He calls himself a Persona fan

>he calls himself a Persona fan
>he's never played the best game in the series

Explain yourself

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Why do people consider 2 the best? I couldn't get into it, hell I enjoyed 1 more and that game was objectively ass

but I finished Persona 1, both Revelations and the PSP version

There's a big difference between Persona Fans and Nu-Persona fans

The latter being waifufags that started with 3 and treat it as there's nothing before it.

Also fuck Hashino

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But I've played Persona 5. Why is Yusuke red though?

Persona 2 was a fun duology to play, though in my opinion EP dropped the ball. I still prefer the nu-Persona games over 1+2 if I'm being honest.

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Jokes on you, I tried to play it, gave up at like the second dungeon because of how boring and tedious it was then watched an LP and I pretend I played it.

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The gameplay is rather mediocre, or at least it was for the PS1 versions. The story is where it excels.
Gameplay-wise, the series only improved with each game.

>p1/2fags can't even make bait threads since no one gives a shit about them
here's a pity (you) OP

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I pretended I beat EP because I thought that the PS1 was absolute balls after the PSP port of IS. I got like 10 hours in and just wasn't having fun

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P2 IS has a fun story but the only way I found myself able to cope with the shitty gameplay is to set no battle animations, put the game on easy, and use a code to get max items that lower encounter rate just so I could play it like a glorified VN. Even then it was still a fucking slog and as reference I really enjoyed even the much older SMT games.

you cheated yourself out of the experience

I kinda wanna play it, but also fuck Atlus.
I can't even properly buy the second game here in Europe, and even if I could, I would need to settle for the inferior port.

Two times P2 was brought to the west and they dropped the ball on both. No wonder nobody cares about this blunder.

Maya looks like an alright waifu tho.

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so, just like any other persona fag?

I don't understand why people do this, they watch a e-celeb play Persona and pretend they played it.

Well then your opinion i just shit, I don't see how you could play MT1+2 and then say Persona 2 is a slog. Or heck, even SMT1

even the first SMT, which is still kind of boring as a dungeon crawler, has way better combat gameplay than persona 1 and 2.

>Inferior port
But the PSP version of IS is the better one. And they're working on translating EP in a fan translation

>first SMT
You mean mazio (or nerve bullet): the game?

But I have played the best Persona game.

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>no waifus
What a shit opinion

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3>1>4>5>>>>>>>>>>EP>IS

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>no waifus

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>And they're working on translating EP in a fan translation
Nigga that shit's been dead for years

Don't act like you can't cheese through P1 and P2 either. They're both old, clunky and overall not great but at least SMT1 isn't straight up boring combat wise.

1>5>2>4>>>>>>>>>

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>4
>above anything
this is the real shit taste scourge of persona fans

By second, I means second part of the duology, so ES. Third game in general. PS1 is the inferior one.

Thanks for the heads up. I'd probably reconsider when the translation is out, then.

Ok, that's a bummer

3/4/5 are pretty much the same game, putting them too far apart would be disingenuous

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Literally hasn't. Also they have a discord for the project. To be fair though I have no idea when and if it will be finished
The PS1 version of EP sucks, it made me just watch a Let's Play

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I'm just waiting for the fan translation of EP PSP.

A-Any day now...

I tried playing IS on the PSP and I just couldn't get into it, the core dungeon crawling and battle system is just too boring. Maybe I'll give it another shot some time since I was a teenager when I last played it.

>3>1
based

Yeah I cheated myself out of a shit experience.

Because those games have better gameplay

No, they don't

The story is fantastic

Yes, they do

They might be autobattle simulators but there is at least some party management going on unlike P2, also P2's dungeons are complete shit

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IS and EP are better on psp

P2 is braindead easy even on the hardest difficulty. It's just slow with far too many encounters and very little strategy. It's shit.

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I'm a nusona fan. Only played 5. Which one should I start out with? Most people tell me 1 and 2 aren't worth it for some reason

Recent update in the discord is that they're making progress on EP, Fate/CCC and Sakura wars but Sakura wars is the main focus currently

...hey Mr.Bunbun is gonna laugh at you if you cry.

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Since you already played 5 you may as well go backwards order.

>tfw no Maya gf

No they don't.
You can literally beat SMT1 without demons.
Maybe the PSP version, the PS1 version has one of the most difficult final bosses in all of MT.

