You do go magic when you play SMT, right user?

I love Yuzu.

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I can see what you mean.
youtu.be/E8QYlU0C9sE

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I can’t play smt because every time I use magic I do a gay motion with my hands pretending I’m doing the spell
Maybe eventually it will actually happen one day and I won’t be so sad

>every time I use magic I do a gay motion with my hands pretending I’m doing the spell
Nothing wrong with that

Embrace it, user.

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>want to play nocturne and dds
>can't play any battle for more than a few minutes otherwise i'll get motion sick
How do you play these games?

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Let me guess, you loved Harry Potter as a child?

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That's because Atsuro exists so there's absolutely no point speccing MC into physical.

Magic is great in DeSu 1. I built everybody as a mage except Atsuro, and he ultimately became useless by the mid-game

Atsuro is the best bro.

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I keep putting my levels in STR because I think Demi Fiend's default attack animation is really fucking funny, the way he lunges with a single fist and follows through way too hard.

never, I leave magic to my demons. it's always STR or DEX(in IV)

Oh shit, I didn't realize it got picked back up. Thank you.

The manga’s a pretty fun read.

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Why are the games so blurry anyway?

Only in DeSu

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That gif will never not make me laugh.

So let me get this straight
>mainline SMT: edgy cyberpunk post apocalyptic demon shenanigans
>Devil Summoner: edgy urban city demon shenanigans (with two taisho period as a bonus)
>Devil Survivor: we want the digimon audience demon shenanigans
>Digital Devil Saga: we want the Final Fantasy audience but no demon shenanigans
>Persona: feel good fanservice muh power of friendship shenanigans
are all these accurate

>Complaining about Nocturne's visuals
>Not the sound
Soundtrack's great but oh my fuck, it sounds like someone's playing it in a submarine when you hear it ingame.

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The camera's always swerving around, moving, zooming in and out, and a bunch of other shit in battles, especially in DDS. It's so damn disorienting.

Did DDS also suffer from this problem or is it just a Nocturne thing?

I was just thinking about this, I thought it was PCSX2 being shit. Is it really that bad even on original hardware? What gives?

Magic was the only way to go in DS1, this is why I barely used any physical based party members or demons. Rarely ever found a use or a point for them that didn't involve eventual Holy Dance spam.

In SMT3, I go early game Magic then dump everything into Strength as I approach mid-game. In SMT4 Apocalypse, I'm going 3 way split of Strength, the gun stat, and Magic. In DDS1 and 2 I went magic based.

In SMT1 and SMT2, which I used to play on a PSP, I went pure Magic. I wish SMT1 and SMT2 were playable in some form again....

It's not as bad in DDS because there are no lyrics in that. In Nocturne the lyrics during battle just sound like dogs barking in an empty warehouse.

>>Persona: feel good fanservice muh power of friendship shenanigans
This is how I know you never touched any of them prior to 4. 1-3 are still dark in tone, one of the endings of 2 involves the actual end of the world.

I kept Atsuro on the team not just because he was a bro but also because Pierce+Phys Amp+Drain Hit+Marksman+Deathbound+Multi-Strike is too fucking good.

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>In SMT1 and SMT2, which I used to play on a PSP, I went pure Magic.
You didn't learn any magic spells as the main character in SMT1, how did you go "pure magic" if you don't learn any spells? You straight up lying or there something I'm missing here.

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>Not having Atsuro punch everything into the milkyway

>In SMT1 and SMT2, which I used to play on a PSP, I went pure Magic
hmmm

played 1 for a bit, never touched both 2s, played 3 and 4 halfway, finished 5. come the fuck on, 3 was already leaning towards the muh friendship path and you know it.
also persona starts at 3

>leaning towards the muh friendship path
I'll agree with you somewhat, but the entire latter half of the game is so bleak in tone that is lacking in both 4 and 5.

LUCK BUILD WHENEVER POSSIBLE

Pierce is Overclocked exclusive isn't it?
Phys sucks in original but remake made it good.

This must be why I never really bothered with Physical then, I 100% DS1 back on the DS, and while I own Overclocked, I could never be bothered to try and beat that game again.

Just checked. It’s in the original as well.

yep, 3 is the last Persona to ever have its bleaky atmosphere of Megaten, not saying that the newer titles are always cheery and hunky dory, but the tone definitely makes you think that way

No it isn't. Pierce Hit was, I think, but that's still pretty garbage. In fact, even if it was, the lack of Multi-Hit would still cause Physical builds to be shit on by Magic builds.

