So what's the deal with these games? Are they all blasphemous...

Same reason P1, P2, DeSu and Summoner is there. They like to pretend the games are SMT

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Kek

>what are you even doing in this den of liars and thieves?
If you browse Yea Forums, /his/, or /pol/ you'll get the impression that Yea Forums is majority devout Christian

>Mastema said:

lel

Name a better OST

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I can’t

digital devil saga's OST is better, but not by much

>/pol/
>Christian
No true Christian would allow that much hatred into their hearts. Not to mention the blind dedication to political parties which obviously pander to the richest people on Earth.

sorry more like catholics

What's the implication here

History says otherwise

DeSu is pretty damn SMT, user. You deal with the end of the world as demons and angels go at war

Tokyo warms my soul. I wish the costume DLC in P5 replaced the Mementos track with it

>Are they all blasphemous?
The fuck is with people RP'ing as christians and any derivative of them on here?

I'm a jew and even don't care. It's just god, what males him so special?

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These boards are full of mentally ill retards. Their reasons never make any sense.

that sounds pretty Christian too me

>I'm a jew
lol

I don't think the average /pol/ poster has more hate in their hearts than the average person, and no saying black people are less intelligent or Jews run the media doesn't make you "hateful."

>and no saying black people are less intelligent or Jews run the media doesn't make you "hateful."
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>I don't think the average /pol/ poster has more hate in their hearts than the average person
>saying black people are less intelligent or Jews run the media doesn't make you "hateful."
user, I'm not sure why you'd defend that vile board, but there's no way anyone that believes that garbage is a sane individual.

Are you retarded?

Lucifer is final boss in SMT3. YHWH my ass.

Do your party members in SMT1 level their stats automatically or do you do them manually like with your main character? Been planning to give it another go but I think I need to get a better understanding of the stats before I start it up again.

are you delusional?

>Gateway Games

cause Raidou somehow isn't a "gateway game". every MT game is a gateway game.

an impeccable argument straight from the /pol/ handbook

>Persona 1, 2, & 3 protagonist
Uh, why are they there?

Ah yes, /pol/shitters are brainless as usual. Take your seething ass back, Ryan.

No, I don't post on /pol/.
You distribute their stats. Fr the characters the suggested builds are as follows.

>Hero
Focus on STR and VIT with a bit of AGI. Also make sure to get his INT to 12, this makes negotiations easier and after this you won't need to worry about that stat.
>Law Hero
Focus on MAG and AGI with a bit of VIT
>Chaos Hero
Focus on STR and VIT, he has magic but it's weaker then the Law Hero's so just use him for physical attacks.
>Heroine
Same as Law Hero, focus on MAG and AGI with a bit of VIT.

I can't believe it. Lawfags can't even get along with each other. How absolutely disgusting.

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That is very helpful, thank you.

Still not SMT

Fucking based

Do you hate your dog even though you accept that it is less intelligent than you?

My dog isn't a person.

YHVH isn't presented as the absolute God that Christians worship - Typically Christ is dissociated from him and attached to a more archetypal Cosmic Will. YHVH is presented as an imperfect demiurge.

However, you can be comfortable playing them by either donning the Armor of God and allowing yourself not to be swayed or simply approach it from the view of examining another culture's interpretation of global spirituality. It's a fiction that uses mythological and religious narratives as storytelling devices.

Why are Persona 1, 2, Soul Hackers and DeSu there?

You mean Kagatsuchi who is a aspect of God. Lucifer is only a boss on one route

SMT is probably less blasphemous than FF. YHVH in SMT is shown as a controlling dick, but you can still join him if you want. Meanwhile, Final Fantasy outright loathes its gods.

>How are Western audiences supposed to feel comfortable
I doubt most Westerners are even Christians, and I've seen Christians and or Catholics say they've played these games with no issue before. It's fucking fiction, user.
>Summon demons and kill YHWH over and over?
YHVH has only appeared twice in the mainline. Once in SMT II back in 1994, which didn't even release outside of Japan, and just recently in Apocalypse. Nobody gave a shit, whatsoever either. God's get killed in JRPG's, all the time.

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why are there 2 versions of 4?

i wanna fuck nemissa

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They're different games, Apocalypse is 90% re-used assets, but it's still a different game. A lot of MegaTen games do have two or even three versions though, but that's just how ATLUS being ATLUS.

