Contrarian thread

>Hey check out my 'unpopular' opinion that's actually held by the majority.
Hey buddy I think you got the wrong door, reddit's two blocks down.

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*breaths in*

Yes, Dark Souls 2 is the best Souls game despite the shitty graphics.

Rdr2 and Nier are games of the generation

Artorias is overrated, Swim-like Rengar Q is better than AA Rengar Q, and Laurence is the best boss of the old hunters DLC

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>Skyrim is overrated piece of trash and both Morrowind and Oblivion are much better games
Isn't that plainly obvious? The game is horribly balanced and dumbed down. Most of the quests are shit. It's like Bethesda made the game super simple to appeal to retards while also trying to get away with only doing bare minimum surface level game content.

final fantasy X and X-2 are the best in the series

I don't think everyone on Yea Forums who disagrees with me is transgender

The NES is a shit system and any good NES game has a better SNES counterpart

Gen 5 is the best generation.

You're wrong tranny

I think Jewish girls are pretty and overall a good and honest people

>seething tranny

There is literally, honestly unironically nothing wrong with being Jewish.

>Contrarian
First search on google of each and every one of your "contrarian" opinions found people that agree with you.

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>missing the joke

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Gothic 3 is the best Gothic game.

100% OJ is a horrible game only popular because anime art style. Nobody plays it for more than once or twice a year.

No shit, sherlock

I still enjoy modern video games and I'm not a homo like the rest of Yea Forums

FFVII is front-loaded with some of the most obnoxious fucking pacing I have ever seen in a JRPG and it made me drop the game at fucking Costa Del Sol while I am fully aware that there's like 60 more potential hours of content.
LET ME GO 10 GODDAMN MINUTES WITHOUT A MINIGAME OR CUTSCENE OR FORCED WALKING AROUND A STATIC AREA BIT GOD ACTUAL DAMN.

UFC 3 is the best fighting game alive right now outside of Final Fuck

>game system that came later and was more advanced has better ports than the previous system
No fucking shit you retard.

You just opened up a can of worms BUCKO.

Dark souls isn't hard, it's poorly designed. No, that doesn't make it good, the only difficulty to be had from it is from clunky bad design. There's nothing to get good at.

Kingdom hearts was only ever OK at best, you're just flooded by nostalgia for a button masher with little depth because it has disney and final fantasy characters.

Minecraft never went bad, it just stopped receiving worthwhile updates that aren't more blocks, more mobs, and more useless items. Stamina and hunger were necessary balancing mechanics, otherwise you could just outrun everything in the game because the enemies are poorly designed.

Animal crossing city folk is better than new leaf. new leaf isn't bad at all, I've played the crap out of it, just city folks general design and feel is better. Before someone cries nostalgia, my first one was gamecube. I think this is also why we need another console one, handheld titles and spinoffs are poisoning the series now.

2D Mario hasn't been good since SMW. NSMB is clunky garbage. Super mario maker is just reskins and don't retain any of the original games feels.

Final fantasy hasn't been good since 10, and even I feel like that was a shallow hallway simulator on the realm of "IT GETS GOOD 20 HOURS IN XDDD". The magic system is top notch tho and blitzballs legit as fuck.

Melee>64>Ultimate>PM>>>>>>Brawl>>>>>>trash 4.

Resident evil 4 was only ok at best, it's completely overblown and is only praised because of its sales. The original series was much better by merit of general area design, atmosphere, pacing, music, enemies, and characters. RE2 remake is an unfaithful abomination.

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There isn't a single open world game where the world doesn't feel needlessly large.

Well, now you have some explaining to do.

Name a game that is hard without having poor game design, in your mind.

>64>Ultimate
hot

>Last of Us could be the most overrated game of all time
>Bloodborne is "just" a good Souls with less build variety and the same parry animation for all the weapons

1. You're gonna have to elaborate because there is obvious mechanical depth to Souls even though design flaws are also present.
2. True
3. By your own admission here Hunger is just a stopgap solution though otherwise I agree
4. City Folk is wasted potential, the City itself is useless. Can't say about New Leaf but my favorite was Wild World, and yes I grew up with GCN as well.
5. True
6. Is this even contrarian? I'm picking up XII Remaster to give it a whirl but the general consensus is that everything after X is various shades of bad
7. Again, is this even contrarian?
8. Re4 isn't trying to do what Re1-3 were doing so saying it's not an amazing game just because of the label is silly. I'm confused what you wanted from REmake2, REmake1 and 0 already proved that most people have moved on from classic Resident Evil and I say that as someone who loves REmake1 to death - 2 is much, much better.

I like #FE, more than Persona 4.

Bed of Chaos is a perfectly fine boss only hated by shitters who needed to grind stats to beat the game.

Easy, Castlevania.

It uses good enemy placement with proper and simple enemy design to challenge the player, rather than limiting the player which is a huge game design mistake. A developer should never attack the player, or intentionally limit their abilities to make up for poor creative direction.

It works as a collective whole to be a solid game rather than having conflicting design choices between the player and the enemies which cause frustration. If you wanted to use a "clunky on purpose" argument you can definitely use castlevania because it at least uses it properly and the game is designed around it rather than it being intentionally designed to hinder or limit.