The best starting point is actually P3FES since the dates combat of 1/2 will through off any new players. Then you play P4G, any spinoffs that interest you then P5 and then go for the old ones.
P5 is actually better after you played 1/2 since it's a giant reference to them

IS is easy since you don't need to fuse, EP you must fuse

In P2 you can swap everyone's Personas, user.

best story and characters in the series, by far,

>actually going through the headache that is that terrible card grind system

>He only played half of P2

Yeah no I was talking about the PS1 version. You're just a shitter.

>P2 has no party management
>Actually it does
>UHHHH yeah imagine actually doing that!
Ok
The PS1 version only has one difficulty setting, so you clearly have no idea what you're talking about

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I wish Persona 6 has a more depressing atmosphere than the past 3 games, something as hopeless as some of the SMT games. If they do it's going to be great hearing "the dark souls of Persona"

Persona 5 was almost there but I honestly think it would've been a lot better thematically and a perfect book end if Joker stayed in jail with a hint that he's going to be released soon.

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>people
you mean contrarians

I'm really surprised so many people here don't like its gameplay. I get that the battle style became more simplistic afterwards. But honestly, I enjoyed both equally. In P2 there's so much variety, whereas in the later games, you're just kinda killing everything with your MC (unless you're trying to conserve his SP)

5 is the best in everything but story and characters, just give me the other games with 5s style/gameplay and I'm good

I beat P2IS

I never saw what people were worshiping about.

None of the persona games are depressing.
1 is more creepy than depressing.

the ending of innocent sin and tatsuya's whole story arc in eternal punishment are pretty depressing. that's about it, though.

The thing I liked the less was the dialogue system desu

which one do I play, are Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment different games or what?

They're a duology.

Of course they're different games, they have different names. Nobody just refers to them different for kicks

Innocent Sin is the first game, Eternal Punishment is the sequel.

Same game but the version changes who you play with. If you want to play as a girl go play Eternal Punishment, if you want to play as a boy, go play innocent sin. It's implied EP comes after IS but nothing substantial.

Is remaking Persona 1 + 2 viable? Persona 2 had the best story in the entire series. I’d like to replay it but without the god awful gameplay. It’d be cool to see everything in those games modernized for the newfags

Finished it and it's terrible.

EP's only translation is the bad PS1 one, but I did already finish IS

This holy shit. Even the piece of shit that was Persona 1 was more fun and that game had a terrible story. Fuck these “muh story” fags. I’m not sitting through boring ass gameplay to get some “fantastic jrpg story” that’s actually just mediocre.

>Is remaking Persona 1 + 2 viable?
Not really. Really, the big issue is that remaking those games would take a SHITLOAD of time and effort. Even if they have the blueprints for the games ready they still need to make character models, locations, and all that jazz. Plus there's absolutely no guarantee that they'll sell well. They MIGHT, but it's not like the PSP version of P2 sold well outside of Japan.

Basically, yes, it would be awesome to see it all modernized. But I can't imagine that Atlus would ever work on that over P6, which will likely be their main focus after P5R.

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>Explain yourself
Shit graphics

They could do a few things
>Go Full VN
>P5 One more battle system with 3D models
>Press turn system with 3D models and make it kinda like DDS

So many nu-persona fags invading now.

You have no idea what P2 even is, do you?

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Only good thing about fights were the battle themes and some dialogue.

But user I already played P3FES

can I play one right after the other without the feeling I went through the same stuff before?

>bitchyase
>dykekino
Weak shit desu

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>implied
Try explicitly canon

Play EP first. The girl route is a lot more fun than playing as a boy. It's like P3Ps girl and boy difference if you played that.

They're different games, so sure. But both games do reference each other. They are a duology, after all.

I sometimes wonder. Is this threads one of those usual ironic Yea Forums bait thread or people genuinely think persona 1 and 2 are better games than what we have now

>bitchyase
Not very clever and doesn't even roll off the tongue

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>started with P3 and eventually played 4 and 5
>actively going to go back and play other Megaten games and loving them (finished DDS1&2, in the middle of Nocturne)
>will buy a Switch if SMT5 ever releases
>absolutely no interest in P1 and can't be assed to finish P2
What category am I in?

But I did even though I started with 5 a little under a year ago
5 > P2IS > 3 > 4 > 2EP > 1

>no Q
Missing out desu, great dungeon design

>I love those old Megaten games!
>But not P1 or P2
Uh, terrible opinion category I guess

Sane.