To cut the explanation down short
>The writer for the base version of IV, Kazuma Kaneko, wrote a story so long for the game, that a lot of the plot had to be cut
>A good portion of the plot was repurposed into Apocalypse, a downright different game with it's updated gameplay mechanics, and overall changed story
Think of it as like, SMT IV: Side B. It's essentially the same universe, but it's also a "what if" scenario where the MC of said game, Nanashi chooses to be revived instead of die.

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YHVH is not the true god you dumb shits.

Mating press Nemissa!

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>blasphemous
yhwh's a faggot who watches little children undress and take showers and watches you while you furiously masturbate to one of your favorite torah verses.
everyone should feel comfortable slaying that mutilated bastard storm god of war in any game because there are hundreds upon thousands of other gods that are available at any time who are not on the over-inflated-ego-trip that yhwh seems intent on following through by proclaiming the necessity of murdering all the other followers of virtually any other god besides himself

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They're very blasphemous, including their imagery. Western audiences aren't typically religious so it shouldn't be much of an issue.

The deities in FF are not quasi-identical to the most popular deity and divine figures in the most practiced religion in the West.

This series is more political, than religiously blasphemous. SMT I is literally about WW2, and has a demon named "Thorman", disguising himself as a U.S general, and nuking Japan to stop the demon invasion. Ironically, that's probably why we'll never get an SMT I remake.

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He's the god described in Judeo-Christian mythology. The Axiom belongs to no faith or following if you're refering to that.
She's mine.
>They're very blasphemous
Not really, the physical depictions of figures are never made to be offensive.

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You mean mine

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Based, Atlus side with the Nazis

You're literal brain dead retards, nothing is hateful about pointing literal facts about intelligence research or media conglomerate board member composition and the fact that you're trying to portray it as unchristian makes you look like literal 13 year olds from resetera. It's also blatant concern trolling considering you probably hate Christians regardless. I always thought the "summerfag" thing was a myth but people as dumb as you literally don't show up most the year.

By not being a faggy ass protestant
That's why

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Gotou, the ultra nationalist general on Yukio Mishima, is presented as just as batshit insane though.

Keep seething, Ryan. Maybe /pol/ will listen to your argument? We sure as hell don't care in here.

>pointing literal facts about intelligence research or media conglomerate board member composition
Isn't the media run by the jews? Why would you believe that shit? What makes you so sure there's no bias or lies there?

I don't know who Ryan is
You literally have a double digit IQ

Based

>You literally have a double digit IQ
That isn't an argument. How do you know the information you take in isn't biased?

I think it's just a cool interpretation and consolidation of the worlds mythology into one tight game. I found I became more tolerant of other peoples religious beliefs after playing them and doing some more research. It's kind of fascinating how the worlds creation myths and mythologies are similar.

>How do you know the information you take in isn't biased?
All information is biased, I don't understand the obsession with trying to find an unbiased new source. I try not to pay attention to news anyway as it's a waste of your time and attention.

>My dog isn't a person.

neither are niggers

Agreed, that's why those studies about blacks being dumb is just lies (:

Scientific studies aren't conducted by media conglomerates, you do understand that, right?

My kitties are good and less intelligent than me.
They're allowed to shit all over the house, because they're cute and lovable.
I also pay for their food.
Why do u hate paying for a nigger's food, and why do u get mad when Pajeet shits in the street?

Well on the surface the series looks like the definitive fedora tipping edglords cum stained boxers wet dream only making the Fatlus meme more funny but its not really going out of its way to take a hard shit on religion, philosophes and all that, its more so just playing with the ideas

>move the goalposts
>user still makes the kick
>"This game is stupid anyway."
This is the /pol/tard accusing people of double digit IQ?

What about the studies that claim they are as smart as whites?

>All this /pol/faggotry
Definitely Ryan.

I never moved the goalposts and you're a redditor samefag
You don't understand the argument you're trying to make. Point me to the studies that make this claim.

You're literally a schizophrenic retard

Imagine being this delusional. Oh wait forgot you think P5 is good

Why did they make mementos have such terrible music?

Thought so

>lucifer refers to you as son of man
wait wut

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So who the fuck is Ryan?

Some autist who's going on a single-man crusade on getting rid of SMT threads, I guess. Just don't give any attention to him, that's what he wants.