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Broke:
>Bloodborne is just souls but stripped-down
Woke:
>Bloodborne was a beta test for Sekiro's combat, but had to be made on a less refined engine so that Sony would assist FROM in porting their engine forward to PS4

Crackdown 1

Here's my contrarian opinion: opinions can be factually and objectively wrong.

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I think vidya are still enjoyable.

Since you mentioned it:
Morrowind is overrated. Daggerfall was always the better game. I will never understand why everyone sucks its cock so hard.

>It uses good enemy placement with proper and simple enemy design to challenge the player, rather than limiting the player which is a huge game design mistake. A developer should never attack the player, or intentionally limit their abilities to make up for poor creative direction
Sounds like Dark Souls to me
Elaborate

Persona 5 has horribly written dialogue and plot. Every character says exactly what you expect their anime-archetype to say, and half the time they don't even react to what the other is saying, like they not only recorded in different rooms, but had two different writers for each character and no one even looked at what the other characters were saying.

The plot plays out exactly as you'd expect, the overwhelming majority of the villains spend their screen-time doing blatant evil. I don't need a Shyamalan twist or anything, but I don't want to see absolutely everything coming 10 dialogue boxes away.

Everyone writes it off as 'it's tounge-in-cheek, all the Persona games are like that' but even if that were the case, it doesn't make it good. I could tell what was a gag and what was supposed to grab my attention in P4, in P5 I honestly can't tell. Ryuji is such a generic 'punk' character, and I think he's the worst offender for bad dialogue. He absolutely never does anything outside of the parameters set by his archetype.

Everyone keeps saying it's a great RPG, and I just don't get it. The main draw of an RPG are the characters and plot, but even the gameplay isn't anything particularly amazing, it's just RPG combat. Which would be fine on it's own if I had any investment in the characters or the plot.

And nobody ever wants to explain what they like about it either, it's always blanket statements like 'I like the characters', or 'the combat system's amazing' Why? Why do you like either of those things, why am I pulling teeth just to get an explanation?

I'm sorry if you like it, and if I'm missing something amazing and not just 'lol I can fuck my teacher', please feel free to let me know.

Prove it

Story-focused 00's RPGs were the closest the medium has come to perfection. Everything else has either favored story or gameplay too much to the detriment of the other.

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You do know that a fuckton of people directly compare Dark Souls to Castlevania both in terms of how combat requires deliberate spacing and timing, and in regards to level design, right?
Dark Souls is incredibly close to a 3D Castlevania in spirit, and all of the factors you just listed are present in the best areas of the Souls games.
The problem is that most of the Souls games are flat out unfinished in at least a few areas.

GTA SA is overrated

>ignores half the gameplay
Bruh

Persona 5 is the flanderization of the Persona IP. Anyone who didn't expect this after seeing what 4 got turned into by its spinoffs is an idiot.

Also nobody likes these games for the combat, because the combat is baby easy. If the game actually stuck to its guns and had combat on the level of something like SMT Nocturne, that'd be a different story.

Facts:

Fallout 4 would be fun (or at least bearable to play, with mods) if the map wasn't dogshit. Skyrim and Fallout 3/NV all had vastly superior worlds.

HoTS is the best moba game by far, and mobas in general is a fun genre that is overshadowed by LoL's shitty design choices. Mobas are one of the best, top 3 at least, in genres to play with friends and have fun in a pvp environment. RTSs are too time consuming to get good at, FPSs are too janky and require everyone to be on similar skill levels, etc.
Mobas are underrated.

The Switch's portability is hugely underrated. I can only assume by NEETs who don't go anywhere or only exist in their room at their parents and don't even feel comfortable taking it around the house, playing on a chair, on a couch, etc.

Opinions:

Regarding the switch; every game that is on any other system (except games where keyboard+mouse is necessary) I would rather have on switch. Still holding out for P5 till e3 to see if the switch port is coming because the portability is so shockingly convenient. (I'm an idort and have a ps4, but I'd way rather have my library be on the switch)

Mario Odyssey was shit and I hated it, despite going in to it hoping to love it. I loved SM64 as a kid, but as an adult bing bing wahoo is awful. BOTW was fun and I enjoyed it a lot, despite the numerous flaws and relatively "empty" world. (I enjoyed not having a checklist of 80 things to do 3 hours in, for once.)

Divinity Original Sin II took too fucking long to get started and turned me off both continuing and multiple playthroughs. It had amazing mechanics and options but the act 1 of the game feels like it takes years. Fuck that island.

That's all I got off the top of my head.

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P5's combat is infinitely more interesting than fucking Nocturne. It's just insultingly easy and the bosses completely ignore the mechanics set in place to offer a modicum of difficulty.

Name one thing wrong with being jewish

Should I play DOS 2?

Ff7 is shit

Hooked noses are ugly

Shadow of War is a masterpiece. It literally oozes with soul

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That's the problem though, Castlevania's design aesthetic and ideas do not work in a 3D space, they're intended to work in a 2D space.

To make it work, you have to either strip abilities from the player or hinder them, or make the enemies outright huge swinging hitboxes to compensate for the space. Which results in a experience where rather than constant progression based on your abilities, you're forced to chug along comparatively to where, in a 2D space under the same constraints the gameplay would be much smoother. This is why most if not all 3D Castlevania games are seen as a failure, because it simply does not translate in a reasonable manner.

tl;dr It's quite literally artificially imposed difficulty because of the need to limit the player due to the intended 2D design philosophy simply not working as well in a 3D space.

