Based on Nintendo's statements, the upcoming DLC will be the following:
>third party
>little association with Nintendo
>represents an aspect of gaming as a whole
>appeals to non-Nintendo demographics
>inherently unique as a fighter
If you're favorite character doesn't meet this criteria, better luck next time!
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>Previous thread got deleted
Jannies are going crazy
Reminder that Banjo will never be in
doo doo DOO doo
Nintedo really has lost their soul, that fucking sucks.
So what you're saying is Banjo has a shot. Awesome!
You don't have anything to connect these two statements. Joker could simply be emblematic of the DLC by being a guest character.
This is "Sakurai said he referenced the ballot this time so all the base game characters are fan favorites" all over again.
I don't know why I'm telling you this, it'll be funnier to let you carry on and come crashing down at E3.
>third party
Check
>little association with Nintendo
Only appeared on Nintendo consoles recently, and only then they were fan games
>represents an aspect of gaming as a whole
She's the only character who represents the doujinshi industry of gaming as a whole
>appeals to non-Nintendo demographics
She can bring tons of 2hufag autism and otaku appeal
>inherently unique as a fighter
She's a shrine maiden who fights with cards and barriers. No other character is like her
Reimu has a chance, guys!
>If you're favorite character doesn't meet this criteria, better luck next time!
Erdrick is leaked by Tansut and he comes from a NES game, you fucking liar.
Except this time it's actually a bad thing. Everytime people think Nintendo is going to do something good it turns out shit. This is why characters like erdrick and Steve are making people angry. Because it's what Nintendo would do.
Tansut is also a known liar.
>Poster count doesn't go up
Hello coping OP
Literally irrelevant
he's in
I'm not the op but whatever you want to believe schizo
>last thread gets deleted because Banjoids were getting torn a new asshole
Refusal to cope
or inability to cope?
Either way it sure is comical!
I'd sooner believe random, one-off posts on Yea Forums than any named leakers.
If you look at the full IGN article, Reggie talks about how Sakurai isn't just about Nintendo games, but gaming as a whole, and that is the driving force behind the DLC selections.
Literal who
>poster count doesn't go up
Spotted the Banjo loonie
>New demographics
He's out.
No since he is not relevant, not cared about by its own company and only popular in Smash speculation.
You can summarize it all as: the character needs to be marketable.
Smash 4:
-Lucas, Roy and Mewtwo: requested veterans, advertisement for the Smash Bros. franchise
-Ryu: grabs the Street Fighter fans, a major franchise with a recent release
-Cloud: grabs the Final Fantasy fans, a major franchise with many releases each year
-Bayonetta: grabs the Bayonetta fans, and serves as an advertisement for Bayonetta 2 on Switch, which is basically a Nintendo game at this point.
-Corrin: Pure shill pick for Fire Emblem. Marketing at its finest.
Ultimate:
-Piranha Plant: A character from the most popular video-game franchise in the world. Reccurent and chosen because everyone knows it according to Sakurai tweaktown.com
-Joker: grabs the Persona fans who are mainly on Playstation and a major new game that is the most succesful of the franchise
If he is not marketable, your character isn't in.
>third party
>little association with Nintendo
>represents an aspect of gaming as a whole
>appeals to non-Nintendo demographics
>inherently unique as a fighter
He's so fucking in
t. grinchnigger
Tick tock.
That's DLC #3.
(#2 is Erdrick and it's time to accept it.)
>"I consulted the ballot while selecting characters this time" - Sakurai on Smash Ultimate's base game
These statements mean less than nothing.
Hey I think Markiplier just uploaded a new minecraft letsplay, you better go to it to get that first comment for those upvotes.
So you're saying she's in?
Not only doujinshi but shmups as a whole.
Unless Star Fox counts.
D-did you hear they're playing BANJO KAZOOIE on GAME GRUMPS?? I JUST LOVE THIS GAME! i'm not like the other kids my age, I hate Minecraft and Fortnite! I was born in the wrong generation, I wish I had grown up with an N64!
I just can say that if Steve is in, I won't be mad, I will just lose al hope in next DLC characters and Smash games
Banjo is dead.
Banjwho?
Stewhat?
But that was sakurai talking he didn't write the ign article
>Banjo's using the golden gun
based.
A shot in the head? yes
Based
Cringe
I will die a thousand deaths before I even think about acknowledging insiders.
so there's a chance then?
>More middlemen between you and Sakurai's statement makes it more reliable
Guys, I don't think you realize just how much of a shot Sans actually has at this point.
Japan loves Undertale and it is held in high esteem over there and they've also voted him dangerously high on the poll.
This article only strengthens his position as a third-party character candidate.
I don't think I can actually take the shock if he somehow gets in.
FORTNITES VERY OWN JOHN WICK IS IN
Stop sucking his cock.
Why, exactly? Nintendo's the one choosing characters, and it's not like Steve making it somehow precludes other more preferred characters from making it.
"i consulted the ballot" =/= "every single character came from the ballot"
WHO TOUCHED MY INVITATION
I got the leaked DLC roster right here for ya fella's
You can exclaim cringe all you want. It won't change the fact that insiders won and 80 percent of this board were blown the fuck out.
Reminder that Banjo is in, just look at the polls, he's GUARANTEED.
IT'S HIS TURN
>I reject facts because they don't fit my narrative
Spoken like a true libtard
>>third party
>>little association with Nintendo
>>represents an aspect of gaming as a whole
>>appeals to non-Nintendo demographics
>>inherently unique as a fighter
he's in
Rent free.
>inherently unique
>every move besides the gun and the grappling hook are taken from other characters, down the the animation
Reminder that Nintendo confirmed all of this 3rd party criteria since Alucard & Heiechi were cut for one of these reasons
> 1. Characters from a series that has no future are rarely chosen
> 2. Fighters that switch models are a different matter."
> 3. Even if a character is unique, if they overlap with other characters and aren't unique as a fighter, they are rejected.
> 4. In order to fit the character into the world of Smash, I need them to allow me some artistic license.
> 5. It might be something like a courtesy to include a character whose franchise has the history of being on a Nintendo platform.
> 6. The character must display personality in their game
> 7. It’s important to have something that ONLY the character can do
> 8. Potential development issues, and game balance is also taken into some consideration (Heihachi cut from Sm4sh)
> 9. There are some characters that can’t join the battle, even if they meet the qualifications
> 10. Is the character the representative character for their respective Source Material
> 11. The character must have something inherently unique about them
If any DQ rep makes it, it will be the Luminary, especially since DQ11 is coming to Switch this year.
and
I'm with HER!
>third party
check.
>little association with Nintendo
check. it has a few games on nintendo, but i've actually seen people assume that sony owns digimon.
>represents an aspect of gaming as a whole
virtual pets, simulation games
>appeals to non-Nintendo demographics
check. bingtendies didn't grow up playing digimon world 1.
>inherently unique as a fighter
just bring in an evolution mechanic similar to rumble arena and he's good to go.
Based and Unashamedpilled
What other character in the roster is a thief that fights with a dagger, gun and a stand? Joker is probably the most unique fighter in the current roster.
>valve apparently (yes i know its fucking VNN who said this, tyler is a shit) was planning on releasing a switch exclusive game
hes... fucking in bros... heavy is in
Because now nintendo is not aiming for me as a consumer, his audience aims to others that doesn't match my likes.
So as a consumer, I just don't buy things I don't like, not like I'm offended or something.
Counterpoint.
THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING BANJOBROS ALL MY FURRY FANFICS FOR NOTHING NOOOOOOO
>Erdrickfags forced to fight Theoryfags
OH BABY
Welp this rules out every western character
"We want to branch out to other demographics using Smash DLC" =/= "Every single character will have nothing to do with Nintendo and we will ignore requests from one of the biggest install bases in company history"
"Joker is emblematic of the other 4 DLC characters" =/= "Joker is emblematic of the other 4 DLC characters for this very specific reason from an entirely different, unrelated article"
Like every batch of Smash newcomers ever it will appeal to a wide range of people, some of the DLC will be branching out to new demographics, some will be taking advantage of the already huge playerbase and their interests
Joker is emblematic of the other 4, but we don't know what that means, probably that they're all guest characters. But to claim we specifically know how is outright dishonesty.
Say what you want. But stevechad is the only good that came up from Ultimate
>s-stop choosing the winning side!
based
cringe
>rulefags
seething
Aside from Sora & Reimu who even fits all of this criteria that isn’t already added?