I have never not done a STR build

megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Devil_Survivor_Skills
Check Passive Skills, dude.

It's the other way around, Piercing Hit is Overclocked exclusive, Pierce is in both.

3 is as power of friendship as 4 and 5 and it's no more or less dark than 5.

Actually my bad, Pierce+ was added in OC. As well as Health Save.

You're right, I was thinking about Holy Strike. It's just Phys Repel that there was no way around in Vanilla.

What are your hopes?

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Nocturne seems good but for some reason I couldn't fully get into it. Bare in mind I only got as far as when the world gets reshaped and shit and then I usually just stop.

For it to exist.

>ywn get a double titjob from Yuzu and Io
Why even live?

Depends on the game. In DeSu 1 it was basically required until overclocked happened.

ONE MORE GOD REJECTED

>Not going WORLD OF STRENGTH in Nocturne

I can understand going mag until 10 in 2 to open the door, but beyond that you're a mad lad.

stone+ and multi strike work well together

I'M THE BUG INSIDE YOU

I HAVE YOUR BACK TO THE WALL

Playing Kyuuyaku, int supposedly helps in negotiations, magic resistance and healing received
Speed seems useless as fuck, my MC's stats at like lv66 or 67 are vit 35, int 20, str 35 and speed and luck both 10
I don't know if those mechanics apply to SMT1&2 though

SURVIVED THE FALL FROM GRACE

Combat as engaging as press turn, be that an improvement of IVA or a new thing thats just as fun

DRINK OF THE WINE OF THE WRATH OF GOD

Always phys. Magic is for women and queers.

MAG is separate from INT in SMT1 and 2. INT functions as normal (and affects evasion in addition to agility) but MAG only increases magic damage and MP, which the MCs of the respective games cannot use beyond an aforementioned 10 mag in 2 to open a required door to finish the game.

Not that 1 or 2 is some impossible game to beat that you need to optimize your level ups but yeah Mag's just worthless besides 1 thing in those games.

Didn't MAG also reduce demon costs?

If it does then it's news to me. I am pretty sure it only effects magic and MP though.

ONE MORE GOD REJECTED

Nope. It's literally MP and Magic Attack, literally no point in putting it into anything in SMT 1, 2. No idea why that guy was lying.

I tend to go strength/agility everytime

Cute and funny public cumming.

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If you don't max luck you arent allowed to post in this thread

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You need a little bit of it in SMT2

Haven’t played IVA yet but this guy seems pretty based.

You also don't even need a full 10 to get into the Disco Club either, you can get buffs to build it up to 10.

I did a Luck build for SJ:Redux and I'm surprised how well that has worked out

His brother is waaay more based and red pilled

>not going full LUK
shiggydiggy

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What the fuck is his problem?

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Being God's blowjob machine doesn't really do well for anybody.

Which should I play first
Nocturne
Digital Devil Saga
Devil Summoner
Or Devil Survivor

I always go STR/LCK

So the chance for a double Paizuri will come

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Based and luckpilled

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FULL STRENGTH ALL GAMES EVERY GAME

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He keeps getting BTFO by teenagers.

Probably had to sacrifice quality for the layering technique they used where there's several tracks playing at once.

I'm going guns in SMT4, but I'm not liking the game as much as I initially thought I would. I'm playing SJ Redux a lot more. Does anyone else here prefer SJ over 4?

Absolute madman

Motion blur is an emulation bug in nocturne

I think most people do.

You and every other snowflake in 2013 thought this. Not exactly controversial or unique.

I believe it wasn't like that in the original release, it was only in Maniax that it became an issue. I don't know why that is though.

Going to do a luck meme build for V on the hardest difficulty. Can't wait

I wouldn't call Devil Summoner edgy, it's quite light hearted in comparison to mainline, even if there are a lot of serious moments

Ah I see. I'm new to SMT so I had no idea. I think I'm just gonna stick with SJ. I only got to Medusa in 4 so I might go back to it when I'm done.

doesn't Pierce still fuck up in the face of Repel though? I never bothered with phys because of it, because fuck having 5.68 billion multi-hits reflected even with pierce, while almighty shits on everyone who ever considered existing

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Oh also how is Nocturne to a newcomer? It seems really fun and I'd like another reason to go back to my PS2.