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SOULFUL

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What constraints and limitations?

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Fuck you

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I thought it was super cool. A big part of it was trying to play with friends and that made organizing schedules and shit a nightmare. It's totally possible for people to run off and do entire quest things on their own, as well. It's ALSO impossible to hear what someone in your party is saying to someone else in the room unless you click on them to listen, but then you have to just sit there as they listen (or worse, skip dialogue before you can read/hear it because they're skimming through instead of immersing themselves.)

Those are a few issues, and my friends weren't as bad as I'm making them sound, but those issues did arise. If you have one or two good bros or gf who you'd be comfortable playing something like dungeons and dragons with, I'd definitely recommend. Some people enjoy playing it alone too, but I couldn't see myself staying interested playing it that way. Game still has amazing levels of detail in some parts though.

>Mass Effect 2 is garbage, the first game is objectively better in terms of both story and gameplay
>The same thing again, but replace Mass Effect with KOTOR
>Fallout 3 wasn't that bad, and was miles better than 4
>All of the Zelda games are bad, every single one of them

That's the general consensus you fucktard

Last one is correct

it's morally Right to pirate a game no matter what bullshit excuse you use.

It's a good thing that Dark Souls doesn't literally play like a 3D castlevania game but instead takes the design concepts and implements them into 3D space through interpretation, then.
What are you even on about here?
Also, "design aesthetic" like stfu man you know damn well that's not a word.

What specific problems do you have with Souls design? Just saying it's clunky isn't a criticism, because aside from DaS2 it's only clunky if you don't understand how to play.

Final Fantasy is just pokemon HD

I barely play games anymore.
It's not that I don't have time, I just can't be bothered much anymore

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>Fallout 4 would be fun (or at least bearable to play, with mods) if the map wasn't dogshit.

I wonder how much could you blame this on the whole "build your settlement" aspect , with its use of places that potential could have been something interesting, but instead are used only as a foundations for your settlements. What do you think about that?

>DaS
Not contrarian
>KH
Not particularly contrarian altough I see a lot of people here being fond on it, probabily for nostalgia as you said. I mtself think it's mediocre
>Minecraft
People think stamina ruined the game? I don't see anything contrarian in this part of your post
>AC
Quite unpopular here, altough I agree a game should not be too long only on handhelds for not being "mobiliezed" with time.
>Mario
I think there are more people that detract NSMB that the other way around.
>FF died with 10
How that's contrarian again?
>melee rocks, tr4sh and Brawl a shit lol lol kek
Yeah, ""contrarian""
>RE4 was bad
Quite unpopular, yes.
>PSX REs were the best
Wew the "contrary"
>REmake 2
I don't think it has been an unanimous judgemwment on the gane anyway.

Are you referring to the stat and relationship building mechanics? I don't think those are bad in concept, but the writing involved with those tasks are just as bad in almost every scenario. It just feels like an excuse to kiss the players ass most of the time, and I find it really patronising.

Two of my friends that were defending it to me eventually replied with 'I dunno, I just think the combat's fun.' I'm not some Persona oldfag either, I played 4 and had fun, that's all. I wouldn't feel so strongly about 5 if not for how big it's gotten.

Fun fact, I think Switch's portability is vastly overrated. I don'T get the couch/chair point, I mean every console uses wireless controllers nowadays and playing on a couch in front of a big tv is as comfy as it gets. Also playing games on the go simply does not work for a lot of genres. Playing a game like Silent Hill 2 while being sorrounded by people is exactly what this game does not need. At all.

SMT is better than Persrona and people need to recognize that it's the better Atlus series.

1. Nah FO4 is dogshit anyways, it's a loot n shoot pretending to be an RPG
2. Mobas are cancer
3. Carrying a Switch around makes the entire planet cringe. Just playing in your house wherever is fine.
4. Wanting games to be on factually less powerful systems is retarded and you're starting to sound like a shill
5. What in god's name is even this opinion

It's NOT okay to use "it's fun" as an excuse for liking shit games, or for refusing to get good.

They build atmosphere and provide a good break from the normal dungeon crawl
And the writing is at least serviceable
You’d like 3 a lot more

Bot's are good. People grinding their live away in mmo's is a waste of human resources.

[insert your favorite game here] is the worst game ever made.

Counterpoint: if SMT were the more popular IP it'd be getting the Persona treatment by Atlus

Persona 3-5 > Nocturne

100% that is the reason. The entire northwest of the map is "beginner area" shit. The north, northeast and west part of the map are barren "settlement locations" and then the middle is the city, with the 2 towns, and south of that is a swamp with a few huts. Everything else is ocean (like half the fucking map) or THE ZONE which is cool the first time but has basically nothing interesting since they scrapped so many armor types and weapons - which, on that note - the weapons are all fucking pipe pistols and shit because they made the weapon system customizable like the settlement system, instead of just having fun and unique weapons.

I only realized after modding in tons of cool houses, weapons, armor, animations, graphics settings, etc. etc. etc. that I couldn't fix one thing - the map.

Reach was good, the expanded Forge map tools and broadened multiplayer sandbox were great additions to the game but it felt like Bungee didn't have time to really implement them well into the multiplayer presets so some of the maps suck a lot of dick. The community maps and gametypes as well as DLC started to make up for that though.
Sadly the best gametype was that generator defense variant that was only in the beta and it never got brought back.

