is muv luv worth playing?
Is muv luv worth playing?
Juan Foster
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John Turner
The main two games are.
Sideworks are of varying and dubious quality.
Alexander Harris
so muv-luv and alternative???
Robert Morales
This.
Extra, Unlimited, Alternative in that order.
Altered Fable afterwards if you want healing.
Jaxson Hernandez
God I love Meiya
Logan Fisher
thanks, downloading now
Aaron Rivera
Define "playing"
Thomas White
Based on the OP pick you already know it has giant robots and skintight bodysuits.
But you should duck out of this thread anyway. The less you know going in the better.
Aiden Hughes
Playing Extra wasn't worth it to be desu, I wish I started with Unlimited
The foreshadowing and character development wasn't worth it
Brody Smith
i have only seen the prequel, it was great for mechs and boobies.
Cameron White
Jeremiah Miller
chomp
Isaac Parker
Any reason to play Extra? It's so fucking boring and just overall awful, I just wanna skip it.
William Johnson
Just play one route and ctrl the other
Grayson Cooper
if your iq is too low to understand extra then you should just quit now
Josiah Lee
That's called patience nigga
Brayden Perez
>tropey moe shit romance story about childhood friend versus sexy girl
>"""funny""" writing
>generic school setting
Please tell me again how deep, intelectual and enlightening it is, user.
Ian Stewart
>posting a stasi whore
Get out.
Isaac Baker
>wojakposter is retarded.
Yep, it checks out.
Jack Myers
>anime poster is retarded and has bad taste in VNs.
Yep, it checks out.
Jason Edwards
It was my first time dealing with media aimed entirely at disgusting otaku, so I was pretty unprepared. Apparently it was apparently the 'best visual novel ever written' and I got the most shallow and insultingly time-consuming piece of media I've ever sat through. It's like if Evangelion was written by an autistic 14-year-old. They wanted the story to be edgy so they kill everyone off, but they also needed to appeal to waifufags, so they end with the JOKE ending from Evangelion... just to make the virgin otaku audience feel good.
Also, why the fuck did they spend 2 games talking about how robo-Sumika would be the key to dealing with the BETA, but then she DOESN'T EVEN FUCKING DO ANYTHING. At the very end of Alternative, the BETA brain says that they only respect the will of silicon based life forms. ROBO-SUMIKA IS THE FIRST SILICON BASED LIFE FORM. The whole plot hinged around her being created in the first place, yet, at the very end, she doesn't even fucking do anything. By the BETA's own logic, she should have had hierarchical authority... yet they never do anything with that. Robo-Sumika doesn't even matter. It screams unfinished to me, like the whole story was leading up to Robo-Sumika being able to command the BETA, but nothing like that happens.
Brandon Flores
based
Nolan Miller
>Apparently it was apparently
ok
Zachary Powell
Bitch I'm surprised I only had one grammar error in that rant. Anyway, what the fuck was the deal with Robo-Sumika. I'm still looking for answers.
Tyler Rodriguez
>vn
>not always anime
>granblue fantasy is anime posting now
You're a retard.
Daniel Price
post the chomp
Blake Cruz
cringe
Christopher Roberts
Read other VNs. Muv Luv is overrated by the english VN community.
Kayden Anderson
>granblue fantasy isn't anime posting
you're right, it's gachage posting which is worse
kill yourself
Nathaniel Wood
i didn't read past the first one. also i never played the vn so i have no idea. i just fap to plugsuits
Jackson Sullivan
>uses a reddit variant of a meme
Jaxson Moore
do you have any recommendations? i have read S;G, S;G0, and DDLC so far. also quit half way into chaos head or whatever because it was shit
Blake Reed
>i just fap to plugsuits
Fortified suits are hot. I need more porn featuring them.
Adam Myers
fair enough
Xavier Hughes
how long until they're hip among 3d girls?
Christian Kelly
If you have a lot of time Umineko is well worth it. Tsukihime and Fate are solid too.
Luis Gonzalez
Oh yeah for some dumb fun Majikoi is good.
Evan Stewart
>Fate
if you're the same person saying muv luv is overrated while recommending fate/shit you are unironically the stupidest person on this website right now, congrats
Luke Bell
Anyone happen to have the gif/webm of Lise twirling her hair from the anime
Eli Rodriguez
3D fortified suits wouldn't be as good.
