Hello. We are the only worthwhile Final Fantasy games

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Type-0 is also great

If a FF game doesn't have a job system then it's not worth playing

Yikes!

VIII and XII are the "fuck you I liked it" games.

I'm playing through IV right now. When does it get good? I'm at the part where Tellah died.

I think it would be more widely appreciated if the sequel didn't exist

Tell me why 9 is good. I dropped it a little after you get the red hair guy.

That's a really random assortment of Final Fantasies

9 doesn't belong there

I'm installing FF12, what am I in for

hello. we are the real worthwhile final fantasy games.

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A good, but flawed game. Make sure you put combat speed to x4.

kill yourself

I hear it's like an offline FF11

IX is so fucking overrated.

No, it's really different from FF11. It's more like traditional pc rpgs in jrpg skin

9 is good pretty much until that point

WHY is everyone getting a hardon over 9 lately, while shitting on 8? I remember in early 2000s it was the exact opposite.

The ruined the perfect ending with the post-credit scene.

IX is underrated.

hipsters

How is 11 different from that?

cope.

Hindsight is 20/20 and everyone has long since realized 8 is complete garbage.

lolno

It's an awful game only furfags praise.

This is the only worthwhile FF game. Not even joking.

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the post-credits scene was great, it could have been interpreted as tidus reaching the farplanes. X-2 fucked it up

Have you actually played 11? Of course not.
Besides having open world enemies it's very different.

The only good FF games are Crystal Chronicles and XI

explain what's different

It’s literally the only playable game. The rest are hot garbage that has aged like shit with terrible gameplay. The only drawback of X is aeon dungeons.

>the meme one nobody likes because it's boring but everyone pretends they do to fit in
>the one with the top 3 battle systems in the series
>the one with best story
>the one with best characters
>the shit one that nostalgia and furry fags like
>the one that did everything well

the one that wasn't bad

>the one that was better than XV but was still very bad for the same exact reasons

>the one that is actually really good but everyone likes to hate aka reverse IV situation
>the one that is actually really really good but everyone likes to hate because they have ADHD

Nah its a ham-fisted happy ending that ruins what could've been an otherwise great ending that dared to steer away from the generic happy ending.

So I played FFVII for the first time ever and my God is fucking awesome, which FF should I play next?

FFVII A NEW THREAT

Download the game and find out for yourself. There is a 2 weeks free trial.

Hello. I am the only worthwhile Final Fantasy game.

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I have it and it's literally the same type of thing, I want to hear your argument on how it's not

>the meme one nobody likes because it's boring but everyone pretends they do to fit in
IV? It was my first one and I just finished it recently, I thought it was pretty fun.

just realized i forgot a few. now it's perfect.

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Replace VI with II and we're set.

IV is fun, but the constant death and bringing back of characters really wears thin after awhile, and I dont think the dungeons are very interesting

oh well, Im only at the part with the wall boss and trap doors, maybe it gets better

VIII is underrated

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No its rated exactly as well as it deserves to be because it sucks.

honestly it's not. it's correctly rated.

That image isn't blank, so it's wrong.

It's appropriately rated as being mediocre.

Is Final Fantasy 7 worth playing on iOS mobile? I got it for free, and I constantly on the go. I’ve never played FF7 before.

X is 90% unskippable cutscenes, it's hardly playable

I played FF8 like 4 times. Seeing Yea Forums shit on it is hilarious to me.

>Combat system that punishes you for leveling up
>Story that revolves around a close time loop, meaning everything you did was basically for nothing

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I'm sorry about your shit taste user.

The best dialogue in FF history because Matsuno. 10/10 world. Combat that's pretty braindead for the most part but still fun. 10/10 dungeons. Penelo's ass.

It's not a problem for me. You're just intensely afraid of combat in a video game that you can easily break if you choose too.

I played pretty much all FF

>no FF13 saga
Fucking neck yourselves, tastelets.

>V

Fuck yessss

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9 was last of the "old" final fantasy. It had issues like shit music, slow gameplay, some awful characters but overal it captured the very feeling of 1 to 8 and summarized it as last throw back before new generation of ff games.

This list is undeniable provide evidence to the contrary or suck my fucking dick
>Best ATB system
FFX
>Best music
7
8
10
(6 doesnt get in because dancing mad is its only song worth a fuck and its 50% plagiarized anyways)
>Best world
4
6
7
9
10
>Best characters
4
5
7
9
10
>Best Logo
1
4
6
7

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>final fantasy 5
opinion discarded

I'm actually thinking of replaying FFVIII. Right now I'm playing through FFVII again with mods.

>I played pretty much all FF
Im sorry about your extreme shit taste user.

stop being a fag

You forgot 10 and FFTA
Also 12 didn't have the best story after the intro and had really meh combat, but those dungeons were all comfy as fuck
Also Final Fantasy on the NES is still fucking kino

Stop having shit taste

>Not playing one of the best entries

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Tell me what I'm supposed to like then

4 is unironically one of the best designed FF games. The combat is fast and lethal with enemies that hit like trucks. It's one of the only games in the series that really requires you to exploit weaknesses and use crowd control spells to avoid getting ganked. Shame there was 0 customization though.