>Caesar's Legion is the best faction in Fallout NV
They'd create a lot more interesting canon in the Fallout universe if they continued to blob out and to Cali and further north, assimilated tribals, and then collapsed. Think of a game where you could have your own faction and start reuniting the wasteland in your own vision where all of the other tens of factions dynamically waged war and shit. Not like organized either, you'd have raider nations or just roving clans of nomads as well as established settlements. Could be good if not Bethesda made it.

To me the map was fine. Not great, but not the reason why Fallout 4 failed either. The skill & perks system and how it did not affect the dialoge-options at all was my biggest problem with the game. In NV I could tell caesar that he had a certain illness because I had certain skills, or I could tell him how to survive/heal him because I was good in crafting too. In 4, all you could do, and sadly all you needed to do therefore, was skill charm. That was the only stat that actually had an effect.

Depends on lifestyle. I know on Yea Forums everyone assumes "portability" to mean taking your best katana+fedora+mlp shirt and going to a park bench somewhere, but - for one example - a friend of mine is a home-care nurse who spends a lot of his day in his car waiting for appointments, so he brings his switch around and plays whatever while he waits. I have actor friends as well that play on their hour break during rehearsals. There's a lot of people who benefit from it. Fair enough on the silent hill thing though, I still think a lot of games are best on PC, alone.

>Nah FO4 is dogshit anyways, it's a loot n shoot pretending to be an RPG
True but it's still a fun open world loot and shoot, or at least it could have been.
>Mobas are cancer
I used to think so too. And again, I think most people think that simply because of LoL or DoTA which are both total cancer. My point is, it's underutilized.
>Wanting games to be on factually less powerful systems is retarded and you're starting to sound like a shill
Most games run fine on switch, but yeah, I guess if it's a game that needs to be a beautiful 1080p/4k masterpiece of graphics then it's fine that they don't downgrade it just to put it on switch. Most of those games lean on their graphics and "immersive cinematic experiences" too much though, IMO.
>What in god's name is even this opinion
idk what you mean because I had like 3 opinions after the last one.

wow ive never seen a more pseud collection of words on this board on this site Yea Forums

Black Sabbath got better after Ozzy left.

>Quake 1 starts ok then turns into irredeemable shit later on
>Serious Sam series is complete trash
>Thief 1 has some incredibly bad levels and Thief 2 is overall a more enjoyable experience
>System Shock 1 is better than System Shock 2
>Hollow Knight is extremely bland and only has a couple of decent bosses
>DDLC is a good VN
>Metroid Prime series is more enjoyable than the 2D games
>FF is an ok franchise, but VIII is the best one
>Gothic games are boring as fuck
>Transistor is boring as fuck
>Furi is boring as fuck
>God of War (2005) is boring as fuck
>VTMB is boring as fuck

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Being a Jew lol

>>Skyrim is overrated piece of trash and both Morrowind and Oblivion are much better games
Fucking hell OP very brave of you to make such a statement on Yea Forums of all places.

MvCI is better than DBFZ

Final Fantasy 7's story and characters were poorly written garbage. Also Aerith's death wasn't tragic, she died because she ran off like a retard. Bitch had it coming.

Crisis Core was the only good game spawned from it.

OH YESSSSS FINALLY THIS THREAD
>Sonic 06's plot was good, Silver is the best character with Metal Sonic in the entire series
>Bomberman should have been a playable fighter in Smash
>Fortnite is overrated kiddie trash that shouldn't ask for money when you want to get skins
>People who hate on other people's opinions are shit
>Smash Bros. and all franchises who appear in it are the best videogame franchises of all time
>I hate when people that want a character fight people who want another character because "they don't deserve to be in Smash"
>Kingdom Hearts is a good franchise
>Platform fighters are the best genre ever
>All videogames need to be equally respected, no matter what genre, series or issue they have, but you can decide the level of respect you want to put into a game
>This website's (and this board's) opinions are toxic and I only browse it for Smash leaks that help me in killing the wait for the next fighter

Wireless controls are trash and if you can play with them without noticing the latency you’re brain dead. Similarly with TV’s or monitors with a greater than 1ms response time.

Runescape is shit and cringe, if you play it you definitely have some form of autism.

Gaming peaked in the mid 2000’s and will never return to that stage of having growing-Industry money in the hands of passionate people with a vision. Gaming will be become more and more of a product until they reach board game status, with only die hard fans even noticing games other than recurring yearly releases and special editions.

Interactive movies(Sony games) are fine but should embrace the moniker instead of pretending to be something they’re not. Playing a movie where you can change the plot or ask characters your own/different questions is a really cool idea but they’re not games. Which is fine.

Fable is easily one of the best games of all time, and everyone would agree if they weren’t still all butthurt about stupid bullshit the studio director said in its promotion.

The consumer has a duty to recognize when a company is full of shit, and gamers aren’t taken to task as readily as the companies that make the games are. When Todd Howard says fallout 76 will have “30 times the detail” of fallout 4, and you believe him, that is when a specially created shotgun shell loaded collar should activate and remove you from the gene pool.

WoW was never about the gameplay, ever, and was 100% about adventuring with friends. The combat isn’t fun, the story is retarded post wrath, and the sub fee is ludicrous.

