P4 thread

>but the random encounters turn me off
do you not play JRPGS?

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I would suggest watching the few story segments it has on youtube instead of actually playing it.
There's no payoff whatsoever, it just hints at the events of the main quest which you've probably aready played.

P1 has a really bad encounter rate. There's a point where it becomes a chore.

Played them since I was still a wee lad, and I hated the mechanic even back then. I couldn't even finish P2 at first because of the encounter rate and my autism requiring me to step on every tile to fill in the map.

>no P1/P2 remake
But why?

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Best boys.

Playing it right now, pretty good
What the fuck is the kama palace supossed to represent ? Or is it spoiler? Just defeated the queen

Atlus autism. The people who didn't work on those games don't feel they have the right to mess with someone else's work

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But the P1 remake is just fine as it is.

>P1 and P2 get ported to the PSP with updated graphics
>only part 1 of P2 makes it to america
>the psp version of P2 has extra shit and carry over content
still salty.

There is no P1 remake.

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LIVE IN BURIED MEMORIES

>P1 ps1 final boss theme
youtube.com/watch?v=IUjcsNDVCLc
>P1 psp final boss theme
youtube.com/watch?v=NR8bEpjr_4c

How do you fuck up this badly?

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WITH A FEAR RIDDEN SELF CONSCIOUSNESS

Reminder that Kandori is the best human antagonist in the Persona series.

I'M JUST LONE PRAYER

The second game in P2 had a fucking map creation sidequest with the best personas in the game behind it. And they had the audacity to make every dungeon after that a wide, cavernous area.

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>game gives you 4 party members
>you gain a 5th one later
>can choose from 5 characters
>once one is selected they stay in your party
>game doesn't inform you of this permanence
Of course I would end up getting brown as he's the first guy you come across and to hell with trying to get the boxer.

>Reminder that Kandori is the best human antagonist in the Persona series.
excuse me

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>those screams of horror
>along with that one goofy scream
I liked 1's somewhat horror or surreal vibe it had going since the start, the PS1 OST was good for that

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>human

Based

Its okay , the nips almost lynched him for it

youtube.com/watch?v=2YsFh8hGFM8

I'd kill for a game with this as a main theme and a few dozen arrangements throughout it.

This meme of ironically liking P1 isn't funny.

>EPP and debisama still not translated
What's taking so long, it's gotten to the point where ...if has been translated due to people pressuring the dude sitting on it via competition.

My first Persona a few years ago. It wasn't a great game or anything, but I enjoyed it (except for the fact that murdering all enemies with a single spell would cause huge level disparity, and the grid system often making it so at least one character was useless). The dungeons were nothing special, but all Persona games have bad dungeons. I really liked the music (played the PSX version), the dark tone, and the whole reality gone mad thing. It disappointed me that most of the other games don't really do that, though Persona 5 did at the very end, which was cool, I just preferred it lasting the entire game. I also enjoyed the two Persona 2s.

Chiaki did nothing wrong

Who did you guys choose as the fifth member of your party?

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it would expose Hashino being a hack to wider audiences

based and PCpilled
Persona 1 for PC is free on Archive.org

Elly , she seemed the most fun

Based user archive.org/details/MegamiIbunrokuPersonaPC.7z

>the last save before the final boss is like an hour away because of the encounter rate being so bad
>finally got to the boss room
>team wiped in two turns
Fuck that noise

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I didn't even know there was a PC version. But being a PC port from the 90s, I imagine it's probably not all that good, and a pain to run now.

Yeah but this is still the best boss theme in the series before river in the desert.
youtu.be/ZhkXBp4loSY

It is shit though. Every other persona game is better.

Now I’m SUPER GUIDO

>Kandori's name changed to Guido in the PS1 version
why guido

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>and a pain to run now.

The game is a 16-bits application, meaning that while you can run it on 32-bits OSes due to them being compatible with 16-bits applications, you cannot run it natively on a 64-bits OS. You're going to have to make a Virtual Machine.

atlus USA hates wops

Yeah, not the most optimal. Oh well, PSX emulators still exist.

girl on chair

1=2IN>2EP>>>>>>>>>anything else

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you mean worse and made for plebs

>He doesnt play the psp version with the ps1 soundtrack

>He doesnt play the version with Black Mark

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>Still missing a bunch of songs from the original.