These rules makes perfect sense when you consider that every single google leak character fits every criteria.
he's in
100% respect that, just that considering that Ultimate is the same game that had old characters like Ridley, Simon, and the like make it in, I don't think future Smash games - if not this specific DLC pack - are going to necessarily stop aiming at whatever your preferences are.
Some guy named noatesty on reddit leaked it first. The army wojak poster probably just copied the info.
It will be frisk who will introduce the series though
Still a random asshole and not a braggart insider
Banjo will always be more loved and popular than your games that dont even sell in the usa. You wish you had even half of Banjo's fame
Dont bother replying with your nonsense. I'll return to Smashboards where people make more sense than retards on Yea Forums
>Google leak
Back to PapaBanjos discord Banjoke
Heck, most leaks that have Steve also have Erdrick, and they couldn't have more different audiences if they tried.
>Banjo
>Artorias
No.
Believe
Oh.
Though has a point.
Seething grinchie
Feel free to continue to deny the most credible leak.
GOOOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING, arschlöcher! Just giving your daily reminder we're another day closer to Richtofen (yes, THE Richtofen from the incredibly popular FPS series Call of Duty) getting confirmed in the biggest gaming extravaganza that is Nintendo's Super Smash Bros Ultimate! Make sure you grab your Ray Guns and guzzle down your Juggernog for the upcoming Fighter Pass when our hero Richtofen and the Primis crew make their mark on destiny!
>B-but the leaks said Doomguy would be the FPS rep
Oh no no, Anonmyous. You really think that the talented Masahiro Sakurai would deny himself the opportunity to work with a cultural landmark series like Call of Duty? Unlike Doom, CoD is beloved all across the world, it is the single most popular FPS of all time as well as most influential. No one outside of the US cares about boomer shooters.
>b-but Banjo and Scorpion would be better Western reps, e-everyone knows who they are
I barely know who these people are, unlike Richtofen (or any CoD character desu) which has people from toddlers to old men like me quickly recognizing it! The franchise is a staple of the American entertainment history! Now I don't know about vergebens or whoever this MasterOfHyrule is but I can guarantee to you that you just can't trust everything you read on the internet! As far as I know it could be a scheme by Dr. Monty or the Shadowman to get you all stuck in a loop.
See you fellow CoDchads this E3
Reach for Juggernog tonight!
I'm hoping for team Smoking Sick Style myself.
Sora
Sans
Steve
It will also guarantee Dante is the last pick.
hes in
I'm thinking Undertale is too new of a franchise to get Smash recognition. If Nintendo sees Undertale's popularity, they'll probably look into it's biggest inspiration - Touhou.
*ahem*
FUCK STEVE
FUCK BANJO
FUCK RELEVANCY
FUCK POPULARITY
FUCK CONSOLEFAGS
and most importantly
FUCKED LISA
HE'S IN
>the most credible leak
twitter.com
>the winning side
This is the problem with rosterfaggotry. It's all about "winning" and "being on the right side of history"
People who want Reimu in Smash look like this
>third party
>little association with Nintendo
>represents an aspect of gaming as a whole
>appeals to non-Nintendo demographics
>inherently unique as a fighter
Let's see
>Steve
>Already has Multiple versions of Mincecraft on Nintendo consoles
>Sandbox represented by Animal Crossing
>Banjo
>Most popular games on Nintendo consoles
>Platformers represented by Mario
>First Person Shooter
>Highly iconic
>the one well known Microsoft IP to yet make their debut on an Nintendo platform
He's. fucking. In.
>sans
Don't make me laugh. It's gonna be Frisk.
>Sora
Gaydrick
>Refusteve
Chadjo
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>believing someone who don't even work for google anymore
Why are you so gullible?
what is this list and where's Fire Emblem
why do banjokes have it out for erdrick so much
you know, when he's revealed, banjo won't be deconfirmed right?
banjo will be deconfirmed when the 5th DLC is revealed and microsoft doesnt get a rep
The rosterfags won with ridley and k.rool and they got greedy with banjo. Its why the grinch was such a huge hit to them. They need to keep losing.
>incelroar
Post discarded.
Can confirm, overheard a pod of these planets discussing Reimu in smash.
Nintendo’s official list of best Nintendo games
COPE
>replies to my post
>gets hidden because I have c*pe wordfiltered
try harder lol
Banjo didn't have a main game in the past ten years.
Meanwhile, Dragon Quest recently released a eleventh episode.
And in the case of Erdrick (SPOILERS ALERT, THIS IS ABOUT THE ENDING OF DQXI):
The game ends with Luminary being named the first Erdrick, implying it's the first DQ chronologically. It ends with a mother waking up her son, who definitely looks like a younger Erdrick from DQIII.
Please don't pretend Banjo can reach DQ's popularity.
Based
Got a source?
They're based as fuck if it's legit for putting EBA at 13th
NO! IT CANT BE! THE GRINCH WON BECAUSE SHE HAD MORE VOTES!
Erdrick is THE ultimate symbol of soulless shillpicks that nobody ever wanted. Even Steve at least had a few autists who genuinely wanted him back during the Smash 4 era.
It's basically pic related, but swap out Incelroar for Erdrick and K.Rool for Banjo and Sora.
>Inshiteroar
>grinchfag
Post discarded even further.
People who want Reimu in Smash look like this
>already fucking mad
ahahah GOD i cant wait until E3 and he's revealed
theres like 6 fe games on there idiot
>Inceniroar was a great addition!
>Why?
>b-b-b-because some people I argued with online don't like him
>Is that really a good reason?
>FUCK YOU GRINCHFAG *posts the same image for the 5,000th time*
Cute Yuugi
imagine being so upset that you had to make that image lmao
>still refusing to cope
You okay Banjie?
So...
2B, Steve, Frisk and The Chosen Undeaad?
All 3rd parties, huge trends from the last few years, Sakurai cares about the games and they few appearences if any in Nintendo systems.
>Inceniroar was a great addition!
>Why?
Because he has a great moveset and fun animations. The developers did a great job at implementing Incineroar in the game.
It's true, there's no genuine love for Inceniroar despite gamefreak spending over a billion dollars in ad revenue trying to push him. It's why the only fan art of him after smash is the "le epic salt" ones.
>believing a fake leak that would take less effort than creating a shitty render/blurry pic leak.
Lrn2Cope
based
Amazingly, even now, Incineroar is still universally the most hated pokemon in existence.
>Because he has a great moveset and fun animations.
This is vague as fuck.
Reminder that Sakurai chose Incineroar for his own merits alone
Game Freak hardly shills Incineroar, Sakurai just likes him
>worst-recovery-in-the-game's your path
thanks for the filter suggestion
>rosterfags are STILL mad 7 months later
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH
If they do Mortal Kombat, I hope it's some kind of combined character since they probably wouldn't give us Sub-Zero with Scorpion as an Echo.
Make some original character that looks the same, but has attacks from each of the recolor ninjas. His alt colors could be each of them.
Yeah he's a great addition. Did anyone ask for it? No. Should've been Rhythm Wrestler if they wanted that type of character.
Inshiteroar is just TPCi shilling their gay shit.
Yeah, we can all just effortlessly toss fifty thousand dollars per day on google ads just to fool five thousand geeks on the internet.
Oh wait. We can't.
Not like they can stop him
One small hiccup with this though. Dragon Quest is pretty heavily associated with Nintendo.
But yes, anyone that doesn't think he's just as important to gaming as Mario, and obviously should be in the game, is a salty grinchfag.
Despite people not liking him even before Ultimate was announced.
>Inceniroar was a great addition!
>Why?
well, let's see: he's fun to play as, has a unique moveset, has great animations with a lot of personality, and is well-liked by people who actually play the game instead of just obsessing over the roster. why ISN'T he a great addition?
never cared about touhou but wouldn't even be mad
Looks like someone is angry no one likes their furfilth. Laugh more, faggot.
Why do you lie about why you like Incelroar?
How's that vague as fuck? He's fun to play in the game. That makes him a good addition.
Nah its a bad addition because he sucks. End of story.
E3 will be a shitstorm, EVO will be a shitstorm, and then 2 more after that.
Joker was good but I hope out of the final 4, at least one is one of my wanted characters.
That's all I want, user.
>The EXACT same vague argument
literally NPCs.
>Inshiteroar is just TPCi shilling their gay shit.
But he wasn't even pushed by TPCi. It was entirely Sakurai's decision.
>Should've been Rhythm Wrestler if they wanted that type of character.