Only problem with phys is DeSu1 was that there weren't many good phys skills to share between leaders. If you make MC have phys then you would have enough for 2 leaders to have a good phys moveset. This is never a problem for demons because they don't share moves in the same way

Man of taste

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Watch as they actually changed luck to broken.
High Luck = Instant kill attacks

*if you make MC have magic

all three releases in Japan has the muffled tracks. It's just really shitty sound compression or a atmospheric choice

Some of the early bosses will turn you into a man, but other than that it's not that bad.

Only go Hard mode if you seek the thrill of death.

It's fine to start with.

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I want to do unlawful things to those Yoohoos

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Both DDS games have that as well and their soundtracks aren't compressed to the point of sounding like an AM radio broadcast

He was lying. Just misspoke.

>have no idea how to build doomguy in strange journey, heard there was no real magic and the levelups were rather random
>fuck it, look up a small guide on the questionnaire and go LCK for the heck of it
>that feel when doomguy activates first strike and no MP cost commands almost every single turn

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>In SMT4 Apocalypse, I'm going 3 way split of Strength, the gun stat, and Magic
>balanced builds

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Same

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>go str in sjr
>somehow end up with vit being my highest stat
ok

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It's all random

Doesn't Nocturne heavily favor STR by the endgame?

It does but magic is better for the majority of the game

My nigga

Alright you niggas keep memeing on LUK, so what does the stat even do? I've only ever played DeSu2 and SJR and LUK didn't matter

Status effects and instant death spells

Also critical hits, and I believe it helps with hit/evasion chance

Play SMT IV and SMT IV:A, get your big, green grin on

That as well.

SJR matters a lot in luck for commander skills

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This
Hitting 4000+ with Iron Claw right now and if one of those bitches dare to absorb physical I always have my Elec and Fire Boost demons ready anyway.
Other than that, Focus, War Cry, Fog Breath and passives.

I WILL NOT CRACK

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>liking ANY DeSu character
DeSu games are fun for grinding and fusion autism but the characters are dogshit, Yasuda's shitty designs don't help either.

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>Atsuro
>Naoya
>Amane
>dogshit
You take that back right the fuck now.

Cram it, nerd.

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if you have luck like around 200 in smt4 you crit 90% of the time which pretty much breaks the game

God bless Psyduck.

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>not liking Atsubro

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I liked the /chaos/ guy

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Now that's shit taste

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>he doesn’t like Atsubro
I want heathens to leave

What with doomguy being a vending machine meme?

The fact that Airi turned out to be a non-shit tsundere was a pleasant surprise.

When the protagonist uses an item it has priority over everything else making it useful for him to support demons during boss battles.

In all honesty people exaggerate him being weak way too hard. As long as seek out good equipment instead of just using whatever mediocre shit you find he can become ridiculous. If you get the frost cannon in Carina he'll become a god of death for like the next four sectors or so.

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>hey cuz, wanna style on God’s face?
Naoya’s route was based as fuck.

Full STR every game. Doesn't matter if it's good or not.

You have a good point.

While vending machine can become fairly strong, he will never be as strong as your mid-late game demons. He has the added bonus of immediately going before anyone else if he uses an item, so you can use whatever you need to in order to support your vastly superior demons.

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>LUK 200
>Only do 5 damage because no ATK or MAG

IV doesn't have a defensive stat and crits multiple your attacks by 2, plus hard hitting lategame moves and charge

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Now that's based and redpilled. Fuck law and fuck chaos.

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Based

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Did they bang?

>In SMT1 and SMT2,
>I went pure Magic
Why?

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In the Drama CD

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Based Demifiend

I only played the first one, but I wasn't particularly fond of any of them. People talk up Atsuro, but he didn't make too great an impression on me. I don't dislike him, but I felt no attachment to him either.

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>grinding in desu
>yasuda bad
>disliking atsurbro and naoya

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While this is true, I’m still suprised the the game basically makes you eat shit if you fight Lucifer with anything other than a STR build. Is there any way to beat Lucifer without the Demifiend having pierce?

Atsuro is the greatest bro of all time.
>is competent and contributes to the story
>generally a nice guy and likable nerd
>will never leave your side
>can punch demons really hard

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From those guys that I’m pretty sure are night gaunts from the first trailer I’m hoping to god that the great old ones come back as an actual faction to be feared.