>This list is undeniable provide evidence

ur mum lol

8 is kind of bad, but really interesting in its own bizarre ways, kind of like 2

X does not use ATB, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

The CTB from X is basically the same as the ATB except it pauses when it gets to something's turn and you don't have to wait for it to fill up. It's the ATB with the waiting and input lag cut out.

As a faggot that's only played 1 through 9, 8 is shit. However, 8, like 2, has some of the best music.

XIII is unironically the best final fantasy

>2
>best music
I mean yeah that battle theme that only plays when minh wu is in the party in the gba version is pretty good, but the music sucked on the famicom version

II's music is pretty lackluster, granted it's on the NES. VIII's is very good, though.

The xiii trilogy had the best gameplay in the series
Too bad literally everything else about those games sucked veiny horse cock

ATB already has a built in option for cutting out waiting.

>ix had shit music
I didn't realize that it was possible to have taste this bad
>some awful characters
If we're talking party members only really Amarant and Quina were bad.

>best world
>iv
Honestly it's weird to include 4 but not 5. Pretty much all of the NES and SNES FF's suffered from kind of boring towns because there wasn't much to actually do in most of them outside of shopping for items and they just looked like Generic Medieval villages for the most part. Best towns of all time goes to Legend of Dragoon though.

>im-fucking-plying

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Ah, to be fair, my only experience with 2 is the psp version, so the music may just be a bit better there.

It's a good thing all the good FF games aren't hallways or you'd be in the way on that path

>the combat is fast and lethal with enemies that hit like trucks. It's one of the only games in the series that really requires you to exploit weaknesses and use crowd control spells to avoid getting ganked.
I'm thinking you probably played the DS version. SNES version was considerably easier.

4 gets in for having the moon and dark paladins

>X is a hallwa-

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Yeah the remakes of the famicom games all have drastically improved versions of the original themes. FF2 in particular had really short choppy loops for a lot of areas that I believe got real tracks in the remakes.
FF1 on famicom still had a based soundtrack

As someone who likes FFVIII more than most FF games, it really isn't. Almost all FF games are mediocre. And FFVIII got higher than mediocre ratings when it came out. Being at the top of the mediocre pile still means you're mediocre.

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Pretty much every mainline FF is worthwhile, even the 13 trilogy. 15 is up to debate.

I'm talking about the PSP version actually. SNES version was literally a different game and GBA version was riddled with bugs and seemed weirdly slow and crappy.
Haven't played the PS1 version

2 and 15 are the only ones not worthwhile.

Uh..yeah. Your picture proves it is.

the cutscenes are kino

y

Did you even look at what you posted? Having a second entrance to the same area doesn't mean it's not a hallway. If anything, it's a dishonest hallway.

FF3's soundtrack was also rad, and the remake only made it better. Best main theme in the whole series, at least in my opinion.

>9
furry

>VI
>VII
No Tactics is meh too

Fuck right off.

XIII is decent

>Best main theme in the whole series
*blocks your path*
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Oh yes user, one shitty desert really disproves that.
The calm lands would have been a better example, which says a lot with how shit the calm lands are.

Best overworld theme?
For me its Blue Fields

One of these two.
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Whatever FF8's is. Game is trash but that music is dope

Look, much of 10 is objectively a hallway, but unlike 13, it managed to never really feel like a hallway, at least to me.
For real though, best maps and dungeons were 12.

Not even baiting, XIII's world, music, story, enemy design, gameplay, graphics etc are all way above average for final fantasy, character development is good, the only complaint I have is that it takes too long to introduce all the mechanics and get you to the real game, which is probably why everyone hates it, some characters start off completely unlikable and the game takes too long to get going, but once it does it's amazing.

9 had some good tracks like final kuja fite, necron theme, desert palace but most of the music was just forgettable

each for their own, 9 is still my favourite but i think the music sucked

The story and characters sucks, the setting and the premise for the story are pretty good though. Also 25 hours before you can play the game for real is absolutely unacceptable.

> it managed to never really feel like a hallway, at least to me.
You're fucking stupid.
>best maps and dungeons were 12.
Christ god stop posting.

Only good FFs are War of the Lions, X, XII, IV, V, and VI. If you disagree you're a cocksmoker

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VIII is rated correctly. VIII was just in dire need of more polish. A good game could have easily been there had it had a little more time in the oven.

XIII's OST is one of my all time favorites.
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Does it hurt user-kun? Or are you being tsundere right now?

>IV
Stopped reading there.

You're probably the same age as me. You've got a really easily-identifiable swath of Final Fantasy games there, starting with your gaming career in 1992.

you guys keep on forgetting this one

well if no one else remembers at least I always will...

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>youtube.com/watch?v=eEEr1jnvFTw
You, I like you.
This song is near perfect and is the best to fall asleep to.

you got lost in giruvegan didn't you?

A lot of people don't like it because its structure is just boring. It makes sense within context that you're doing nothing but going from point A to point B with no downtime for shopping or exploration, but it's gets old quickly when there's nothing but combat in between the walking and looking at pretty shitty parts of the game. The writing is also total shit which is a shame because the universe and some of the characters are interesting.