The music patch is shit. SHIT!

What said. I wish they'd port it to another system with the PSX soundtrack as an option, because there are some nice changes in the PSP version. But I can read Japanese, so I just play the Japanese PSX version, that was how I first experienced the game.

why doesn't someone just re-translate the original PSX version and add the snow queen quest?

I'm not sure. I've read that the PSX versions of SMT I, II, and if are all a pain in the ass to hack, so maybe the original Persona is as well.

>Yeah, not the most optimal. Oh well, PSX emulators still exist.
Agreed

It's shit. Deadline is far better.

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>play Snow Queen quest
>get stuck in a loop of using physical attacks, getting healed from her attacks, and having her heal herself

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nah
youtube.com/watch?v=bWVTbxQuqu4
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Which one did you guys use ?

Why does Yea Forums keep shilling this dog shit game along with P2?

lul

Emulator? I used ePSXe.

>psp version didn't even have an equivalent to this theme, in all the battles it was used they just play normal battle music
youtube.com/watch?v=NJfIFzAKR7k

What a load of shit.

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TFW you'll never be a P3/4/5 baby who can't play the old games because the graphics are bad and there are no social links

>tfw babby who started with the P4 hiimdaisy comic, but still like P2 more

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the remixed version in the concert was kino
youtube.com/watch?v=Bp7l9aRhw90
actually, the whole concert was great:
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Just think the PSP version only has two ending themes compared to the PS1s four.

The patch obviously

you reminded me of 2 IS's intro with its music
youtube.com/watch?v=EPKXEF1z5ac
its pretty different compared to 3, 4 & 5

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Oh the patch. I can't remember, I just remember reading everywhere that no version of the patch has all of the music.

They were ported with better graphics and extra content to psp but no one bought them because they're shit.

Good intro

Persona 1 is one of those games where everything is great EXCEPT the gameplay. And the gameplay is so annoying it's hard to push through. I honestly gave up about halfway in.

And it's not because the game isn't like 3/4/5, which are basically visual novels with occasional dungeon crawling. It's because the dungeons are really lame the encounter rate is ridiculous, the battle system is slow, and there's too many random half-baked mechanics. Persona 2 doesn't fix the encounter rate or the slow combat but it at least made the dungeons slightly more interesting and streamlined the mechanics (in a good way). Also while I really like the demon conversations, the fact that you can't recruit them directly is shit and feels like change for the sake of change. Persona 1 only lets you get personas via fusing cards, and Persona 2 has this dumb grindy system where you just collect a shitton of cards and they removed fusion entirely.

holy shit is this really atlus design?

None of this is moe garbage, can I get sauce on game and names of the characters listed?

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user, are you serious? Did you think all of Atlus is weebshit? This design is from an Atlus game.

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That doesnt help in the least
For all we know , you could all be parroting about 1 patch

Is there an english patch for the Japanese PS1 version?

Atlus became weebshit after the original artist left, Atlus before 2006 was kino.

I never claimed to be an authority on Persona one fan patches. I'm saying that from what I found, no patch has all the music. If there is, I've never heard of it, don't take it personally.

Sadly no. The best way to play it in English is the psp version with the music patch. It's not perfect but it's the best current method.

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There is only one patch. It 1:1 replaces PSP tracks with PS1 tracks, and the PSP version has way less tracks. A patch that brought back every single PS1 track would be super difficult if not impossible.
Nope.

Even with the music patch, isn't there still a shit ton of music missing just because the PSP version has a lower track count?

youtube.com/watch?v=b8HDjf1qL54

Finished it a little while ago. It was alright. The battles got pretty damn tedious though when members of my party wouldn't be able to hit shit and I'd have to get off of autobattle to try and fix it. Really slowed it down. Nanjo was the only character I really cared for and I ended up not getting Reiji when he seemed like he would be cool. I went on to P2 since I didn't have any motivation to do Snow Queen.