There's no way they could be tight enough to show off the navel and nipples like 2d ones.
Asher Reed
Fuck off retard. The original VN is still solid even if it has a multi billion gacha.
Andrew Phillips
Takes one to know one, faggot.
Kayden Carter
Gabriel Torres
that's depressing, don't say that. hopefully they'll find a way :(
Ryan Phillips
not him, but I thought the Fate Zero anime was way funnier than Muv Luv. The dude fucking rocket-launchered his GF out of the sky and they play it straight. Hardest I've ever laughed at an anime trying to be cool. Muv Luv is wastes way too much time to be anything but boring
James Adams
yes
alternative is real edge shit though
based ai poster
Henry Gonzalez
Playing I'm not so sure. Reading however, is.
Be sure to grab the Director's Cut patches.
Owen Ortiz
Dominic Watson
>The original VN is still solid
>the entire game is about internal struggles with a main character who has less of a personality than a showa era toku hero
nah
Aiden Wright
The original Fate VN is just as bad as Muv-Luv and for the exact same reasons.
Horrible pacing, unoriginal story, bland characters, and some of the worst attempts at writing action scenes in the whole of world literature.
VNs as a whole are godawful and a complete waste of time, stop reading them.
Mason Richardson
you're the based one, user
Asher Barnes
>weebs arguing over which fanfic tier fiction is better
Andrew Sanders
This desu
Isaac Torres
>unoriginal story
Can you explain how it's unoriginal? The premise is really unique.
Hudson Williams
OMG LOL BOOBS AND DRAFS
Hudson Kelly
What did he mean by this?
Matthew Wood
based
Muv luv, and also alternative, are horible and offensive trash.
Fate is also shit but its more boring then outright offensive
Dominic Cooper
Holy based
James Martinez
Your penis is outright offensive.
Carson Thomas
>Fate is also shit but its more boring then outright offensive
Outright lie. Nothing gets as boring as Muvluv Extra and Unlimited.
Carter Peterson
You mean Fate/SN.
Samuel Young
>The premise is really unique.
it's pretty much exactly the same as kamen rider ryuki which aired 2 years before fate was released
Jonathan Perez
>superpowered martial arts heroes fighting each other in a tournament
Do I really need to explain this to you?
>but they're historical figures
No they're not.
As for Muv-Luv, it's just Starship Troopers during the cold war, which might have been interesting if the author actually took the time to flesh out the setting. Instead he decided to write about women's lacrosse and how Japan is better than every other country in the world.
Ian Rodriguez
i remember how in alterrnative, the robotgirl whore (sumika?) had a retarded as anime bow thingy, like her human counterrpart, and they explained it like its nanomachines son. Mind you the game is filled with info and technodumps to invoke the image of being deep.
Also there is a scene where the tentacle raped robot relives and shows her tentacle rape to the protoganist, and they have imidialty sex after.
Its trash, how the fuck people giving it a high score is beyond me
Isaiah Thomas
fuck off i'm just here for the ecchi
Jace Cook
>superpowered martial arts heroes fighting each other in a tournament
You don't know what you're talking about. It's a battle royale with historical figure stands. Did you even read Fate?
>Kamen Rider
Please.
Aaron Ross
>it's just Starship Troopers during the cold war
are you actually retarded
Kevin Green
...
Jackson James
extra is boring
i kinda like unlimited, cause it good for a build up
alternative is just outright dumb, see what that guy said for example:
fate on the other hand is just outright boring, like it understands is some chuunibyou shit, its just goes long for too long and there is too much breakfast scene and shit like that. You could easily shave 20 hours from fate and lose literarly nothing
Andrew Butler
suck my dick
Evan Walker
Hopefully you're a man of you're word.
Now post it or gtfo.
Kayden Myers
>It's a battle royale (read: tournament) with historical figure stands (read: martial arts heroes)
uh
Nicholas Jackson
>Takes one to know one, faggot.
Owen Sullivan
A battle royale isn't a tournament.
Jose Cox
half of the cast cant even punch straight
u trying to hard son
Luis Adams
PhotonFlowers when
Christopher Walker
Umineko is good until episode 4
Chiru is not to be read.
