Name a game series where I is a better game than II

Name a game series where I is a better game than II

I'll start, Diablo

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diablo 1 is better than 2 but it's short and has almost no replay value unlike 2

>diablo 1 has no replay value

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starcraft
legend of grimrock
arguably dark souls
devil may cry
rage
desperados
warriors orochi
way of the samurai

Mass Effect
/thread

Half Life
Warcraft

>arguably dark souls
>arguably

GTFO

warcraft 2 > 1 and this isn't even disputable
there is nothing to argue about regarding this and your opinion is irrelevant
your nostalgia goggles blind you, and this is coming from someone who grew up on WC1

>warcraft 1 better than 2
I would agree that 2 is better than 3 but you're taking it too far

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Fuck off to d*scord, self /thread tranny.

DeS is better than DaS.
Shadow Tower is better than both of them.

Torchlight.

Deus Ex

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Many classic titles. Let's try with some zoomer ones as well. Mirror's Edge and Dragon Age. Let's throw an mmo in as well -Guild Wars.

forgot dead space too

Dead Space
Bioshock

King's Field I can understand, but Shadow Tower is aesthetically bland as fuck. It doesn't even have an ost.

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>3 classes
>2 of them have nothing but default attack
>3rd one gets old after 2nd playthrough
yeah it doesn't

>2 of them have nothing but default attack
Every class uses spellbooks though, only the mage casts faster. based retard. Rogue is the best class in the game because she has a resource-free, fast-firing ranged attack on top of being able to make use of spells.

wow i can't wait to replay and cast holy bolt and hydra again

No,

For me it's stone curse and firewall gg. I don't live in these games to watch numbers increase. D1 is aesthetically pleasing and straight shot consistent, no fucking wandering around outside wide areas and shit, bunch of acts seperating the pacing.

MGS
That PS1 release is probably still the best game ive ever played.

Anyone who disagrees is simply too young to appreciate it.

Diablo
Command and conquer
Deus ex
Max payne
Dawn of war
Company of heroes
Half life
NuWolfenstein
Dark souls (especially if you count demons souls as 1)
The division
Grand theft auto
Metal gear solid
Silent hill
Ultima underworld
Gears of war
Far cry
Oddworld
Etc

I dunno about that, 1 feels clunkier when compared to 2 and it doesn't have as many mods available for it compared to 2

>mgs, silent hill, gears of war, far cry
what a shitfest attempt of a troll

Paper Mario

>Command and conquer
could you please elaborate on this?

Halo

But the map layout, monsters and even bosses are randomized. It's a different game every time you play. That was one of it's selling points

I think Roller Coaster Tycoon 1 is better then 2. 2 only really added free form parks.

Ragnarok Online 1 > 2
PSO1 > PSU = PSO2

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>Command and conquer
B A S E D
A
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1 is awesome as fuck
2 is awesome

>potion noise triggers desire to pee
>glass clinking noise triggers desire to drink alcohol

How so?
>sh2
VASTLY overrated compared to 1&3
>GoW1
1had way better storyline, while 2 was a rehash where the only escalation was the sizes of the monsters you get inside
>Mgs
raidan
>Farcry
Malaria

what do you consider to be C&C 2?

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Tib sun
Ra2 was a spin off,
Cov ops was an expansion
Sole survivor was fucking awesome but just a pre moba moba basically

mmm man love that warrior magic build which caps at 50 magic. retard.

We are reaching peak based values here

Who the fuck even plays warrior dumass.

Ra*

So amazing aye.
Me and my mate watched it on our giganigga TV in the lounge last night.
So rad.

I've been cranking a lot of old klepacki stuff too. His work on kyrandia, eye of the beholder and other old Westwood games is phenomenal.
Such an inspirational dude.

Not the guy you're arguing with, just pointing out procedural generation doesn't make a game that much more replayable, all the main beats are the same.

Two of my mates and I play D1 yearly.
We draw roles out of a hat. One mate got warrior 3 years in a row.
So Tim. Tim does.