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What do you all think of P1's battle system? There was alot of shit they just stuffed in from grid system to more types (nerve, mind?, nuclear, psi, gun, etc) and it was a clusterfuck. I'm probably too much of a brainlet to appreciate it but it was clunky (hurr you can't attack this demon because you're one square off and to the left)

Casual.

It was poorly implemented to be sure. If it was simpler to move characters around it could have worked but it was super clunky. Persona 2 just did away with it entirely.

Weeb shit really does kill the soul games have.

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One of my big problems with the system is that it basically feels like a solved-problem relatively early on in the game. For the most part you're going to want characters with Melee hugging as close to the front of the grid as possible with your ranged attacker in the back. Also magic spells are the most optimal since they are usually the only ones that will consistently hit all the enemies.

what if there was a persona game where the cast of 3/4/5 or whichever were sent back in time to the events of P1/P2. that way, it's technically a new game and doesn't really infringe on older, already made games

Plus you want to be using Personas constantly to get their rank up.
There's almost never any reason to do basic attacks in P1/P2.

REMINDER that faggots don't get the full P2 experience without playing P1 first

We literally have a redditor over here.

>can I get sauce on game
Are you fucking retarded?

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I wish they'd remove the helmet

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What a pig.

>What a pig.
This

>I wish they'd remove the helmet
Same

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No one cares of course

There's a different version of Wake Up, Get Up, Get Out There that has the P1 theme's melody in it.

There's also that quiz show arrangement you can put on in P3 for Tartarus.

youtube.com/watch?v=SE1wXchmE50

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Reminder this plot point was inspired by a real book that claimed Hitler was actually a warlock.

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It sounded good on paper, but in practice there was only one correct option. Maki behind, the rest at the front and have the reverse formation in case of ambush. So you are left no room for creativity.
Also a gorillion statuses that just clogged space.

Combat aside, I still loved the game because back then I had the exact same fucking haircut the MC had. I got so into it that I'd say it's still one of my most beloved games. I liked the themes of identity and fucking up demons.
Currently playing through the IS, don't know what took me so long.

I wish we could take Yukino along in the SEBEC route.

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Based Fuhrer

suddenly notKaneko

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dem smt1 chaos hero colors

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What's the quality of P2:EP's PS1 translation? Obviously P1's is notoriously bad.

Who made this? Sums up my Persona experience pretty well

When will Kaneko return from the flower field?

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P1 has super high encounter rates. Like, 80's JRPG level bad encounter rates.

I don't fault him for wanting to tone those down.

>Fan translation hasn't come out/been quickly ported because NeoGAF retard is a retard.
It's not fair!

It was okay except for how it fucked physical abilities up

when Persona falls into a state of decay & waifus aren't as marketable

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Make this guy aqiu384.github.io/megaten-fusion-tool/mib/personas/Shouki asap (or alternatively , get lucky like me by adding healing items to the fusions to teach them new abilities)

Honestly the effectiveness of Estoma in P1 is overrated, the reduction to the encounter rate is negligible. It says "weak" enemies for a reason. You're not going to be traversing old areas and the overworld enemies are constantly changed based on your plot progression, so you're almost always going to be fighting enemies that are the same level or higher.

It's bad, but serviceable. Late 90's translation, so YMMV on how you can "stomach" it.

So never.

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I didn't see any problems with it
Tatsuya's voice on the other hand

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>You're not going to be traversing old areas
If you do, its a gigantic help
At least it helps you avoid wasting your time more if you are on a level high enough

Elly. I love how insane she is

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She was fun, and the type to spout random English in Japanese.

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Its pretty oddly translated and wooden at times. But as far as translations for games of its era it is well above average.

I got locked into brown because I didnt know about it was permanent.

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graphics in persona 2 are nice tho... always liked the look of 2d sprites on basic 3d bacgrounds.

wasn't it 2 spots that were open, otherwise Reiji

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Nah, I'm pretty sure you need Mark and Glasses are always supposed to be in your party. I haven't play the second campaign, so maybe you have 2 slots there.

Ayase. I thought she would be funny and she was, mission accomplished. I've done runs with each character, though.

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I love Kei Nanjo! I want to have babies with him.

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This but unironically

The entire game is about her character. She develops throughout the entire thing and has depth on a level that basically no other character in the series does.

