is just upset that people tell him he can't abuse children
Who cares? They both cause massive harm to children and art should be just as bannable as business practices. Not a single person has been able to prove me wrong. You telling me if you ran a country you would allow your colleges to teach children to hate their own country? And you think no harm will come of that?
You're not owed an argument. You want to act like a moron, then get treated like one. There's your fucking rebuttal.
The liberal case for freedom of expression has been proven factually wrong. Proof : the current state of the onions nu-west
ok retard
>Who cares? They both cause massive harm to children and art should be just as bannable as business practices.
ok user but you still need to get an honest job
>Not a single person has been able to prove me wrong.
Prove yourself right first, faggot.
Not an argument.
>games get banned in amurica
>they focus on asuan market instead
lol
Seething. Literally no argument. You would allow your own children to be raised to hate you and want to sell out your legacy? I dont believe you. You know everything I said is true but it conflicts with your NPC brainwashing you've been indoctrinated with since you were a child so you choose to seethe and insult. Acting as if your argument is implicitly true without explanation being necessary, that is true sign of brainwashing
My problem with this ban is it pretty much kills every small MMO that exists right now. The MMO I play right now is F2P and the community is like, 500 players at most? We've all congregated onto the same server and the only reason the game still exists is because of gacha. If gacha is banned then the game either dies or they put a ridiculous pricetag on everything to survive. Then at that point the rest of the faithful will just leave and move on because technically the gacha would have given us more for our money and we'll feel like we're being swindled.
Ww3 soon
Jason sounds like he has an axe to grind with this guy, especially because of that last question. Why? Is it just because he's republican?
>Literally no argument.
I wasn't responding to one. Cry more.
I already have. Art can be used as propaganda to brainwash your future generations and potential lead to massive social upheaval. I've made this argument many times now and you still cant disprove it Why dont you prove freedom of artistic expression is implicitly a good value?
Do you even read what you post ?
You literally proved his point you retarded fuck
>has been proven factually wrong
They can still make money by selling things honestly, in a store, upfront
This is no issue for devs or gamers
play better games
How did I prove his point you drooling mongoloid?
In my life i was restricted to DISNEY VHSES AND BARNEY SINGALONGS IN THE 90S.
ART FROM BEAVIS AND BUTTHEAD AND GOD DAMN REN AND STIMPY AND GOD DAMN EVERYTHING FROM THE 90S SAVED MY LIFE
you are either already financially supporting the game or you are free riding on some fucked up people
When did Yea Forums get invaded by pearl-clutchers screaming THINK OFDA CHILRUN
If you want lootboxes more regulated then you should also go after TCGs and other collectibles where you can't tell what you're getting. It's even easier for kids to buy those since they can be bought with cash, no daddy's credit card number needed. Also ban kids' toy commercials since they brainwash kids into wanting unnecessary crap. Having children is a fucking moneysink in a million ways, and them wasting money on Fortnite is the last thing to worry about.
>inb4 ea shill
>inb4 hurrdurr why do you love lootboxes so much
>inb4 b-but games will totally become better if government just regulates them more
>They can still make money by selling things honestly, in a store, upfront
>\the game either dies or they put a ridiculous pricetag on everything to survive. Then at that point the rest of the faithful will just leave and move on because technically the gacha would have given us more for our money
>propaganda/art has never been used to turn a nations own citizens against itself
lmao are you feigning ignorance? The hippy movement? The Arab spring?
You haven't proven shit. You're just spewing nonsense conjecture and saying DISPROVE ME PROVE ME WRONG like a mindless dipshit. Get lost.
Sounds like a shit game that shouldn't exist
never going to stop concern trolling are you ea shill
>my opinions are facts
No
yeah i bet islamists love being governed by quasi-secular dictators and the cia changed their mind with twitter
Just like this thread is doing.
WW3 has been planned for a long time
The internet is under control of govts and corporations.
Right and left would not exist without them.
Litterally world is about to be united under atlantis inner mind knowing past lives spirituality.
