Hollow Knight

We already did back when it came out.

anyone else get a weird feeling that whenever you play a game Yea Forums starts talking about it?

i don't get why and i feel really scared about it but it happens ALL the fucking time.

it's recently happened with borderlands (pre-3 announcement), dragon's dogma, and now this game. it's borderline spooky, dude.

Yeah, big swords being a strong weapon class in S&S is part of it, the other part being that using big slow weapons with large range is good in 2D sidescrollers to maximise the power of your single jump attack. Did it a lot in the Sorrow Castlevania games.

People talk about Dragon's Dogma constantly

Unwarranted anxiety. See a therapist if it causes problems in the actual world.

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You are being effected by the same marketing everyone else here is effected by. (DD switch port, BL3 rumors)

fuck dude this shit's seeping into my GAMES now? i'm a goddamn anxiety bomb.

There's some term for this, but it's really just you noticing threads about the game now that you're aware of it. You just weren't noticing them before because you didn't care about the game.

I want to buy this cheap

>t. artlet
This game and it's artstyle are legitimately great. It's the only soulslike not made by FromSoft, 2d or 3d, that was able to scratch my souls itch.

>Comparing a masterpiece to a Newgrounds flash reject
Fuck off

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>is LITERALLY 2D dark souls
There you have it.

>and it's artstyle are legitimately great.
no way dude

Because Yea Forums's first love was Super Metroid and Hollow Knight is way closer to Super fucking Metroid than the other game.

>hollow knight
>masterpiece

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*ahem*

I've played both Hollow Knight and Salt and Sanctuary, and SAS is far better in pretty much every way. Nicer looking artstyle, better combat, better world design, and actual functional controls. This board is full of plebs that wouldn't know a great game if it took a shit directly on the hood of their car, so it's no surprise Hollow Knight gets more attention

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>Yea Forums doesn't like S&S
Holy shit off yourselves

Might as well play Demon's sperm.

>shit art
>muh darksouls
>shit name
Stay mad faggot.

Looks like a rip-off Flash game that would have been at home on Newgrounds in 2008.

>bought the game very recently out of a random whim to play with my bro
>this thread appears
What the fuck.

>shit name
stupid complain desu

Based as fuck user. Good to see another man of culture has entered the thread

Just to be clear, the replies talking about how good the artsyle is are bait right?

We all played it while waiting for dark souls 3

ugly character art, looks like something out of a goth/emo middle schooler's binder

forgettable and kind of annoying

>Hollow Knight
>is nothing like dark souls
How are Hollowfuckers this delusional

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Outside of the death penalty is nothing like dark souls.

You compare it to flash games as if that's some kind of insult. Flash games were the amazing. They were the best place to find genuinely soulful games during the dark ages of the 7th generation when console devs were all making puke brown military shooters.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
Hundreds of games get discussed here on a daily basis. You're probably only taking mental notes when they align with your play time.

>flash reject
Reading comprehension retard

Just wish there was a storage. Makes it hard to obsessively collect everything. Also fuck the bestiary being area specific.

Yes

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Absolutely not. When I first played through this game I unironically loved the artstyle, and I still think it's great. The game genuinely has a bleak and salty look to it. It's the only non-from soulslike that gets the dreamlike dark fantasy atmosphere right. The only thing I'd criticize is the character faces, which are a bit strange looking at first, but are kind of an acquired taste.

Nevermind the shitty artstyle on the characters, but some of the boss designs like the Queen of Smiles genuinely unnerved me.

>Newgrounds flash reject
Hollow Knight is overrated, but that's pretty harsh.

>NG+
>two hits means death right? well I guess I'll avoid getting hit twice then haha
>tfw witch of the lake

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I don't know why they choose to make the characters look like lemmings m8.

I think sony threw money into this game to help the developers, it's seems that instead of improving the visuals they just made more content.
and that's a good thing!