Wildest dream would be for them to represent either law/chaos/neutral or a fourth alignment like the white but actually fun.

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That would actually be pretty cool, yeah.

Nocturne Hard Type mod makes pierce work with Magic so yes

Demons that have pierce

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You can buy a demon with pierce in the fifth kalpa

I never played a SMT, persona, or whatever game
what should I start with?

IV:A 2.0

he's saying it's kino (it is)

We said the same thing about SMT X FE

Whichever one that interest you that is not SMT 2, P2: Eternal Punishment, Raidou 2, DDS2 or IV: Apocalypse.

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I think he means gameplay wise.

>P2: Eternal Punishment
why not? this is the game that discovered these series for me in a magazine

Because you should play P2: Innocent Sin first.

oh I didn't know there were more than one P2
then I don't know which one was it
thanks user

Who's your favorite male demon, and why is it Mothman?

DDS1/2 magic besides Heat.
SMT3 Punch magic
SMT4 went melee it was shit and mostly just smacked shit well demons magic'd
SMT4A Magic and Melee are good but magic is better especially cus of end bosses so magic 2nd playthrough but first smack shit.

I like SJ because like Nocturne its best to smack shit and unlike other games you don't have a choice its shoot or smack shit like a boss.

>Ultimate goal of all factions is Cthulhu, locked in R’yleh
>Angels being angels want to do something that either controls his power or allows them to create a world of LAW using the dreamlands
>Meanwhile chaos isn’t led by Lucifer this time but Nyarlathotep who wishes to awaken Cthulhu to make a world of CHAOS but unlike Lucifer he isn’t controlled opposition and even has an answer to YHVH in the form of Azathoth.
>Meanwhile Nodens is the neutralfag who wants them both to piss off and save humanity from either extreme, and also because fuck Nyarly.

I’ll just put that in my list of “things I want but will never ever get”

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People actually complain about the swimming pool audio?

It just adds to the atmosphere of the game.

As much as I don't see praise for it reasons were a pretty good possible evolution to alignments. It was super interesting to basically see the world of STR and individuality one was more of a law from the strength and supported by angels. Where as the shitter who wanted pure productivity and silence was supported by demons. And then the shitter who just wanted everyone to be happy in a somewhat nice but gay insecure way.

i hate thinking about this because i know it will never be real

Isn't Lucifer only controlled opposition in SMT4/As universe though?

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I assumed that it meant that he was controlled opposition in all universes by nature of him being born from YHVH like other angels, and that no matter what he was ultimately an unwilling pawn to him in the end. I could be wrong on that though.

Only there, not in the other games

I agree, even if at the end it's just a bug with the US version of the game that is not present in any of the many japanese versions, rather than an artistic choice, but I can totally understand that for most people it's an obvious negative aspect of the game.

started it today, was wondering about that. SHIT ton of motion blur. is there a fix?

Sadly Atlus is too afraid of ever breaking tradition for something actually interesting like this to ever happen.

Lovecraft stuff had it's spotlight in the P2 games at least. I really want a figure like Angra Mainyu, Quetzalcoatl, or Asura-O to lead the chaos faction.
Correct. In Megaten each universe is different in how it works. In SMTI/II and Nocturne Lucifer is presented as acting entirely on his own being, while in IV and IV:A he was really just YHVH's tool.
They'll play around with interpretations from time to time in order to explain plot stuff. I feel like Lucifer being a puppet of YHVH in IV:A was just them trying to make it seem like YHVH had more of a role in the plot, in reality he comes out of nowhere near the end and I imagine they felt they needed to justify his existence more.

I fixed it but I don't remember how
Make sure your emulator is up to date i think

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>Devil Survivor
>Digimon
Where did your brain go, user?

Magic getting a lategame buff was great

>Go magic for SMT4
>Was pretty meh

>Go World Of STR in SMT4 Apocalypse
>Get Frenzied chomp early on
>Binding, poisoning, and charms all at once
>Get Panic rounds early in the game
>So many horde fights won by just destroying their turns through bind + charm
>Get charge, critical eye and smile charge later
>Learn about desperate hit, an almighty multi hit skill that works with charge and can be whispered despite being unique.
>Keep that one fucking skill frenzied chomp throughout the entire game until the very end

World of STR a fucking best, I love status effects and I loved destroyed everything. Early game was tough but holy shit once you get chomp you're golden. Let your demons be the heal/mage sluts

>is there a fix?
Yeah, run the game at least 5x the native resolution.