Sekiro doesn’t interest me and seems like every other souls game but with extra gimmicks. Clearly the creator has tapped the well dry with what he can make and has resulted to a formula, and it’s gotten old. Ds1 was good for it’s time and filled a niche gaming didn’t know it had, but has made 0 meaningful progress since then.

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>interesting
>else exploit weaknesses or spam Phys attacks
I am thankful for Instakill skill of Ryuji, lets me skip shitload of annoying combat.

then that's just any opinion common to this board, Yea Forums is always contrarian to the world

Rapid health regeneration in FPS games is unironically vastly superior to any sort of static health, pickup and medkit systems.

Found the tranny

Undertale is bad

I think anyone over 30 playing games more than a day or two a week are incels

>Similarly with TV’s or monitors with a greater than 1ms response time.
Fucking yikes, my dude. Mount stupid right here. Response time in monitors is a marketing bullshit term, whether it's 1ms or 5ms you won't humanly notice, ever.
The actually relevant spec is input lag, which is largely unrelated and never officially advertised. Also no monitor ever goes below 10ms as far as input lag is concerned, and even 20ms here is considered excellent and CSGO pro material.

On /vp/ maybe, not everywhere, niggerfag.

Doom 2016 was the most repetitive annoyingly garbage shit I have ever played in my life. It’s easily the most overrated game I’ve ever paid for. It’s the same fucking animations over and over and over and over and over and over and over. I refunded the game and torrented it to see if I missed out on anything past the two hour mark. Nope, just the same executions over and over and over. Only a soi boy could get so excited over how OMG BRUTAL DOOMGUY XD ANGRY this boring of a game is. Add in the obligatory rpg-lite elements, and all the cringe characters, and you have a game that if called by literally any other name, would be a 6/10 on everyone’s scorecards at BEST.

Jet Set Radio is a great game and Jet Set Radio Future is merely a good game. I just don't think Future is as well designed of a game and feel like all the changes made to make it 'big' and 'open world' just made it worse. Also I like the momentum and controls of the original JSR because they make total sense considering you're controlling a character wearing inline skates. They feel a lot more natural and predicable, Future just goes from 0 to 100 in a second and momentum concerns are basically not a thing. Also, I don't care for some of Future's levels like the huge mazelike ones. Overall it's a good game though and I prefer Future's OST. The original JSR is my favorite game of all time, to be fair, but also consider that I was absolutely ready for Future to be better than it when I first started playing, I went in wanting to love it and just didn't. So don't give me any of this nostalgiafag/bias shit

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Fallout 3 and NV are terrible games and Fallout 4 improves on them in almost every way.

2ch,/vp/,even reddit if i remember and more.
you cant beat the peak of BW2

>>Mass Effect 2 is garbage, the first game is objectively better in terms of both story and gameplay.
Agreed the RPG elements were gutted to 'appeal to a wider audience'.

DmC is good
only other competently told story outside of 3
Levels are aesthetic as fuck
Some genuinely funny moments in the writing
the definitive edition rebalanced everything and made getting higher style ranks much more difficult.
This is the most unpopular opinion on Yea Forums though

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But I play all the time and regularly have sex.

What's your excuse?

Smash is a party game, not a fighting
Soulsborne games are boring but DS 2 is the only bearable one
Nintendo haven't made a single good console after SNES
Emulation is shit because it's not perfect and by emulating instead of playing on original hardware you are robbing yourself out of experience
The story sucked but the game itself is solid 8/10

Let me guess, you are shooter fan, don't care about rpgs and never played the first two games.

You can tell who’s never gone outside in their lives by a response like this. Only a brain dead plebeian fool with completely undeveloped reflexes and hand eye coordination from a lack of playing sports and physical development as a human being would argue this. Someone who has no idea just how incapable and useless their body and brain are, because they’ve never used them. A person who is beyond redemption, who’s neural pathways will never be realized to their actual potential, stunted by a sedentary slob of a lazy person. I lament your impotence

It's the general consensus everywhere dude.

There is a reason unovabortions are the new genwunners. The "BEST GEN HURR DURR" circlejerking is cancerous.

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>Mass Effect is trash; it fails as a shooter and it fails as an rpg offering a shallow take on both
>Soulsshit is just like its main character, a soulless rotting husk of nothing that freaks like to stick their dick in. It survives on memes and streamer popularity
>World of Warcraft's sole design is based on how much the game can waste your time to make you buy more gametime. It accomplishes this through rare drops necessary for crafting and long flight-paths

You really hate being told you're wrong, huh?

>Gaming peaked in the mid 2000’s and will never return to that stage of having growing-Industry money in the hands of passionate people with a vision. Gaming will be become more and more of a product until they reach board game status, with only die hard fans even noticing games other than recurring yearly releases and special editions.
I fear this. God, do I fear this.
Newcomers with wild and innovative ideas will be pushed away in defense of the the tried and true, protecting the investors money by making the same game over and over an over again. This industry is doomed. I need a new hobby.

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Just turned 30, play games with friends almost every night and have a fiance.

Morrowind is so contrarian these days that claiming it's good is contrarian and claiming it's bad is contrarian. Morrowind is fucked. Here's one that is pretty contrarian
>gamer chairs actually improve your performance and are worth the money
>payed mods are a good thing
>Yea Forums is for video game discussion

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Metal gear survive is better than metal gear solid V. I feel like V was too cinematographic and I was repeating old missions over and over because I could just kill everything and rush to the destination and get too score because of the time.