What a terrible thread.
These two games deserve to be discussed in their own threads, not to have this shitshow of a shitflinging bait thread that just ends up insulting boath and promoting further shitposting.
Every day i'm more disappointed in all of you and just how little of a shit you all give about video games.

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I tried playing it but it just didn't interest me. I got to the Cthulhu boss then didn't continue. Feels like I'm playing an old Newgrounds game.

its because when you dont play them you subconsciously ignore those threads

>Doesn't add anything interesting to the thread
>thinks he has some kind of moral high ground
>pointless and stupid image
Probably the worst reply I saw today.

Fucking this

>whips out Starscheifer and slaps ever possible buff on it with the stone charm and quick attack charm
Nothing personnel

id say its closer to bloodbornes death mechanic, but even then it isnt quite the same. and beyond the 'exploring a dead kingdom' thing, i dont really see many similarities between the two.

>boath

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Hollow Knight get getting updates and DLC, Salt and Sanctuary didn't, so it slipped from public consciousness. Apart from some ports for S&S, but who cares about that.

They're both good. And Ska has had The Dishwasher games in the past, which still hold up beautifully. No idea what the fuck they're up to now.

Because salt and sanctuary isn't as well thought out and it shits on anyone who doesn't grind for 300 hours. Love that game but seriously I always get bored before I finish it.

Probably cause sns looks like a sega genesis game. Also when something is THAT derivative you start asking why not just play the real thing

Genuinely the reason I haven't picked it up and I know that it's irrational but it's so fucking ugly.

At least it feels unique in a deviant art sort of way. The faces are silly, but all the other art is pretty good IMO.

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>Dragon's Dogma
Yea Forums has been talking about DD for years before it was even remotely cool.

hollow knight is popular on reddit

Inspiring creativity vs creative bankruptcy.

>grind for 300 hours
What? No seriously, what?

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kek.
how do you fuck up this badlee?

>inspiring creativity
what did he mean by this?

I absolutely loved this game.
Wish the Vita version had multiplayer

Why the fuck is nioh 70 GB?

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Come on now, Hollow Knight isn't creatively bankrupt, it's just poorly executed with shit controls that make the game nearly unplayable

Honestly looks like a parody of deviantart.

I love both if you disagree you consider an hero.

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10gb of game, 60gb of disappointment

it's because Yea Forums is actually populated by bots and the site looks at your recent history to recommend you stuff just like youtube and google

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>not only admitting to having shit taste x2, but also being proud of it

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Hollow Knight is one of the worst fucking games I've ever played.
I understand that the dev team are new and I completely fucking get how they fucked up so much shit

But one thing just baffles me, did they not let beta testing happen? Why the fuck is a game, based around a large amount of platforming with incredibly fucking high damage, using fucking weight systems for their jump distance.
You go above 25% weight and each fucking jump it's "remove all armor + weapon, now jump, repeat for next platforming section".

Not to mention the entire concept of "lolz you got hit by an enemy off screen while jumping so now you fall and die KEK TOP TIER"

Plus everything is more or less OP except some utter shit things like slow hitter weapons or whips

Can you just fuck off, Mulanafag?

Not only do you have zero clue what you're talking about, but you also have shit taste.

I had this on the Vita which says a lot as I thought P4G was the only game I ever bought for it until I remembered just now. The art style and animation really bring it down and come together in a way I'd describe as awkward and wonky, and you can't stop noticing it. Of course it's not flash game tier since the content and depth in it outshine almost every flash game, but it feels a bit like you're playing one. The real main gripe is that Souls doesn't work well in 2D, since exploration becomes much less interesting and it relies too heavily then on the other elements (where S&S isn't strong enough to match). If you really liked Hollow Knight though, I suppose give it a try.

SaS is a metroidvania?