1 and 2 really stuck with the concepts of the Jungian themes the series uses.
More importantly, they doesn't use the garbage "MC-kun is super special and great at everything" trope that later Personas and modern anime seem to love. Character interactions are steadily built up and you can see why the cast becomes so tight-knit. Compare that to, let's say Persona 4. Yukiko and Kanji never show any reason to really care for each other, but we're expected to believe that they're best buds by the end of the game.

It has the best cast in the series.

>over P6, which will likely be their main focus after P5R.
Ahem

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>Character interactions are steadily built up and you can see why the cast becomes so tight-knit.
Your MC in Persona 1 doesn't even talk

Idiot category for not realizing P1 is just a devil summoner game

...You know that they have a studio just for Persona games, right? Why would the Persona studio work on SMT titles?

'sup ericuck

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>1 that high
>3 above 4
Wow this is some shit opinion

>I wish Persona 6 has a more depressing atmosphere than the past 3 games, something as hopeless as some of the SMT games. If they do it's going to be great hearing "the dark souls of Persona"
I strongly recommend the Devil Survivor games if you haven't played them, since that's essentially what they are but with SRPG gameplay.

Because I don't know shit and I figured if there's anything that "Atlus" in general would want to push after P5R, it's the announced mainline game

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Already played them. I really want at least one game with the atmosphere and "oh shit" factor it had in persona 6. Just to show the series isn't fucking around.

The real question is, how are they ranked soundtrack wise?

But user, Eternal Punishment is the better half and P1 is better than both,

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>story and characters
I mean that shit is secondary to gameplay. If the game isn't fun to play then I can't be arsed to power through it just for story and characters. Might as well just watch it on youtube. Just like The Answer in FES, it was boring as all fuck and a literal chore to play, I don't know one person who says to actually play it unless they are trolling.

Can't really compare them...
They're all different genres.

>Maybe the PSP version, the PS1 version has one of the most difficult final bosses in all of MT.
Innocent Sin, on PS1 as well, is one of the easiest games Atlus ever made and definitely the easiest Persona game. Great Father is challenging but not outrageously so, certainly nowhere near enough to make up for the rest of the game being a mockery of intelligence.
You'd have a more sensible point saying that at least EP fixed the difficulty. The gameplay was still far from great but it improved on that aspect a bit at least.

>2011 Maya on a CRT
Why?

EP definitely but I can't agree with IS. The new UI was clunkier and slower to navigate. EP PSP went back to the PS1 UI and touched it up, thankfully.

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>Innocent Sin, on PS1 as well, is one of the easiest games Atlus ever made and definitely the easiest Persona game.
That isn't true whatsoever and I don't know why you have to blatantly lie about something like Innocent Sin on PS1.

That's a bit tough since music is all up to personal taste. P4's definitely on the bottom for me since J-pop makes me want to die.

P3=P5>P2>P1>P4>>>P1P

Only bitter P3fags have this P4 complex. It's a fine game, get over it.

>3 above anything
The mark of a pleb.

You have to in Eternal Punishment since that game actually has engaging battles, but don't tell me, you never actually played it.

P4 and Persona 1 for PSP are bottom tier and that's not up for debate.

Good argument.
You're consciously aware that it's the truth because you had to specifically point to Great Father, the fucking final boss, as a testament to IS' difficulty, since it's literally the only segment of the entire game which is challenging, which also speaks volume to the horrendous lack of attention Atlus paid to balance.
Stop trying to have everything. EP specifically went out of its way to fix the difficulty. This is commendable and one of the nicer things you can say about the duology. To claim P2 didn't have a (lack of) difficulty problem to begin with and by extension that somehow both games have even remotely similar difficulty scale is being a clown.

Stop scapegoating, plenty of people dislike P4 and for good reason, the battles are bland and the dungeons are horrendous, the only good thing about it is the characters and even those are annoying and shallow.

>Innocent Sin, on PS1 as well, is one of the easiest games Atlus ever made
Fucking what? Have you played P1? Besides the Snow Queen shit it was stupidly easy. Beat the game no problem and only fused 2 personas, one which turned out to be worse than the starters

Those dirty bastards. Finish what you started instead of taking on a million new projects for fuck sake.

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Because i'm not a boomer.