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Nah nah nah; mark and nanjo dont appear on SQQ . In that route, ayase and yukino are mandatory and you cant get reiji

I want to have my way with him.

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I really wouldn't want them unless Atlus stayed really faithful to the originals. I see shit every day like "just do the same story but with P5's gameplay/graphics," as if changing the gameplay and graphics doesn't completely change the tone of the story and combat.

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No, you can use Nanjo in SQQ. I did and if you bring him and Elly the girl in the second tower hits on Nanjo instead (since Brown isn't in the party) and he flips his shit.

>the velvet room used to have multiple people in it, including characters actually playing the music who would allude to the events of the game and explain a bit about the universe

>now it's just Igor and some fucking waifu

Why?

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P5's combat was awful so hopefully they don't do that.

If you even remotely love the Megaten series, please report or sage any post that is praising or remotely running rampant with the mindset that P3 is a good game. P3 fags on this board as of lately have been trying to incite wars with the P5 fandom and are throwing around malicious attacks to spite the other games. A notorious shitposter named Ryan is active as we speak from /pg/ to put down P5 for being identical to the SMT formula. Don't let them take this away from us. P5 is one of the more soulful Persona titles we've had in a long time and renovated the series for the better with its stylish graphics, actual dungeons, and enhanced gameplay. Fuck Ryan, and fuck Persona 3.

Kill yourself.

Is this a copypasta

Your power gap is flowing in the wrong direction.

can someone post some art from persona 1 most of what i see is fan art

1 > EP > 3 > IS > 5 > 4

Daily reminder

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Persona 3 IS a good game. It's one of the best JRPGs ever made.

EP isn't better than IS though

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SEBEC: MC, Maki, Nanjo, and Mark. Pick either Ayase, Reiji, Elly, or Brown as Fifth member
SQQ: MC, Ayase, and Yukino. Two open slots that can be filled with Nanjo, Brown, or Elly.

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Nice bait

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Truth

Hold up, you can get Ayase in the first campaign? I may be at the final boss, but I would gladly restart just for her, because fuck brown.

It is, by pure virtue of having difficulty somewhere approaching 90 IQ instead of 40 IQ.

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Yeah, she's great. Much better than Brown.

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You get Ayase if you go to the abandon factory without picking your fifth party member and haven't done the steps to get Reiji. I don't remember if you can still choose to have her join even after doing the stuff for Reiji but yeah Ayase is in both story routes. That being said I do think it's worth seeing the interactions between all of the party members at least once.

Literally just tell Brown to fuck off when he asks to join. The longer you wait, the better party member you'll get. The max of which is usually Eriko, but Reiji takes longer and is better if you do the required steps to unlock him.

>Reiji

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Is this the thread where DeSu posting inevitably takes over?

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>Mark constantly reaffirming his supreme taste in women
Excellent

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This is what makes me wonder the most
On one side I like to see everyone first run, but at the same time, different routes make an RPG
Im not so sure if I would have liked it better with everyone in one route only or the way it is

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>Nanjo on Maki
My feeling all game

>likes Maki
>good taste
That ain't it, chief

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Truly based and redpilled

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Never played it but I know the gist of the plot and I like the atmosphere.

The OP for the PSP remake is easily the best in the series.

If we ever got a remake a third route that combines both of SQQ and SEBEC but including all the party members would be cool with Mark and Maki not being in SQQ. That way the original way the game played out is kept but includes a story route that is more or less canonical to the 2 dualogy.
I wish I still had a link to one of the old interviews that Cozy Okada, Tadashi, and Kaneko did when Persona 1 was still fairly new gives some pretty good info.

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>female character has actual depth
>plebs don't like her
of course

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it's not true to life

Nevermind found it but yeah this is from 1998. So Innocent Sin wasn't even out yet.

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>character has depth
>therefore they're automatically a good character
Yukari in P3 has more depth than 90% of the characters in the series and shes widly hated.

How do I fuck up Krishna

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>Kaneko's favorite is Yukino
Supreme taste, as expected of Kaneko.

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Yeah character having depth does make them good by default

git Alice

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Just look at those yoohoos.