Always wanted to ask this, why the FF3 hate? I even played it after beating 5, and I loved it even still. The job system was fun, and any options are good options. So why is it so unpopular? Is it because of its limitations?

FFIV is legitimately the most overrated Final Fantasy. Yes, more than VII. VII's praise is mostly justified.

I actually agree with you, except the story part. The story in XIII, like most FF games, is melodramatic, plot twist junk.

The funny thing about XIII however is, it does the complete opposite of the typical FF formula. Most FF games start off with a great premise and ruin it halfway through with plot twists and info dumps. FFXIII, the first seven chapters are info dumps and plot twists, with no context so the viewer is just frustrated, trying to figure out what's going on. Then Chapter 8 and on, they actually explain it all to you and the characters (except shitty Vanille) get good development with actual reasons to do what they did in Chapter 1-7.

it was an interesting but failed experiment to subvert the typical FF formula.

it's just generic

> FF6
> any worth
that's why your meme always is shit

Well, if you read the datalogs it all makes sense from the start.

Tactics>IX=V>VII>X>IV>TA>VI>XII>I>III>TA2>XIII>LR>XII-2>II>AY>X-2>T-0>literal dog shit>everything from compilation of FF7>XV

XIII has one of the comfiest soundtracks ever.
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FF3 didn't get released in the west on NES. When it finally released, it was the DS remake. And by then, everyone was expecting any new FF game to be Final Fantasy VII 2.0. Any game that wasn't was hated by the fanbase.

I loved it though. Story was almost non existent and classes were great. More FF games should be like it. Bravely Default could have been, but the endless talking ruined it.

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I hope the remake has nice alternate costumes.

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Is the extended universe of FF7 the worst mistake Square ever made?

The game basically plays itself for upwards of ten hours.
I don't even give a shit if the combat gets better past that, it's downright unacceptable and only made worse by the abhorrent excuse for a plot.
The soundtrack is nice, though.

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No, it really doesn't. You can get the jist that they're protecting Serah from being taken away, but by what? And then they keep name-dropping cocoon, fate, the guard force, pulse and etc. But you never get context for what those are until the later chapters. Once you see them, then it becomes obvious. But those first seven chapters are just annoying.

I wouldn't say hate, it's more just that III doesn't stand out at all, and honestly the original is pretty forgettable. The DS version was an improved in almost every way but it was basically a spin-off despite being a mainline game by that point since III was never released in the U.S. or Europe prior to it.

I would agree, even if I didn't like VII that much.

The movies did pretty much almost kill them, so definitely.

No, that would be ignoring most of their IPs for two decades and focusing on over budget FF games. And a bunch of bad investing that caused Enix to have to bail them out. I mean, they had some of the best selling games in the PS1 era and were still losing money? That's really sad.

FF3 is pretty brutal in endgame, particularly the marathon of a final dungeon. I can see it leaving a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths.
I'm a Wizardry-loving masochist, though.

The compilation is when squeenix really started being squeenix.
Just one huge steamy pile after another.
I especially hated the awful movie that didn't make a goddamn bit of sense and robbed cloud of anything resembling his original personality.

>No save point before the final boss
What the fuck were they thinking?

>wizardryfag
My fucking dude

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Remember when Square had variety? Everything from Parasite Eve and Front Mission to Bushido Blade and Einhander.

FFXIII-2 also has some top comfy music
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>bushido blade
That was the good shit.
Anybody remember that weird fucking racing RPG from the ps1? I think it had lagoon in its name or something.

Isn't that FF1?

>New Bohdum

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Yup, I do. The new management they have is slowly starting to return to that. But it's going to take decades to clean up the mess Wada made.

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Is it at least as good as 3?

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Final Fantasy Tactics Hard Mode 1.3 > Final Fantasy VI Brave New World > Final Fantasy VII New Threat > Other Final Fantasy games

>story
>gameplay

XIII has one of the worst stories in FF and the gameplay is easily the worst in the entire series.

>FFXIII
>worst gameplay
No FF game has good gameplay. But if you think FFXIII has the worst, you haven't played shit like FF1, 2, 11 or 15.

FF13 had the best battle theme
youtu.be/xJh47LybCkU

All you do is go North in that game.

I think you posted the wrong link, user.

why is -sy translated as -ji in Japanese?

No it's the right one, FF13's theme is Blinded by Light

Yeah, that's not what you posted.

to be fair, you pronounce it with extra emphasis so it's more of a "shi" than a "ji", which sounds much closer to "sy"

Take out IX, put in Tactics Advance and EHRGEIZ and you've got the list.

The last FF where both story and gameplay were good.

>FFXV has shit gamepla-

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nice bait bro, id take XV over XIII any time of the day, and it has probably the best conclusion for an FF game. XIII just felt you were watching a YT video

Remove IV and IX
Add VIII and XII

You're welcome

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I loved the shit out of My life as king. Isn’t Crystal Chronicles coming out on Switch? Hope there’s online multiplayer.

What did I post?

oh ok

-y

>a game that's unfinished has the best conclusion

lmao dumb XVkun

FFXV has the best ending of any game ever.