Grandia
Fallout
Vampire Bloodlines
FEAR

first post to respond decides the manner in which i masturbate and the content which i masturbate to

gay fat people, eat cum after

He's my 2nd favorite composer

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>Far cry
finally a player who doesn't cry bitch tears about difficulty spike when muties show up

also big, open maps >>>>>> respawning open world

i'm willing to agree so long as you don't consider red alert sequels, because RA1 is way better than C&C.

you think that's tough but momma made me strong. commencing project fat fag.

>WAAAH WAAAH YOU'RE WRONG
embarrassing post

>no replay value
Fucking retard
currently on 16th or so character, diablo 1 is literally made to be replayed, that's a core principle of the original design. You start out with a shitty sword and like 100 gold, scrounging for rags and beating up goblins. In 16 dungeon levels you're challenging blood knights and evil wizards and the loot you find can be the best in the game. What I'm trying to say is that the whole breadth of the game is focused on a single playthrough. The nightmare and hell system was tacked on to the game, as was multiplayer, for which these modes were designed for. In D2 the whole game from start to finish is considerably longer than D1 yet not as focused. You start out with shitty items and skills and end up with slightly less shitty items and skills. The best stuff is in hell difficulty, behind tons of grinding. The closest you can get to D1 in D2 is by doing ironman runs of Act 1, and even then the loot is not nearly as satisfying because you're still wearing rags and the really fun item modifiers and spells are far, far away.

The dungeons are genuinely intriguing to explore in D1 because every room can contain something good, every bookshelf can have something useful. You get all these crazy shrines with permanent effects. You make an effort to kill every monster. This is simply not something that happens in D2 because it is not designed like D1. D2 is about grinding specific areas in hell difficulty, with the overall goal of getting something good from there eventually. D1 is about replaying the game on normal difficulty, and you can expect good shit on every playthrough.

>3 classes
Why aren't you playing with hellfire? The 3 HF classes are all deeper and more interesting than the base ones. If you don't like the "new" dungeons, then just don't play them, the level curve isn't changed so they really are just a bonus.

Unbelievable. Saying that D2 is more replayable than D1. Christ

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overrate a decade after does not make it worse than the 1st, its purely subjective
gow2 refined everything 1 had going on. the story is a trilogy its not gow1 story gow 2 story etc its gow story
rden was a bold move from the devs that paid off, spawning a great character that even got its own sequel which is arg. one of the best of its genre. also rules of nature
far cry 2 was the peak of the series and although malaria and respawning niggers were annoying, these weren't game breaking at all. pls remember the shit fest hit box of fc 1, its ai pin point accuracy on easy and the dificulty spike out of nowhere when mutants start being in the forefront. fc1 was beta testing for crysis 1

>its purely subjective
>its purely subjective
>its purely subjective

Just stop there, dummy.

You're looking at the games in the context of their series and place in history.
Stop being autistic. The games themselves aren't better. (with the possible exception of silent hill 2, but it isn't anywhere near as scary as 1)

Deus Ex
Danganronpa
Dark Souls
Devil May Cry
Darksiders
Disgaea

Maybe it's a D thing

Deus Ex
Mass Effect
Dark Souls
The Arkham games
Bioshock
Dead Rising
Danganronpa
Mafia

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The fact D3 tried to ape D2 and ended up dogshit and with no substance while D2 was trying to be D1 but in a larger scope shows how Blizzard doesn't get what the appeal of Diablo is.

>ignore 99% of the post which calls out your bs and ofc you cannot refute it
>grasp at the last straw through a random chosen word
>repeat it like an autist
>reddit spacing
>dummy, not even a proper insult, can't get those fingers dirty from bad words
fuck outta here
nice goalpost moving.
>name a 1 better than 2 in a series
>actually, don't take it in the context of the series, don't take it in the place in history, stop looking at them from this exact perspective and here are my 0 arguments to your examples because reasons

not sure if they're considered a series, but:
Betrayal at Krondor > Return to Krondor

Super Mario Brothers

Lol rad, as soon as I opened it, it started me off from somewhere in the harkonnen theme from last week!

So based. Who is your first fav?

Yeah man, I actually really liked how unexpected and scary they were.

