WARHAMMER VERMINTIDE 2

blocking takes more skill than sidestepping, youre not hot shit for picking shade and spamming sidedodge all game with daggers.

Neither takes the skill, you just use whatever is more apropriate for the situation

*oneshots stormvermin*

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>Max up kruger
>fun
>Max up elf
>shit
>max Bardin
>having fun, thinking Slayer is retarded
>get up to level 12 with Victor
Holy Sigmar, how is zealot this retardedly broken?

Have they still not increased the fucking item level cap yet, I stopped playing after I got all my perfectly rolled bullshit

I don't really know anything about Warhammer but it doesn't seem to be my kind of thing BUT, co-op games are my jam and they're the only games I every actually put lots of hours into. Should I give this game a shot?

Yes. Warhammer Fantasy is way easier to digest than 40k. It's mostly generic fantasy with a few standouts like the Skaven and Vampires.

Doesn't it get boring going through the same levels over and over?

Yes, thankfully map maker tools are coming out soon. Some creators have already been given access.

Not really, the L4D-style Director keeps things interesting, and the gameplay's fun enough you won't get bored with shooting ratbois or smelly Northerners.

Okay I'm sold.

Zelot is not even half as op as WHC with rapier

>wonky hitboxes and enemies hitting you with the afterimage of their sword.
Only if you have a bad pc and internet connection

Perhaps not for the items but the level for the heroes will increase in the new expansion.
Also your reason to quit is dumb.

Warhammer fantasy actually hits more into dark fantasy.

IF YOU SHOOT ME ONE MORE TIME WUTELGI

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I remember the memes when the game was hot. Good times.

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BY THE HAMMER

Rats go home

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I wish every first person game used this as a basis for their melee

rats
50+ gb of nothing
pretty good game that gets worse the more time/effort you put into it
awful brainlet devs
a strong lack of the really good vermintide 1 dlc maps
incredible voice acting, bardin is the best

This picture will never fail to make me smile
it's just too good

It's my favorite first person melee combat ever

It's a good one. Warham Fantasy is also good. Just ignore anything related to "The End Times", it's dogshit. Vermintide has almost nothing related to that besides the name.

The engine they use is good and easier than Unreal for them (they made it themselves) but it has a big limitation in that every map's assets have to be drawn from its own directory. Compare that to something like L4D2 where Volvo has a "pool" of assets that each map draws from, basically Vermintide has to duplicate assets for each map separately, rather than all maps drawing from one pool.

tl;dr it the fatal flaw of the engine and makes the game massively bloated

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>Back in the day
>Beam mage
>One shot BH
>Machine gun kurber
Of course they gonna fix everything and took the fun away from a non-competitive coop game

never saw this one, fucking great

>actually have to use melee on pyro now

just

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Warhammer Fantasy doesn't require you to know everything as most things are basic and you'll understand by looking. There are otherwise tons of references and of course in universe stuff you wont understand unless you read a bit into the Lore.
But you won't have any major problems and the gameplay is satisfying.

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All broken and retarded meta builds.
Why would you expose yourself as a shitter?

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Because they're unironically fun

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I remember many things but not having "fun" playing alongside meta shitters who only played the same careers across all heroes for months just to powergame like a massive faggot.
Worst thing was that everything non meta was kicked or ridiculed for a very long time.
That was easily the worst period of the game and Im glad the majority of those shitters dropped the game after some nerfs.

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You might have had fun with beammage. But it was at the cost of 3 other people on your team being bored and not having fun.

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>fucking ratties squatting in a city of their betters

I really want a dwarf-centered game about retaking holds. Karak Eight Peaks will belong to the dawi once again.

Only if you never play a different class and stick to only 1 build.

I already thought about a three way battle game between Dawi, Raki and Urks in constant conquest against the K8P.
Coule be a nice game like Team Fortress or the likes.

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Neither takes skill. Dodging is simply a required mechanic like hitting the enemy. Without it you're worthless

retarded elf players that fuck you over constantly

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Depends.
If you burn yourself out quickly you're to blame but the game offers enough stuff to do even of you play 1-3 times a week.
Like try out new builds, beat everything on highest difficulty, get achievements, fashion yourself up etc.
Hol up.
I know they work on them but they already gave out access?
You know what was done with that already?

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Good moments in this game is too rare.

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It's more of a beta access. To help them with how to make the map tools better.

Ahh ok that makes sense.
Do you know by chance how much are we actually allowed to create out of the Warhammer franchise and what kind of regulations did Games Workshop set up for it?

>whc
>can actually die
>Zealot
>*laughs in temp hp*

a better l4d but with rats and pagan devil worshippers instead of zombies

>Getting hit
??????