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such a lame take

it's not canon anymore, Bahamut was the bad guy all along, and Ardyn is the real hero of the story

>walk behind something then hold attack button
>also use a pair of interchangable generic special attacks
>you kill the thing slightly faster than if you just held the attack button from the beginning
Truly advanced and compelling combat.

FPBP

Git gud.

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>Ifrit was responsible for the starscourge and was the real antagonist of the game
>Nowhere in the game does it tell you this.
It's like they heard everyone complain about having to read datalogs in the game to know what was happening in 13, so they decided "hm, well let's remove all the details that provide context for the game entirely then, or at least restrict them to a shitty movie and OVA series"

It’s true. 8 is simply amazing for what it is and 12 is such a vast RPG.

9 is just a truly polished, refined, well written, perfect tale. It does everything right, the only flaw it has is slow paced combat.

>brainlet can't understand that combat looking flashy is not the same as it being complex or fun
I mean I understand that you're easily entertained by moving shapes and colors, but a game that implements "single-button combat" and "game over prevention" isn't fucking good.

You’re in for an uninvolved story that has a truly rich world with tons of content. And auto combat.

huh unfinished?? are we living in the same year or youre just retarded like that?

Oh look, FFXV Kun is here. The head of the project himself said there was more DLC that will never be released and the majority of people hate your game. Give it up, man.

The game was unfinished on release, which is when most people played it.
They tried to patch some of the holes up with DLC, but it was extremely unpopular and cost Square a lot of money, so they wound up dropping a lot of the later DLC that had been planned/made. So yes, even if you're referring to the current "finished product" the game is still very much unfinished.

Lmfao

well at least its better than having to wait for your/enemies turn and basically scroll through everything youve got because there's no consequence in taking too long. thats why i like VIII's combat system because it actually punishes you when you take too long in your turn and why turn based system will never be as good as an active combat in modern games

This guy gets it. XV has some of the best combat in any game ever.

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Hey XV-kun, I am a Melbourne fag and have a question for you
Seni gerçek hayatta tanıyor muyum?

try again brainlet. the cancelled dlc's you were talking about doesnt even give much of what the story is already telling you, ardyn's story is a much more important dlc because we get to see his perspective. and by the way XV made SE afloat again, so yeah keep seething

9 is one of the best FF games, what flaws it does have are overshadowed by its good qualities, I would say its top 3 at least. 8 on the other hand has glaring flaws that make is a much less enjoyable experience all around.

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>XV is good because it punishes you if you take too long to decide to hold the attack button down
Good video games require you to make decisions, and impactful decisions that actually matter in a combat scenario will often require this thing called thinking.
Besides, most final fantasy games have an active time battle system that will literally let the enemy keep going while you cycle through your commands, not that you'd know that since you've never played a final fantasy game before outside of the shittiest one.

most numbered games force you to make decisions in real time or have an option to make the menus real time.

>XV
>Lost so much money that most of the team that worked on it was laid off
How could one man be so wrong?

>I knew what the DLC was going to be, my dad works at SquareEnix
>in fact, my dad is literally Tabata
>screw that, I AM Tabata, that's why I've been shilling this game for seven years straight!

10-2 is shit
11 is shit
12 is shit
13 is shit
13-2 is shit
13-3 is shit
14 is shit
15 is MEGA shit
Dissidia is shit
world of final fantasy is shit
type zero is shit
7 Remake will be shit
16 will be shit
17 will be shit

1-10+tactics for life death to square enix praise Squaresoft.

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Cope.

but the starscourge fell down from space, what's all this about?

seriously getting tired of people pretending a tactical game is good or that anyone made it beyond that opening 6 hour mech cutscene in final fantasy 6, thats where it got the name from you know

>9
Enjoy your on rails, 'fuck exploration' gameplay, I guess. Me I'll be over here having taste.

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Oh shit! You are THAT turk I know.

what's that supposed to mean

unironically kys yourself

Based

YEAH RIGHT DUDE, ive played FF V through XV (not including the MMORPG one's). and now you just exposed yourself ahahahaha. you do know that FF V through VII doesnt even have any consequences in taking too long making your decision it was never done until VIII made it so. fucking brainlet making up excuses man i havent laughed this much in Yea Forums

FFX is trash my dude

>11
How could you rate that clunky mess so high

you guys should double check your facts before commenting, you guys probably just got your information in this board kek

I'm not sure if I'm being mocked or if you just can't speak English.
Maybe both?

>My favorite FF is the best and your favorite is shit!"
Every Final Fantasy thread, guaranteed. Even Final Fantasy fans hate the majority of the games.

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yup both, and im sorry if i cant speak english properly. it is my 5th language soo yeah there's your answer

You're missing the point, xv doesn't punish you for not making decisions, because there's no decisions to make in that game, you just hold the attack button and win.

Hope.

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I think that's why I like it so much honestly. I like interesting games even if they aren't super polished. I'm a big fan of SaGa Frontier too.

>it managed to never really feel like a hallway
You were young.

I'm guessing you're some kind of low IQ Turk.
It would certainly explain your unbelievably shit taste in games.

In case anyone is wondering XV kun in real life is some autist from a Turkish speaking family in Melbourne.
He doesn't seem to have realized who I am yet. Here is a hint, I have your phone number and you have mine. Yours ends in 78. Do you know how mine ends?