Sebastian Reyes
>battle royale fight to the death where people make a contract with a monster/servant to aid their fight and the winner gets a wish
>mc gets swept into it by accident and somehow ends up with the most powerful aid
>doesn't get how everyone is trying to kill him and thinks everyone is good
>teams up with another guy who hates him at first and constantly tells him to fuck off
yep, the premise is a ripoff of kamen rider ryuki
Liam Cruz
t. goat
Read Chiru and ignore brainlets.
Parker Reed
i would still recommend umineko over muvluv anyday of my life.
Like muv luv and stuff like that are for people that are weeb level 6 or something
Thomas Carter
how can that be true when ep 5 is the best episode?
Colton Watson
>how Japan is better than every other country in the world.
He says while a major arc of Alternative is a rebellion that everyone hate and paint Japan as retarded for doing it in the first place.
Get the fuck out with your false sense of intellectual entitlement.
Owen Brown
No one cares about Kamen Rider. There I said it.
David Ramirez
>The exact episode where everything turn to shit
>best
????
Not really, muvluv is something that pay off later. Extra and Unlimited are fairly bad but there's enough charm in the characters to make you stick around. Alternative is where soul and quality meet into something great.
Levi Williams
>relives and shows her tentacle rape to the protoganist, and they have imidialty sex after
Sure it doesn't make sense from a 'good story' or 'actual emotions' perspective, but consider...
Muv Luv was written for disgusting otakus who would have been turned on by the tentacle rape, so it makes sense that the characters would fuck immediately afterwards. They knew their target market, and it wasn't people who cared about good writing. It was about making peepee hard.
Connor Jackson
Brainlets retard.
Gavin Morris
>that pic
>that question
Negro didn't I already tell you to play this game when you asked in a VN thread yesterday? The answer is still yes, it is a long ass series, but you will love it in the later half.
Fair warning though, you're gonna love a girl named akane in extra She has no route, worst part of the series.
Camden King
she has her own game user
Isaiah Cooper
>saw a spoiler in a thread
>knew it happened
>thought I knew who the victim was
>didn't get the timing right
>didn't get the victim right
I knew about chomp and chomp still surprised the hell out of me.
There's no english translation and it's set in the inferior Extra universe. Herogane deserves the best girl.
Christian Smith
>something great
oh no no no no
based
Parker Brooks
Herogane subverted the harem genre by getting nobody.
Oh yes yes yes yes
Jacob Morgan
>chobits style outward facing eyelids
>Mech and mechsuit
>name is "Liz Hohenstein"
I can already tell this is some highly autistic shit
John Brooks
Death mark is a short and sweet puzzle mystery game in the VN style. Within that same vein there's 999 and VLR.
Blake Bell
Why are posting the mc little sister? that sleep with multiple guys and was an spy ready to backstab you
Jason Rogers
It was bullshit how literally everyone died by the end like come on, cut the guy a break he's been through so much shit.
Michael Evans
please explain how the scene or logic that this user described is some immanuel kant masterpiece shit user, we all want to laugh more at you and your weeb bretheren
>HUR DUR TOTALLY WORTH IT TO SIT THROUGH 2 SHIT VNS TO GET A MEDICORE RESULUTION WITH A RETCON ENDING
also explain to me why the endboss beta raped the other heroine (the violoet haired one) at the very end btw. maybe u need to make your own thread because how deep in complex it was
Henry Allen
Hey, Kasumi was a 10/10 option.
Alexander Long
nobody died user, did you not play to the end?
Dominic Long
Just grab the backer version off Sukebei.
Jayden Russell
Fuck man, I'm an ESL too so try to write something readable.
The scene with Sumika tentacle nonsense was her attempt at grossing out Takeru because she felt guilty about making him suffer by bringing him over to Alternative. She was trying to push him away and into the arms of someone else alongside making him understand the shit she went through and give some understanding about the BETA lack of humanity. It's still a bad scene though.
>also explain to me why the endboss beta raped the other heroine
It wasn't rape. He was ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL by injecting toxins/tendrils into her body and slowly taking it over.
Leo Nguyen
it's a porn game, theres no need to give it that kind of analysis. most of the things that happen are either for arousal or shock.
Nathaniel Johnson
Tsukihime
Henry Williams
Spotted the brainlet.
Adrian Cox
>it's a porn game
>there's 2 porn scenes in the entire game
>the all ages version came out only a couple months after and removed them
>every single release of the game since then has also been all ages
retard
James Ramirez
>it wasn't rape, he was just forcibly penetrating her mouth, vagina, and nipples
Don't ever become a lawyer.