I think that person, like most people who post in these threads, don't actually play these games and just shitpost about them.

Set renderer to OpenGL.
wiki.pcsx2.net/Shin_Megami_Tensei:_Nocturne

Yasuda did the art for the vita digimon games. As I said though, they were on the vita and came after DeSu.

That's the only explanation I could think of as to what that user was trying to imply.

It's not like Atlus is afraid to break tradition, it's just the fact that the higher ups are particular about Tokyo and what not. They had no issue with the conception of Strange Journey, but that's another discussion, for another day. I hope SMT V has more settings than just plain old Tokyo locations. I'd be fine with places like Osaka, or Kyoto as well. They're still in Japan, after all.

Yes; once you reach a certain level, spells start dealing less damage each time you level up.

thanks, I hadn't even thought this motion blur might be an emulation bug until this thread, I started playing around with plugin settings and now everything looks 10 times as good

>magma axis on the one boss that it's useful against
gee you sure showed me
play hardtype if you want to go magic demifiend

Big plump yoohoos

Never.
Phys or Dex is always good as you only need 2-3 skills so rest can be used for buffs/debuffs/healing.

>Ryan

fuck off Tyler

Just be aware that the very first unavoidable battles will be cancer if you're playing Nocturne on hard mode. It becomes a lot more manageable from there on.

Do you have a link for a pre-patched Hardtype? I've tried to do it myself like 5 times but it simply refuses to work .

Depending on how SMT V is set up, I might go a STR/LUCK/AGI build for the MC. I feel like the girl we see in the trailer might just be another heroine, akin to Nemissa or Hiroko for example. I hope we go back to that traditional formula at least. Who knows, though?

This. smt is peak movie theater.

Yeah it really feels like they want to bring heroines back even if it's not as a direct party member, akin to IV/Apocalypse with the partner system.

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Built for _______

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magma axis is good if you have fire boost on Vanilla. It just starts to suck like all other magic spells

SJ was ten years ago, Persona 4 was only a year old and hadn't grown into the monster it became around 2012 or so. The age of Atlus trying new ideas is gone since instead of trying to find something successful like they were trying to do in the ps2 era they struck gold.

Motorboating

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are you sure you're using an unmodified copy of the base game for the patch? it's pretty simple otherwise.

I don't know how to feel about the Partner System. On one hand, you don't have to waste a party slot on them, and they can still be killed in battle. On the other hand however, you can't really control their actions. If the AI were smarter, I wouldn't care as much.

Magma Axis is probably the best spell in the game as it uses hp instead of mp. There's only two reasons magic isn't so great in Nocturne: mp and Lucifer. Refilling mp is not as easy as hp, had physical skills used mp as well it would be just as annoying. As for Lucifer the fight is long but it's not unwinnable with magic, as long as apply the proper buffs and debuffs you can still do decent damage to him even though he resists it.

Kicking out of the party in the name of chaos

Atlus trying out new ideas in their mainline games has nothing to do with Persona's popularity, though. If you mean they struck gold with Persona and have no need to experiment with new spinoff titles, then you'd be correct.

She joins your party again if you don’t kill anyone in the Chaos path, though.

They are something that shouldn't come back really. Based on the SMTV trailer it looks like they may return to having a heroine in your party meaning we'll go back to six member parties instead of four.

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>6 party members
How would they even pull it off? Magnetite is outdated, honestly. On top of that, they'd have to make bosses way more challenging to compensate for how many party members you have. Even furthermore, you'd have way too many press turns. I wouldn't necessarily mind it if pulled off properly though.

MP is easy to refill. You have items, 10 mp to a user, walk, and drain skills. Magic isn't good since the cap and the degradation due to levels makes your damage output not compete with Physical attacks

Easy, don't have press turns and use Soul Hackers combat

>Don't use Press Turns
That's kind of what makes a lot of people appreciate the gameplay of SMT though, user.

I'm definitely naming Flower-Kun after Tsukiyama Shuu.

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They can appreciate something else.

In the older games rarely would you ever actually have a full party honestly, most of the time the optimal thing to do was traverse dungeons with just the hero and heroine while summoning one or two demons for a boss battle so they can apply buffs.