The setting, enemy designs, and music in VIII are god tier, everything else about it unfortunately is poop. I wish it was what I originally thought it was going to be about, based on misunderstood magazine coverage, where Laguna is the MC, and he's a journalist who travels to different planets investigating a conspiracy.

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Ok, explain why it's bad without anything involving furries. I couldn't give a shit about animal people, and it's one of my favorites in the series.

Is this real life?

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Stealing sucks
Trance sucks
Game is slow
Party is really unbalanced
That said those are really its only short-comings, outside of that the game is fantastic

VI-X are when the series peaked, though I would probably recommend IX or X. If you go into VIII straight after VII, you're likely to come away disappointed.

I'm sure it'll be fine. Phones are pretty good for JRPGs, since they're mostly menu-based.

>stealing sucks
wut.
Do mean having the ability to steal sucks? or that its implementation in FFIX sucks?

I mean the implementation.
There's WAY too many items with comically low steal rates, like that flute on the hill gigas, or the ice rod on gizamaluke
5 did the same thing but stealing wasn't nearly as prominent in that game

Mother fucker you tell us who Barry is right now.

>doxxing people you know over their video game preferences
Yeah, no. You're a fag.

Nobody hates him just because he likes XV. He's allowed to have shit taste.
We hate him because he's an autist who constantly spams threads with trash and samefags.

>Dissidia is shit
Them are fighting words

I'll fight you. Can you get a plane ticket to Mexico or are you some broke NEET? I'll show you how shit Dissidia is with my fucking fist.

it has 5 and 7 so i'm okay with this.

The only bad FF is II, also, XII is the best.

The Thiefmaster or whatever ability makes it much less tedious when it becomes available. Gigas can go fuck himself though.

Red Hot Chilli peppers: the game

I remember, was not bad. Yunita was the true waifu.

It's Bravely Default 0, same continuity too.

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elaborate pls

SCI-FI AND NON-AMANO FAGS LEAVE THE THREAD

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Good list, but you're missing one.
Ah, there it is, very first reply. Now the list is complete.

Just gives off that vibe

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meh, the voice acting kinda fucked it up and the two main characters were shitty.
Yuna was a walking door mat and Tidus was a narsisitic dumbass.
But I feel this game should be in Op's list, I mean great direction and style and decent game play. Playing as a summoned esper was cool too.

Actually, the vibe just screams "Chrono Cross." Not only the island based setting, but the temples, technology, spirits/time plot and so much more. Square has the right to copy themselves...but it seems like a real dick move to cut development time and money to Chrono Cross, then use a bunch of it's ideas and designs in their next big game.

The aesthetics of a realm reborn shows a lot of promise that SE could pull of a really good fantasy Final Fantasy game, which is said to be 16

keep in 9 take out 8, WoFF, adventures of mana
and put in Legend of Mana, Secret of Mana, Terranigma

Eh, it just has that cheesy 2001 feel to it

>story
>good
>Spoonfeed me, papa Square! I can't think for myself.

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"No"

>spirits/time plot and so much more.
FFX didn't have any time travel, it just makes you think it did.

1) learning 5 languages makes you low iq
English is my first language, but I am laughing at the absolute state of Americans

>terranigma
so we're not even limiting ourself to Square games now?

Have you even played Tactics? The historically medieval inspired setting is what made Ivalice originally so great.

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Yea Forums has always loved the shit out of IX for being a "classic" but slow FF. It was also the last great mainline game in the series.

>he thinks FFX had a bad story
are you high? Some of the voice acting and individual scenes could be weird but it probably has one of the most interesting plots in the entire series. It manages to go into completely wacky insane territory while still having the story make sense.

>IX

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Fucking THIS, finally someone else anknowledges this. FFVII has such a strong cult status that even the terrible spin-offs couldn't weaken it as the original. But in case of X, the sequel came so soon that the two games are connected too much in the minds of the audience, therefore X-2 drags X down. Honestly, I think XIII suffers from the same exact thing, even though it's much weaker game than any FF before it.
OP is kind of gay though and I believe every mainline game from IV to XII is notable and worthwhile.

>lately
Make it over a decade, zoomer.

Because sci-fi newfags are cancer

has the best story
has the best combat
has the best overall aesthetic
has the best characters barring VII
Yeah, checks out. This is easily the most worthwhile.

Fuck off, Toriyama. Your waifu is shit and so is her game.

>The first FF where both story and gameplay were good.
ftfy

getting the fairy flute from helgigas that early makes the game even easier than it already is. Haste makes things way too simple. I forget what gizamaluke gives you, but its no big deal either.

