SMB2 in Mario Maker

The Western version was rereleased in Japan.

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But Paper Mario is an RPG. They'd have to change everything about it.

Imagine what people would do.

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>buying famicon games in 92
>buying some fag as pink cart

Why does Mario have a bandanna on?

Thats his mouth you fucking retard

It is a RPG but It is possible. If Nintendo ever decide to do it then they will have to revamp it to work with SMM2.

They could use SPM as a thought since that game doesn't rely on RPG features in the gameplay that often.

It's going to be Zelda
>but Zelda Maker would suck
Correct; however, it's not going to be actual Zelda Maker. It will just be Zelda skinned Mario 2D platforming with a few cool unique assets

>Ignoring all the characters that appear in future mario games

Yeah but hope it's the All Stars Sprites instead of original

I hope so. Fuck Landfags and FUCK the delusional idiots that think it'll be something like 64 or PM or Galaxy

Zelda maker would be good assuming it's just a dungeon maker and focus on top down only.
Though if there was a Zelda maker in Mario Maker it would probably be based off of Zelda 2.

>Grab the key
>Now run through this long narrow tunnel that you can't jump in
>Get to the end
>Jump and run through the next tunnel going the opposite way
>Do it again
>Do it again
>Do it again
>Do it again
>Come upon 3 locked doors
>Only one leads to the exit while the other two instantly kill you
This is the problem with Mario maker and you KNOW it. Either that or you didn't actually need the key.

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Super Paper Mario was pretty subpar as a platformer, though. I really digged the story and the boss fights but the game fell apart on the levels.

It's retroactively a Mario game.

Friendly Reminder
Super Mario Land 2 will never be a style because Mario has no unique moveset/ability (spin jump, holding shells, wall jumping, long jump, speed boost, etc.) in that game that sets him apart from the other styles

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>Shy guys are thr goombas of the Yoshi series
>Birdo
>Those cactus guys
>That SMB2 stage in Smash
>First appearance was in SMB2/USA/DDP

I would honestly prefer it to be Super Mario Land 1 & 2:
>Those unique enemies
>Tatanga and the other bosses
>Those level themes
>Carrot powerup
>Submarine and Plane vehicles
>Could go on and on

Yet they made things from it canon, even as soon as in Mario World via Ninji's
Then Shy Guys and Birdo even becoming major staying pieces of the Mario World.

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>Boo's your level
Problem solved

You're right. Let's just hope that booing actually does something.

Which is exactly why they chose 3D World over 64, Sunshine, and Galaxy. Idiot. Everyone complains about both NSMB series and 3D World, yet both are in the game. I guess people think its just a coincidence, or its due to popularity.

NSMB Mario and 3D World Mario have different/unique movesets/abilities, dunno what you're sperging about.

Weight the differences and the similarities.

64 didn't have a goalpost.
Sunshine didn't have a goalpost.
Galaxy didn't have a goalpost.
What are you sperging about?

This would be ok if they used the All-stars version. Smb3 is the worst looking style in Mario maker since they're using the NES version.

If it does happen, I want the option to play it with the original Doki Doki sprites just for the deep cut.

>Mario 2 USA won't be a style because it has unique mecha-

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m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q51ic-rpSRw

I didn't mention any of those as not being possible.
Are you okay user?

Feigning ignorance. You know what he meant.

That's actually a good point.
What mario games left even HAVE goal posts of any kind?

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Mario 3 doesn't have a "goal post" either you know. Neither does Land 2.

>Mario 2 USA is the same as Mario Land 2
Mario 2 USA has the super jump, it has a unique mechanic

Dude STOP sperging out jesus fucking christ are you ok?

His post is still wrong regardless, Mario can do a super jump in 2 USA by holding down.

Sooner than that even, Bob-Ombs were canonized in SMB3.

Galaxy has honestly the most potential to be transfered in my mind, next to SMB2.
With plenty of interesting not overly specific set pieces, an original style, movement options that could easily use the current ones as a base even.
Power ups, enemy types as well, and being a 3-D style that can easily just use the current ones but modified.