I wouldn't say magnetite is outdated, though I hope it could be a bit better balanced. In older games demons ate up too much magnetite with each step, having them in a dungeon was rarely worth the hassle since they were so weak compared to the humans. If they found a way to have demons feel like real party members while balancing magnetite consumption that would be perfect.

>smt is hard
lmaoing

World of STR

In DDS Demi-fiend is an OP optional boss and he's very much strength-based.

>trailer drops in E3
>"from the creators of Persona"

>Trailer drops E3
>"user is actually Ryan.."
Get out.

Have sex, son of man.

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Oof

yeah magic in the original smt is a real recommendation

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Get on your knees, now

I wanna mating press this monkey

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Same.

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begone, thot

No.

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I'm playing through SMT1 right now so no.

How is this monkey so breedable?

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I dunno, man.

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When this tune plays, I want everyone to die.

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I want to do such unspeakable things to this monkey it would make Lilith blush.

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Lewd.

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Post more Bobo.

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Can I play hardtype on normal without fucking shit up? I like how it actually fixes most the problems with the game but I don’t like quicksaving and loading after every fight in case I get fucked over by RNG or attacked from behind

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yeah
hard mode is annoying hp sponge bullshit so you're not missing much

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Hardtype makes it so HM doesn't have a fixed back attack rate like vanilla. Putting points in Agi/luck (mainly agility) decreases the chance of back attacks, mind eye makes it so back attacks barely happen. But you can play it on normal but the higher exp gain was not made for it, you clear out encounters fast as fuck.

Hard mode doesn't buff HP, the mod does that by itself. How is it spongy? You are way stronger then you would be and expel/death is actually useful now.

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>waifufags
>even worse, bobofags
Hama

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Shame there aren't many Bobo lewds.

There aren’t enough SMT lewds in general.

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Cute dog.

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Commission them

DEX when guns are an option
STR when not

I hate SMT magic for anything other than utility

Reminder that Space Marine is best Protag.

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I didn't get why people did gun builds until I met that fucker Arahabaki in SMT4a and he replled phys and always did makarakarn. Since it bypasses that repel gun is actually amazing and can still crit and hit weaknesses.

That's not Hero

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P3's January is fucking brutal because you know that the world is fucked and you just go to try your luck, neither P5 or much less that shit P4 had something like that althi it is power of friendship

That’s not Bunny.

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Still in tone more with 1 and 2

>The dog ended up being best girl
She starts very annoying but she really grows in you.

Agreed

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God bless his autism

Kek

bump

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I wanna FUCK clotho

I want Clotho to spin my cock

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FUAH

God I wish that were me.

That's not Ryan.

Stop it.

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Seeing as how If... got translated finally and released, how was it? Kinda shocked there's been very little discussion or talk of it.

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Sloth is fucking hell.

I want a chaos jailbait gf

I'm surprised If.. hasn't been considered for a remake, considering it was essentially the birth of the Persona series. I feel like it could be pretty cool.

People seem pretty negative on it, but I can't comment on it myself yet seeing as I haven't gotten to it. I'd like to play it by the end of the year though, and then I can finally play P1 and 2 which I've been putting off because I wanted to wait until if... got translated before I played them.

Playing it now.
Its alright. Seeing how the Guardian system inspire the persona system is interesting

Dungeons are somewhat short, although I didn't want Sloth and Envy going on any longer

>only one real party member
>plot is dark, not really optimistic
>no slice of life shit
>first person dungeon crawling
Why would personafags ever touch it?

They wouldn't , just like they don't touch Persona 1 and 2.

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What are the best settings in PCSX2 in order to emulate this at 60 FPS 1440p?

Maki a best

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She would be, if Elly didn't exist.

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Based taste.

>Only one party member
You still get to choose who you want as a party member out of the students available, though. Each of which have their own route, so it could be appealing.
>Plot is dark
Persona 3 was as well, and it's still loved immensely. No issue here, user.
>No slice of life shit
You got me on this point, but fuck it. They could always add events to the school hub or expand on that if they wanted.
>First person dungeon crawling
They could always blow it up to fully 3D, third person while improving the overall dungeons. No issue here, either.

Ryan

>They could always blow it up to fully 3D, third person
No can do. First person or bust. It's a dying breed.

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...

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*ahem*
FUCK LAW

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Lawfags genocide when?