Ra is a spin off series. There are only 3 proper command and conquer games, then the red alert series, generals, and renegade.
I refuse to acknowledge 4's existence.
Based. I fucking love diablo for its horror atmosphere.
2 went too far into the loot clicker territory - that crappy mentality of "gotta get moar gear" appeals to autists and Asians, but I prefer atmosphere, dread and story to bigger numbers.
I have played 2 onve with like half the characters and never since, but I play 1 multiple times yearly.
I dropped 3 after like 10mins of it.
Christ, that was bad.

Stoked that 1 works on win10 now for multiplayer. It was touch and go with hamatchi trying to play with mates in Aussie.

Diablo 2 is a lot better the only thing Diablo did better was the "going deeper down into the depths of hell" aspect of design. They should have incorporated that into D2 like an act 6 xpac or something.

>Dawn of war

Holy shit I can't believe they threw out everything that made DoW fun just to make some...squad-level shit for 2/3.

>Bioshock 1 better than 2
how? Bio1 has generic guns, shooting feels clumsy, half of levels is rather meh, and everything past 'slave obeys' feels like a filler.

Divine Divinity
Mass Effect

Countdown to Doomsday > Matrix Cubed

Castlevania

Baldur's Gate

Holy autism batman.
You are literally judging the SERIES in EACH of your replies.
not the individual games.
>Hurr durr Raiden was kewl cos mgr.
Nigger fuck off. We are talking about 2, and it wasn't as good as 1.

>hurr gow story is the whole saga, it's a trilogy
Nigger fuck off. We are talking about how 1 is better. 2 is a dull rehash with a dumb story.

And whatever else you said. I can't even be bothered re reading it.

Oh

And

How's this

Reddit spacing?

Faggot?

Bayonetta
Viewtiful Joe
Prototype
Mega Man X
Digimon Rumble Arena

The Witcher is an obvious one.

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>So based. Who is your first fav?
Glenn Stafford

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Dude's higher than Mozart in my book

Neverwinter Nights

I really feel like W2 is worse than both 1 and 2 but if it was a standalone game outside of the series it would still be fucking amazing
Dragged down by being compared to 10/10s

kotor

you still haven't refuted shit. you're just crying like a retarded autist with "its dumb", "L-I-T-E-R-A-L-L-Y" and going apeshit with caps. also, fucking funny how after calling you out on your cowardice in typing a word and being a retarded faggot from reddit you double down and start posting 80% insults. it does not make you a big boi, you're still a frustrated limped dick faggot who's got not taste in gaming and can't even hold a candle to its arguments. consider the noose tardo

Dark souls

Fights in Witcher 1 are boring button mashing though

So no different than TW2?

Idk, I only played 1 and 3. 3 has nice fighting

>dummy, not even a proper insult, can't get those fingers dirty from bad words

>posting 80% insults. it does not make you a big boi,

Make up your mind.

Good taste, my man!

Dawn of War
Starcraft
Company of Heroes
Sam & Max
Bioshock
Diablo
Fallout
Doom
Empire Earth
Dungeon Keeper
Puzzle Quest
Alone in The Dark
FEAR
The Witcher
Guild Wars
Operation Flashpoint
Deus Ex
Panzer General

All correct answers.

>Ra is a spin off series. There are only 3 proper command and conquer games, then the red alert series, generals, and renegade.
>I refuse to acknowledge 4's existence.
based

>ctrl-f
>no quake
You disappoint Yea Forums

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>Doom
controversial yet true
the ssg and new enemies were nice but doom 1 had better levels overall

Every single one of them.

Simcity 2000 was better than the original

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RPG wise, absolutely. Everything else, its way to fucking dated.

>FEAR

Eat a fucking dick.

I actually agree that SH1 and GOW1 are superior to their direct sequels.

>ctrl+f fallout
>2 matches
My niggaz

How is FEAR2 better than the first game?? Where the fuck does an opinion this bad come from? Are you confused about the thread topic? This is so bad that i'm actively confused and baffled for you user.

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Does anyone really think that?

I think they're more or less equal in quality

good list though i personally liked alone in the dark 2 more than the first one

I would actually agree with all of these.

A few controversial picks but I can see it.

I genuinely do.
1 felt like an adventure.
2 felt like a tour through someone's failed novel series ideas.
I'm just not a fan of high level dnd either.