Are you guys excited for the Beastmemes expansion?

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L4D that represents muslim invasion of europe.
>"Hard to believe this is the work of men, even if they are foreigners"
Fatshark is B&R

garbage faggoty game with no versus pvp mode. 2 SJW female characters. theres literally NO fucking excuse to have a character in warhammer, ESPECIALLY warhammer fantasy. this is a fucking disgrace. as for the gameplay its fucking stupid spam mouse button ETERNAL GRINDFEST, point of this game is to replay every level million times so u just get better gear. that is all. its absolute fucking trash. 1 overgeared high level guy can solo through low lvl dungeons WITHOUT EFFORT simply due to his gear stats and without skill how it is in l4d2, ruining the experience for other players

absolute irredeemable garbage game/10 and extreme disgrace to warhammer franchise

>playing safe and slow
I have better things to do.

This reads like a Steam review from an underage boy.

I mean more variety is nice but only 1 level? That Winds of Magic mode better be fucking good, and I hope they price it accordingly even though I know they won't.

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*inhales*

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You can look forward to giving all your information to the Chinese Communist Party, you dumb fucking gweilo. Who am I kidding, you probably already have.

>gets killed by an Elf with knives

The maps actually look nice at least the Jade one, but it sucks that it will have only one map for the Beastmen.
They put too much faith into that WoM mode anyway which is a huge gamble.
I would prefer that they focus on new maps instead, but its sadly too late for that all and I hope the new enemies and weapons will make up for that.

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Nice steam review, faggot.

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This is why my standard greeting for every game I join is 'Hello, nice day to remember the tiananmen square massacre isn't it?'

incompetent devs

>what am i in for.
Developing a world of new fetishes.

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autism

>still can't search for Fortunes of War in the lobby browser
>limited to 3 Bergenhofen chests per week
>crafting a red doesn't give you the skin

Why do this shit?

Sadly yes, but still good game.
Only fate will tell how it will turn out in the future.

>no versus mode
>better

kys urself my man

SOUTHLANDERS

>unbalanced garbage that is versus
>characters and weapons that are actually different from each other
tough choice there

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I can't wait to kill beastmen fucking shits. Also this event is kinda cool and all but damn I hope they re-do the summer solstice one or whatever, the keep looked really nice then.

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Fuck off pvp faggot.

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What's the better staff on sienna?
I haven't played in a while but I heard shit was nerfed to oblivion

I generally go with fireball for horde clearing and using melee on CW and bosses if possible. I don't really like the other staffs.

fireball is best overall
bolt is decent on pyro and BW but shit on unchained
beam is okay, but no synergy on BW
flamestorm is fine on legend+ but plain dumb to use below that
conflag is extremely mediocre and completely inferior to fireball

Alright will try fireball
And how the fuck do I play unchained?
When I get temp health my overcharge goes up on what is this fucking bullshit?

Pyromancer got a well deserved nerf to the Wigglemancer build which required Boltstaff and single digit IQ to play since it killed everything at a distant range and let you replenish health without effort.
This shit was abused for months and faggots that played her were helpless in melee and sack of shit dragging everyone down if they made a dumb mistake.

ROTBLOODS

If you get hit a part of the damage taken is instead taken as overcharged. You are not slowed down by overcharge, but instead it makes you stronger. You still explode when it maxes out and kills you though (unless you cancel if with your special) so you have to be careful not to get hit when at high overcharge or it might kill you.

>When I get temp health my overcharge goes up on what is this fucking bullshit?
wut, only things that should increase heat is using your staff and taking damage

>Wigglemancer
>Boltstaff

Good for the first 600 hours or so, bit boring after that.
I wouldn't have played to 800 hours if I didn't have friends.

>can't play as the Beastmen
I know, completely not in tune with the game but dammit.

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kruger is by far the best character his default class is retarded good

More like L4D2 but plays like shit and managed to be even more one dimensional than L4D

Ah shit now I fucked up.
But you know which Staff I meant.

>no vs mode

Nah

best VA
>MY SLAVES
>MY SPOILS OF WAR
>LOARD GHUMAGAK
>YOU WILL PAY FOR THEM ALL
>COME I NEED NO AID AGAINST SOUF F.C FANS

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More like deeper L4D which doesn't require you to sit on one spot and shoot at the incoming enemies with braindead melee combat and actually takes skill at the highest difficulties depending on your loadout.

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dlc when?

This summer

Fireball is versatile and good dmg, but has a fuckhuge hitbox and hits friends a lot. Conflag is AOE and stagger city, very good for BW and Unchained imo. Flamestorm is Vietnam-fun, effective but a bit boring, shines on BW. Beam is versatile and good, works great for Unchained. Bolt is just bad, it can be decent on BW and 2 shot HS CWs.