64 just doesnt have enough of an identity outside of very specific scenarios.
Yoshi's island is too out there art style wise, and lacks the whole you know, playing mario part.
SML would require entirely new graphics, and honestly doesnt have much to set itself apart from SMB1.
While SML2 is just fucking gimmick central, presenting a similar issue to 64 where outside of the overly specific scenarios there really isnt much a way to turn it into a builder.
Not to mention 64, and Yoshi's Island lack powerups which are present in all styles.

Now not saying they cant be added, just that it'd be really out there based on what we have so far.
Nintendo loves curve balls though.

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Super Mario USA is far more well known than Donkey Donkey Panic

Sorry, didn't know the right wording. Semantics and all.
What would you call the goalpost, end level card, and that tape thing from World? The end point to a level? Yeah, that thing. 64, Sunshine, and Galaxy did not have a end point to a level. That's what I meant to say. Not backpedeling, just bad at words. Sorry.

>Changing the game style will reset the course and erase all of the parts that have been placed
What the fuck? Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?

Still feigning ignorance. You know what he meant.

>Moving goal posts about goal posts.

Those new frames and SMW imported assets look really out of place.

You could just turn a star into the "end point".

its only for mario3d world as it changes the "gameplay" itself and doesnt have equivalents with each of the enemies and objects and stuff (bullet bills shooting out of the background isnt going to work in mario1 etc...). So the first 4 styles are interchangeable but the "extra game styles" are so different they cant just be swapped around. looks like we have a 2nd extra gamestyle so mario2 might be it.

He's talking about Super Mario Land 2, implying that there won't be any more mixed game styles along with the main four, and that its mechanics aren't unique enough to be on the same list as 3D World.

Super Mario 1: Running, Jumping
Super Mario 3: Running, Jumping, Holding Shells/Objects
Super Mario World: Running, Jumping, Holding Shells/Objects, Kicking Objects/Shells Upwards, Spin Jumping
NSMB: Running, Jumping, Triple Jumping, Holding Shells/Objects, Spin Jumping, Can NOT throw objects upward, Wall Jumping
3D World, Running, Jumping, Long Jumping, Speed Boosting, Can not spin jump(?), and others I'm too lazy to verify

Mario Land 2: Running, Jumping
Mario 2 USA: Running, Jumping, Super Jumping

It's Mario Odyssey. It's seperate because the gimmick of throwing the hat remains in this, allowing for 2D Puzzle based levels based around taking over different enemies. Also allows you to use the costumes in Mario Odyssey.

posted too early and forgot the unique carrying mechanic in Mario 2 USA that's different than the usual grabbing of objects

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stars are end points you fucking autist

The boring but very likely answer.

Mario 2 USA: Running, Jumping, Super Jumping, Standing on enemies, Pickuing up enemies, Turnips and those block things, Keys, Mask, Birdo, Owl, etc.

Shortly after making that post I just realized that. My bad

Yes, it's going to be announced alongside Wart's cameo in Link's Awakening

Will pic related return?

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I want 100 man and costumes back.

Yea, like I said, I posted too early and got lazy with my list
I intentionally wasn't listing enemies, objects, or powerups though.

>Mario 2 USA: Running, Jumping, Super Jumping
You forgot the mechanic with pulling items from the ground, sandblocks to dig, grabbing and throwing small enemies, a second plane based on the door potions (where you can hide items and other elements behind). And there being no powerups aside from the star, mushroom for extra health, and the floating hearts that come from kill chains. Not to mention, the entire catalog of enemies unique to the game, along with the introduction of shy guys.

Oh my bad.

Who’s the girl who narrated during the direct she sounds like a hottie

Yes I know I missed some for Mario 2 USA
My point was that Mario 2 USA DOES have unique/different moveset/abilities for Mario while Mario Land 2 does not

go play mario maker 1 then, if you want exactly the same stuff. autist.

