Why has XBox Live been going down so often lately, and why won't they admit their service is down? This has happened twice in the past two months, where I've been in the middle of a game and then booted offline for several days. XBox support always tries to blame my ISP, even though every other device works fine.
>be me >last night >play Ark Survival Evolved >blow up some dipshit's raft with rockets >he calls in two of his buddies on Managermrs to take out my turret boat >they stalk me all over the map, but can't get too close because my turrets are set to take out survivors only, and not tames >Mana Guys start trolling in chat, saying they're going to fuck me up >laugh at them >park out in the middle of the water to set up more turrets and craft more rockets >about to place the new turrets >game lags out >kicked completely off XBox Live >can't sign back in >can't sign back in >can't sign back in >know that I'm fucked and about to lose all of my shit, but decide to check on my turret boat in the morning >next morning, still can't sign in >tribe mate messages me on the XBox iPhone app and says that all my shit got destroyed and that I lost everything >tribe mate suspects that those dudes somehow IP sniffed me and DDOS'ed me offline so that I couldn't defend myself >don't believe that theory because all other devices are working fine, only XBox Live is affected
Why the fuck has XBox Live gone to such shit over the past year? There are lots of unreported service outages that they refuse to acknowledge. Why has it gotten so bad and unreliable over the past year?? I lost about two weeks worth of grinding because of their shitty service. I'm pretty sure I could have defended against the manas if I had been able to, you know, stay online and actually defend my turret boat.
reminder that xbox live is the reason every console has paid online now. BASED MICROSOFT
Luis Jenkins
Must be just you user.
Gavin Diaz
Unlike the PSN, the XBL is an actual good service.
Christopher Jackson
>xbox one is hitler WTF I love Xbox now.
Aaron Edwards
Nah, according to downdetector.com, there was a massive spike in outages last night around the time I got kicked off. Not saying that ALL players are affected but it seems to be a wide area of players in the US, Canada, Britain, and France that we're affected. I still can't sign in and it's been over 24 hours. It's XBox and their shitty service.
Juan Jackson
No it isn't, Microsoft shill. It's a shit fucking service that constantly goes down.
Isaiah Roberts
Microsoft forced Sony and Nintendo to have paid online? Isnt that illegal?? Howd they do that?
Luke Rogers
They normalized paid online, and since Nintendo and Sony have shareholders who they are legally obligated to make as much money for as possible, they were essentially forced into making their online play service paid as well. Seeing how XBox succeeded with a paid online service, the companies could have easily been sued by their shareholders for leaving money on the table.
Nathaniel Turner
Wait... so what you're saying is... no one FORCED Sony and Nintendo to do it... and they're not my best friends?
Cameron Cooper
>It's a shit fucking service that constantly goes down. Never seen it down in almost 4 years. That's the PSN.
Benjamin Jones
Snoy detected.
Joseph Scott
>X console hate Are these threads allowed here?
Blatant console war thread.
Nathan Lee
>reminder that xbox live is the reason every console has paid online now Pretty sure ps+ is.
Samuel Hernandez
>They normalized paid online How can they normalise it when only 1 of 3 were doing it? Sony doing it normalised it.
Nicholas Perry
nah xbox live was use by dumb boomer consolewars trash as a beacon of online multiplayer unironically during the 360 gen
Jaxon Kelly
>nah xbox live was use by dumb boomer consolewars trash as a beacon of online multiplayer unironically during the 360 gen Now replace that with ps+ and you have the normalisation of paid online that Sony did this gen. And don't forget that more people own a ps4 than 360s last gen.
Carson King
You are a fucking retard. One Microsoft started doing it, Sony and Nintendo HAD to start doing it or risk being sued by their shareholders. HOW HARD IS THAT TO FUCKING UNDERSTAND, YOU MONGOLOID?
Parker Clark
Nothing but falseflags in this thread.
Joshua Morgan
>make a cool nazi xbox >xbox hate thread I'm so confused right now
Nolan Wood
>One Microsoft started doing it, Which is absolutely irrelevant. One company doing something doesn't normalize it. >Sony and Nintendo HAD to start doing it or risk being sued by their shareholders. Also wrong, Nintendo in particular would have had it on the Wii U if that were the case but oh look, it's free. Guess Nintendo was sued 10 times over until last year huh. Sony on the other hand made PS plus in the first place because they were failing. When it didn't work as the monthly game service they intended it to be they slapped it on as a paid service with the ps4.
And why in the ever loving fuck would a shareholder even sue the company they're getting money from?