>battles are bland and the dungeons are horrendous
That's not just a P4 problem though

It has Hitler

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I'm sorry, who?

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Your argument was "no it's not" just so we're clear.
>since it's literally the only segment of the entire game which is challenging
So it IS challenging and you're completely admitting that. Cool. Thanks.

I've been trying to start P4G for almost a year but I just can't get into it. Decided to play IS and it was a worthwhile slog -- loved everything besides the combat. P1 is outrageously cool a few hours into it but I'll see how it goes. Might just end up playing P4 vanilla eventually for the classic presentation and Golden on replays.

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>If you don't agree with me then you're being a troll!
Not even that guy but stop acting like such a faggot user, you're disgusting

i like how persona 1's final boss wasn't some deity pulling things from behind the scenes but a fragment of some girl's mind gone berserk. and then they ruined it later by saying lol persona 1 was a test run by nyarlathotep.

P4's main issues stem from its writing. The way the group friendship is built is so abrupt that it's jarring. You never see Yukiko and Naoto hang out, yet I'm expected to believe they're practically besties.
And because the game sticks to the calendar format without trying to give a lore reason, you end up with a lot of empty time with no real meaning behind it. What's that, some lunatic is rampaging through town killing innocent people? Better fucking work your ass off learning how to play the trumpet so we can play at Junes.

Worst offender is probably Nanako's revival. Illness was never once mentioned to be a side effect of the fog, and even if you rescue the target right at day 1, she will still fall deathly ill. This could've been the shining moment for the IT, where they fully band together after collectively overcoming their loss and put aside all the highschool schlock, but instead we get a fucking bullshit revival through friendship, which becomes even more absurd because she never really had that tight of a bond with Teddie in the first place.

>persona 1's final boss wasn't some deity pulling things from behind the scenes
The SQQ route literally had that though

You say that, but I like how P2 had it's God boss built up to since the first game. Made actually fighting the bastard feel more impactful than anything in P3 onwards. Pandora, Ideal Maki, Mai and Aki were all great uses of the Jungian Shadow too.

The narrator telling MC that he has one year in P3 is Philemon, right?

>ywn fuck Jun

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I like how the MC used to have their own arcana, rather than this fool wild card bullshit
Along with everyone being able to have different personas, because they're literally the different masks/selves each person has, and expresses based on their current circumstance

>And because the game sticks to the calendar format without trying to give a lore reason
but they did. you have specific deadlines to meet on the dungeons, and bad shit happens if you miss them.
>you end up with a lot of empty time with no real meaning behind it.
Yea Forums is the only place i've ever seen people complain about this. most people like finishing the dungeons asap and using the extra time to grind their social stats, work on social links, etc.
also, let's not pretend like p3 doesn't have long stretches with absolutely nothing interesting going on.

true. but i like the other story more.
that said, i don't hate nyarly. he is the best bad guy in persona by far. i just see the way the pandora situation was set up was really cool. nyarly himself is unique too since despite being a cosmic entity, he hold a very personal connection to the cast.

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the writers say philemon was the butterfly in the intro so maybe

Based Atlus

i played it and like it more than others

IS is best persona game, EP is not so good but still good and completes this game

P4G is good and interesting too

no, psp is worse

According to Hashino, Philemon is present in P3-5, he's just not in his physical form like in 1+2. I've always assumed that Philemon is the various butterflies you see

Isn't Lavenza the butterfly in P5?

I like the grid system in p1, though at little samey after you get some good personas. P2 was unplayable. Late Game just became me brute forcing dungeons cause i only played for the story at that point.

it's philly playing a voicemail from lavenza.

I just haven't gotten the chance honestly, I have to be in a certain mindset to play through a JRPG since that's usually going to be a month's investment or possibly more and I've just been more interested in other ones
I won't sit here and deny claims of me being a waifufag though, I mean I can't even decide which girl I want to date most in Persona 5, which wasn't an issue in 3 and 4

But I did play IS, decent for what it is but it's probably one of the most overrated games I've ever played

>demoted from boss to messenger
ATLUUUUS

is eternal punishment translated yet

yes

on the PS single

It's implied it's not. When Igor and Lavenza leave near the end of P5, leaving Joker in the Velvet Room alone for a moment, the butterfly drifts by. I think it implies that the butterfly is separate from Lavenza, though admittedly this is never spelled out.