Brandon Anderson
Cursed image
Colton Mitchell
there's a backer version? damn
but i want to buy it on steam anyway, i pirated the trilogy and i feel guilty, shit is good
Brayden Cook
Pump and dump Isumi
Caleb Miller
Except it wasn't. The cg has the tendrils enter her body and bulge against the suit, it' going EVERYWHERE
Matthew Fisher
Jacob Allen
You need to know the main heroine, who isn't in Unlimited, only Extra and Alternative.
Alexander Thompson
Extra is something that's touched again in Alternative. Just do Sumika and Meiya routes
Logan Hall
>wasnt rape
>watching this scene and saying that wasnt rape
youtu.be
just kys bro
i rather be a super ESL that being degenerate as you. Lay off the weeb shit and look out of the window to realize reallife or something before you go on a raping/murder spree
Jaxon Mitchell
Her and kashiwagi deaths made me more sad than the whole original squad, and i really like them.
Isaac Nelson
tsukihime >>>>> fate
Ryan Myers
STELLA > Meiya > Chizuru > Sumika > Ayamine > Mikoto > Tama
Sebastian Rogers
Breed the Swede!
Michael Evans
I want to breed Krauts
Robert Wilson
the shittiest VN has better writing than ALL vidya
Benjamin Cruz
Stellamind
Grayson Reed
woah is this the original? I played the vita ports and didn't see any of this. is there a collection of the h-scenes from muvluv?
Jonathan Perez
That isn't even close to being true, and you know it.
Joshua Thomas
Watch the scene yourself you fucking retard. It's not rape, Meiya is literally dying in horrible pain when the tendrils keep spreading all over her body.
Ryder Young
they were talking about meiya idiot
Chase Gutierrez
Tyler Taylor
Remember that this eroge almost backrupt the company because they forgot to censor some hscenes
Isaac Bell
Sumika =/= Meiya.
When the fuck was it said she didn't suffer tentacle rape?
Xavier Ortiz
No, not really
As a love story it is mediocre at best
As a sci-fi, same answer
Everyone defends Alternative, but a large portion of it was just re-doing the 2nd one, and a LOT of it was boring scenes of describing military strategies you probably won't understand/care about anyway
And then when they supposedly act those strategies out, the static models jumping around screen look more boring than an elementary school puppet show
Dylan Gomez
Landon Ramirez
never played it myself
isn't the game just suffering? think I'll stick to my moege
Gabriel Harris
correct
Camden Roberts
thats like saying a loli doesnt qualify as underage because she is in truth 100 years old, you know that right?
Everything in that scene was rapey, she fucking even says dont let the thing have its way with me fucking TOPKEK how much of shit taste of weeb u need to be to defend rape scenes in your eroge and not just admitt it?
Luis Green
Landon Torres
read VNOTY 2018, Fureraba
Jeremiah Cruz
No because Sachi never.
Jason Hill
>it has tentacle rape insertion like in every tentacle rape in every eroge "HUR DUR JUST TOXINS"
>"Maya is DYING"
She just screams while she is turning into mindbreaked fuckdoll, 0 indication that that thing even wants to kill her. So what you saying incestbreed, the higher kind of intelligence dont know how human dies when they get stabbed through the hearth with tentacles? "hur dur she is dying"
you mongos even said yourself it was "assuming control"
Charles Hall
>thats like saying a loli doesnt qualify as underage because she is in truth 100 years old, you know that right?
Stop moving the goalpost.
>Everything in that scene was rapey, she fucking even says dont let the thing have its way with me fucking TOPKEK
It's -literally- taking control of Meiya body os, of course, this is a goddam violation. What she's going through is worse than a fucking rape so of course, she'll protest: do you not understand the word assimilation? The meaning of taking control?
>how much of shit taste of weeb u need to be to defend rape scenes in your eroge and not just admitt it?
Have sex.
Landon Campbell
>that scene
Literally the only reason I'll buy photon flowers
Sure they're alive in the extra world, but they're all pushing up daisies in the beta world
She was certainly 10, though I will admit I thought the chapter with her sleeping in shirogane's room was adorable. I wish she would've stayed there through the rest of the game.
>game doesn't give you the option to shoot yuuko after all the shit she did, it would've been so satisfying.