>Gaming peaked in the mid 2000’s and will never return to that stage of having growing-Industry money in the hands of passionate people with a vision. Gaming will be become more and more of a product until they reach board game status, with only die hard fans even noticing games other than recurring yearly releases and special editions.
I'm not saying I strictly agree with you, but I think there's definitely some kind of noticeable difference between games and gaming culture before and after the 360/PS3/Wii console generation started. One that's way more than the difference between PS1/N64/DC and PS2/GC/Xbox. Gaming continued into the PS2 era. Gaming changed upon going into the PS3 era. But what really changed? Why does gaming feel different?

guys i can trust to browse my D drive.

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The vast majority of Yea Forums is between the age of 14-18 and their "opinions" shouldn't be taken serious at all.
RTSs were already a niche genre, but the cancer that is MOBAs is what poured the dirt on top of it. Shame since it was one of the more interesting genres.
Yukari is the best Persona 3 girl and people only hate her because she reminds them of real women.
There needs to be another gaming crash with all this crap filling up the market as well. It's too inflated with walking simulators and political infested games.

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>response time doesn’t matter bro
>refresh rate doesn’t matter bro
>every monitor is good bro it’s about input lag and they don’t even tell you it bro they’re just good bro
Sounds like someone typed that on a $50 Acer monitor and has some sour grapes they’re sucking on

The AI controlled party members in Persona 3 made the game better.

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Monster Hunter World is fucking garbage.

>pulling this much shit out of your ass to cope
Sounds like you were lied to by marketing and didn't do actual research on the hardware you bough.

is it an unpopular opinion that most of Yea Forums are underage shitters? I thought that was just a fact
>create discord
>invite people from Yea Forums
>most of them outright admit to being underaged
Daily reminder that if you are under 18 on Yea Forums you need to fucking leave. 100% the reason why threads always end up breaking into arguments, and 100% why bait threads exist is because stupid ass little kids want to argue with neckbeards on a mongolian basket weaving forum.

Personally I don't find the writing serviceable. But I respect your opinion. I can probably find time for P3 this year but I almost don't want to like it because then the oversaturation of P4 stuff might become upsetting to me

The industry will decline and never see another golden age until all of us posting here are long dead and gone.

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Correct. The way I see it, if a game has bad gameplay then it has fundamentally failed as a game. Fallout 3 and New Vegas have awful gameplay, and are therefor awful games. I'm sure they have good stories, but I'll never know since they play so awfully.

Minecraft is the only decent open world game.

>But what really changed?
The target audience. While games could have been considered "mainstream" since the 80s with their aggressive TV ads and all, they had a clear demographic: dudes who like video games.
Since the advent of phones, facebook and the bazinga generation, game industry extended their target audience to "literally everyone". If you don't like video games, we'll make you like them.

People forget how big that generation was. It’s cool to hate Halo now because of what it turned into, but I can tell you, seeing Master Chief on slurpee Cups changed everything. There hadn’t been a video game MC with that kind of notoriety since Mario, which was just a little too early technology wise for a broad appeal. Ever since halo 2, Jews out there in the financial world took notice of gaming and see it only as a cash cow to be exploited for all its worth, which is what is currently happening. Eventually it will be supplanted by a better form of entertainment, and a console will be like a Risk board you pull out on a rainy day

Open world games are just an excuse to squeeze as much game time into a title by making your dumbass explore a huge world that's filled with nothing.

I really liked Starbound and Metal Gear Survive
Witcher 3 and dark souls games are totally overrated
Stalker and Gothic are total shit
Borderlands 2 is a solid game beside memes

totally agree

I bought a switch In day one and I only play sometimes, I play PC and PS4 mostly but can agree that Switch is the best console

>Believing response-time marketing
>If you believe Todd marketing you should be removed from the gene pool
You do see the error in this, right?

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I think people who worry that game unions will ruin AAA games are retarded, because AAA games are already ruined.
I haven't bought one in years.

I really liked souls game and bought a PS4 for bloodborne
Only played until the second boss, the frame rate is horrible and the gameplay is really cluncky, I prefer DSII over Bloodborne way better

I had a lot of fun with DMC, story was meh but I agree with the rest

Any game that's reliant on sex fanservice is automatically worse as a result, like Splatoon, Xenoblade, Bayonetta, Breath of the Wild, etc. People only like these games because they can masturbate to the tits, and those who claim "I'd totally like it without the tits, promise" would be the first to shriek and rage if the tits were taken out. So they can't be trusted.

The same can be said of story heavy games. Only campy californian hipsters would actually look at a video game and say "yeah this needs more segments where I'm NOT playing it, because muh immersion is more important than gameplay".

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fucking right

>Splatoon
>sex fanservice
You have issues.

Fan service is the icing on the cake. It makes something good even better. Of course people are mad when Sony censors out a part people all love because some faggot dyke said it's problematic.

Where do you think we are, faggot?