As a RHfag, I would've been fucking furious if they wasted the idea of a Rhythm Heaven character on a generic wrestler moveset instead of having to do literally anything with the series
If you're seriously so asshurt about Incineroar's inclusion, you should put his moveset on Star Man or The Amazon from NES Pro Wrestling
Banjokes and steve posters prepare to get BTFO
I think you're just autistic, dude.
i like incineroar because i'm a pokemon fan (unlike the smashfag secondaries who keep bitching about him) and he's my favorite starter ever.
the real question is why you're moving the goalposts away from why he's a good addition to smash.
Well Sakurai has shit taste then.
Is this autism?
>"DUUHHHHH FUN FUN FUN"
>That's not a very good argument
>"duuuuh autist grinch *shits underwear* pfffffff"
>i like incineroar because i'm a pokemon fan
Why do you lie? Genuine pokemon fans hate Incineroar, and Incineroar almost always tops all the "Your least favorite pokemon" and "Which pokemon do you hate the most" polls.
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If my performance didn't already turn you gay, that probably means you're just a cuck in denial that cannot accept the superiority of the male body over the female one.
>B-but Banjo is more popular than Ricardo Milos!
"No!"
If you type Ricardo Milos on Google, you'll see over 8 million results, opposed to Banjo's simple 2 millions.
Sakurai wants new characters that would definitely bring in new demographics. Ricardo Milo perfectly fits this criteria as many introverted young gay people would love a character close to them sexually.
>b-but he is not a video-game character!
That rule has already been broken with ROB in Brawl, who is only a toy.
Ricardo has the potential to bring in an amazing moveset with his dance moves and his amazing flexes.
See you fellow Richardos this E3
>i like incineroar because i'm a pokemon fan
99% of other Pokemon fans hate him though. It's the equivalent of adding Fi from Skyward Sword into Smash.
Cringe
Aniki's our gachi rep
>even the response is exactly the same
HOLY SHIT INCENIROAR FANS CAN'T THINK FOR THEMSELVES HAHAHAA
considering Sakurai has said that he prioritizes fun playstyles in the game, fun is a legit argument desu
Autism incarnate.
She was my starter too. They need to pick something that isn't a starter next time. Or maybe skip on adding more Pokemon. There's already an assload of them.
how is it vague?
>he's fun to play as
subjective, but not vague. incineroar is specifically fun to play as because of his moveset and personality.
>has a unique moveset
objectively true, a wrestling character is a unique archetype that hadn't been filled yet.
>has great animations with a lot of personality
objectively true, self-evident just from seeing him in action.
>is well-liked by people who actually play the game instead of just obsessing over the roster
objectively true, backed up by polling data.
>sucks
>best pokemon in VGC for years
OH NO NO NO
Fact: All Incineroarfags everywhere are cancer incarnate.
so why did Sakurai give him a garbage recovery, which is inherently anti-fun?
2B's out and I doubt they would add any indies
CU and Steve actually seem likely though, even if I would prefer other MS characters
It still doesn't say anything because it's so vague. That argument can be used for literally any character. It's like arguing that a character is good because you can select them on the css.
>Genuine pokemon fans hate Incineroar
>99% of other Pokemon fans hate him though
lmao retards
>me
>giving a shit about vgc
Nah he just sucks in general.
You just proved your point by the amount if replies you got.
> Microsoft is a new audience
> Banjo/Steve could represent Microsoft
> v/ is literary obsessed with both
> Minecraft, Rare Replay. Arguments can be made for both.
> first one to reply will say either directly or indirectly why Banjo is irrelevant anyway.
> like clockwork
when
why do *you* lie?
It's the truth.
AGUMON
You need to get good at recovering.
>third party
They just said that the DLC members will be newcomers
>little association with Nintendo
The SMT series has been on Nintendo consoles since like 1987
>represents an aspect of gaming as a whole
Pretty sure they have plenty of JRPG protags already
>appeals to non-Nintendo demographics
Since '87, I'll say it again
>inherently unique as a fighter
Sure, this is the one I'll agree with you on
>I doubt they would add any indies
Why?
I'm guessing you haven't touched Incineroar since you unlocked him
Do you get your facts from /vp/ or something? lol
just because you need insta-win, easy-mode characters to have fun doesn't mean everyone does.
virtually everything said about roster selection in smash should be taken with a grain of salt
moreover half the things companies say to shareholders should be taken with a grain of salt, you're supposed to spin whatever you're doing in the best way possible
Look I'm not that guy and I like Inceneroar but his recovery does clearly suck
I'd rather trust official word from Nintendo than a fucking leaker.
>That argument can be used for literally any character.
This is true. This is why most people don't have a problem with the roster and only autists get booty bothered about 'undeserving' characters getting in.
Rosterfags are all going to look back on this claiming they knew Banjo was a shoe-in the entire time, citing the following points despite the fact that said points currently make them seethe uncontrollably:
>The only character with massive fan demand remaining (will be pushed heavily as "the last ballot character" by people who seethe at fan requests until another one happens, then they will be "the last ballot character")
>One of two major Nintendo releases not yet included in Smash Brothers
>The personal backing of the head of Xbox, who Nintendo would be negotiating with for a character
>Nintendo and Microsoft's relationship is in a place that would allow for such a deal, Microsoft controlled games and series already making their way to Switch, Switch and Xbox are cross promoting, and the relationship is rumored to go even farther
>Steve's developers would have treaded all over NDA by now and even soft deconfirmed him at Minecon, Chief was outright deconfirmed, meanwhile Rare's public channels and Rare employee's have kept their cards close to their chests and not said anything
>Banjo-Kazooie has no real competition from within Rare, their most requested character by a longshot
>Had a sudden resurgence of merchandise just like Crash and Spyro did just ahead of their revivals
Valve would probably say no unless they could somehow attach it to Steam
It's not great but it's not horrible anymore ever since he got buffed
>not dying the moment you get knocked off the stage is "insta-win"
>subjective, but not vague. incineroar is specifically fun to play as because of his moveset and personality.
>It's fun because it's fun and fun. What's wrong with this argument?
>objectively true, a wrestling character is a unique archetype that hadn't been filled yet.
Unique moveset is the bare minimum and the ultimate red flag for a shit character that people can't otherwise justify. Like other anons said the human wrestler archetype could be used for other series characters and wasting a fucking Pokemon slot on it makes no sense considering how many unique creatures there are from that series, especially ones that people actually like.
>objectively true, self-evident just from seeing him in action.
What makes his animations any better than anyone else? There's also no personality besides "smiling while doing thing"
>objectively true, backed up by polling data.
I can't even remember the last time I've gone against an Inceniroar online
>implying that poll means anything
If Sakurai cut Mario and replaced him with a texturless polygon the results would be the exact same. Name ONE thing Sakurai has ever done that hasn't had tons of apologists.
I wanted my Birbwife instead of Incineroar t b h
but I can't deny he's a fun addition
see
Most of the time it's just people coming up with very specific rules to argue against specific people.
Banjo will not be in, retard.
>Rosterfags are all going to look back on this claiming they knew Banjo was a shoe-in the entire time
>Rosterfags are all going to look back on this claiming they knew the rosterfag circlejerk character was a shoe-in the entire time
No shit, user?
????????
how would Alucard be any different than simon retard they went with him instead because they wanted to use the first character which was simon which is why they used his classic design instead of the young red haired one like how they used megaman instead of x but they acknowledged x was more popular
just doesn't seem like it would have as much draw as third parties or first parties honestly, and Shovel Knight is like the leading figurehead for indies currently and he got AT'd, while anyone else is either too recent or doesn't have as much pull
IT'S FRISK & CHARA YOU FUCKING MORON
>Unique moveset is the bare minimum
Unique movesets are mandatory and the most important aspect of the game that Sakurai constantly brings up.
So we've proven that characters can easily be both unique and actually be liked. So why add shit like Inceniroar? His only value now is for people who spend 8 hours a day posting the same images they got from reddit saying "coooope crinch" as if Sakurai is going to personally thank them for all their work.
Remember, folks. There are no rules. Anyone could get in if nintendo felt like putting them in. Your favorite has just as much of a shot as anyone else's favorite. Fuck these fake "rules," and FUCK relevancy arguments.
based
Delusional.
Exactly, that's why using it for a defense for a character is fucking stupid.
based
not true just alot of the ones on nintendo didn't leave japan
Just remember the salty taste of my words on your lips when you're reciting that exact argument to characterfags you don't like post-Banjo's inclusion.
>So why add shit like Inceniroar?
Because he would have added a staple fighting game archetype that would have worked great in Smash Bros? Sakurai's already gone over why he picked Incineroar.