Cooper Powell
nah change your isp then faggot
Evan Brooks
Are you fucking stupid it's down right now
Brandon Thompson
Pretty sure it was Xbox live sweetie
Also this thread is a bunch of bullshit
David Cook
No its not.
Wyatt Robinson
>had to do it or risk being sued by their shareholders Christ you're stupid, where is your citation faggot? You think Sony would 0ass up easy money out of the kindness of their hearts? Fucking fanboys.
Jaxson Parker
Yes it is.
Anthony Ward
Dumb fucking faggot doesn't know how corporate laws work. Corporations are legally obligated to make as much money for their shareholders as possible. If there is a possibility of making money, and they don't do it, they are legally fucked and WILL be sued by their shareholders.
Aaron Gonzalez
Not exactly. XBL existed first, sure but it was Sony that made it more than just this weird thing Microsoft did. Especially since they paraded it as a sign of quality despite the fact that its still just as unstable as it was on ps3 meaning even more would be interested in this premium product. There's a reason why PS+ was the only one that was actively defended unironically.
Anyway to sum up MS started it, Sony made it a standard.
Xbox live was based when it first came out. I owned every console back then and the online was th4 best of any console ever by far. I still dont mind paying. I pay on average $30 a year and get dozens of free games.
Jose Gonzalez
You obviously weren't around when xbox live launched. I played the early days of both and playstation online was terrible. There wasnt even an ethernet port
Well you sure did prove me wrong with that whole bunch of nothing.
>There wasnt even an ethernet port Which system are you even talking about?
Blake Gomez
It was so bad i skipped every online playstation game and used it for single player exclusives. I did play final fantasy xi and would be in box party chat playing our ps2s.
Jackson Martinez
were you not alive during x360 days or something jesus christ the state of this board
David Miller
Actually Sega was the first console manufacturer to have paid online. You had to pay $25/month for Dreamcast multiplayer.
Grayson Barnes
>Constantly goes down. [citation needed] 11 years and counting on XBL, playing damn regularly and I can count the number of major outages on one hand.
LOL the Dreamcast. The console that pretty much put Sega out of business because nobody bought it.
Xavier Foster
The only time I can remember it going down was around boxing day 2014, and that only lasted like one day. If I also remember correctly PSN was down for like a week during the same time.
Alexander Adams
Learn how to read you dumb faggot. This took place in America you fucking retard.
Anthony Bailey
>If I also remember correctly PSN was down for like a week during the same time A week every month. And it still happens, though that might just be the system itself because it can't run most games without crashing
Jaxson Sullivan
I dont see Sony there, am I mistaken? Where does it say that sony had no choice but to do paid online against their will, I'm having trouble seeing your exact words in this article
Snoygoys now shilling BC like it matters only now that Sony wants to do it for PS5. Bunch of fucking trannys
James Morris
>This took place in America you fucking retard. Oh wow I didn't notice that despite very clearly mentioning this in my previous post! I guess I'll just have to concede that two JAPANESE companies working under JAPANESE law have to abide by America's laws.
Austin Rivera
462913086 Imagine being this consumed by consolewars t. idortchad
Samuel Reed
It was the Saturn that killed Sega. Pissed off consumers for dying so early, pissed off devs for being a bitch to program on, and pissed off Sega of America because Sega of Japan kept it a secret from them until it was near launch. The Dreamcast actually sold pretty well for the first couple of years, but it was over when the PS2 launched.
Isaiah Rogers
You do realise that you're still replying to him, correct?
Gabriel Baker
Consider this, nigger: If Xbox Live is constantly down, then how did those fags destroy all of your things in your shitty online game? If everybody else can connect to Xbox Live, why does it NEED to be a problem on Microsoft's end, and not yours? Does the thought of having a shitty ISP hurt your feelings?
Zachary Stewart
>pissed off devs for being a bitch to program on That's not really much of an issue all things considered. I mean, just look at the PlayStations.
Aiden Gonzalez
Sony casualized gaming forever with playstation. Also, Dreamcast sold poorly in Japan so yeah.
Benjamin Sullivan
No dude. Halo on original Xbox set it in stone. Halo 2 set up everything thing that would be the Xbox dashboard. Microsoft did this
Adrian Ross
They have to follow American corporate law you dumb fuck.
Levi Roberts
I clearly said it didn't go down for literally everyone.
Austin Rodriguez
You do realise you can't even buy their stocks outside of japan, right.
Samuel Bell
You're a fucking moron, dude. There are pockets of outages that happen routinely. This can affect thousands of players, but not the entire player base.
Bentley Diaz
Sure. But Sony made it a standard and appealed to more of the idiot masses.