And you are only making this come sooner
All these folks posting screenshots of children spending thousand on a game have clearly never seen a teenager who's into Magic: The Gathering.
no one actually gives a shit about the kids. we're just using them to advance our anti lootbox agenda
You faggot you're just in denial. Art has been powerful enough to tear down regimes and strong nations, it's been proven dozens of times, in almost any revolution. You fuckkng dishonest piece of shit you want to talk about nonsense conjecture why dont you try explaining why freedom of artistic expression or freedom of speech are desirable values for a strong stable society ?
The difference is that when it comes to collectibles and trading cards, you can sell the ones you don't want and you can just buy the ones you want off other people. You can't do that in a digital space. You're retarded if you can't understand this difference.
This isn't only about the children, but the manchildren too.
There is nothing, absolutely nothing, that doesn't have a limit, and capitalism is no exception.
>dude if you don't want dlc don't buy them lmao
>dude if you don't want paid online don't play online lmoa
>dude if you don't want game sold in chunks don't buy game olma
>dude if you don't want a game entirely designed from the ground up for nickle and dime to the point your experience is crippled unless you allow them to scam you omla
Eventually, your retardation made it possible for a lot of game to actually cost north of 90$, and this without counting the dlc that was originally in the game itself, the cut content that is now always sold as an extra (you had expansions in the past, now everything is an extra).
For your own good, we have to stop you.
That's how F2P MMOs work, its a continuous cost. This isn't Fortnite where Epic just has to pony up server costs and for some skins to be made. MMOs have real content being made constantly, that's not cheap.
When the player base is low, gacha or absolute jew prices is the only way its going to work. That's just a reality and most MMOs have small playerbases. WoW and maybe something like Maplestory are the only games that would probably be fine.
You're only posting because you're lonely and want people to get angry at you. Also your feeble attempt at calling anyone dishonest is dripping with irony. Get a life.
its not about the chilluns
its about watching companies that use lootboxes panic
To all the people crying about government regulation, what other options do I have? I tried voting with my money, but whales get multiple votes because of how much they can spend. I get consistently ignored every time.
So you know what? I'm going to use the government to overturn their vote. And if you don't like that, tough like. Stay mad while I destroy your lootboxes with regulations.
>NOOOO YOU'RE A COMMIE REEE
Cry me a river dickface.
>If you want lootboxes more regulated then you should also go after X, Y and Z
No I don't. Also physical collectiables like TCGs are different from lootboxes and we've been over this already.
>Its even easier for kids to buy those since they can be bought with cash, no daddy's credit card number needed.
You can buy cash cards stupid. We've been over this already
>Also ban kids' toy commercials since they brainwash kids into wanting unnecessary crap
Commercials for cigarettes and alcohol are already strictly regulated, are you saying advertisers should be able to air them on TV too?
>inb4 hurrdurr why do you love lootboxes so much
You clearly do since you're trying to defend them by falsely comparing them to TCGs
>inb4 b-but games will totally become better if government just regulates them more
Games are better without lootboxes, that's undeniable fact.
You can sell accounts in many games, though it's not technically allowed.
>You fuckkng dishonest piece of shit you want to talk about nonsense conjecture why dont you try explaining why freedom of artistic expression or freedom of speech are desirable values
Shit like CSGO and TF2 is literal gambling. You're paying for a chance to get an item that you can sell for money
Still cant prove freedom of speech is an objectivelydesirable value. I've already proven the merits of censorship and the fact freedom of speech allows for subversive thought and revolution. You lose. Cya.
So why would you even bring it up?
This senator is based, he already popped out another bill that would allow every american to opt out of being tracked by big tech.
Not to mention it's completely destroyed the economy. 40 refined for a key, wtf is this garbage?
Fascist gang : 1, freedom gang : 0
Not one person could prove freedom of speech is an objectively good value for social stability. I won. I'm gonna go back to my /pol/frens now. Peace out losers.