Why do you smashfags keep making these threads. You always discuss of the exact same things, always bring the same arguments and always end up just flinging shit at each other because it's easier than thinking for a bit or than accepting that your viewpoint is wrong. I really don't see the point of these.
dis
shut the fuck up papa geno's google leak will be real just you see!
based kirbybro
and uberpilled
What I wanna know is why people like you enter these threads and ask why people make these threads. Just hide Smash threads, faggot
>Because he would have added a staple fighting game archetype that would have worked great in Smash Bros?
Why waste the Pokemon slot on it when it could easily be done by other characters? You can't look at even exclusively Gen 7 pokemon and think "this human like character is the most interesting!" especially since humans are 99% of video game characters.
Based Waddlechad
>Talking about the gameplay aspect of the game, the most important aspect of Smash, is a bad defense for a character
what
Where are my Geniebros at?
youtube.com
youtube.com
>ridley
>Old
??????????????????
okay retard
>Get a chance to include both a new Pokemon and a wrestler
it kills two birds with one stone
and Nintendo really doesn't have that many prominent wrestlers
IT'S THE MOTHERFUCKING LUMINARY BABY
>all s names except dante
this triggered me
Imagine your friend wants to take you to this restaurant that fucking sucks. His argument for taking you there is "you can get soda to drink" as if that was a feature instead of something that's a given and the bare minimum.
That's the same as thinking that a character was a good addition because they're not a clone.
i hope sakurai doesn't make a 2nd wave of DLC because character possibilities are going to be too limited due to the spirits de-confirming them.
honestly she's probably the most likely out of any character in this thread. she's already in soul calibur and she's being put in ffxiv for christ's sake. her being a massively popular character from a recent game combined with yoko taro's desire to shove her into every crossover he can makes her a shoe in for dlc.
>food analogy
try again
>Faggots still arguing if Incineroar deserves to be in Smash
>Sakurai literally choosed him over any Gen 7 Pokemon
>One of the most played newcomers in Ultimate both in tournament and casual plays.
He's here now, stop sperging about it and let's talk about real things, for exemple, when will the Monster Hunter rep be announced.
Why do you retards have to turn this into a shit flinging contest? I literally couldn't care less about who makes it in or not, as long as they are well designed and fun to play with. I'm just telling you that he won't be in because of all of the reasons you faggots refuse to see.
who gives a damn if a still image is in the game? just make the character
>make a Pro Wrestling character (this doesn't break any "rules" since we get retro picks all the time
and
>Pick a cool monster creature to make an interesting moveset from that couldn't be done by human characters
sounds better to me
>wahhhh stop telling me the truth wahhhh im really fucking delusional
>wahhh stupid meanies im going back to my circlejerk hugbox
bye faggot never post here again
never. i can already see sakurai saying "the monsters are more iconic than the player character."
>doomguy
When will this meme end?
Hey, people buy that shit argument for Corrin.
rathalos being in smash has made me lost hype for potential monster hunter content in smash because a series not represented in any way all the sudden being in smash is what will get me hyped (persona for example)
>I literally couldn't care less about who makes it in or not
>He says, in an obvious rosterfag thread
lol
You couldn't be more transparent.
Okay.
>This bank is amazing because you can deposit money into it!
>This door is great because you can close AND open it!
>This car is great because you can use it to drive from one place to another
Already deconfirmed
mutyun.com
>It's regrettable that NieR wasn't called to Smash. But choosing is up to Sakurai-kun isn't it?
This was in December, after Joke got revealed
>Unique moveset is the bare minimum
evidently it isn't, considering how many anime swordsmen are already in the game and rosterfags keep begging for more of them (issac, erdrick, lloyd irving).
>Like other anons said the human wrestler archetype could be used for other series characters
sure, but that would require either negotiating with a third party or digging deep in the archives for a retro character that rosterfags would still bitch about just as much. why bother when you have a god-tier wrestling character that's easy to put in?
>wasting a fucking Pokemon slot on it makes no sense
it was between incineroar and a pit clone. i'll happily take the unique moveset.
>What makes his animations any better than anyone else? There's also no personality besides "smiling while doing thing"
he taunts after every single move. at this point, you're just ignoring reality for the sake of your agenda.
>I can't even remember the last time I've gone against an Inceniroar online
wow, you mean to tell me shitters don't pick characters that aren't unga bunga?
>Name ONE thing Sakurai has ever done that hasn't had tons of apologists.
"corrin chooses to smash!"
>game isn't going to get too many newcomers
>durr Sakurai should have picked a pro wrestler character and a Pokemon!
If Incineroar wasn't getting picked, we were getting a projectile spamming owl. Would you have liked that instead?
They claim shit like "muh unique moveset" yet it doesn't bother them at all that Corrins down b is by far the least unique one in the game.
Bp honestly.
unfortunate
They better add KC this time.
they can't make a 2nd spirit of the same character. you beat classic mode with the character you get their fighter spirit. they can't make a fighter spirit of an already existing spirit cuz it'll confuse the hell out of players
>little association with nintendo
>literally the equivalent of Cloud
>both companies (Square+Atlus) having a history of games on Nintendo hardware
>both characters appearing in spinoff titles on Nintendo hardware
>The only character with massive fan demand remaining
And why would Banjo get in over Isaac, who had more fan demand docs.google.com
>One of two major Nintendo releases not yet included in Smash Brothers
Banjo-Kazooie is not a Nintendo property.
>The personal backing of the head of Xbox, who Nintendo would be negotiating with for a character
He was simply asked "would you be OK with Banjo in Smash?", he replied "Yes". He didn't have a reason to say "No", but the reply would have been the same were he to be asked about Rash, Master Chief or Conker.
>Nintendo and Microsoft's relationship is in a place that would allow for such a deal, Microsoft controlled games and series already making their way to Switch, Switch and Xbox are cross promoting, and the relationship is rumored to go even farther
That doesn't mean a Microsoft character is coming. Smae was said abotu Ubisoft, who managed to get theirs hand on Mario and put him in a Rabbids game, and that didn't bring a character despite the obvious collaboration on a game that started development in 2014.
>Steve's developers would have treaded all over NDA by now and even soft deconfirmed him at Minecon, Chief was outright deconfirmed, meanwhile Rare's public channels and Rare employee's have kept their cards close to their chests and not said anything
Except, y'know, that they have no plan on bringing back Banjo and tell you to play a Hat in Time if you want a new Banjo game. youtube.com
>Banjo-Kazooie has no real competition from within Rare, their most requested character by a longshot
And despite all that, it's BattleToads that's getting a revival. Funny how life works. It's like the world doesn't revolve around Smash.
>Had a sudden resurgence of merchandise just like Crash and Spyro did just ahead of their revivals
It makes no sense for me to have a Monster Hunter character, because at this point all the surprise is long gone. We know about Rathalos and the stage, announcing the character now would seem very lackluster.
>So why add shit like Inceniroar?
because he's unique and actually liked.
Shame. She would've made an interesting newcomer.
Gordon freeman have more lick honestly.
here's a more accurate analogy
>game has many characters with different playstyles that appeal to different people
>this single character is great because they represent a unique archetype that hasn't been done in the game before
this.
i'd rather have corrin over the marths solely for his moveset
>And why would Banjo get in over Isaac, who had more fan demand
Banjo is the most wanted 3rd party according to this chart, so that's a good reason.
>Why waste the Pokemon slot on it when it could easily be done by other characters?
if he chose star man or king or the rhythm heaven wrestler instead, you'd STILL bitch that they "stole" the "slot" from geno/banjo/isaac. who are you trying to fool?
2 spirits of the same character. so what? people might be mildly confused for one second, then they ignore it and move on because it doesn't matter
Sure, friend. Whatever helps you COPE.
Gordon Freeman is a worthless dead and forgotten literal who. Nintendo and Sakurai would never ever want him as a fighter in Smash.
GOKU INTENSIFIES
so it's better not to confuse anyone than to confuse some.