Best game in the series releases in the west in two and a half weeks.

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N O D U B

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EUfag here, is there ANYWAY I can get my hands on Eternal Punishment?

>One of the best things about the original PQ were all those little lines of dialogue and interactions during the fights
>no fucking dub for PQ2
For what purpose?

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>try 2 numerous times
>always quit an hour or so in because the gameplay is pretty trash and the story is just ok so far

Is it really worth it? Does it get better?

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>I need dubs to play video games
Sad.

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and?

the JP voices of Persona 5 are great.
No idea about 3 or 4 (but 4 has Rie Kyugima and HanaKana so I have low hopes for the Japanese voices for 4)

>One hour into a JRPG
You have absolutely no patience, I recommend playing something else

I only finally decided to try out the series three years ago and played in release order. I like Persona 1 a lot more than most people it seems, and I really liked Innocent Sin. Eternal Punishment less so, but I wouldn't call it bad. 3 and up are eh. Just can't get into the style, though I've still played them all to completion. But I gotta say, Persona 2's encounter rate is very frustrating and its dungeons are pretty bad. Bad dungeons seem to be a series staple.

The 3/4 parts of the game are the very definition of filler since none of the things that happen carry on to the final act of the game which is just rushed mess

Ching ching ching ching eeeeeeeeehhh??????
Aiiieeeeeeeeee Chong Chong li long masakaaaaaa!!!! Ehhhhhhh???? Hentaiiii!!!!! Eeeeeeeeeee!!!

>Why are they speaking Japanese in my Japanese Role-Playing-Game?!
Sad.

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They talk as much as the other mcs do. Tf you talking about?

Do you also have an issue with English text in your Japanese games?

what are the persona Q games like

They literally don't, user. The only time the P1 MC speaks is when his "shadow" in the other world talks. Fuck, Tatsuya talks a whole lot, so you're very very wrong.

>what are the persona Q games like

Etrain Odyssey

user Q2 is still going to have English text, what are you even talking about?
>If I don't have English people narrating the words I can read this sucks!
You're sad.

Etrian Odyssey with Persona characters

but no lolis

Shit gameplay friendo. Nobody likes endlessly repetitve first person straight corridors.

>implying Demons should be speaking English
The native tongue for everything in the universe is English and somethings Spanish

>Shit gameplay friendo. Nobody likes endlessly repetitve first person straight corridors.

confirmed for not playing it.
Only P1 was old school first person dungeon crawling

>P2
>first person
Also the first person camera on Persona PSP was unironically great.

>first person
The absolute state of P5babbies
Even P4fags are better than you

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>Muh Story
Read a fucking book P2fags.
Don't make me suffer through dogshit like the bomb shelter.

Do you think there will be a working ROM to use on an emulator soon after release or am I better off just buying it

Boy do you look stupid.

Is it really worth playing the dub of PQ1 at least once so I can understand the battle dialogue?

Citra works with the original Q just fine

This is literally a good thing. If you want to listen to Japanese high schoolers speaking english with a lackluster performance you must have terminal brain cancer.

No dude you don't get it, the story is great because of Hitler and *uh* Yung and people on Yea Forums say it's good so it must be.

Okay but Citra wont work if I don't have a rom to use it with, the question is if the rom will be uploaded soon after it releases

Where was it said they were best friends rather than friends who worked together like the 3 cast? I think you're creating problems in your head to complain about 4 again.

Recommend me a fucking book faggot

JP PQ2 was uploaded straight away. I'd assume it'd be the same case here. Also, cia -> 3ds file converters exist.

the first couple floors at the start of Q1 and 2 are rough until you get sub personas that give you enough temporary HP/SP to get through fights without burning all your resources so you don't have to return and save every couple of minutes.
Drawing the map is fun. And I enjoy the gameplay and character interactions so it's a fun time for me.
I hope Q2's battle dialogue will have subtitles at least cause I really want to see the character dialogue interactions, Q1's were fun to hear and it sucks that there won't be a dub for that reason.

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I'd actually love it if all demons (even in the Japanese version of the game) spoke Spanish
I'm that guy you were responding to and honestly though I gave you a little shit for it at first I'd also massively prefer a dub

Hmm let me check my crystal ball to see if someone's gonna leak it when it releases
Hmmmmm
Hmmmmm
Hmmmmmmmnn

Apply yourself, faggot

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Persona 1 and 2 are literally just Jojo fanfics turned into a JRPG.