I loved the card game, Tetra Master I think its called? I managed to get a perfect game against all of Memoria's ghost card masters as well against the lady collecting stellazios as well as against her assistant. Also Chocographs were fun as fuck! Getting all those great items, weapons, cards...Then battling Ozma, which if you equip Zidane with Ninja Gear, and either Freya or Steiner with Demons Mail, you will absorb the damage caused by it casting Doomsday. Doomsday harms the party and the enemy whether you, or it casts. I went with Steiner equipped with the Demons Mail, Zidane with Ninja Gear, Vivi with the Egoist's Armlet, and Dagger with the Pumice Piece. Complete the Friendly monster sidequest first or else it cant be harmed by Physical attacks. Steiner using Shock; guaranteed 9999 damage each time, Vivi casting Doomsday over and over, as the entire party will be healed by it, while Ozma takes the damage. As I said, it takes the damage upon casting it too. Zidane can attack normally, as if you have either the Tower or Ultima by then, your normal attack should be close to 9999 or use Thievery which by then will do 9999 damage too. Garnet? Eh. She can heal you if its absolutely needed. Have her cast Reflect on Ozma cause soon He starts spamming Curaga for close to a 8000 HP gain and he can cast it twice in a row. Pumice piece on Garnet absorbs Doomsday so just worry about healing from his Meteor, Holy, and Flare spells. Also he can use LV5 Death, often as his first attack, so dont have any members level a multiple of 5. Cake.

I played it through again a couple years back, and since, Ive gained new appreciation for IX. The HARDEST thing to do in the entire game though? 1000 consecutive jumps in Vivis Jump Rope. Insanity i tell you

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Based and redpilled

Your existence disgusts us

It's pretty bland and grindy if you want the good stuff late game, and it doesn't have a sexy remaster with extra content like I&II. It just doesn't have much going for it.

FFX has some major convenience problems. And Yuna's entire involvement in the plot is negated by the end. Sure, it makes sense. But it's still a poor story. Probably the worst story I've seen in a game tied with FFIV and Ass Creed Revelations.

You forgot 3 faggot

>and it doesn't have a sexy remaster with extra content like I&II.
But it has a 3D remake

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FFI and II got a sexy remaster? I just remember the PS1 remakes. Which were hardly remakes. Just an SNES level graphical overhaul, with all the same gameplay issues retained.

For me, it's Dirge of Cerberus

pretty based. FF1 as well as FF3 are fun in their remake versions.

It's an excellent game, don't listen to the retards shitting on its combat system.
Pros:
> It has a lot of diverse enemies
> lovely dungeon crawling
> rich world with interesting lore
> gorgeous visuals for its age
Cons:
> it isn't a typical Final Fantasy story in the sense that you don't save the world like in FF7 or FF10: instead, you solve a political problem in a very specific region of the world
> some of the main characters are flat and boring, like Fran or Vaan
> the crafting system is a shameless BUY OUR OFFICIAL GUIDE cashgrab
YMMV:
> combat is very controversial because you program it - literally, it's a succession of if/else and do/while loops programmed by the user
> summons are useless, so you need to rely on buffs and debuffs (which are very useful)
> some people hate the fact that the first character you control isn't a main character

Not sure, I marathoned the first 3 FFs on PSP and all I can tell is that 1 was pretty fun, 2 was a fucking nightmare and not in a good way, I didn't even bother to finish it, it was plain bad, and then 3 was like alright, this is just so much better than 1 so, I really liked 3.

FF3 NES is pretty playable fir an NES title, except for the part where you have to beat it

Clunky 3D models are infinitely worse than the remasters the first two games and IV got.

Play the PSP versions on a Vita. It's a great experience.

Because there's no "si" sound.

Objectively the best FF ever made, also hopefully you are playing the original and not the homsexual Zodiac version
>more than 1 Zodiac Spear
>no dmg cap
>OP equipment overall
I still remember back then how I beated Yiazmat(no guide), it took me like 4 hours but god damn, is one of the most satisfactory gaming moments of my life.

>the voice acting kinda fucked it up
It's so weird because the voice actors themselves are actually fairly talented and known, it's the direction that was awful.
Like they gave them their lines with no context or anything and recorded them in different rooms and possibly different universes.

When I am playing I am definitely getting the zodiac version, since I like job systems

XVkun is a Turk? Yuck.

I'd add FF3 but otherwise fantastic list for fucking once.

For a replay is definitely the way to go, but as your first time playing the game the way to go is with the Original one.

>Maxima adds a bunch of new content
>not available on PS4 despite it being the reason the series is successful
>same with DQXI and FFXII
Why is Square like this?

Take out 6 and tactics and add 12 and 8 and it's good.

It's on PS4 as dlc.

replace V with XII and we have a deal

well thats what happens in recording booths, its the actors job to go from there. However a director is supposed to direct.

Type-0 was incredible

>the most overrated Final Fantasy
>Final Fantasy IV introduced Square's Active Time Battle (ATB) system

think again faggot

Exactly, a director is supposed to direct, the actors work with what they're given.
The one specific line that made me think the direction was shit was during the cutscene where Tidus meets Jecht at the end of the game and it's a really emotional moment. Jecht says "hey" to him with a bittersweet tone, like an estranged father would, and Tidus squeals back with a cheerful "HI" like he was greeting a friend he talked to last week.

Coworker is currently shilling me Lightning Returns, also that one Louis Vuitton billboard (shit's old I can't believe they haven't updated that adspace). Just how good/bad is it?

Gameplay was decent, everything else is absolute fucking garbage.

It's pretty fun if you get around the time limits

FFX has one of the most well designed turn based combat systems in any game.