Detroit Become Human is a great game and does the CYOA thing better than anything Telltale ever made
The majority of worthwhile games released in the past couple years are big budget Triple A games
The Last of Us, Half Life 2 and Ocarina of Time are my favorite games
DMC1 has aged like milk and doesn't come close to 3, 4 and 5
Fighting games other than Smash and Mortal Kombat are boring
BOTW is a 7/10 and the weakest 3D Zelda besides Skyward Sword
OoT is better than MM, but both are 10/10 games
There's nothing wrong with playing on easy
Half Life 2 is better than 1
Fear 2 is better than 1
Rockstar hasn't made a good game since Midnight Club 1
Kamiya's only good game is Viewtiful Joe 1
MGS 1, 2 and 3 are good games but no one can legitimately put them among the greatest of all time because of the controls. They're horrendous in all three games even at the best of times.
The Souls games are generic, by the numbers dungeon crawlers with boring, stupid plots and a relentlessly obnoxious fanbase.
Counter Strike is garbage in all configurations
Far Cry 5 is a great game and the best in the series
Sonic was never good
Doom, Quake, and most retro games have aged like shit
There's nothing wrong with not putting female characters in skimpy outfits
Cheating in multiplayer games is hilarious. Using LMAOBox in TF2 is a great time, especially while micspamming and changing your name

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In case of Xenoblade 2, it clearly wasn't the icing. It was the whole cake, a gacha waifu fanservice with some rpg elements cake.

You wouldn't even touch the game unless it had tits. You don't care about the gameplay if tits are on your mind.

>Far Cry 5 is a great game and the best in the series
want to buy it, how are the DLC? should I buy the gold edition or something?

The Vietnam one is okay if you're into the setting. The other two about Mars and zombies are both shit, don't even bother with them.

>le aged like milk

Ok lets get REAL contrarian
>I hate Diablo 2 because the graphics suck
>I also hate counter strike because you cant play recklessly
>Love Brawl but hate Sm4sh even though they are equally slow
>Minecraft is for multiplayer only, and no mining autism
>all roguelites suck after 5-10 hours

>I'm going to tell you how you think because otherwise my argument falls flat
Classic Yea Forums

>go into thread about waifu game
>try and talk about the gameplay
>get called a faggot before porn gets spammed

Yeah, I'm sure these people want legitimate discussion.

this is a fact, not an opinion

okami is mediocre at best and heavily recycles all of it's assets to the point of it becoming exhausting to play. There wasn't a time in the game where I didn't say "really I have to fight this guy for the 5th time?" for pretty much every enemy and boss in the game. if you thought fighting the same boss three times in skyward was bad then you have no reason to claim this game is any better because you have to fight VIRTUALLY EVERY BOSS MORE THAN THREE TIMES. Some up to 5 or even 7 times because they re-skinned the bosses as normal enemies or as other bosses. all the enemies are the fucking same too.
the story is a fucking mess too and makes no god damn sense whatsoever. The digging mingame is fuckin stupid and you have to do it 6 fucking times. One of the wall faggot minigames is ACTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE for a normal human being and can only be beaten by using a camera to record. The deungeons are incredibly forgettable and the bosses of said dungeons are too due to already stated reasons. The combat is samey and there are only three weapons in the game that are reskinned.

the only thing good about the game is the artstyle.

worst games ever made are racing sims and flight sims

These are not contrarian opinions op
>souls game are covering how hollow and uninspiring they are with dificulity
>input lag and cast time are artificial dificulity
>ps4 exclusives are good
>shooters are boring
>remasters are a good thing

>user says he thinks fanservice is just the icing on the cake
>but according to another user, he doesn't actually think that because reasons
>I find it funny and call it classic Yea Forums
What does your post have to do with this?

>user says he thinks fanservice is just the icing on the cake
And like I said before, he doesn't care about the cake and will refuse to eat it unless theres icing on it.

And like I already said, you're telling someone else what they think despite you not being them, and them already saying they don't think that.

Their actions speak more than their words. You can't say that you care about gameplay when you happily approve of thread after thread of porn spam and shitposting.

And how do you know that anons actions? Someone can like both fanservice and gameplay. That's a fact.

Gaming is for fun only. If you give a single fuck on what people play their games at and how they play them then you care more about your epeen, you sad fuck

HOWEVER, the exception to this is multiplayer vidya. If you're not there to got gud/actually play the game then GTFO. If you're the type of faggot that goes friendly in TF2 on a regular basis, then eat shit and die.

Retro FPS fags are some the biggest brainlet in vidya and are piss easy to trigger. Worse than SJWs. I believe the reason for this is that many of them are sad poor-fags that can't afford better PCs and games so it doesn't take much to get them mad

I do not give a flying fuck about Epic vs Steam. If 1 offers a better deal on something I want I will use it.
>inb4 malware spybot
Was disproved on your own website, you fucking Redditor

>Click casual
>Wtf why are people acting casually?!?

>And how do you know that anons actions?
Simple: ask him if I'm a "fucking SJW" because I want to remove fanservice from games. I'm not talking about censoring them, I mean literally removing them period, so only the gameplay remains.

If you want sexy anime tits, go watch porn. Same reason why I don't care about story or high definition graphics. I can do without all of them, thank you very much.

Truth

>Simple: ask him if I'm a "fucking SJW" because I want to remove fanservice from games
That's a problem in principle. By removing what is in a game, you are dictating what other people can or cannot experience just because you don't like it. If a creator wants to put fanservice in their game for fans to enjoy alongside the gameplay, then who are you to say otherwise?

Tell me, what type of person likes to limit what others have in their media because of their own preferences?