They should just replace him with a playable luigi that functions exactly the same

Me to user
Maybe in an update

Not that user, and I do not miss 100 Mario Challenge, because it was just 8-16 stages of growing difficulty (hit and miss, on top of that) with 100 lives. But I do agree on the latter and hope that the mystery mushrooms do get a comeback. Especially with the ongoing wave of amiibos coming up.

we can have the same stuff AND the new stuff too. no reason we can't have both in Maker 2

Same. Levels themed around a costume are so fun, they can't seriously remove them like that.

It better.

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Still hilarious that it is actually not a Mario game, just a reskinned title of another IP, yet it is the best one, according to that image.

>No slim Mario (yet)
>No costumes (yet)
Is mario maker 2 soulless?

Here is your costumes bro

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well memed, kid

Wait, the 100 mario challenge is gone?

Looking like it
Replaced by Endless mode

I want Zelda 2 style

>mfw it'll just be NSMB DS with mega mushroom, blue shell, micro mushroom, and everyone will be seething about it

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he needs to come home

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3D World is using a different engine from the other four styles, which all share the NSMBU engine.

imagine if it were a yoshi's island template... just imagine..

SMB2 US is all it COULD be. Wipes on switch like 3D World because it's so different compared to "normal mario" yet still 2D. Health, standing on, picking up enemies, duck for super jump and digging.

The question is how the 4 different characters are going to be utilized. If it's pick on stage start you'd have to prove the level can be beat with Mario, Luigi, Toadstool and Toad. Maybe you could start as Mario and find the others like power-ups?

I won't, that sounds great.
That said, they potentially have space for 3 new themes on the screen. Maybe 2 new 'standard' styles and one 'extra' one. If they added them as DLC I would be totally okay with it.

>Captain Toad port
>Super Mario 3D World creator in Mario Maker 2
When the fuck are you going to actually port 3D World Nintendo?

Imagine how easy it would be to softlock yourself with a Mega Mushroom. I can't imagine they'll actually add it.

>Still hilarious that it is actually not a Mario game, just a reskinned title of another
Protip: it was a prototype Mario game made to test out verticality reskinned into Doki Doki Pnic reskinned back into a Mario game.

>tfw got memed into buying Captain Toad
I mean, it's not bad but I beat it in like 5 hours. Not with all the diamonds and extra challenges, but that's not going to take long and I honestly don't even feel like doing it.
Should have been a $20 game.

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At least they didn't charge full price for it, I'm still pissed that Dong Freeze is full price. At least Bayo2 included the original, Dong Freeze should have included a remaster of DKC Returns.

But it had a FUNKY NEW MODE, BRAH! What are you, some kind of shoobie? That port was totally gnarly. You just don't know how to chill with the gorill.

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Can't DUNK the FUNK

Is there any reason not to use the 3D world style over the others? The impression i got was besides a few powerups it has everything and more

it doesn't have the night variation unique mechanics

Aesthetics

>Dong Freeze should have included a remaster of DKC Returns.
The best part about this would be finally getting to play DKC Returns without waggle controls

There's the 3DS version if you're willing to accept a graphical downgrade and 30fps

Everything in NSMBU is not actually in 3D, but actually sprites, flat images of 3D stuff (with a high amount of frames ii animated). Plus, as shown in the Direct and the Japanese website, a lot of objects, elements and enemies take the same spot of stuff found in the main four styles. Stuff that does not act the same at all. Even certain platform types are in other spots. It's why it breaks the level design when switching styles to 3D World.

No. The last unlockable theme will be

Mario Bros. (Arcade)

OH BOY MORE REHASHAN

I don't get the 'SMB2 is too different to be compatible' meme. This has never made sense to me. Blocks could either just be present, or turn into shrubs. Is anything else more different than that to make the style incompatible?
Not that it matters since incompatibility isn't an issue, but just for the sake of argument.

>items in the ground
>digging up sand
>now swimming in SMB2
To name a few

Considering you can soft lock yourself in a million other ways already, it wouldn't be unfitting.