>3 has nice fighting
????
one button to attack, one button to dodge

It feels good and organic

>people with taste this bad actually exist

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Two Worlds
Risen
STALKER
Bloodrayne
Riddick
Deus Ex

>I'm just not a fan of high level dnd either.
I'm the opposite. Low level is just a ton of misses and then the fight is over as soon as someone gets a hit.

I want a remake of two worlds 1.

The equipment stacking feature was incredible. It's probably been done before but it was so organic in Two Worlds, it immediately made sense and felt great to do. A sorely lacking mechanic from the open world genre.

But there is no Stalker 2

>you're living in the age of ultra nostalgia fags that actually think diablo 1 is even remotely close to being as good as 2

Holy fucking shit, please tell me, what 1 has that actually makes it better than 2.

How do you even play Two Worlds? It was so fucking brutal it made Gothic games seem kind and forgiving. I'd literally die to any enemy NPC before being able to accomplish anything once I got outside of the opening cave. It just felt janky and broken to a point that even me, a guy who liked Risen, Gothic 1 and 2, STALKER etc. couldn't get past the jank.

Help me bros

Atmosphere and exploration

I love the Diablo 2 sequel but why did they give it a weird name and lore reboot? Anyone else finds this odd?

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System Shock

I don't know why you would even bother to compare D1 and D2 beyond the fact that they're both controlled primarily by mouse. They're completely different games with different focuses. Also despite my based centrism i am gonna say a lot of you sound like you didn't play the shit out of D1 like I did. D2's extended play is much better than D1's. You run out of shit to do on one character pretty quick in D1.

>Warcraft
this is straight up contrarianism.
unless you are ignoring the first game entirely and saying that 2>3.

I see you and I respect but I don't agree with you.

The Witcher.

PoE sucks compared to D2. You're clear screens lazily within like ten levels of gameplay, there's no curve at all and the "main game" is just a chore to get through so you can mindlessly grind currency items.

They keep fucking it up with every update.

unironically this but unironically

>You're clear screens lazily within like ten levels of gameplay, there's no curve at all and the "main game" is just a chore to get through so you can mindlessly grind currency items.
Just like Diablo 2.

Final Fantasy
Donkey Kong Country
Zelda
XCOM
Modern Warfare and Blops

>atmosphere
Not in the slightest is diablo 1 better atmosphere wise, besides, thats subjective.

>exploration

Both have the same exploration, diablo 2 simply has a ton more.

Try again.

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Homeworld

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D2 is just grind with no substance

with a very select number of builds using ladder only stuff, sure.

You would never go out of your way in D2 to explore the level fully because the entire gameplay is rushing from one boss mob to another. This is not to mention that most of the areas are just bland nothingness. In D1 gold actually mattered, and so did shrines and random blue drops.

Comparing poe to D3 is better. but you're not doing your self any favors comparing against d2.
D2 has
>practically no stash space
>inventory clogged full of charms
>much slower to get through than poe
>only movement skill is teleport [either play sorceress or get enigma]
Your opinion of poe sounds like that of someone who hasn't seen the changes since 3.0 at the most. and maybe earlier than that.Every fault you've laid against poe,applies to d2 way more.

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>Rogue is the best class in the game
wrong

UT

elaborate

Unreal in general, for that matter. Unreal 2 is pretty mediocre.

>the game that throws movement skills and screen clearing skills at you from level one has a more consistent difficulty curve than the one that doesn't make you a high-speed mass murdered in the first hour of playing it
what are you even SAYING my man???

this is just plain wrong but it's so retarded i'm not bothering to answer all the shit points you bring

Being this wrong, and this mad.

Come on man, stop being a contrarian bitch. You better than that

cope

High level sorcerer is basically unkillable with mana shield. Can clear entire rooms with chain lightning and flame wave without even stepping inside.

you do run in spell immunities on hell difficulty tho

I came here to agree with this.

>that favelas near the industrial complex
Geez, enjoy your smog

so then build some str enough and get a switch weapon so you can whack the stuff that's spell immune

and that's the way the argument crumbles

>Bioshock
Wrong.

not really, nothing has the killing potential and survivability that sorc gets. on top of that, he can fight in melee if he has to. Meanwhile warrior and rogue can't use any of the good spells and have to rely on fighting one thing at a time.