I think TloU is good

>By removing what is in a game, you are dictating what other people can or cannot experience just because you don't like it.
I'm not asking to censor it. I'm simply asking how the game is somehow worse without the titties. I'm not touching the gameplay, so at no point are you allowed to say that I ruined the game. It's all about priorities.

>if a creator wants to put fanservice in their game, who are you to say otherwise
Maybe they shouldn't be relying on fanservice and should actually make a good game first. Respecting others freedoms is all fine and dandy until they start encouraging degeneracy that destroys any discussion about the game. I'd rather dictate what other people can enjoy if the alternative is 500 threads obsessing over 2B's butt, or wanting to sniff Nia's farts, or having your balls crushed by Bayonetta's gun-heels.

Battlefield 5 is actually a pretty damn good online shooter but it just had a rough launch and needed more maps.

The shooting is on point and they are actually adding variety to the modes every month to switch things up like Fortress.

Dark Souls 1 is just a worse Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 3 is just a worse Dark Souls 1.

>let's play a casual game of basketball
>(You) decide not to play at all and act like a friendly
>everyone else decides to leave you and go elsewhere and/or kick your ass for being an fgt
>nogginjoggin.jpg

>I'm not asking to censor it. I'm simply asking how the game is somehow worse without the titties.
From the previous post:
>I'm not talking about censoring them, I mean literally removing them period, so only the gameplay remains.
You are removing something that others see as an enjoyable element to a game. You just admitted to yourself that
>I'm not touching the gameplay
so how would the gameplay improve if you removed it?

>Maybe they shouldn't be relying on fanservice and should actually make a good game first
Where was this implied? I clearly stated alongside gameplay, not instead of gameplay, and so did the other user when he mentioned it's nice to have in a game that is already good.

>Respecting others freedoms is all fine and dandy until they start encouraging degeneracy that destroys any discussion about the game. >I'd rather dictate what other people can enjoy
So you admit you are okay with this just because you are not seeing the discussion you want? You are saying others priorities are backwards when you are advocating for this kind of behaviour. I'm not saying you are SJW, but does it really surprise you that people don't like others limiting what they can create and enjoy, especially for such subjective reasons?

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If you have to ask why the game is worse without titties, you automatically invite the response of, well why is the game better without titties? If you’re so above it all why does it bother you so much? You clearly don’t want them, so just say it instead of tip toeing around your point like a little faggot. You’re saying something should be removed, but can’t find the courage or words to explain why they should be other than not liking them, which you won’t admit, because you’re too afraid to confirm that you do in fact care, and that you do in fact want to censor/dictate what goes into peoples games based on your preference. That’s your platform, one of someone who wants to take something away from other people even though you say it doesn’t affect you. Which you then admit it does because you’re annoyed by people making threads of them, which happens with literally every game, wether it’s 2B’s ass or Gaping Dragon porn. Incredible doublethink user I award you a 6.5/10

Persona 4 is the best Persona game.

>I’m not touching the gameplay
>make a good game
Okay so the core of your argument lies on your twisted discord tranny mental idea of a World where a game with attractive females could not possibly have good gameplay. Sounds like someone missed their bi-daily estrogen pill and is a little cranky

Pokémon peaked with emerald and if you still play you need to grow up. Srs.

I genuinely liked Other M.

It had objectively the best gameplay in the metroid franchise.

No game will be a timeless classic, baldur's gate without ee sucks ass fallout 1 & 2 are have terrible mapping and shit gameplay, this also includes games like pre morrowind elder scrolls fuck you zaric daggerfall is utter shit and your nostalgia blind as should grow up

What mechanical depth does Dark Souls have?

>There's nothing wrong with the epic games store
>anime sucks and visual novels are not video games
>frogposters are normie shitposters and should fucking kill themselves asap
>reddit is ain't that bad
>alt-right cummunity are all toxic manchildren and they are worse than SJW's
>there is nothing wrong with women in video games
>there is nothing wrong with video game journalism
>Battlefield 5 is a decent game, but lacks content
>Call of Duty: Infinite warfare was a good game
>Dark Souls sucks and has shitty hitboxes
>New doom is better than original doom
>GTA4 is better than GTA5
>Star Wars: The Last Jedi was a decent movie
>CNN is better than Fox News (Fox News is an american version of Russia Today)
>Hate Speech is not free speech and should be banned
>Op is not a fag, he's a decent person

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Nigger you stopped talking vidya halfway through your post
Get back to lurking

Final Fantasy 1 is the best in the series and one of the best traditional JRPGs of all time.

Overall though, Dragon Quest is a better series.

Castlevania was better as a linear level-based game than a Metroid copy.

Proto Man is the only good character Capcom has ever made.

Super Mario Bros 2. JP is the best Mario game.

Lupin the Third is better than Cowboy Bebop. (Though I still like Bebop)

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bump

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you were okay until you started shitting on resident chad 4. this was the turning point from heterosex to homosex.

well i am not over 30 but i have four over 30 gamer friends who definitely play more that that and all of them are even married.

People who say ff8 sucks are fucking retards who only played it on an emulator and looked up guides on how to do everything efficiently

>hurrr u can spam card games to get the strongest spells ever then lvl up your GF so you can get passives which prevent enemies from spawning so you never get exp ever
>i totally knew that without looking it up
>this game is so shit because of broken mechanics