How in the fuck does Hollow Knight have shit controls? They're practically perfect. In fact they're arguably too perfect since they sacrifice momentum for precision, which is great for any content that's remotely challenging but can make movement a bit less satisfying than something like SotN.

user, most people beat Salt and Sanctuary in like 15 hours

Who?

It's 2d Dark Souls with some secret areas and alternative routes. Some obstacles requires a powerup to travel across. Take that as you will.

Looks like a human Pepe

yeah, it's a 2d action platformer with RPG elements and mobility upgrades for defeating bosses.

Hollow Knight has no weight and none of these problems, are you high on ass hair, buddy?

*ahem*

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He apparently confused the names, because that fits SnS more appropriately.

Fuck this shit, Yea Forums is dead

Whoospie
meant S&S
here

is there anyway to turn off the god awful sound effect when you get hit in Hollow Knight? hate how it mutes out the music and everything.

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This is literally the reason it is completely unheard of and not discussed

HK has a tone that is very much like Dark Souls, which is only further reinforced by having the death penalty Dark Souls popularized.
HK definitely has a distinct identity from Dark Souls aside from that, unlike SnS which does everything it can to be 2d Dark Souls Metroidvania. But saying HK is nothing like Dark Souls is silly.

The lack of momentum makes the controls feel like shit to anyone who's played actual good platformers. Also, jumping fails to work at inopportune times. Often, I would run at an edge to jump, hit the jump button, and the bug dude straight up doesn't jump. He just walks straight off the cliff into the abyss. Also, see I can't fully put my finger on why it has shit controls other than the above, but they just feel off somehow. Platformers are one of my favorite genres and I've probably played 100+ in my life. And when I started up Hollow Knight, something just felt wrong. I was failing to make the simplest of jumps I could make in pretty much any other game. The controls were the primary reason I dropped the game and didn't play beyond the first couple hours.
Anyone who thinks Hollow Knight is better than S&S is the one with shit taste

got filtered by mantis lords, huh?

Not sure if I got that far or not. It's not any one specific boss or encounter that made me quit, it was just the generally cumbersome controls and physics.

The soundtrack is great,I specially like the last boss theme and the theme that leads to the final battle. Not a big fan of the art but it grows on you eventually..or not.

>Anyone who thinks Hollow Knight is better than S&S is the one with shit taste
Sales, critical acclaim and the fact that HK is getting a sequel and Soi and Sanctuary isn't say otherwise.

>Everything literally looks like an early 2000's era stick figure

Yeah, just don't get hit

using logic like this leads to conclusions like
>titanic is one of the greatest movies of all time

Oh yeah, on second thought, I actually do remember the moment I decided to quit. It wasn't an enemy encounter at all. It was a point where you had to jump across a bunch of platforms. The game kept making my character walk right off the ledge even when I definitely pressed A before my feet left the ledge. The cumbersome controls were a bigger problem for me than any enemy.
> Sales numbers and acclaim by corrupt, trend-riding journalists make a game great
> t. retard
All it proves is that normies once again have no taste.

S&S is alright, but fuck whoever thought the Tree of Men was good design. It's a worse version of Bed of Chaos but implemented in a 2D manner. Why the fuck?

This game is my jam. Have over 100 hours in it. So many builds. Shame the multiplayer was only local.

even worse than BoC? how is that possible?

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>ugly artstyle
>obnoxiously dull level design
>terrible enemy & boss visual designs, looks like they were made by someone with the creativity of a middle schooler
>terrible music
>choppy, low budget animations that aren't satisfying at all
>uninspired lore, zero reason to read item descriptions like you would in Souls gamed
I'll agree with other anons, they do a good job with the mechanics but when everything is absolutely horrid then there is little reason to play it.

kino ending, too bad most of Yea Forums never got to it because they're BAD at VIDEOGAMES.

user... You are describing Hollow Knight, right? Because most of these apply to HO more than S&S

I’m with ya my dude.