A man of culture
I liked Cataclysm tho

100% correct
yes, halflife 2 sucked.

my pick:
Farcry

Valkyria Chronicles

You can't improve upon perfection.

just play the hell, or belzebub

>Dead Space
I approve of this mans opinion

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Resident evil 1 for ps1
smooth movement
no nonsense locations like in hd remake
zombies can be avoided at the right time so no need for that retarded wagglin to force them into an attack
has the best location, house feels like a puzzle similar to how good the police station is in 2 but bigger and better overall
They totally nailed it with the first title and first half of the second game, I dont understand what went wrong from there

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>I only ever got rushed in multiplayer and never explored the game myself on single player

So sad you never got to experience D2 the way it was meant to be.

Buzz words.

First up to bat, and you struck out. Embarrassing.

>Diablo, Silent Hill, GTA

negatory, my guy

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Tiberian Sun is really fun if you're not spamming/getting spammed with orcas but the first game is goddamn classic

based and unironically right

Blood.

Sonic the hedgehog
>better music
>better platforming
>no shitty sidekick

I have no idea how your post is supposed to make D1 sound better.
D1 = play one dungeon on normal over and over again
D2 = run a number of viable zones and bosses in all acts over and over again

Guild wars > Guild wars 2
to make it worse, GW2 has killed the servers of GW1 as they were immediately empty with little to do, besides henchmenbuild. fuck that.

i still miss those golden moments in gw

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ur right, d2 fagets are wrong

also play grim dawn. its more of a blend of 1 and 2.

agreed on bioshock.
bioshock>Infinite>bioshock 2

On normal ? Imagine beeing a so ignorant of Diablo 1 that you think theres no nightmare and hell difficulty.

Diablo 1 is slow and there is barely any content.

It's a product of its time.

D2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>D3>D1

Can you frequently finish Diablo 1 from start to finish in one go? I don't think i ever managed to do that

Diablo 2: Better multiplayer and longer game, a few more features.

Diablo 1: better single player campaign, better quests, better ambiance, better everything else pretty much. I have never been too into multiplayer, so 1 has always been my favorite.

Diablo 3: Odd man out. Ok game. Just does not feel like it belongs in the series. Feels more like your every day generic fantasy hack and slash. Throw some orcs and elves in there and they'd fit right in.

Speaking of Diablo:
WHEN THE FUCK DOES SEASON 17 OF D3 START
It's the 17th and I still can't make a new seasonal!

It takes ~5 hours for normal, so probably

>playing D3

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Grim Dawn 2 when?
I swear it's the only arpg thats close to Diablo 1/2 in terms of fun factor.

I've not got much else to play these days. I play D3 with the lads when we're not all at work.

>legend of grimrock

really? I was under the impression that 1 and 2 were pretty much the exact same thing but 2 had more features. I have never played either. I recently bought 2 on a sale... Guess I'll have to get 1 as well and see.

>starcraft
Maybe the campain.

OK but if you get cucked with gear then you're dead meat

Caves always fucks me up real good

D3 can be a fun grind for about a week at the start of every season.

That's about it, though.

>playing D3

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Pretty much this. It's a time-passer.

Dragon Age
Mass Effect
KOTOR
WITCHER
DEUS EX
Pillars of Eternity

You better get that Valor

it's fun co-op'ing with friends. Well at least it was the one time I did like 5 years ago.

you literally don't get half the quests in a single run since they're in groups of 2 or 3 and you only get 1 or 2 out of 'em on top of the mandatory quests

I mean they made the game actually drop shit for you, and playing on a new season on Torment 1 difficulty you can pretty much get to level 70 by the end of Act 2.

Valor awaits for the hero of light.. to awaken!

I agree. I used to like TTYD more, then I replayed it and realized that the backtracking was just awful. TTYD had higher highs, but much lower lowers, PM64 is nicely rounded.

I missed the idea behind Diablo 1 in terms of how rogue-like it was, where quests and items were there not to mid max your stats and follow linear quests, but simply just to survive.

Quake 2 had a better multiplayer compared to Quake 1 but the level design in the singleplayer was shit compared to 1.

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Dragon Age