I don't recall this CG, is this in one of the side stories?
I didn't feel much toward kashiwagi, but Isumi did hit me. Didn't get enough time with her.
Nathaniel Ross
>its not rape, its assimilation
>its not a 8 year child, its a 100 year old dragon
>"Stop moving goalpoast!!!!!"
tell me the rest of your user just fapping to the h scenes in peace without going through mental degradition to justify your eroge like this user
Jacob Long
>they died in the other universe which we even dont know it exists after that
i dont buy into fanfic meta endings to make their favorite game better user, sry. Didnt worked for chrono cross, gonna not work on your eroge
Daniel Evans
>She just screams while she is turning into mindbreaked fuckdoll, 0 indication that that thing even wants to kill her.
Really? No indication at all? Even when the Superior push her TSF into the protagonist giant robot and activate the self-destruct system?
The scene isn't static, there's a progression of events that's happening in this finale, something that is clearly far too difficult for a brainlet to understand.
Neutralize heroine robot > Try to take over her body > push it onto the protagonist mech when she resist > Activate self-destruct sequence of her machine to remove the threat.
You weren't supposed to drop out of highschool, user.
Jaxon Evans
Yea Forums has such abysmal taste in everything. Games, anime, VN. I don't know if you're all contrarians or just low IQ.
I loved FSN so by how Yea Forums hates it I will assume muv luv is also great and will be getting it.
Levi Wood
>which we even dont know it exists after that
Just because Takeru poofed out of existence from Alternativeverse doesn't mean it stopped existing. Sumika was the thing holding him in that world, she wasn't responsible for the world itself.
Ayden Smith
>contrarians or just low IQ.
bit of column a, bit of column b
Jacob Martinez
OH CAPTAIN MY CAPTAIN
Christian Sanchez
on the flipside, much of this thread is people defending muv luv so i will assume it is absolute garbage
Aaron James
>fanfic meta ending
What are you smoking? The creators designed two separate universes that they connected through sumika hell, herogane cries when he sees a new girl in the ending. Some fragments of his memory certainly carried over, same with Kasumi.
Camden Evans
>I don't recall this CG, is this in one of the side stories?
It's from Confessions, Isumi's story in Photonflowers. It starts and ends with her Alternative death scene and plays the same music from when Meiya dies
Ryder Roberts
TDA 4 when?
Proper translations for 2 and 3 never
Jack Diaz
>Some fragments of his memory certainly carried over, same with Kasumi.
Kasumi remembers everything in Before the Shimmering Time Ends, which is kinda fucked up when you think about it. On Christmas they have a blue neon strip around the tree that resembles Sumika's brain case and when it's turned on it visibly gives her PTSD.
Zachary Smith
theses spin offs are shit, aren't they?
Angel Edwards
it's the one good spinoff
Juan Thomas
just wait for baldr sky instead. it combines the mc's happy school life and his gritty modern day cyberpunk war life into one game very smoothly and has actual gameplay.
Luke Anderson
TSF Forefront when? haha just fucking kill me
Connor Brown
Depends, I personally love TDA and wanted to like Total Eclipse and Schwarzesmarken. Honestly I preferred the more realistic side of things and thought that Alternative went off the rails at the end Trigger-style. At least until they got into the tunnels. Not enough things in fiction show what it's like to be fighting an unwinnable war. I loved the original Resistance: Fall of Man for this too before the sequels turned it into another power fantasy romp.
>still have the site bookmarked after like 10 years
It's gonna be on the PS3 right? :^)
Nolan Bell
Adam Rogers
Schwarzesmarken was my favorite muvluv vn
Nathan Robinson
can you timestamp it, I won't waste time trying to find it
Dylan Anderson
Cute dog user, makes me want to kick her
Nicholas Ward
already is, goes a while tho, cause its so complex!
Nolan Nguyen
my wife
Gabriel Sanchez
I love this woman
Levi Ortiz
unironicly designed and inserted into the vn for top notch breeding material and doujins
Almost Kagami level of lewdness perfection
Bentley Green
read umineko
Julian Moore
Best girl.
Logan Russell
Do the Muvluv VNs have nudity/sex? Only thing VNs are good for imo.
Joshua Rivera
If you want to literally read through 60 hours of VN to get to a sex scene, then sure.
Adam Sullivan
nah