>Hollow Knight
>ugly artstyle
>terrible enemy & boss visual designs
>terrible music
You are genuinely fucking delusional. I don't care if you don't like the art, the designs, and the music but they are EASILY superior to Salt and Sanctuary in every way. Particularly the art and designs, you are delirious.

That game has been talked about before countless times but you only start noticing it after you've played.
You must really be an underage retard if you are really asking that question.

Salt and Sanctuary is significantly better than hollow knight. Hollow knight was dogshit compared to Salt.

Uhh, like one of the easiest bosses in the game. Are you that bad?

I agree that S&S is the true 2D Dark Souls but it has to be said HK evoked an atmosphere that almost nearly perfectly captured the original feeling of the original Dark Souls. More so than any other Soulslike or even both DS2 and DS3.

That being said, play S&S you fucks. It has godly couch coop.

Well
About half of the floor is a death pit. The other half is patrolled by feet of this boss and they can knock you down into a death pit.
There are some platforms above. Platforms are splashed with flamethrowers every few seconds. Boss can also attack you on platforms, though, to be fair, with huge telegraphs.
You must climb the platforms and hit boss weakpoints that are moving in the air near the platforms. They are not always easily reachable, even with longer weapons. You might want to jump and attack them mid-air, but at this point you don't have double jump, so you'll likely take some fall damage. You might also get knocked down into a death pit after a fall.
It might get stressful. I personally like like this boss for interesting design, but dropping into insta-death pits can be frustrating. No other boss have death pits or outright insta-kill moves, even Witch of the Lake, as someone will mention her here at some point.

The difference is, Hollow Knight was *LIKE* Dark Souls, in that it understood what Dark Souls was trying to achieve, and converted that to a 2D space. It borrowed enough to be reminiscent of Dark Souls but did enough of its own thing to be able to take what Dark Souls did and port it into a new space in a way that felt both intentionally homagenous but also original.

Salt and Sanctuary was *like* Dark Souls in that it was a straight rip-off, and it did what it had to do to be like Dark Souls regardless of what that meant for the game, good or bad.

>That being said, play S&S you fucks. It has godly couch coop.

This.
I hate playing Salt and Sanctuary solo but it's coop was legitimately great.

It's because there's so much happening on Yea Forums at any given moment, so many people commenting on so many things, that any patterns you notice are purely confirmation bias.

it's like staring into a television tuned to snow, or staring at celing tiles. You stare long enough, you'll start to see things that might or might not actually be there.

As other's have mentioned, it's the art I dislike. I feel kind of shitty dismissing the gameplay because of that, but I never really had all the much an interest to begin with considering I've played so much of From's games and they're superior in most ways.

>literally LIKE dark souls
>says LIKE dark souls

>dark souls -1 dimension
>waste a thread on a lesser dark souls

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Since this is the 2D """Soulslike""" thread.

Is Death's Gambit any good lads?

>BROOOO
what the fuck kind of ESL bullshit is this

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Some bosses are neat but all in all it's a very soulless experience.

>mulanafag still causing ass hurt among the hollow cucks even though he is gone.

>normies
Nice reddit slang

Mediocre. It has some cool boss ideas though, like mentioned.

Except that titanic is a movie, you know an actual art form with some kind of integrity.
In the games world $$$ made directly influences how good a game is because the industry as a whole is just a soulless machine designed to take your money.

It is. It's excellent in every category, only reason you wouldn't like it is if it's too difficult for you (lol) or you just don't like metroidvania.

Hollow knight is sort of its own thing. Salt and sanctuary was built to leech off of dark souls 3 hype

>Dark atmosphere
>Story that takes place in a dead kingdom
>A struggle between light and dark
>Return to point of death to recollect currency
>Creators talked about Dark Souls being a major reason the game exists at all
>HOLLOW Knight.

Yeah, there's clearly nothing to do with dark souls at all. Why do you people even do this?

>>Creators talked about Dark Souls being a major reason the game exists at all
lmao what?