>Never the guy
>Never drew a dime
>Never cut a memorable promo
>Never put anyone over
>Never had the balls to step out of his Collectathon comfort even when Rareware threw millions at him
> Only had one good game
>Main evented the lowest drawing Nintendo system of the '90s
>Main evented the second lowest drawing Xbos exclusive of the '00s
>Tanked the buyrate of Rare Replay so hard his remaster was cancelled
>Was barely ever in the AAA picture outside of the N64 because he was never a big enough deal
>Only the 10th best member of Diddy Kong Racing
>Only the 9th best member of Banjo Pilot
>His gibberish speak was cringeworthy
>His ugly yellow pants was cringeworthy
>Unironically calls himself """"""""DA BEAR AND DA BIRD""""""""
>Shit taste in video games
>Shit gimmicks
>Failed at getting over with the Xbros crowd so badly he was reduced to a bonus costume in Minecraft which actually drew dimes
>Only significant achievement was being one of 12 N64 games that actually sold more than a million copies
>Is the video game equivalent of that one insufferably mediocre middle manager whose sole professional """""""achievement"""""" is staying in the same shitty job for 25 years
>Drew so poorly in his 2005 game that Conker of all people had to take the spotlight off him
>spent the latter part of his career buried by superior young talent
>The biggest impact he had on the business was giving Playtonic enough leverage to swindle 2 Million dollars from sad millenial manchildren who can't grow up and let go of the past
One nitpick
>He was simply asked "would you be OK with Banjo in Smash?", he replied "Yes". He didn't have a reason to say "No", but the reply would have been the same were he to be asked about Rash, Master Chief or Conker.
Yet he got all kind of requests and never bothered to reply to any other.
based
>STILL acting like Phil only made the one tweet
My sides
>evidently it isn't, considering how many anime swordsmen are already in the game and rosterfags keep begging for more of them (issac, erdrick, lloyd irving).
"u-u-uh shit better pick a character off the wheel and hope it sticks because i dont have an actual argument"
Go ahead and get the "geno, waddle dee, gex, etc." shit out of the way in your next post.
>sure, but that would require either negotiating with a third party or digging deep in the archives for a retro character that rosterfags would still bitch about just as much.
And there's the "YOU WOULD HATE THIS TOO" shit. Please try actually defending inceniroar.
> why bother when you have a god-tier wrestling character that's easy to put in?
Because he isn't. It's an ugly character that wasn't even liked in it's own series.
>it was between incineroar and a pit clone. i'll happily take the unique moveset.
>B-B-B-BUT *other character* 3 posts in a row
c'mon user
>he taunts after every single move. at this point, you're just ignoring reality for the sake of your agenda.
Only if you don't input anything for like a second afterwards, meaning it's a novelty you'll see a few times. I don't see why this can't be done by other characters.
>wow, you mean to tell me shitters don't pick characters that aren't unga bunga?
>LUL PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY PLAY THE GAME LIKE BARACAT
>Not that many people play fapcat because he's hard
??????
>"corrin chooses to smash!"
>corrin doesn't have apologists
Okay you're just fucking stupid.
The only criteria is the Sakurai's criteria
How would you feel if Reimu or Hatsune Miku got announced?
they want to pull as many smash fans into smash as they can. all this means is that dlc characters will be characters from currently relevant franchises who's fanbase doesn't intersect with the smash fanbase.
Rate my shitty tastes Yea Forums.
People kept going on about his irrelevance before his conclusion, so I guess it kind of slipped into my mind. Sorry about that.
Why do people pretend Phil's opinion matters? He's not the one deciding the character.
I like how ten or fifteen different Inceniroar apologists replied and can't come up with a single argument besides
>IT'S FUN
if facing such a tiny, inconsequential issue means making tons of money by selling DLC, then they'll do it.
finally someone who has some sense
You're fucking retarded.
>hates fun
yikes
you seem like a cool guy
The fact that you don't really have anything for least wanted already makes you better than most others.
Another nitpick
>And despite all that, it's BattleToads that's getting a revival. Funny how life works. It's like the world doesn't revolve around Smash.
True, and I’ll go further and admit Rare isn’t interested in a new Banjo game.
Still it wouldn’t be up to Rare to decide whether they’re in or not, Rare is property if Microsoft now.
Every character so far has roots in Japan. They are all made by a Japanese studio/dev. I'm sorry user but Master Chief, while popular in North America, isnt popular in Japan.
>pretty based picks
>willing to be accepting of just about anything as long as its enjoyable
>Dededebro
10/10 taste
He is though?
Nintendo can't do shit without Xbox's (aka Phil's) ok. He is THE determining factor.
Wrong. Nobody likes Incineroar.
it wouldn't be shitty if you didn't care who gets in smash. but i see you diverse list of characters proves you don't so you're good.
Banjies BTFO
I just want one of these.
Steve? (Minecraft)
Doomguy / slayer (guess)
MK rep (mortal kombat)
Hotline miami reference or music
>Dante
>Arle
>Reimu
>Heavy
>Doomguy
>Dark Matter
Based
>no least wanted
For that, I'll forgive you for Goku
that's a fair point. i'd argue that ridley is only popular in the west but ridley wasn't paid dlc.
This argument would work if we were talking about Piranha Plant because I genuinely can't think of anyone else that can use it's specials.
Inceniroar's moveset can easily be done by other people.
>Banjo is the most wanted 3rd party according to this chart, so that's a good reason.
No. Isaac was more requested than Banjo, and somehow didn't get in, despite being easier to add.
So why exactly would they bother going to a Western company for a character from a franchise as dead as Golden Sun when they couldn't even bother adding a Nintendo requested character?
Two tweets who were exactly the same.
"Are you ok with Banjo in Smash?"
"Yep"
One in 2015 and one in 2018.
The only third instance was an interview where he said he received requests for Banjo and would be OK for his inclusion in Smash. Which means jack shit considering he was still not added in Ultimate in the base game. And since they are not even interested into reviving the series, I don't see how both Nintendo and Microsoft could see an interest in marketing a character that didn't have a decent game in 19 years.
Here's your female shill pick
Based spongebobchad
Yesterdays’ flavor is forgotten. This months flavor is Steve recommended by Discord
It clearly matters or you wouldn't be desperately trying to downplay it :^)
>wanting Rhythm trash on smash
that series is niche as fuck and the only representation it would deserve, it would be as a stage at least
nah, they won't. they never did now that i think about it.
>Artorias
>No. Isaac was more requested than Banjo, and somehow didn't get in, despite being easier to add.
Issac is first party, good job not reading.
Sounds like a best case scenario to me
HE'S IN
Banjo is never coming back, just accept it.
If shitters like Bubsy, ToeJam and Earl, Shaq-Fu and Earthworm Jim all got a revival before Banjo, then you just have to accept that all hope is lost. You're delusional to even think he has a chance.
that would be 2B
squared and spongepilled
>He doesn't know about the interview where he brought it up unprovoked
Lol based (biased) retard
didn't know i wanted this
gotta do better than that, that's a dying brand
So if he does get in will you film the suicide attempt?
What do you mean "they never did"? Has an issue so minor stopped Nintendo from doing something before?
You'd have a point if Microsoft actually used any of it's properties.
He isn't. Sakurai is going to go to him with a character already in mind. And Phil can only deny the character or accept them. And it makes no sense for Phil to deny the character Sakurai asks for him.
Based
i rather prefer to see a fortnine character over this garbage
I accept your concession
except he litteraly has no say besides yes or no if nintendo came to him
that's literally it
he litteraly has no involvment in any of this besides giving the okay
and guess what 99% chance they never even did
it's almost like theres not going to be any microsoft stuff
how did people delude themselves so much to even think that was happening in the first place let alone banjoke
>Appeals to non-Nintendo demographics
>Doom was hailed as one of the major ports and one of the major mature titles on Switch to appeal to a new demographic
He's in
>dying brand
>the shill character
???
>"u-u-uh shit better pick a character off the wheel and hope it sticks because i dont have an actual argument"
what? it's a fact that one certain archetype is overrepresented in the game and people still want more.
if unique movesets were really the bare minimum requirement for sakurai OR the fans, the roster would look a whole lot different and characters like isaac wouldn't be consistently near the top of fan polls.
>And there's the "YOU WOULD HATE THIS TOO" shit.
it's the truth, and even you know it's true. rosterfags fling shit at every character that isn't part of their circlejerk. it's why you guys have no credibility in these arguments.
>Because he isn't. It's an ugly character
in your opinion.
>that wasn't even liked in it's own series.
false, see >B-B-B-BUT *other character* 3 posts in a row
again, i'm just stating facts. sakurai said months ago that the pokemon "slot" came down to incineroar and decidueye. decidueye would be yet another archery-focused character when we already have two of those. incineroar brings a unique moveset to the table. from a pure gameplay perspective, he's the superior choice, not a "wasted slot" compared to the realistic alternative.
>I don't see why this can't be done by other characters.
other characters aren't heel wrestlers whose job is to perform and work the crowd into a seethe.
>Inceniroar's moveset can easily be done by other people.