>Jecht says "hey" to him with a bittersweet tone, like an estranged father would, and Tidus squeals back with a cheerful "HI" like he was greeting a friend he talked to last week.
where does this happen

Switch version when?

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Based

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The cutscene right before fighting braska's final aeon.

Eventually you get the whole party together and random story elements stop fucking with your group composition so you can start caring about them.
By this point there's only a few hours left in the game at most.
FFIV is all about story over gameplay.

Crystal Chronicles had a great aesthetic, and tactics advance might be the best portable game of all time.

>finally get the real party together
>one dungeon later kain fucks off again
>have to boss rush the 4 archfiends without him
FFIV is fucking abysmal

Some of the best Antagonist dialogue in the series.

Vayne is overlooked often, and I can understand why to an extent. He was just a Man. He doesnt have Godly ambitions of visions of destruction of the entire Planet. No real noteworthy Outfit, nor weapon. Hes definitely not the most interesting antagonist, nor the most original. But His dialogue, especially near the end of the Game is fucking outstanding.

true

Type-0 was amazing

>early 2000s
>everyone praises FF7, 8, and 10
>oldfags go on and on about 6 being god tier and getting into flame wars that 4 was better
>FF1 is okay
>FF2 is already known as a mechanical mess
>FF3 is ignored but considered a hidden gem by those who played it
>FF9 is just there really

>almost no one played FF5 and the three people who did said it was garbage bullshit difficulty with a plot that basically doesn’t even take itself seriously

>today
>every FF post 10 is generally maligned or worse outside of maybe FF14 2.0
>no one likes FF8 anymore
>FF10 is lamblasted for a whole variety of reasons
>FF1 is viewed as incredibly aged mechanically
>FF2 is still a trashfire
>FF3 is considered to be even worse than FF2 since almost everyone who played it did so on the godawful DS remake, FF3 NES is still a hidden gem
>oldfags still fighting over whether FF4 or FF6 was better
>FF9 generally liked by modern standards
>FF7 is still the crown jewel, tons of people calling it overrated now given the remake
>FF5 is on the top 3 favorites of most hardcore FF fans now, somehow including the story

The hell happened

>a plot that basically doesn’t even take itself seriously
I thought the plot in V took itself even more seriously than 4 but was very understated, like a slow paced 90s anime, and Bartz was just kinda silly at times.

Who the hell argues about whether 4 or 6 is better today? 6 is better by every metric and you can't even shitpost about it other than retarded Rydia waifufaggotry

>VIII
>main way to use magic is to be a nigger and steal it
What were they thinking?

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This game was the first game in the series I didn't love. It was pretty crap.
Shit characters, one of the less memorable osts, decent combat used poorly, simon says bullshit, world of hallways.

it'd be a waste not to give Cloud Lightning's outfits

Are any of the Gacha games worth checking out? Record Keeper? Opera Omnia?

This is perfect.

Based and Tidus pilled.

Record Keeper is but do not spend money on it. Very expensive.

How about Brave Exvius and Mobius?

I can't say as I haven't tried them

Type-0 is solid

>FF3 NES is still a hidden gem
CRYSTAL.
FUCKING.
TOWER.

Bravely default is just what 4 Heros of Light wanted to achieve but better. With proof of them putting bosses from 4 Heroes of Light inside the game.

youtube.com/watch?v=y3utwG0Xxyo

IX is fucking trash. Replace it with VIII and we have a perfect list.

Every mainline FF is worthwhile except 13 and 15. Tactics and Type 0 are great too. The 7 spin-offs are boring, but worth if you´re a fan of 7
Good taste

>one of the less memorable osts

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yup pretty much. 1 is also worth playing

Why is VII pushed as "the best" FF when its the most archaic 3d title in the series. I fell for the meme and tried to play it but dropped it after I got Cid. this game has no direction and is filled with unfun, unneeded, constant and poorly explained minigames. the poor translation doesn't help very much either as characters feel pretty stiff to me.

I played and finished IX and XII and could say I enjoyed and liked/loved them, but VII really fell flat on its face for me.

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>and 15
I only played the Steam demo, is it that bad? It looked comfy even though the magic system looked terrible.

>FF IX
YIKES

4 is one of the GOATs user. I played it recently and the story which is tied to game mechanics was incredible. Also it has a great soundtrack.
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It's the soundtrack that revealed the potential of Uematsu

I've never played any Final Fantasy game. How would I know which one is good and which one isn't? How about you go on about what makes these games good?

>Sincerely, user.

Type-0 is awesome

The MMOs are as deserving of respect and praise as any other mainline Final Fantasy game.

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It’s not user, but the Vivi story arc is one of the most interesting in the series.

>squenix at E3
>hear Throughly Blue blaring out from the speakers as a bucket head lilty strikes at the camera
>gameplay sequences
>Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles Remastered
>AVAILABLE NOW

imagine

t. tranny

6 is shit. What the fuck do you kids see in it

No, it’s the same shit. Literally everyone dies in separate events and comes back at some point.

ffxi sure i still play autistically to this day
ffxiv on the other hand...lol

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whoops meant for

I'm playing them in release order but with the best versions. The real problem of 3 is that 5 is better on every single point.
>No real story
>Good class system, but not complex enough.
>Because you can switch class at any time, you don't take any risk like you could in I
>Some bosses are gimmicky but not in a good way compared to IV because of the lack of complexity with classes.
I enjoyed it quite a lot at first, and the dungeon gauntlet at the end was fucking brutal which honestly was refreshing. But once you get to 4 which has better gimmicky bosses with tighter mechanics and its ATB system and then when you play 5 which has the same class system but tremendously better and twice as much content+ good ideas, there's no turning back.

