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It's crazy how right Kenny is about everything, you'd be a fool not to follow him.

What was the point of this faggot? He never appeared again.

To show how bloodthirsty Kenny was

Kenny is usually right in his intentions, and he's not a bad guy, but he's an impulsive idiot. He never actually learns from his mistakes. And he absolutely becomes psychopathic by the end. His fight to the death with Jane was a literal representation of the differences between a psychopath and a sociopath, Jane being the latter. Jane's prediction wasn't wrong; he would have snapped sooner or later. All he had to go on was "it was an accident," because that's all Jane could get out before he jumped straight to kill mode, because all he heard was "I killed AJ." That's insane. So, no. You wouldn't be a fool not to follow him. You would be a fool to CONTINUE to follow him after that point.

Inb4 >Janefag

I do believe that killing Kenny is the natural and most organic path, but so is choosing not to forgive Jane afterwards. They go hand-in-hand.

Is there actually a difference between socio- and psychopath? From what I've generally heard, the distinction has little meaning

Psychopathy is like a more severe sociopathy. Both concern roughly the following:
>Lack of guilt/remorse
>Lack of empathy
>Lack of deep emotional attachments
>Narcissism
>Superficial charm
>Dishonesty
>Manipulativeness
>Reckless risk-taking
Kenny has issues, but I'd say they're pretty human ones. He genuinely cares about the people around him. Jane is textbook snake.

Yes, there is. One key difference: a psychopath is someone who can show empathy, whereas a sociopath cannot, only mimic it. Jane is a sociopath because she doesn't actually care about Clementine for Clementine. She cares about keeping Clem to herself like a posession, nothing more. There is no love there. It was the same for her sister, which is how she was able to leave her to die in the first place.

Kenny is the polar opposite. He let his emotions control him through every decision he ever made, to the point where he did things so irrationally that he couldn't think or see straight. The term "I just saw red" is akin to psychopathic tendency, and that's what Kenny basically said happened when he went after Jane. Put simply: he lost it. Jane wanted to prove to Clem that she was right all along, even if it meant putting an infant baby in danger to do it. She then gets Clementine to kill who could very well be the only personal connection to her past left alive, all the while telling her "it's okay, because you have me now." Sociopaths tend to not even be aware of their lack of emotion or empathy, and therefore remain in denial over their lack of humanity. Jane, I believe, was one of those sociopaths. She truly believed she cared about Clementine, but I bet if we were able to analyze her thought process over every decision she made, we would find that it was all selfish motivation.

Do you ever get revenge on that ruskie? I never played S3-4

That's not entirely true. Only about three or four of those meet the requirements for a psychopath. A psychopath doesn't have a lack of guilt/remorse or deep emotional connections. They can't establish a difference between logic and emotion, so they act and react sporadically, and passionately. The risk-taking, manipulative, and superficial charm, however, hit the mark pretty well. And Kenny is all of those things (save for charming). A sociopath is the first three, as well as narcissistic, dishonest, etc.

Kenny was objectively a selfish piece of shit that fucked everything up for everyone

No. Arvo, Mike, and (if she survived) Bonnie all fuck off forever.

Kenny was the same as Good Lee, only with half a brain less to work with. That's really all there is to it when trying to understand his character. He cared more for his family than anything or anyone, sure. But you can hardly blame someone for that, unless you're -- a sociopath.

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Faggot.

I didn't even take your shit. Wish Kenny beat you to death, and Mark (I think that's his name) and Bonnie.

Lee is smarter than Kenny, that's all. He has inhibitions; Kenny just acts, Lee thinks before he does it.

They're both are after the same thing though; protecting their loved ones.

Right. That's exactly what I'm getting at, and basically what I said. Kenny wasn't a "selfish piece of shit." He was just an impulsive idiot who let his emotions control him.

>Jane

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On board with the gist of this meme, but you lost me at "He's not trying to kill you." Kenny was absolutely trying to kill Jane. How in the hell could "I'LL KILL YOU!" followed by ferociously aggressive physical force be interpreted any other way?

on point

maybe pretending to murder a baby so many people died for isn't the best idea for a man who's already lost so much

I completely forgot about this character, but all it took was this one picture of his stupid face to uncover the rage I had suppressed against him. What a stupid piece of shit.

Do you realize how incoherent you sound? You admit that Kenny is right, the game even proves that Kenny was right all along, yet you still call him an "impulsive idiot" and think that killing him was the right thing to do. What the fuck is wrong with you?

You know what, this actually makes sense. Ya did good.

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Just because someone is right in their intentions, does not make them right in their actions. Kenny lacked the mental fortitude to transition those intentions into the right actions, and over the course of the story we see him go through loss time and time again. As a result, he became unhinged. I killed Kenny with the same sentimentality towards putting down a beloved dog that went rabid. Because that's what Kenny was, in the end. And guess what? He fucking THANKS you for it. He even tells you that you made the right choice. In case my earlier post wasn't clear enough for you, I hope this helps you understand what I meant.

>this meme
What meme?