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Should I play the game with the kamen rider looking guy or the game with the shirtless guy with tribal tattoos on him?
Serious question, I want to play one of these games

>game with the kamen rider looking guy
What MT character looks like Kamen Rider

I think he's talking about Strange Journey. Maybe

I know it doesn't really look like one lol

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Kamen rider guy, it's the overall better game.

That or start with Nocturne on ps2.

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Majin Tensei 1 in english soon lads.

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Strange Journey if you want first person dungeon crawling, Nocturne if you want third person dungeon crawling

Dumb Marines in Antarctica Shooting Demons

Unpopular opinion, romance in mainline SMT would make the world more interesting. There's something really powerful about going through a harrowing journey with a partner and being a guiding force for each other.

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No, fuck off.
They created a whole fucking spin-off for people like you, fuck off.

I started going into other stats because I thought stats capped at 200 and wanted to leave room for Ma increases.

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Based

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>"Let's make mainline about deep emotional connections!"

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I actually agree. I hope the next game has a partner system

I hope for a megaten game in which you and a childhood friend go for a DB Exam and something goes wrong. Demons start infesting the shelter and your friend is raped and killed.

>romance in mainline SMT
Fuck that.

They totally should let you fuck your demons, though.

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Lu/Ag all day long

>Romance
Why do people keep suggesting ideas that don't even remotely fit the tone of SMT, and are better off left for Persona or other spinoffs? Seriously. Stop trying to turn SMT into something it's not.

That's basically Megami Tensei I and II.
With a honorable mention for SH if they weren't such pussies.

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Did you forget about Digital Devil Story? Nakajima and Yumiko? They could do a retelling of that, but it'd be pretty story focused. Fuck multiple romance options though. That's better left for Persona.

Luck builds are so broken with how much they influence your critical hit rate. I like my MC having enough power to carry himself though, just in case the demons get fucked over. That reminds me, I wonder if they'll go back to giving you game over's if the MC dies in particular? It wasn't like that in the IV duology.

>I wonder if they'll go back to giving you game over's if the MC dies in particular?
Should fucking hope so. Didn't like having full party control after P3 either

Final has the MC death = game over on Apocalypse mode

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>2 was translated before 1
but why

I'm playing the 1st one and I don't know how viable anything is so probably not my first time through

I thought that was an app? (Which is retarded)

Fuck bobo, fuck waifufags, and fuck you

Remove press turn
Bring back 6 party member teams

Or fuck, I just want a new core Devil Summoner game.

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Apocalypse is a difficulty mode

Original Devil Summoner translation first fucking when?

Having 6 party members wasn't exclusive to Devil Summoner, you know? SMT 1 & 2 had it as well. I can't see them returning to a party of 6, or removing Press Turn either since its the core of SMT gameplay now. Still, I want a new Devil Summoner.

>The perfect OST doesn't exis-

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I mean like, getting a Game Over when the MC is killed. Could have sworn that was an app, and I'm not sure why it's restricted to an app. Steady casualization..

People that have played it say that supposedly Majin Tensei 1 is incredibly shitty, it's getting a translation because Translator Tom is absolutely based.

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Playing on Apocalypse difficulty does it no matter what. The app lets you have it on lower difficulties

SMT 1 & 2 aren't as fun as Debisama and SH
Plus, as you said, press turn has become a stapple of SMT, so let SMT have it, but do something different with other subseries.

Unfortunately I feel like the experimental side of Atlus is practically over.

Son of Man, am I Kawaii?

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>Fuck bobo
No problem

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No my lord, you're Kawakami

Is luck viable in Nocturne?

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It does literally nothing.

It does jack shit but you can still go for it.

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>Setanta gets to bang this every day

should I play SMT or MT? I don't mind oldschool, and it looks like the english patches for both are decent

Tbh I don't get the point of harder difficulties. You just spend more time grinding

>BA DA DI DONG
>BRRRR BRR BRRR BRRR
youtube.com/watch?v=A6cSbof7Pik

it does next to nothing

SMT is much more playable than MT unless you just like pointless grinds.

I've heard MT II is actually much better than SMT I-II, but I wouldn't know.

youtube.com/watch?v=EcZHm4VllDs

Megami Tensei then SMT. If you play MT1, make sure you look up the extra shit you can get by beating it and going into MT2. Its impossible to find out otherwise.

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You don't need to grind in anything

>grinding
>in sheen megoomi tansai
Most of the fights in these games are solved by better fusions and tactics. Once you start to learn the mechanics, harder difficulties are more fun to play, because it actually forces you to use buffs, resistances, etc to survive. In normal you just steamroll bosses way too fast.