Tbh the Persona series is one of the few franchisees I've seen where it started out unironically soulless (the entire advertising campaign for Persona 1 was literally "The Jojo of video games" in Japan) and ended up being something filled with meaning and actual creative originality.

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Atlas Shrugged
Oh shit there's a rom right now? Is the text in english?

>walk two steps
>random battle
>repeat
The encounter rate was just annoying.

Actual retard.

Bruh the power of friendship is one of the themes.

Well since you think P2's story is good, Clifford the Big Red Dog perhaps?

>Started off soulless despite it's excellent story and characters
>Every persona after 3 tries to be the exact same as 3 only worse and somehow 1 and 2 are the soulless ones
Ok

I've seen unlocalized jap games have english sub options before, faggot.

T. Never played them.

Persona 1 is literally just Jojo Part 3 in Japan instead of Egypt.

You can say it's better than Persona 2, 3, 4, 5 all you want but the entire story is a blatant fucking rip off of Stardust Crusaders and even the lead writer for game admits that.

I wish, I was using the google image translator on my phone, which it tries its best, but there are times where it does a funny thing if you don't take an image first

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>literally just Jojo fanfics turned into a JRPG
How are they similar apart from Personas kinda being like stands?

This doesn't actually contradict what I said despite what you think
Also:
youtu.be/QbXw-QSt72k?t=581

Remember when battle themes were badass without gay ass lyrics?

youtube.com/watch?v=x53T7qW2S6w

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Daily reminder you're not a real persona fan if you haven't played them all.

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>NOISE NOISE LOUD MINDLESS NOISE
Yeah great.

Too bad EP dropped the ball with its normal and boss battle themes.

Makes up for it with the Final Battle theme though, hands down the best one in the franchise.

>Doesn't matter how far apart we are. The bonds we made will remain strong. Everyone's heart is connected to the people they know and trust. It's these bonds that let us all search for our purpose in life. As long as it's a purpose you believe in, there will always be someone who can help you fulfill it. You, me, and everyone else, there are no barriers. Our hearts are one, right sensei?
I'm sorry if you need it to be directly spelled out to you, but it's pretty damn clear the game insists they're all supposed to be really close to each other. It's clearly not just what Teddie feels, because no one refutes him on his speech.

user I don't like the P2 battle theme much either but you're acting like a fag

I guess 4 is a rip off too then since it basically has the same story as 1 except there is only one person's mind you're inhabiting.

>they know and trust
>the bonds we made will remain strong
>WOOOOOOW THEY'RE LITERALLY BEST FRIENDS IN ALL ASPECTS
Junpei would take a bullet for Ken too.

>Yukiko and Kanji never show any reason to really care for each other, but we're expected to believe that they're best buds by the end of the game.
Uh, what? Yukiko and Kanji are childhood friends, Yukiko is even the first one who calls about Kanji. Why are the two not friends? Just because they don't interact as much as Chie/Yukiko or something? This sounds like you don't know how friends work.

user the entire ending of the game is pretty much emphasizing that bond of friendship.
And by the way, considering you devolved into greentexting suddenly I assume you know that the other user is correct.

Confirmed j pop fag. Yikes. This isn't even that loud. I cant imagine what you think of Nocturne tracks.

Well they used to be childhood friends before they stopped hanging out, most likely due to Kanji's father going into the hospital.

You're right it is emphasizing the bonds of friendship and trust the IT has formed with you and themselves

And if that makes you feel better you can believe that sure.

...So why do they have no reason to care about each other? It sounds like they have every reason to in fact.

>I couldn't get into it
Not to say I can't blame you since the gameplay isn't amazing but if you stick with it you'll soon find yourself playing it for the story and characters. EP is my favourite Persona game simply because Maya, Ulala, Katsuya and Baofu form a fucking excellent party.

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They do though?

But Eternal Punishment is better. Fighting those Nazi mechs was cool though, I admit.

I do believe in themes that the game is implicitly pushing, so yes I believe that.
And once again, seeing as you don't even begin to offer a different interpretation I'm once again sure you knew the other guy was right all along.

I'm confused if Persona 4 was exactly like JoJo part 4 why is JoJo4 near the top of everyone's rankings and Persona 4 right at the bottom????