>prove me wrong or else I'm objectively right and you lost
there is no philosophy without ignoring objections. I'll toss my pearls before swine here and give you an additional protip, you don't "win" arguments, you either have a discussion to actually search for the truth or engage in sophistry to influence third parties. It's fucking pathetic and retarded to walk away thinking "you won" something in your own perception.
All my statements were all a priori and unsubstantiated because if they don't resonate with you I'm not interested in explaining things to/arguing with retards.
Subversive thought is planned by the elite
After this fake crisis we are going to just have another bullshit 1960s which your kids will outwit you
Don't let those 30 year old pictures get into the hands of your kids who will knock you on your ass for owning them
>I get consistently ignored every time.
So why are more companies removing loot boxes?
BASED
It's good at any other time but war time
They are seeing regulations coming, so they hope if they tone it down governments won't legally block them all.
We already went over this Cletus, you're not fooling anyone with your minarchist-pretending-to-hate-lootboxes shtick: Also how come you fags all turn into Dale Gribble in every thread about lootboxes but whenever we have piracy threads you're suddenly fine with government intervention and copyright laws?
If your game can't survive without exploitative gacha then it doesn't desrve to exist. Doubly so when its a chinkshit MMO, the absolute bottom of the barrel genres of games.
>If your game can't survive without exploitative gacha then it doesn't desrve to exist.
If a person can't survive without insulin then they don't deserve to exist.
What a retarded nonsensical comparison.
oh no that's literally everyone
>tfw turns out my ugly as fuck Prinny Machete is worth 36 refined
>go forth with the transaction
>use that refined to get cool cheap hats for my classes
dont need no gay Strange or Unusual shit
>food analogy
Lootboxes are factually designed to target the gullible and easily addicted. To say that you don't buy them and never will means nothing because you were never the target audience. These gaming companies hire expert psychologists to maximise the profits earned from whales. They make sure those dumb fucks keep spending hundreds of dollars every month. This is in fact taking advantage of people.
Do you guys think these commies would use such hurtful ableist language in their discord servers or on resetera?
Nah, go fuck yourself.
Right back at you gachashitter.
Everyone requires insulin to exist you high-school dropout.
I'm defending capitalism, not shitty games. I don't care about your fucking vidya.
>in comes the 56% with his favourite meme, the commie meme, because he loves sucking the circumised cock of his masters, no matter if they are Activision or israelis
>muh """""capitalism""""
>I don't care about your vidya.
Go fuck yourself the.
>games should be killed with unnecessary regulations so that only a few big names can exist
>just because lil timmy might get hooked on fortnite because of shit parenting
He wouldn't have stolen the money if he wasn't addicted
>Yea Forums defends loot boxes now
I'm a self employed entrepreneur and you're a wageslave
any goddamn gacha game on the market you fucking dumbass. you'd be surprised at how many kids play those damn games.
Literally anything that you get enjoyment from is addictive. If it's not one thing it's something else.
>shit games with objectively abhorrent business practices should be killed by any means necessary so that they can't influence otherwise good games
Fixed that for you, mtx apologist cretin.
What are the odds this bill even goes through? most congressmen are either in the pockets of big corporations or take laissez-faire.way too seriously
You're an ESL NEET larping in a feeble attempt to defend trash and I'm better than you in every way
The differences is that lootboxes are made specifically to get you addicted so you can spend more money
It's a bill, not a ban
There will be an easy loophole around it.
Anything addictive (porn, fast food, even playing video games) is inherently addictive and is arguably made for the sole purpose of feeding addiction
What worries me more than lootboxes, is how fucked up the kids that buy thousands of dollars of this crap will be when they grow up. Adults buying it is fine, but when a ten year old grows up thinking all videogames are like this, things are going to get a whole lot worse for us.
No it isn't'.
For all the lootbox apologists here, give me one good reason this game shouldn't be regulated under gambling laws. The government should allow this game to be sold to children and parents should be responsible with how much money they give to their children.