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today I got a rare article from an ancient print magazine. thank you handsome stranger.

She's hated by newer fans because they're too used to characters existing just to suck MC's dick 24/7.

Meh, never really got into IS despite finishing it, i hated the whole "met during childhood but forgot lmao" stuff, the first game was better

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She's hated because her depth is lent to a character who is a cunt by design. She has a good arc, she makes sense. It's just that, at the end of the day, she's just kind of a cunty person who I don't like interacting with. Even moreso than a character like Nanjo.

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>Cozy
Based. His favorite demon is even Jack Frost.

Reminder that Brwon shat his pants.

>Elly is a cute insane girl
>Brown is like having a 2nd Mark and it's fun to have 2 Marks
>Reiji is really memorable
Hard to choose.

Also important: he has velcro shoes and likely can't tie laces.

>try to censor him
>proceed to make him cooler in every way

Finally, a JRPG character I can relate to.

And what about ayase?

>Who are you
>I'm you, but cooler

Who's?

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Imagine

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>no devil survivor sequel

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DeSu takeover time?

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i have the fond memory of doing a DeSu1 run of pure mag on the DS when that one plant didn't scale with your highest stat and I did jackshit for damage

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I restarted my whole run because of that

One day

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Who needs massive mammaries when you've got a belly button like this

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I dont know why they haven't done so unless theyre that busy with SMT5 if its even alive at this point

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>yasuda

i don't have enough pictures of winslow walking out a door for this

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That belly button is for dumping loads

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It's killed enough of my children to make Furher look like he's not even trying

well, the clothes fit

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Everyday she takes more and more lives.

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>Not liking shapely anti-gravity tits
ISHYGDDT

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>he doesnt like yasuda
Cringe

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Even Yasudas boys are top-tier

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SHART
IN BLACK MART

Thanks for posting this, user. I don't think I've ever read the whole thing before.

Surely the fact that the thread's discourse worsened with the hijack was a coincidence.

This is a Persona thread you SMT mongoloids. Fuck right off.

What about this has been worse? The Persona posters went to bed. DeSu posters are always up at this time, it's natural.
Persona 1+2 are SMT games through and through. Don't lob them in with the later stuff please.

I like both so when people started taking about DeSu I joined in

they should adopt DeSu's way of social links into the new games

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The hybrid is a nice feature but the issue was that it took up 80% of the already small amount of time, leaving rather little for optional plot development. If it gets tweaked, it could be top tier.

I get why people don't like the P1P soundtrack but School Days is still one of my favorite songs in the series.

Muh dick

Lone prayer is the best song/battle theme in the entire MegaTen series and nothing will change my fucking mind. I'm dead series.

As someone who loves LJ, Mass Destruction is my favorite. But P3-5 prove that battle music you're going to hear a lot just should not have lyrics. Makes it too repetitive

>IS>EP
retard

>Guy crying about moe is an actual retard
Just like the Dragonball spics.

>But P3-5 prove that battle music you're going to hear a lot just should not have lyrics.
P3 wouldn't be P3 without BABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABY
Last Surprise is the only one that gets kind of old for me. Too busy for something you're gonna be hearing that often.

Almost getting you and Junpei hospitalized in a back alley because of running her mouth is just as bad just in the other direction.

>game from the 90s has a 90s anime aesthetic
Wow!

MD gets a pass from me because of LJ but just barely. Just listened to LP on YouTube though and I gotta say hearing it out of game makes it so MD has competition for my favorite, good shit.

Last surprise was just a shit song in general. The entire P5 OST is godawful. And thats after P3/P4 were good in a cheesy way rather than being genuinely good like the other games (P1's original battle theme is probably my favorite JRPG battle theme). God fuck Meguro

P5 has no variety. Every song is so eerily similar to each other.

>tfw can't have a comfy 1/2 thread without insecure fags crying about the new games
Look, I get it. You want to be cool on the internet you're not like those other babies/casuals and you're a REAL SMT fan, do we need to go through the same song and dance every time? Surely 1 and 2 have enough stuff to discuss that you don't even need to bring up the newer games? I know some people on this board play games not to have fun but for virtual epoints and Yea Forums status matters more than anything (to the point of even pretending to have played games they haven't) but I hope that's no one here.