If anything the p3 cast is more like family than friends.

cause Yea Forums hates p4

...Ok? Then I'm very confused what you're saying.

Repeating things like that is a good way to build confidence. Anyway the 3 cast have strong bonds and aren't best friends (Fuuka would never hang out with Akihiko for example) so I'm not sure what you're crying about?

LP's let you experience everything but the gameplay and the gameplay is barely apart of the discussion.

makes sense since every persona user in 3 has lost one or multiple family members

>rates gameplay over story
this is objectively wrong

>Repeating things like that is a good way to build confidence.
Yes when you repeat the truth (and the guy you're talking with can't even begin to muster a counter argument) it feels pretty nice.
>Anyway the 3 cast have strong bonds and aren't best friends (Fuuka would never hang out with Akihiko for example) so I'm not sure what you're crying about?
I'm responding to this post you made: since you seem to be very forgetful. Also you agreed they were all friends right here:

Fuuka hasn't. And I don't think Junpei has either.

Well uh yeah it's noise and yeah it's loud, it's fucking music lmao. You sound like an old granny.

This theme blows anything nusona out of the water.

youtu.be/9TFrprd130U

"B-b-but no Lotus Jui-"

BAM. Rent. Free.

youtu.be/eAarVmqJwNw

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Lotus Juice part was the only good part in the intro.

Ah man I can't do this passive aggressive sniping sissy man arguing like you can so I'll just be direct. They are friends in the same way the 3 cast are friends, they have strong bonds and care about each other but wouldn't necessarily be best friends forever in every aspect of their life. They'd be supportive and listen if anyone in the group needed it but they're not going to do everything together.

I love how absolutely insane she is. If you want to give your character a quirk as a personality you should make it a good one.

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Woah ominous chanting...so good...so kino...

>Ah man I can't do this passive aggressive sniping sissy man arguing like you can so I'll just be direct.
You're being a passive aggressive little pussy here so I disagree
>They are friends in the same way the 3 cast are friends, they have strong bonds and care about each other but wouldn't necessarily be best friends forever in every aspect of their life. They'd be supportive and listen if anyone in the group needed it but they're not going to do everything together.
But user you were literally just arguing that the P4 cast wasn't friends while the P3 cast was. Then you completely shifted the goalposts. I made a note of this in my previous post.
Yeah you were right earlier, you're completely shit at this.

>P-pussy
Ah so tough over the internet.
I didn't shift anything, you're just shit at reading and not being a passive aggressive woman and understanding games meant for teenagers and just life in general. I said they were the same as 3 which no one complains about. If you can't understand this, well I can't say I'm surprised.

after just listening to it for the first time I thought it was pretty good
lets not forget that Nyx's fight music is the same but velvet room woman doing her usual noises.
Izanami's fight also doesn't have lyrics same for Yaldabaoth,

>But user you were literally just arguing that the P4 cast wasn't friends while the P3 cast was
If you honestly think this is what I said then you're beyond help.

>S-sissy man
I love how hypocritical you are, and you can't even argue properly. Why not shift the goalposts some more.

>Uh you're wrong but I won't say why
I'm not the one who decided to completely shift what the argument was, sorry you're shit at this user

Did you learn that in your debate class today? Good for you. Anyway I repeat
You're a retard and you're mad that I insulted you so now you'll continue to argue even though you're incorrect and there's no reason to. This will go in circles unless one of us stops it now and you're not mature enough to. Tell yourself you "won" if it makes you feel better.

I'm playing Persona 2:IS along with 5, and 4:Golden right now, and I'm loving it as much as I did 3 but I wouldn't call myself a Persona fan.

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When people make arguments on Yea Forums, why do they talk like complete faggots? Please someone help me understand this. Reddit arguments are zoomers and Gamefaqs people are all boomers.

Played half of Persona 2 on the PSP but ended giving up due to how clunky the gameplay was

I just miss when the stories had weight and tension. When their used to be a sense of urgency and forward moment and not have every story beat diffused because of a weirdly patient Yakuza boss and series of threats while you just bum around do crap all.

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Ominous chanting is the best.