The...meme you posted, user.

t. reddit armchair buzzword spammer

Regardless of the circumstances I find it hard to put kenny in the wrong of wanting to dispose of someone who was openly mocking his dead family and pretends to have left an infant to die to 'prove a point', especially after he wasn't allowed to dispose of a shitty russian who promptly took the clemency shown by the rest of the group and shot a 10 or 11 year old.

Also, I never said that I believed killing Kenny was "the right thing to do." I said that doing so, followed by condemning Jane, is the most natural and organic path to take. For story purposes. Realistically, however, I would argue that it makes sense for the rabid dog example I gave. Not morally right, but necessary for survival. Thus, a heartfelt action to protect yourself and others. I would also point out that, Clementine and Kenny both have no idea what the hell actually happened to AJ prior to finding him in the car. For all intents and purposes, Clementine was protecting Jane because she believed it was just an accident, as that is what Jane told them. Thus, after killing Kenny and upon discovering that Jane is a lying sociopath, Clementine chooses not to forgive Jane for forcing her hand to kill her friend.

So they ever explain why there was russians who can't speak english living in America in the zombie apocalipse?

Holy shit season 2 was 2014? Jesus Christ

Always wondered this myself, actually. It was pretty fucking stupid and came out of nowhere.

And season 1 was 2012. Time flies user.

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Obviously it doesn't justify it, but it should be noted that Clementine shot Arvo's sister, who he was attempting to save (even though she was gone already, but he couldn't acknowledge that)

god, I remember those threads, good times.

that's not a "meme" that's a screencap. And I didn't post it.

>make the right choices
>nothing changes

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The real choices were the journey you made along the way

user wasn't talking about Arvo.

was talking about Jane. She mocks him and his dead family when they're in the truck on their way to Wellington.

Weird. I could have sworn I've seen that exact screencap used as a meme in TWD threads before. Oh well, my bad.

>this tourist doesn't know what a meme is

>this normie doesn't know what a joke is

Some areas that are mostly populated with one ethnicity that isn't native to the country tend to be worse at the national language. It's not that weird.

>And he absolutely becomes psychopathic
Literally every action he takes is to the benefit of his family and the group, by intention and consequence. The only time he snaps is after terrible shit happens and then he apolgises and gets over it. Kenny was the obvious choice and it wasn't really a test of fate to keep believing in him.

Nah.

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I just fucking hate how they were all like ooof ouch Kenny why would you kill Carver after he knocked your fucking eye out and they never get over it but they literally see Jane shoot a man in the dick and leave him for the walkers who posed no threat to her and they coudn't give less of a fuck

I disagree. Emotions are inherently irrational so that's a non-starter. But, extreme fits are emotion are necessarily indicative of psyopathy. We don't consider mums, who "see red" pulling trucks off their babies, psychopaths. Kenny's aggression came from a morally sound place.

Telltale! Railroading your continuity from 2010-2018!

>hurr I just used your adoptive baby as zombie bait so I could survive (but not really)
"ooooh clem, look how crazy Kenny is!"
>about to take a knife to the throat
>doesn't ever go "lol jk the baby is alive pls don't kill me"
Jane was the sociopathic one. She couldn't cope with the loss of her sister and was trying to manipulate Clem to go with her because she couldn't handle her being attached to Kenny.

>stay with Kenny
>he DIES
Staying at Wellington is the only route that leaves Kenny as a determinate

Yeah, that thing I've been saying this entire time. Did you even read what you replied to?

Fuck this Russkie bastard

>a psychopath is someone who can show empathy
You're already wrong.
Psychopaths are aware of what they do, and can fake being normal.
Sociopaths don't understand what they're doing wrong, and can never learn.
Both should be eliminated.

stick with Kenny, he is my family

>all this autism to protect a fucking newborn
dont even pretend a baby is anything but a liability in this scenario
its literally a fucking mcnugget waiting for a zombie to chomp on it

Sociopath and Janefag

No fucking way is Kenny a psychopath. Stop using buzzwords, retard

>Stop using buzzwords
>Retard

no, even jane wanted to protect that glorified mcnugget
nobody in the game was smart enough to get rid of it before it became a problem.

No she didn't. She practically beats Clementine over the head with how stupid it is to keep the baby. If you mention to her that you and the baby are getting close, she says "Yeah, that's what worries me." She wouldn't straight up murder the baby, but she secretly wanted it dead. It was obvious.

You have it EXACTLY backwards.

Kenny's still super unstable, but he ends up looking better by comparison because nearly everyone else is either worthless or a lunatic.

Sarah and Nick were honestly the only two members of the new group I really ended up liking because they're genuine with Clem and trying to actually reach out to her despite their emotional flaws.

Oh and Pete, but he lasted like half an hour....

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Kenny treats Clem like shit like half the time and is much more concerned with his own problems over hers. I kinda hate how bad they made him in season 2, where he made a ton of mistakes and rarely ever manages to de-escalate a situation. The game clearly tries to make it clear that Kenny is basically the reason a lot of things end up going so badly.

He lost his wife, he lost his son, he lost his wife a second time, he lost everything he ever cared for and AJ was obviously one of the last things that kept him sane.

Indeed. It was the straw that broke the camel's back.