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I pirated P5 before launch just to fuck with my friends that were excited for it and even though I expected nothing the first dungeon genuinely angered me with how terrible the music was

>almost
You're a man. Stop being a baby

This is exactly what Yukari would say too is the funny thing. While cowering behind you of course.

>we don't acknowledge P1 and 2 out of respect for the original team
>let me shit all over the legacy of a dead man tho' lmao

But the old song is still there. You're listening to it right now.

>The entire P5 OST is godawful
I wouldn't say that. I'd say it's just style over substance. Almost no song in the game holds up on a replay. It's all fun to hear for a little bit, but the dungeon themes are so fucking obnoxious when you've been hearing them for an hour, especially Sae's (which Meguro actually apologized to English-speakers for lol).

Last Surprise is a fine song on its own but there's no "danger" element. Even the most basic bitch JRPG composers know that your song needs to feel like someone's getting their ass beat, but that it needs to be ambiguous who it is so that it always fits. Mass Destruction is badass but it's also kinda menacing. But 5's literally only ever sounds like a victory song.

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It was literally the same as a DRPG battle system except instead of being first person battles it was isometric.

It's absolutely horrendous, it makes no sense that they could've possibly made that many bad decisions when not even a year later they released the peak of classic Megaten gameplay with Soul Hackers.
youtube.com/watch?v=oQxSjTkGQlI

I guess I just dont like the style they were going for. A lot of the music just didnt fit at all (seriously, I had no fucking clue how the fuck the first dungeon theme was supposed to fit with either the aesthetics of the dungeon or the character it was based on)

So I have a question for lorefags. I know Y[record scratch]H isn't God as in THE big G, but who the fuck is? Is Philemon with him, or is he with the Axiom? Is the Axiom the big G?

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Allegedly the PSP port butchered the OST

PSP ports didn't sell well enough

Axiom/Great Will is big g yeah. Philemon is part of it but not any more affiliated than YHVH or Kagutsuchi

>I had no fucking clue how the fuck the first dungeon theme was supposed to fit with either the aesthetics of the dungeon or the character it was based on
Yeah, that's a big problem. I think only Futaba's fits with the psychological aspect in any way, and that one contradicts the visuals, because why is there an electric guitar theme in a pyramid dungeon. The bank theme is obvious heist music, but it doesn't say anything about the mentality of the palace's master. Unless Kaneshiro was really into fucking bagpipes I guess. Idk, P4 wasn't incredible about that kind of thing either, but literally any fault with that game's dungeon tracks is vindicated by Heaven.

>YHVH isnt the BIG god
Did SMT4:Final retcon this? I havent played it but I know you fight YHVH at a less powerful form than in SMT2.

Sup, Ryan

EP reduces best girl to a non-character

What? But he's way harder in 4:Final, he's a complete pushover in 2

I wouldn't even call later Persona games moe garbage, what is wrong with you?
They also stay faithful to the original demon designs

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I'm talking canonically, not gameplay wise

>it's another "brainlet thinks a character who doesn't speak much doesn't have a character" episode

Tatsuya has a very clear character in IS despite not speaking much. It's no different for Maya. Her negotiations, her battle dialogue, her possible dialogue responses, etc. all give her character.

You fight him at full strength, but you strip him of his creator godhood which marks the second phase

Right duh my bad, context clues and all that. Still, I'm not quite sure why he would be stronger in 2. In Final, he's literally unbeatable until you "undeify" him, you could say Aleph and his demons are stronger than Nanashi, all his party members and his demons but that seems like something is not true.

*something that is not true.

It's not the same and you know it. A lot of Tatsuya's characters comes from other characters.
Sometimes it's "Master of Unlocking"-tier

So Phil is part of the Axiom, but just not the Axiom itself. So what in the flying fuck is it doing while Lucy and [Record Scratch] are tearing shit up? And who is he always talking to in that room

Persona series takes place in an alternate timeline where the nukes weren't dropped and the gateway for more fucked up and powerful things wasn't opened. Philemon and Nyar are the weakest possible versions of the Axiom that exist that could still be considered deities.