Who? A pro wrestler from an old NES game? The wrestler from Rhythm Heaven? Nintendo doesn't have that many wrestlers.
Any of these would make me happy:
Dante
Kratos
Master Chief
Amaterasu
Lmao
That's literally the exact opposite of how it works per Sakurai's own account of how he got Cloud. Nintendo approaches him for a character, he calls the shot as to who is on the table. And we know who he wants.
Cope harder
>dying brand
>new game is already profitable before it even released
>ass robot meme character
Cringe
>Biggest inspiration
>Touhou
*laughs in Earthbound*
Seethe harder, grinchie.
???????????????
except sakuri went to square littteraly only wanting cloud retard
square didn't choose it
you actually think they even approached microsoft to begin with
delusional retard
>Never the guy
Theyre a Duo
>Never drew a dime
Eh
>Never cut a memorable promo
I dont even...
>Never put anyone over
Over what?
>Never had the balls to step out of his Collectathon comfort even when Rareware threw millions at him
They tried with the vehicle game
> Only had one good game
Banjo Kazooie and Tooie were both good
>Main evented the lowest drawing Nintendo system of the '90s in its last breath
Still ended up in the top 10
>Main evented the second lowest drawing Xbos exclusive of the '00s
True
>Tanked the buyrate of Rare Replay so hard his remaster was cancelled
No
>Was barely ever in the AAA picture outside of the N64 because he was never a big enough deal
Hes in promo art with all Nintendo mascots
>Only the 10th best member of Diddy Kong Racing
He sucks
>Only the 9th best member of Banjo Pilot
He sucks
>His gibberish speak was cringeworthy
It was fun and memorable
>His ugly yellow pants was cringeworthy
No one but you bothers
>Unironically calls himself """"""""DA BEAR AND DA BIRD""""""""
No they dont
>Shit taste in video games
Its a fictional character
>Shit gimmicks
Still better than Mario 64
>Failed at getting over with the Xbros crowd so badly he was reduced to a bonus costume in Minecraft which actually drew dimes
Rare just doesnt care, its a fact
>Only significant achievement was being one of 12 N64 games that actually sold more than a million copies
Which is a great achievement
>Is the video game equivalent of that one insufferably mediocre middle manager whose sole professional """""""achievement"""""" is staying in the same shitty job for 25 years
You meant the Stamper Bros? Theyre
Millionaires
>The biggest impact he had on the business was giving Playtonic enough leverage to swindle 2 Million dollars from sad millenial manchildren who can't grow up and let go of the past
Still manages to keep v/ obsessed for months. WHY?!?!
>That's literally the exact opposite of how it works per Sakurai's own account of how he got Cloud.
Sakurai went to Nomura with Cloud already in mind. He's going to do the same with other DLC characters. Hell, the past Atlus CEO said that it was Sakurai that approached him and asked him if he could Joker in Smash Bros. There's very little room for negotiation since Nintendo is selecting the characters and Sakurai determines who can be a fighter. Sakurai is going to go to the owners of the whatever characters asking specifically for the character he and Nintendo decided on.
Based.
Only once he is in will these people reflect and realize how one sided the issue of which Microsoft character is getting in really was.
And why exactly being a 3rd party is a "good argument" into a character's inclusion?
That's dumb as fuck.
My point makes sense: Isaac is more popular than Banjo, see this pool of 50,000 votes that show it. Logically, Isaac should be added over or with Banjo.
Your point: Banjo is a 3rd party character, thus he should be added!
I literally mentioned it, and it was in 2016 after receiving tweets for Banjo in Smash, it means jack shit. The idea didn't come from himself but from people sending requests on Twitter. If this interview came in 2015 and the tweets in 2016, you'd had a point, but saying it was unprovoked IS being biased towards Banjo.
I unironically think he's be the best and most surprising pick, prove me wrong.
Sakurai went to square not knowing who they'd put on the table and came to the conclusion of cloud after hours of weighing options, read the interview.
Earthbound is already in the game, and tons of attack patterns in Undertale were taken straight from Touhou. Even the music sounds like Touhou.
?????
Samus Returns September 15, 2017
litteraly had a game released 2 years ago
how is that irrelevant
99% the idiots on this site have no clue what their talking about
tsk tsk you know rosterfags have lost it when they're trying to convince you that the gameplay aspect of a video game isn't important
geno and ff7 music. it wouldn't kill sakurai to ask square enix to put their stuff in smash but nah he's probably too much of a pussy to do so
REASONS WHY SPACE INVADER IS UNDOUBTABLY IN:
>Has a great history with Nintendo (Many titles and arcade ports have been released on consoles such as the NES, SNES, N64, Game Boy, GBA, DS, and Wii)
>Space Invaders is one of the most mainstream video game franchises of all time, and is instantly recognizable even to the average normalfag
>Space Invaders is the #6 highest-grossing video game franchise of all time, with Pac-Man, Mario and Pokemon being the only Smash-represented franchises above it (en.wikipedia.org
>Would represent Taito, who already have their foot in the door thanks to their help in composing one of the tracks featured in Ultimate
>Would represent the SHMUP genre
>On top of that, is essentially the grandfather of the SHMUP genre as a whole
>Would have unique moveset potential
>Gamewise the franchise is still relevant, with its latest title Space Invaders Frenzy being released in 2017
>Fits the criteria of being an "unexpected choice new to Smash", which is what the Fighter's Pass lineup has been described to be like
>Would appeal both to the East and the West
>Game just had its 40th anniversary last year, would be the perfect time for a reveal
He went to Square with Cloud in mind. And he went to Atlus with Joker already decided between him and Nintendo.
Heck, I'd even say that SMT is more of an influence to Undertale than Touhou, personally.
isn't that the same interview where he said he'd love to see mario on xbox? i'm sure odyssey is getting ported any day now, user.
Banjofags in full damage control ITT
I'd love it. Though in the case of Touhou I'd worry for the fandom. But I can't deny that I'd love it.
Touhou in Smash, it'd be incredible. Miku too.
except that's wrong retard
>what? it's a fact that one certain archetype is overrepresented in the game and people still want more.
Where did I say I wanted more, though?
>it's the truth, and even you know it's true. rosterfags fling shit at every character that isn't part of their circlejerk. it's why you guys have no credibility in these arguments.
>BUT GEEEEENENNNNOOOIOINNOMONS AFMNIOEWRI EFGINSEI *SHIT'S PANTS*
BANDANDANDADA DDA DEEE FUCK ENGJFERKNFKESNBGFESBWKBK STOP SAKURAI IS PREFENFERJUNFENC"
>in your opinion.
And everyone who isn't a furry.
>false, see
>Pokemon refresh
what the fuck even is that. Pick related shows Inceniroar not even getting in top 10
>again, i'm just stating facts. sakurai said months ago that the pokemon "slot" came down to incineroar and decidueye. decidueye would be yet another archery-focused character when we already have two of those. incineroar brings a unique moveset to the table. from a pure gameplay perspective, he's the superior choice, not a "wasted slot" compared to the realistic alternative.
Huh, I guess DK and Bowser already fit Inceniroar's niche because they also grapple.
>other characters aren't heel wrestlers whose job is to perform and work the crowd into a seethe.
>Inceniroar is the most popular pokemon ever
>But it also makes people angry
???????
Sakurai already had Cloud in mind when he went to Nomura.
>He went to Square with Cloud in mind.
The funniest part about this is I know you won't source the article because it says the exact opposite
When it's your ONLY argument for defendinfg a character, and it's the bare minimum, it's a shit argument. Is Inceniroar good because you can select him on the css, too? Or because he has a render? Or 8 colors?
This triggers the anti-Banjofags
>both would come with fucking amazing music
>and probably be super unique
Why would people NOT want this
>Huh, I guess DK and Bowser already fit Inceniroar's niche because they also grapple.
absolute retard
making a whole character and dealing with licensing issues? those are pretty major things. not like having 2 spirits.
A bunch of Wii Fit Trainer yoga poses are spirits. So is K Rool wearing a pirate hat.
Lucas and Mewtwo already had trophies in Smash 4 before becoming DLC, After being sold, they got more trophies. The same could happen to spirits.
you just know most of these rosterfags don't even play the game. they just think smash is going to revive their favorite dead childhood franchise or something. they should ask f-zero fans how that's turned out for them.
Source that Square Enix, not Nintendo and Sakurai, had the say on who would be on the table: sourcegaming.info
Cue the stevey stevey cope and seethey
They would censor her ass in some way and you’d all cry.