Can't wait for companies like EA to just hide it all behind the ESRB ratings. Oh our game is rated Mature and thus intended for people older than 17, it's not our fault you let 12 year old Timmy have this game without following the ESRB rating. It's the perfect excuse because they can shift the blame onto parents who allow their kids to play a game "intended" for an older audience. Take Call of Duty and Activision as an example, the game is clearly rated M so they can say this is the people who should be playing this game and that all the parents who buy it for their 12 year olds are to blame if they pay for stuff
t.muslim
Lootboxes will keep coming, since normal fags that only play Fifa or COD buy them.
They're already setting lootboxes in single player games, look at Rage 2. World of Warcraft was subscription based, and even that has micro transactions. No wonder people want Wow classic since anyone can buy mounts.
So here's the thing, if bannig game transactions and lootboxes makes over 50% of companies to close, i'd rather have that than what we have now. Less games, but we'll good ones.
M is +17, 17 is still minor
Because the mechanics are invading tons of games and restricting content for no reason and affecting normal people instead of just the gacha market. Because they're also trying to get your money there's never an easy way to get the loot boxes and cosmetics are still part of the game too regardless if they don't directly affect something they're still an object you'd like to obtain or like to flaunt and it's ridiculous. Battlefront 2 alone should be enough to make you see the idiocy, but Shadow of Mordor and Assassin's Creed Odyssey are just two games I can think of where the game is far grindier just to push for people paying for lootboxes or buffs to speed things up.
Then get the fuck out shill piece of shit
you have to be mentally ill or a child to gamble real money on loot boxes though
>mfw looking at that bald midget running black ops 4 and the shitty development team that created all the douche bag looking specialists in said game (black ops 4)
I hope the entire AAA industry crashes.
hearthstone :^)
>Not glorious Tencent empire fault she wheelchair bound.
The crash is upon us, lads.
this whole thing is hilarious desu, hope they burn.
An M rating is not an AO rating.
Which is clearly one of things this is pushing for.
free market capitalism has never been tried.
>>Why can't people just not buy lootboxes?
>Why can't parents just not store their credit/debit card info on devices their children use?
>Why can't parents just set up parental controls that practically every device has?
Clearly they cannot, why is irrelevant. People can't do it and it is causing them severe harm, so someone has to step in.
It's similar to asking, why won't people stop taking their totally legal medical methamphetamine?
It doesn't really matter, but it is causing problems in society and then the government has to take responsibility and act. Like it happened.
>Schreier: What would you say to a video game company that says, ‘Hey, without these things, you’re going to cause us to crash, cause this entire industry to fold?’
>Hawley: These are very resourceful people, and I’m sure they can design games that don’t rely on gambling directed at children in the center of the game.
What a fucking boss. Get fucked greedy game companies. I can't wait for this crash to happen.
>Why can't people just not buy lootboxes?
Because it is the most deceptive practice, borderline fraudulent.
This.
Also fuck'em.
>nazi germany
>strong state
wtf am I reading
Freedom of speech is only useful for intellectuals. The masses don't need em.
Why can't homos and degenerates stop getting AIDS and STDs?
Why can't trannies undergo hormone therapy that is aligned with their biological sex, instead of undergoing sex change?
We live in a clown world, user. Get used to it.
Ban baseball cards, it's gambling directed at children
Freedom of speech would've worked if people did not abuse it to spread faschist, nazi or white superiority propaganda, or anything similar.
In the end it's a good thing that US exists, at least we can see how NOT to be a liberal democracy.
This is why people need to vote in younger senators, they understand what they're trying to regulate. Old ass senators don't even know how the internet works.
Yes, user. Predatory business practices are protected by "freedom of speech".
OH WAIT
fuck EA
fuck Activision
fuck Ubishit
fuck Rockstar
fuck Lootboxes
fuck Gachashit
i want da gubmint to dab on the entire industry
and fuck Chuck
Imagine gacha mobages being freed from this shit, literally heaven. We'll get free shit when this pass globally.
unironically the difference between trading cards and lootboxes is retarded parents. back in the day you had to beg mom and dad to physically hand you money so you could buy something, and most of the time they would say no. now retard parents have their credit card info saved in their iphones and kids can buy shit without asking