You can't actually beat big boy Y. It is cyclical and all those who do are damned. What's funny is in the friends ending they all seem happy and like they're gonna get a great happy ending. But they're not. They're all going to be damned to eternity like Aleph was.

Well maybe Aleph couldn't.

>hipsters itt weren't even alive when the fucking game came out

neo Yea Forums is disgusting

>If you don't like games (or something about them) that happen to be old, you must have shit taste

So NYAN and Phil are both part of the Axiom? What in the Goddamn

Lucifer states that people's thoughts are responsible for creating the Expanse, and that similarly humans are the reason that entities like YHVH will never disappear

So the Axiom is just the embodiment of the expanse and beings like Phil and Nyar are manifestations of human will?

It is the cosmic force that is reality itself, upon which all universes and lifeforms exist within it. The Axiom is not sentient in a way humans would understand. The Axiom bestowed upon humanity the power of Observation when they were created, allowing them to give form to their beliefs and thoughts.

Oh, so it's retarded

Yes considering it created YHVH and now wants to get rid of it.

>style over substance
There's that buzzword again.

Whenever I play poker for any reason I either hear this in my head or have to listen to it, good going Atlus
youtu.be/IQcnanaCjEA

I was more thinking about it doing the equivalent of giving weapons of mass destruction to chimpanzees, but that works too.

>why is there an electric guitar theme in a futuristic pyramid dungeon that's the corrupted viewpoint of a computer freak?
i don't know user

>electric guitar
>computer nerd who's into video games and anime
Remember in 4 how there was a dungeon for an identical type of character and his music was chippy retro shit? I mean yeah, Futaba's dungeon isn't video game themed, but what the fuck does electric guitar have to do with being a shut-in weirdo besides "uses electricity?"

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I wonder if Kaneko send in a bunch of other alternatives that are just fucking crazy so the only real choice would be Fuhrer.
Something like Hitler but as a giant penis

Because those velvet rooms are about a journey, they're basically portable rooms I guess and maybe just lead to the actual Velvet room and 5 was a fake so it might not count that much.
Maybe we'll get back the proper Velvet room in a Persona game where each MC is a party member which would be around Persona 10 which will probably be called X.

Too bad must people will be dead by that point

This makes me think, what if the cycle is even bigger? Like constant rewriting of reality in a cycle that never ends. DeSu2 gives world rewriting capabilities to humans which creates the expanse which leads to the Yamato incident, which leads to the Yamato incident being undone, which leads to persona and ends with another Yaldy incident that makes them want to take the rewriting capabilities away which leads back to DeSu.

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Good characters doesn't mean you have to like it.
Just like said.

Yukari is a good character in the sense that she has depth and growth but she's still a cunt

I need a big visual flowchart of the different timelines and entities to understand this shit

Id make it, but my PC fucking melted playing Risk of Rain 2 and is 100% unusable.
so fucking worth it
But I'll see what I can do.

She likes Egyptian mithos enough that she called herself Alibaba and Medjed. Maybe that’s why.

It tends to hold up

How come Persona 2 had a US release but not Persona 1? How the fuck does that make sense?

But it did? Revelations Persona counts. The real dumb thing is that’s we got EP but not IS.

A lot of companies do that. If they feel it will be a complete flop, then they don't bother. But if they get balls from something else releasing that does well from another company then they might release out of sequence even if it doesn't make sense.

>we got EP but not IS
and then PSP IS comes out but not PSP EP
it annoys me, but at least PSP EP translation is coming out this year I believe

>Revelations Persona counts
Yeah, even if the shit localization makes it a black mark on the series

Ok boys I know this isn't exactly an SMT thread but I have a question. Will the compendium carry over in strange journey after I finish the game? I'm 60 hours in with 60% of the cmopendium done and I just realized that it might not even carry over

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>Release first Persona game on PC
>Never release another SMT or Persona title again on PC and make it console exclusive
Why did they mean by this?

The MMO and fangame doesn't count, before anyone asks.

>ATLUS will never make another bro as good as Nanjo
Nothing better than disliking a character at the start only for him to really grow on you.

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Why does it look like shr's not actually sitting on the chair?

i didn't know persona 1 had a PC port