>463058995
good for me, I can feel more special with a person less liking VII as its the best game ever made to me. If midgar didn't suck you in and clouds backstory couldn't make the game promising, your loss. Never felt a games ending more rewarding than VIIs ending did.

I haven’t played any of the other Final Fantasies...
But Crystal Chronicles is cute and fun! AND it’s getting a Remaster on Switch! It is my favourite video game!!!

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I'm near the end of FFV. And I don't feel like the story didn't take itself seriously. I loved Galuf for the entire game and there's pretty good banter between characters with Bartz being usually the butt of the joke.

The only thing that was a bit shitty was the massive asspull God this splinter hurts
But for the rest you're pretty much all along a sense of urgency, there are pretty good optional cutscenes like with Faris and Sylvia. It was the first FF to feel like a real adventure to me as 4 was a tragicomedy and 1-3 were about following a to-do list.

To be honest, I prefer 4 and 5 over 6 because 6 has great scenes but also terrible humour just after tragic events
>Wow this ghost train sequence was pretty cool
>Why are Sabin, Shadow making jokes over a waterfall next to Cyan after what happened?

I hate how fast the game switches between sad moments and terrible gag sequences. Gilgamesh >>>>> Ultros

A good rpg with a great story. Vaan is useless. Fran is fucking hot. The combat is weird but the job system and its job points are fun to grind.

Ranked in terms of my enjoyment, personal favorite in just mainline is probably FFV

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nice cherrypicking (and ban evading, Barry)

this is all you are doing in XV

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VII and IX's
Older brother always used to leave his ps1 running when he'd go off and do something else. He'd always leave the game on the vii or ix overworlds. So those 2 songs were on almost all the time during my childhood. Insanely nostalgic.

We should have got a blitzball spinoff instead of X-2

This guy gets it

PC version when? I'm the only one in my group of friends that has a switch and nobody of us owns a PS4.
I just wanna have a comfy adventure with my friends

>Low IQ plebs steal magic in drips and drabs and complain about "the system" keeping them down
>Distinguished gentlemen refine magic from their prizes wagered in the noble game of cards
The FF8 magic system was way too meta for retards to comprehend.

legendsoflocalization.com/squalls-whatever-line-in-japanese-final-fantasy-viii/

This except I’m really hoping 7 remake will be good.

Remove 4 and tactics, add 8 and 10.

>This except I’m really hoping 7 remake will be good.

7 Remake is episodic so I am worried.
Plus I have no idea if the combat is going to be good or more of XV's Hold O shit

I have never played FF tactics advanced, only FF tactics A2, redpill me about it and why everyone thinks it's better

ff4 and ff14 are the best final fantasy games square has to offer bar none. I say this cuase these are the only two ff games i ever played in my life so i have extreme bias towards the,

>9
no

>XV's Hold O shit

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It's not. Ffta2 plays best of all. Tactics Ogre has the best story of all. Both share best translation. FFT has has a feeling of being more impactful in it's actions, and a quite goid story. FFT has one shitty translation (ps1) and one shitty localization (psp).

Kill yourself.

Shitty bait.

Then why no one ever talks about A2 then?

FF6 sucks. It's the least popular FF game in Japan because it's such trash.

IV and its sequel are my favourite FF games followed behind by XII and V and then I dunno maybe like I and XI. Also special note to XII: Revenant Wings it's underrated and deserves to be loved.

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>boring cherrypicked webm of someone sucking on purpose

get better bait

Literally kill yourselves retarded faggots, 4 is raw sewage.

Have sex

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Pay taxes

Cope

Dilate

tranny phoneposter

Because everyone's first tactics game was FFT, and, having never opened a bool before, they thought that was the height of storytelling. A2, like A, does not have an intricate plot, merely well ridden characters and dialogue, which, in the mind of every 17 year old who considers themselves an intellectual for having played the smart FF, was akin to raping baby jesus

I've never played a Final Fantasy game

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and I've never seen Barbarella but I still fap to her

You forgot one user

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X is bad but has the best memes

Yep thats a "YIKES!" from me user.

I have your back on IX bro. Sakaguchi was right when he said it was the pinacle of what FF games should be. That said i think every single FF from the PS1 era is great and that includes VIII. People say VIII is broken but to actually break it one need to know what one´s doing. Namely you have to have played it before to know the ingredients of the Lionheart and how to exploit the level/ card system. (which i would be honest, i liked that. Triple triad is one of the most worth it mini games in any FF because it actually rewards you with usefull stuff) As for the story i think the story of FF VIII is pretty good too despite the "orphanage" thing. The narration is flawed though so many people still don´t get it and still believe Rinoa is Ultimecia and stuff like that...