Carson Rogers
The Saturn was basically a genesis with two cpus glued together. Its not comparable at all.
It actually didn't sell to bad, after the first few months I think it was 1 million to America's. The only reason they decided to go all in on American was because they hired Xbox's former CEO who almost destroyed the brand and thought more means better. And Sony wasn't responsible for casuals, that was the Wii combined with the rise of mobile gaming and Facebook shit like farmville.
Adrian Butler
PC is better in every way, I can't remember the last time I was affected by a Steam outage.
Levi Murphy
LOL get better internet fuck boy.
Benjamin Diaz
So it just hurts your feelies to have a shitty ISP?
Hunter Gonzalez
So then why do foreign companies buy stock in American companies all the time?
Kayden Morris
>So then why do foreign companies buy stock in American companies all the time? Maybe because they're buying American stock where that restriction doesn't exist? Are you retarded or something or do you not realise that different parts of the world have different laws?
Asher Rodriguez
Peter Moore was at Sega before Xbox existed though. But yea Sony casualized gaming 100%. I lived it
Jason Morris
How does that matter? Japanese law forbids foreign companies from owning any part of a Japanese company.
Levi Garcia
Completely irrelevant argument that you're pulling out of your ass because you can't admit that you are both wrong and retarded.
Both Sony and Nintendo have American divisions and have to follow American Corporate Law. Sony Of America. Nintendo Of America. You are a dumb fuck that is probably 13 years old and has never seen a vagina that wasn't your mom's, grandma's, or sister's.
Dumb fuck doesn't know how buying shares works.
Andrew Allen
Yes, you're right. My internet is totally down. That's why I'm talking to you.... on the internet.... right now.
Nathan Hernandez
>Peter Moore was at Sega before Xbox Yeah that's what I meant, I just phrased it awkwardly. But I disagree with you on Sony. What's your argument?
Julian Miller
>Both Sony and Nintendo have American divisions and have to follow American Corporate Law Key word, divisions. As in not the company proper and they don't have their own stocks that can be traded in America and thus are exempt from and trading laws.
Nice try buddy.
Chase Watson
THEY HAVE AMERICAN SUBSIDIARIES YOU DUMB FUCKING RETARD. Americans sure as fuck can buy shares in Sony Of America and Nintendo Of America. You fucking complete moron. Holy fuck.
Lincoln Brown
You don't know how corporations work, prepubescent teenager. They ARE essentially different companies. SOA and NOA are both incorporated in America, and SOJ and NOJ own the majority of shares. They are technically not Japanese companies in that regard. You are retarded as fuck.
Jackson Price
Nearly doubled the next highest console ever sold up to that point. It literally brought normies on board. I'm not attacking Sony. It was a huge success.
Jonathan Kelly
And? A Japanese company can own an American company just fine. If they decide they want to play Texas hold em on wall street, that's only from their own greed, not the law.
Anthony Thomas
No way. Halo did that. Don't followed suite but it was cemented by Halo absolutely
Samuel Robinson
I see that more coming from the exponential rise in video gaming's popularity, Sony being a better known brand in the electronics space and their support for Europe compared to Nintendo.
Isaac Bailey
Just because everything can connect to the internet doesn't mean your Xbox can connect to Xbox live, I used to have the very same problem, you fucking idiot.
Jackson Cox
Haven't had a problem in over a year at least with Xbox live. Get better connection
Levi Cruz
I've seen this argument that MS is to blame while paying the big blue man and blaming the bigger green man. Sony isn't your friend, they're charging you because they can get away with it and you are just the living example.
Joshua Wright
Legitimately kill yourself, the massive success of the Halo franchise and the 360 are what normalized paid online and caused Sony and Nintendo to adopt it you contrarian dipshit
Jose Cook
Snoys on suicide watch
Luis James
>underaged moron alert Get fucked kid
Andrew Bailey
>How can they normalise it when only 1 of 3 were doing it? by convincing enough paypigs to pay for it.
Nathaniel Ramirez
Yeah but Sony being a known good brand played a part in video games becoming so popular. That's kind of my point. Everyone wanted a Sony tv back then.
Zachary Brown
That was Sega you fucking pleb.
Brayden Nguyen
i personally refuse to pay for online from any of the big three, and i blame microsoft because they're the ones who started it.
Thomas Fisher
the dreamcast had free online, zoomer. you can thank xbox live for making paid online an industry standard.
Jordan Lopez
I guess it depends on your definition of casual. To me, casuals are someone who buys a console with secondary features in mind or who game develops intentionally make mechanics more appealing toward. I don't think the PS1's library suffered from having a large install based, I'd argue the reverse is true for the PS2.