You think you want her in but you really don’t.
>Link has a bow so Decidueye would be the same as him
>NO THIS LOGIC DOESN'T APPLY TO THE CAT I WANT TO FUCK
...
Crash is IN
more like makes you look like a freak
>18 votes
>something no one voted on
wow it's like it means absolutely nothing
>THESZE PEOPLE VOTED FOR HIM DECADES AGO WHEN HE WAS RELEVANT THAT MEANS HE HAS BEEN WANTED FOR ALL THIS TIME
are you like actually mentally retarded?
Good job, user. I'm sure Sakurai is going to personally thank you for defending all of his decisions some day!
/v should literary make Banjo their mascot, for the amount of irrelevance he has accordibg to the denizens of v/ he’s talked about a
tad too much.
Prove me wrong
>Banjo & Kazooie
>James Bond
>Toad
>Gooey
Based. The rest of the Fighters Pass is looking great!
>Sakurai: This isn’t an exact number, but among the requests for a Final Fantasy character to appear in Smash, around ¼ to ⅓ of the requests we got from fans were for Cloud. [TN1] I really wanted to answer the desires of those fans, and even though I thought it would be impossible, I reached out anyway, just to try.
What, are you fucking retarded? It confirms that Sakurai wanted Cloud.
Just imagine the Banquet of Nature and Tuna remixes
t. zoomer
So does this shitpost leak count?
Good. World couldn't handle the nerf to her ass.
>>third party
>>little association with Nintendo
>>represents an aspect of gaming as a whole
>>appeals to non-Nintendo demographics
>>inherently unique as a fighter
Yeah, I'm thinking he's in.
>little association with Nintendo
Of course they started focusing on subverting expectations when he had a shot as a nintendo exclusive
>Already proven false
No?
From the same interview:
>Nomura: When we first talked, I asked “are you sure you’re okay with Cloud?” He’s not a character from a new game, after all.
You didn't even bother reading the interview, you illiterate fuck. If Nomura had been left to his own device, we would have gotten a more recent character like Lightning.
Cuphead switch was rumored pretty heavily before this so there's no real credibility.
>gameplay is the bare minimum aspect of a video game
Cope
cant wait when the next one is another "weeb" character like monokuma or saber
and the site shit's themeselves
>Even the music sounds like Touhou.
obligatory
youtube.com
>Even the music sounds like Touhou
Except for tracks that are play by play inspired by Earthbound like Bring it in Guys and the fact that the main theme's bass is literally just Valhalla from SMT2
Definitely, you could just as easily argue the routes mirroring the choices in SMT.
>Interview literally, LITERALLY confirms the opposite
user...
imagine if noctis is the next character
>this new character isn't a clone so that makes them good, even though that's what we would've gotten no matter what
"This restaraunt serves nothing but shit but you can order pepsi so it's a good restaurant"
Yeah
>Doen't read the "shitpost" part
Retards don't even know what they share
t. zoomers
Go back to Discord
Stevefags have the same smug aura that Hilldawgs had before they lost the election
>Cuphead not revealed during nindies showcase
>Frisk not revealed during Joker's showcase
Oh wait you're pretending to be retarded, my bad.
This confirms that Sakurai went to Nomura with Cloud in mind.
>Where did I say I wanted more, though?
where did i say you wanted more? again, i brought up anime swordsmen to show how unique movesets aren't actually the bare minimum for sakurai or the fanbase like you claimed they were. it's as simple as that.
>BANDANDANDADA DDA DEEE FUCK ENGJFERKNFKESNBGFESBWKBK STOP SAKURAI IS PREFENFERJUNFENC"
with "arguments" like those, it's clear you're conceding. good to see you know i'm right.
>And everyone who isn't a furry.
i'm not a furry and incineroar looks kino.
>Pick related shows Inceniroar not even getting in top 10
if he was hated, he wouldn't be ranked at all, his merchandise wouldn't be selling, etc. and this was all before smash, mind you.
>Huh, I guess DK and Bowser already fit Inceniroar's niche because they also grapple.
having a couple grappling moves =/= having an entire wrestling-focused moveset.
>Inceniroar is the most popular pokemon ever
nobody said that.
>But it also makes people angry
heels have fans too, user. it's all kayfabe.
So you're trolling.
>Does this shitpost leak count
user the answer is still no, are you dumb?
>reading comprehension makes you a zoomer now
Can Amerifats go two minutes without thinking about food?
Reading comprehension my illiterate summerchild, I’m on your side of the argument here
>character is bad because it's not the character i wanted
Ok darling
We can all agree that Undertale is weird mishmash of many games, but Toby is a well known 2hufag, and it's influence is extremely apparent in its battle system.
there's no point is continuing to argue with a retard
>Dying brand
>New game is coming out this year
Is the Darkstalkersfag still seething that the SamShodownchads got a new game before Cuckstalkers did?
>I-I was just p-pretending to be retarded... H-haha...
cute
Jesus you're genuinely retarded and I'm a Banjofag.
>if you don't hate the exact same characters as i do, you must defend everything sakurai does!
user the pic you posted was directly in opposition, please don't be an idiot.
Toby directly said that SMT was an inspiration for Undertale, brainlet.
I mean, that's fair enough but Touhou isn't the only bullet hell to exist.
Undertale being popular doesn't mean a Touhou rep was due anymore than Shovel Knight being popular got Simon in.
sounds like someone is upset
Summary of the last few posts, nothing makes sense, everyone misunderstands each other.
Why am I still here?
bingtendies:
>"SNOY ONLY MAKES MOVIE GAMES! IF IT'S NOT FUN, WHY BOTHER? GAMEPLAY IS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS!"
also bingtendies:
>"GAMEPLAY DOESN'T MATTER! ONLY MUH CHILDHOOD NOSTALGIA CHARACTERS MATTER!"
Based
escapistmagazine.com
>The inspiration for the talking system came from Shin Megami Tensei. I feel that it's important to make every monster feel like an individual.
>where did i say you wanted more? again, i brought up anime swordsmen to show how unique movesets aren't actually the bare minimum for sakurai or the fanbase like you claimed they were. it's as simple as that.
But they are. That's why we have echo symbols next to echoes. They're not counted.
>with "arguments" like those, it's clear you're conceding. good to see you know i'm right.
The point is you just shout whatever character there is because you don't have any actual argument. You just threw a dart at a board, and shouted "geno" somehow means that Inceniroar is a good choice.
>i'm not a furry and incineroar looks kino.
Yes you are and no he isn't.
>if he was hated, he wouldn't be ranked at all, his merchandise wouldn't be selling, etc. and this was all before smash, mind you.
Being 12th place despite Gamefreak trying their absolute hardest to make him the next Charizard is pretty fucking sad.
>having a couple grappling moves =/= having an entire wrestling-focused moveset.
having a couple bow moves =/= having an entire archery focused moveset.
>nobody said that.
Every inceniroar fan thinks this.
>heels have fans too, user. it's all kayfabe
Being popular means you have a significant amount more people liking you than not liking you. Either way it's just a "he's SUPPOSED to not be likable" still means you're not likable. It's like the "i'm only pretending to be stupid"
This is a falseflag post. Banjofags and Erdrickfags have no reason to be at odds with one another because one getting in does not mean the other will not. Also, so far, none of the leaks have been proven correct yet. Some folks have gotten a few things correct but they were either missing information on other aspects OR had other info completely wrong. As it stands, every single "leak" holds no more water than a wild guess.
Sakurai here
Thanky-yous for all of ta frey advertisementsan!
WHY DO YOU SPACE YOUR POSTS LIKE THAT
So this is happening, huh?
More like
>character is bad because literally nobody wanted them
The people only defending them are doing it because Sakurai chose him. Would've been the same if it were bird, seal, etc.
Are all anti-Incineroarfags like this?
This would make more sense than doomguy based on that criteria
Despite being way more influential, doomguy has a fuckton of association with Nintendo to the point the only game not in a Nintendo console is doom 3, they even have an exclusive sequel in the n64
SPACE UR POSTS NORMALLY HOLYSHIT
Yeah... it’s almost like the day when ResetEra lost its last leakers and was supposed to fall appart because of that THIS place fell appart.
So strange...
Just saying if I did like Inceniroar and thought he was good I would be content with that alone and not spend 7 months straight posting the same images and shouting "grinch cope autist"
>reddit spacing
Fuck off.
>only characters circlejerked by Yea Forums and Smash Brosfags are allowed to get in
>any character not circlejerked is a bad addition
oof
seething little erdrincel doesn't know how to cope with his shit mayor-of-whoville character not making the cut
>all the same response
Inceniroar apologists are LITERALLY npcs, holy shit.