The exception to this is Nocturne hard mode where they decided to make everything more expensive, so you have to grind to buy magatamas, which was gay as fuck. I still like hard mode more, though.

MT II is pretty awesome. Play the SNES remake.

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In harder difficulties? Yeah.

No? What game do you need to grind? Maybe money in Nocturne but that's not exp

Have you tried not grinding

VRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRM
youtube.com/watch?v=N68ulILlZ-E

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Anybody got Asahee?

What's the best stats for Shin Megami Tensei Devil Summoner - Raidou Kuzunoha vs. The Soulless Army? I've been dumping every point into MAG since I heard that it makes your demons stronger.

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Mag lowers the cost for summoning.

Kek.

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>both flynn and tatsuya are made as side characters in their game's sequel
>both are voiced by the same dude
what did atlus mean by this

I want some actual asahi porn. All I got is that armpit picture

>when they use the shitty newer design for cu chulainn that he shares with tam lin instead of the old front forward facing one that looks way cooler

and they still used older demon designs for certain others for some reason

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Not the right armpit picture but this will do. This is pretty good, thanks user. I wish there was more.

This too

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I’ve only dabbled in SMT but whenever I’ve played I tend to try bf distribute my stars evenly and keep everything about the same, should I just be pumping either strength or magic?

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Balance builds do nothing but lower damage output. You simply need to pump STR or MAG and then the other stats

Is it scanned online?

I only use attack

Holy shit this post came out a mess
>I tend to try and distribute my stats evenly

I actually think the submarine sound is very good, makes it all very dreamlike

Is magic/strength better in different games or should I just pump whichever I feel like? I’ve heard a lot of people say strength is the way to go in nocturne, but then what about raidou, DDS, SMT4 etc?

Same. I only attack with my demons too, since I don't want to waste their MP.

>Angra Mainyu
what about majin tensei and nocturne

Depends on the game. In older MT, MC can't use magic so it's STR only as a attack with VIT for defense and INT for negotiation. For all of Nocturne and above (raidou, DDS, etc), MC can use Magic, so it's what you want. Magic is generally better in the early to beginning of midgame while Physical rules lategame.

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I fucking wish

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thanks for the info user, I’ll keep all this in mind when I play again in the future

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Play Hardtype, Pierce also pierces magic resistance there.

>no janties
Disappoint.

You only need it to open a few doors in the third kalpa.

Bruh

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No physical

Look at the absolute state of this thread and all its image dumpers
And things will only get worse until SMTV news
Hope you guys have a lot of patience

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>playing SMT for the gameplay

As opposed to playing it for "waifus"? Yeah.. No thanks.

>MAG
>in a world of STR
it's like you don't even want to punch God(s)

But Harry Potter magic is awful

God fucking stop dragging this FFXIV discord tranny tier drama into these threads. Fuck off back to r/persona

yes

I don't understand this. Why is it that all threads devolve into waifufaggotry spam?
>Because there is nothing else to talk about
So stop making fucking threads then, but what I don't understand is why people on this fucking board are so shallow that all they have on their mind is pixels in the shape of a "woman" that doesn't exist

I tried playing MT1 but I lost my save and decided to skip to SMT1 instead. Never played a first person dungeon crawler before but it's been pretty cool so far, I like the setting and aesthetics. I really wasn't expecting the world to get nuked into oblivion midway through the game either, so that was neat. I want to finish this soon so I can play Nocturne since it seems to be the best one according to Yea Forums.

>Bunny gets top billing
>Abel right there with Raidou and Demifiend
>No Maya
Dammit, I like this but it's a bit strange. Is that V's protag in the middle?

It's Yumiko and Nakajima

Play Strange journey it's also a first person dungeon crawler, but it's got the modern SMT QoL improvements

Strange Journey is absolute nectar

Figured as much

Nah, world of str. Pump that iron.

Fuck off, Ryan

They look so similar to the SMTV protagonists that I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to retell Digital Devil Story in the game's plot.

LADY
LADY
LADY
YOUR EEEEYES

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World of STR is about Nocturne tho

>Nocturne = World of STR
>IV = World of DEX
V will be World of AGI, soon..

I would honestly would be really happen with that

wait is that Maken X's Rei below Serph?

fuck, I meant Kei