>More like deeper L4D which doesn't require you to sit on one spot and shoot at the incoming enemies
That is V though, when you hit 100 hours youre only going to be using a single loadout anyway and use the most braindead weapons while camping inside of a closet.
Also.
>What is the spitter, charger and gauntlet events
>V melee not braindead
Sidedodge spam+swift slaying+crit chance and you will be killing everything with light attacks without needing to think, sometimes you get stuck in map geometry and then youre dead because it takes 1 second to die from the track aiming teleporting horde enemies.

Best va is fucking Salt and you can't disagree
>The crime is your foul existence, the sentence is D E A T H
>REPENT x3
>In the name of S I G M A R

very repetetive gameplay

If you keep playing the same class with the same loadout yeah. So many people only stick to 1 playstyle and complain everything is the same. No shit, try something different than the cookiecutter build recommended on the forums.

>That is V though, when you hit 100 hours youre only going to be using a single loadout anyway and use the most braindead weapons while camping inside of a closet.
Sure but most of V are shitter line in the general. At least in the starting day which calmed a bit. But anyone who want to improve or seek challenge will always use different builds and pay no heed o meta or min maxing faggotry.
>Also.
>>What is the spitter, charger and gauntlet events
The same as in VT, but in L4D you simply shoot at them and they fall. In VT they are more risque because you don't always have ammo or the possibility to counter them depending on the weapons or builds requiring more teamplay and coordination.
>>V melee not braindead
Only if you're stuck on Recruit and Veteran and think that you've seen it all with 2 hours played. Common mistakes of noobs and after they reach Champion they suddenly need to learn new things like dodge and block.
>Sidedodge spam+swift slaying+crit chance and you will be killing everything with light attacks without needing to think, sometimes you get stuck in map geometry and then youre dead because it takes 1 second to die from the track aiming teleporting horde enemies.
They simply fucked up with the traits in this game, VT1 had better and more interesting combinations even if in the end most were the same.
But Im curious what the new difficulty will bring. Do mind that many still struggle with Champion and Legend all that shit like block and dodge is already muscle memory for vets.

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Beam is still the best staff as it is top tier at special removal, good at boss dps and great at hordeclear. Combine with Crowbill for the pesky CWs.

What in the fuck is up with this game's ping, dude
I get 60 everywhere else
Why do I have like a constant 250+ in this game

>buying a dead game

>thinks dodge+block is hard
I have over 500 hours on this game and soloplay maps because the default hardest difficulty was getting too braindead and repetitive.
V in general does seem more complex and different at first but the game gets extremely shallow.
Its just a rush to the point while trying to avoid enemies and cheesing it, L4D has realism where it makes the zombies almost invulnerable to bullets and custom maps that will make you die all the time ontop of VS that removes the repetitiveness of AI.
L4D is repetitive but not as repetitive as V

It's peer to peer, maybe there's nobody playing in your country.

Where do you see me saying that block and dodge is hard.
Im saying that newbies that come into Champ/Legend 80% don't know those mechanics struggle and then proceed to whine on different forums about that or seek help from experienced players.
On the whole rush thing I agree but that always depends on you. Such speedrunning solo shit is not my thing I prefer to play with real people.
L4D is much more boring and is more of a run and gun with the only fun thing like Helms Deep mods.
I would argue against the repetitiveness of VT, ofc you learn some spawn points during 400 hours but there will always be situations that fuck you over especially if you play with other people rather than to try and cheese the game.

>Im saying that newbies that come into Champ/Legend 80% don't know those mechanics struggle and then proceed to whine on different forums about that or seek help from experienced players.

Game has been out for well over a year now and there are still people who play on legend who can't figure out the basic fucking tenant of stick together. I play almost exclusively on legend but went to champ just to grind out the event challenges and holy shit it's like going back to recruit. People are so fucking stupid, if you don't have good anti-armor then don't aggro the patrol, shit like that.

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>what am i in for.

Speed running levels for randomised loot and getting shat on by other fellow speedrunners if you take too long. Enjoy

I TAKE YOU ALL ON, IN MY BUTT

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>I NEED NO AID AGAINST WEAKLING SOUTHLANDERS!
>5 seconds later calls his fagboys in to help him

since /vtg/ is death, I ask here
should I buy the dlc now, or wait until summer sale?

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>who can't figure out the basic fucking tenant of stick together
Lmao at being a cuck who needs teammates around him to hide behind. Git gud basedboy

>removed Gatling Kruber 2.0
I'm mad.

Keep being mad shitter kun.

Exactly.
There are still way too many people who cant play and don't know mechanics after 100 hours.

Buy now.
I doubt it will get lower than that.