I defend Incineroar because wrestling characters are great, so fuck off
Never understood Reddit spacing
What
Does
It
Mean?
Why does no one talk about the datamine? Who else could "brave" be?
t. salty Grinchfag
you don't have to trust anybody
There are good non requested picks like Joker, Wii Fit Trainer, Duck Hunt, etc.
Inceniroar isn't one of them unless you're a gay furry.
Reimu
Sod off, scum.
>primarina plushie also sold out
>primarina ranked higher
>VGC is the reason for the other two bits
Honestly why isn't Primarina DLC
I have no clue what your on about didn't even read the posts
just fucking type LIKE A NORMAL PERSON OR FUCK OFF HOLY SHIT FAGGOT
Brave could mean
>Banjo
>Sora
>Erdrick
>Undertale character
>Practically any other video game character in existence
>Incineroar isn't one of them unless because I don't like this character
fixed
It'd be too obvious for Brave to be Erdrick.
hahah! :D
it's my weeeeeenus peanus! :) hahah
ITT: The character that represents Brave - my answer is, of course, my peanus weenus :D
hahaha!
WANTING ANOTHER LATESTEST GEN SHILL STARTER
FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF
OFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Why do you fucking retards keep insisting there are patterns to everything?
Sakurai does what he wants, when he wants, ow he wants.
Shut the fuck up already.
Considering Joker and Arsene's codenames were obvious as fuck, Brave is likely Erdrick.
Unlike my examples Inceniroar doesn't represent a new series, wasn't the best choice for his game, wasn't well liked compared to other characters in that series, etc.
Chad's choice:
>Doomguy
Gay nerd shit:
>other characters
Brave is a red herring
Balto
>Toby directly said that SMT was an inspiration for Undertale, brainlet
I'm not disagreeing with you. Are you sure that I'm the brainlet here? And he said the same for Touhou
GENRES NOT YET REPRESENTED IN SMASH
>SHUMP
>fps
>indie/doujinshi
>mobile/gacha
Therefore the last ballot characters will be Reimu, Master Chief, Frisk, and Kiran/Summoner.
Thank you for your time.
Screenshot this post, I'm a leaker and one of these is true
Banjo got a revival.
In 2008.
Incineroar is still well liked in his series, even if he isn't as popular as Rowlet or whatever. Gen 7 is the only recent gen that had all three final evos be popular, compared to the travesty that was Gen 5 and Gen 6 having only Greninja be popular. It's quite an accomplishment, honestly.
>That's why we have echo symbols next to echoes.
and yet there are still plenty of anime swordsmen who aren't echoes.
>The point is you just shout whatever character there is because you don't have any actual argument.
no, that's what rosterfags do when they shout "STAR MAN! KING! RHYTHM HEAVEN WRESTLER!" at anyone who points out incineroar's unique moveset.
they aren't any more "valid" than incineroar, and they'd get shit on just the same by rosterfags if they were chosen, so the only point in bringing them up is to be contrarian.
>Yes you are and no he isn't.
nope. cope.
>Being 12th place despite Gamefreak trying their absolute hardest to make him the next Charizard is pretty fucking sad.
game freak has done very little to push incineroar, actually. he's appeared in a couple episodes of the anime, jobbed to charizard in a movie, and that's about it. only a smashfag secondary would try to pretend he's had anything close to charizard-tier promotion.
>having a couple bow moves =/= having an entire archery focused moveset.
decidueye really doesn't have much else in terms of material.
>Every inceniroar fan thinks this.
nope.
>Either way it's just a "he's SUPPOSED to not be likable" still means you're not likable. It's like the "i'm only pretending to be stupid"
playing a villain role =/= being unlikeable.
So is my peeeeanus weenus!
Hahaha :)
Sora is thicc.
Steve is inevitable.
>GENRES NOT YET REPRESENTED IN SMASH
>fps
Dark Samus
?????
litterally no one would have guessed jack was joker
fuck off with this dumb shit
litteraly no one knows what brave is
newsflash asshole
IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE WHAT U THINK IT IS
god you are all so fucking retarded
You forgot horror, fag.
see Cope, DQcuck.
They're in
>All of these posts for shitty characters, None for Basedleon.
Oh you'll all see, fags. See you at E3.
>Indie not represented in Smash
Shovel Knight is an assist trophy. Hakurai said it counts. DEAL WITH IT
>Mobile
Fire Emblem's in Smash. DEAL WITH IT
>SHMUP
Fox and Falco are in Smash. DEAL WITH IT
>Erdrick
His class in Japanese DQ is the word for "Hero", which from Japanese to English, roughly translates to "brave person".
>Sora
In KH2, Sora has a form called Valor form, but in Japan is called Brave form.
no one else has anything solid to relate to the word "brave"
this
someone post the pic
>im a leaker
an hero anytime
Horror's already represented by [your favorite character] lmao what a nightmare
>people picking western characters
Yikes
He can attack with his peaaaanis weenus!
Haha! :)
Dickaxe!
Yuri Lowell
But Jack and Doyle are obvious. There's nothing wrong with Brave being obvious.
i don't see how primarina would even work in smash.
cope
based
>>>little association with Nintendo
>Doom
>Doom 2
>Doom 64
>Doom 2016
>Doom eternal
Only Doom 3 is missing, but you're right, little association with Nintendo
SPONGEBOB IS BRAVE
IT MAKES SENSE
HE'S THE SAME HEIGHT AS MARIO AND HE'S LIGHT
SEE YOU ALL AT E3
Star Fox is a rail shooter. Not a shmup in the traditional sense
chief and leon chads
why are they so based?
No, dataminers found Jack before the game released and thought it was fucking Raiden.
I hate how much of a floodgate Joker opened up for this shitshow of a series. I want to call people who want Reimu, Leon, Doomguy, etc retarded as fuck, but honestly with joker, anything is actually possible at this point.
>no one else has anything solid to relate to the word "brave"
crest of COURAGE, BRAVE heart, BRAVE shield.
Steve has a little weener!
Hahaha :)
!
Sounds like it's doomguy confirmed then
Go fuck yourself Graizen.
Not hard to be based when everyone else is cringe.
No matter what you think about Steveposting, it definitely brought an insane amount of OC.
>and yet there are still plenty of anime swordsmen who aren't echoes.
And they're for the most part, unique. (the FE cast has a lot of redundancies but are different enough to be "unique" for the most part)
>no, that's what rosterfags do when they shout "STAR MAN! KING! RHYTHM HEAVEN WRESTLER!" at anyone who points out incineroar's unique moveset.
Because that's the only argument Inceniroar apologists have and it's a moveset that can be easily implemented into other characters.
>they aren't any more "valid" than incineroar, and they'd get shit on just the same by rosterfags if they were chosen, so the only point in bringing them up is to be contrarian.
>YOU WOULD HATE THIS TOO
I don't. But you act as if the retro picks ever get treated unfairly, for the most part they're decently liked.
>nope. cope.
npc response
>game freak has done very little to push incineroar, actually. he's appeared in a couple episodes of the anime, jobbed to charizard in a movie, and that's about it. only a smashfag secondary would try to pretend he's had anything close to charizard-tier promotion.
That's more than 99% of pokemon get. If an even averagly designed pokemon got that amount of promotion they'd be in the top 5 easily.
>decidueye really doesn't have much else in terms of material.
It does, there's plenty of non archery moves in it's moveset. Like how not literally everything baracat does is grappling.
>nope.
yep
>playing a villain role =/= being unlikeable.
That's true. but playing the unlikeable role = being unlikeable
Don't forget Pakku. Remember that the character is called Packun Flower, not Pakku. Another obvious codename.
Dataminers are retarded for thinking that Jack was a deconfirmed character. The fact remains that the codenames for Joker and Arsene are obvious as fuck. Why would Brave be any different?
In all honesty I think Undyne would make for a better Undertale rep, Sans does too much weird shit to be accurately put into Smash as a fighter and would work better as an Assist Trophy.
>reddit spacing
Arsene had a code name too? what was it?
how is leon far off when u have snake in the game?
Donkey Kong and King K. Rool are only scary to fags and pedos
Trannies have to make up lies to feel comfortable around them
The day of the Kennedy is coming, fag.
>npc response
I want to have sex with you, you giys are so cool posting the same shit everyday, like clockwork. Even all the replies to the posts themselves are scripted!
Dedication!
That’s something to be proud of!
I guess