He fucking better

Super mario world 2 - yoshi island
Shame that wouldnt be it

So? The original 4 styles have original mechanics so why would any of that many it incompatible, is what's in asking?

Is what I'm asking**

Found this on the website. Does this basically confirm that there are more characters or do you guys think this is just an alt for blue toad?

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That same could be said about 3D world, so I don't know what to tell you

I think that Toad is just part of the Clear Conditions.

I don't know if that's proof of anything, but the fact that they have yet to reveal anything about Mystery Mushrooms or Amiibo support leads me to believe that the final big reveal prior to launch is going to be more playable characters or some kind of increased Amiibo functionality

>Super Mario USA

What a dumb name for game. They should have played up American patriotism and made Mario have a red white and blue costume and make the last boss Saddam Hussein.

Don't get my hopes up, user. We all know that isn't going to happen.

some announcement could happen as a regular trailer at e3 now that the big overview stuff was covered in the direct.

birdo,
the mask,
digging stuff up,
the charged jump,
standing on enemies,
picking up and throwing enemies,
no goombas, no koopas,
the potion thing,
no powerups,
do I need to go on?

Seems to be a one player clear condition where you have to escort a toad to the end or something.

That would require sprites for
>Mario 1
>3
>world
New 3d models and animations for
>NSMB
>3DWorld
I'm not against it, but I just don't see Nintendo doing it. Not unless they're the usual suspects like Peach, Daisy, Wario, Koopalings, etc. I'm not about to get my hopes up.

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it's from story mode

It seems that 3D world is incompatible due to an abundance of unique course elements/objects, not mechanics. So the same can't really be said. Unless you think SMB2 has too many unique elements/objects as well, which might be the case as
suggests.
I don't see why that would really matter though somince it would be possible to just omit those elements. Maybe they just weren't willing to do that.
And maybe then, we'll be getting the full package now in smm2

I have doubts but other variations of toads are shown in the story with the blue toad included.

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>costume mario in all themes
nah, the most they'd do is smb1, like in the first game. That giant mushroom, on the other hand, I could probably see them doing for other themes, since that would require way less.

>you can make infinitely looping VS levels with the same rules of NSMBDS multiplayer
stop making me dream about this

I'm still hoping for something like "NES Remix" to take up the Mystery Mushroom which seemingly was dropped from the SMB1 theme.

It'll be gf maker

A Mario 2 theme would be stupid without the 4 characters and their unique abilities. If they were putting Peach in the game she would be in multiplayer for the other modes instead of toadette. It's gotta be Mario Odyssey if they're doing another one, desu. A 2D game being next to a 3D one in "Extra Game Styles" would just be dumb.

NES Remix was the biggest lost opportunity from the Wii U era.
Those remixed, crossover bits were the best

This. Also, Yoshis island is too great a divergence from typical Mario games. It'll absolutely be galaxy or Odyssey, of that I have no question. Could Nintendo blow my dick off with something totally unexpected? Absolutely. Will they? Probably not.

Odyssey could be possible, would make sense if they're still finishing up some mechanics to show off or put in an e3 demo. Otherwise, i'd guess they're specifically keeping the last style a secret, for something like a story mode completion bonus.
and what 3d style would be more fitting as a bonus for rebuilding peach's castle than the game that takes place entirely in peach's castle?

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Endless mode may be better for single player, but worse for twitch streamers and youtube personas. That's pretty based.

>Playable SMB2 style
>Can also choose to play as Peach/Toad/Luigi and use their gameplay mechanics
That'd be nice. Someone would inevitably make a luigi flying over the ocean in an egg stage though.

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Except there would need to be several paths per level to different stars. Each level in 64 had multiple end points and weren't really end points since you needed a bunch of stars to progress through the game.

Story Mode, which will have a 100+ precooked courses to play and learn different arrangements, unlock stage elements to use in the editor (Thank god they removed the timed unlock crap), etc. The toad is part of an escort mission type of goal condition for some of the 1-player courses in the story mode, but I am sure it will also be usable for player custom ones.