I guess it's just the way it is around here

>Did you learn that in your debate class today? Good for you. Anyway I repeat
I like how you don't even deny you were being hypocritical, good job there.
>You're a retard and you're mad that I insulted you so now you'll continue to argue even though you're incorrect and there's no reason to. This will go in circles unless one of us stops it now and you're not mature enough to. Tell yourself you "won" if it makes you feel better.
I've won the entire time user, and you throwing these little hissy fits isn't you acting mature in the slightest. It's really sad.

based

youtube.com/watch?v=vR9wfBrB9T4

>I just miss when the stories had weight and tension.
Yeah I also hated EP too

I tried to, honest, but the game is SOOO DAAAMMMMNN BOOOORING

But I've already played Persona 5.

Yeah I know you can't waste+ hours on nonsense side shit at all

the game fuckin spooked me though with its first random encounter happening out of nowhere

Last time I played i got to the weird movie theatre thing, I thought it looked like side content, but I could be wrong.

youtube.com/watch?v=obFUazSk5mc

>best game in the series
Not with that gameplay

Don't mind me, just the best track in the whole series passing through.
youtube.com/watch?v=zBw2xqrVcZE

The theater is side content, and actually the US version of the game had content cut in that regard

t. never played it.

It’s bevause those game are closer to SMT than visual novel aspects plus Atlus doesn’t give a shit about their older games.

I've always liked the lyrics in the Persona songs. I've always preferred P1 PSP's boss theme as an example.
youtube.com/watch?v=ZhkXBp4loSY

Most of the people who mindlessly praise P2 have never played it, that is true.

let me recall one things for you fags, persona started at 3

I can't say shit because atlus is very slowly trying to forget persona 3 happened


I mean great we got the dancing game but that's about it

I've played it, I'm not so sure about you though

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>I can't say shit because atlus is very slowly trying to forget persona 3 happened
How are they doing that? What qualifies as being 'forgotten' in this fanbase anymore? What does it even mean at this point?

Mainline smtfag here. Persona 2 gameplay is atrocious and put me off playing the game.

>I can't say shit because atlus is very slowly trying to forget persona 3 happened
There was 2 games released within the past 6 months that had the P3 cast. So how are they trying to pretend it didn't happen

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yall played the real first persona, right?

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Nothing. The only people that care about that shit are shitposters on Yea Forums.

shut up faggot, enjoy your phantom thieves

they did plenty of stuff for 3 and 4, and now it's time for 5

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P3 has a fuck ton of spinoffs and even their own perfumes released last year.

Why was the gyaru bullying Fuuka again? I can't remember because 3 is so forgettable.

>atlus is very slowly trying to forget persona 3 happened
i wish that were true, but no, they're still milking that shitty game as much as they can.

She was bullying Fuuka because Fuuka was just some nerd she picked on pretty much. They pushed her too far with one prank and Fuuka was trapped in the Dark Hour

I wish they kept the horror elements in persona. The atmosphere in 1 is pure kino.

youtu.be/Lz2l0toDvCg

youtu.be/pLxqqNocoQk

And yes there's more than just atmospheric tracks

youtu.be/aSAeG68fInY

youtu.be/lbMGzU8Rb34

I'd argue that every Persona game has horror elements, even P4. So personally for me that was an aspect they very much kept up with

>using the quality meme for P5A
Yikes

>Fighting game maybe

rumor mill is running strong.

I was gonna say I hope they just reuse the engine for ultimax but seeing how they milk the fuck out of it for BBXTag and take HALF A YEAR TO REUSE EXISTING ASSETS I have total faith they will

>A barebones dancing game that bombed
>Being the third wheel in a spin-off game that catered to P4 and P5 fans, with a bone tossed to people who wouldn't shut up about FeMC
P3 is still getting some attention but it does feel like they're phasing it out.
P5 fans are already turning on it because it's old and "muh AI party members", so unless Atlus remakes it, the view of it will only get worse with each new Persona game. Hell, it might even become an honorary SMT game like 1 and 2 at this rate.

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I only ever played IS and EP Persona wise. I can only see myself try out 1 really, i don't think 3-4 is for me

The dancing game had the exact same amount of content as P5D, does that mean they're phasing P5 out as well?

based

And most people who mindlessly hate it have never played it either. Huh, how 'bout that?

Nah, It feels like P4 is getting phased out more than P3.
P3 and P5 are still really popular in nipland while most fans don’t even care about P4
>that catered to P4 and P5 fans
Stop reaching user

How did they release 3 and 4 two years apart from each other?

that would be 5

if 4 has problems in writing then 5 should never have even been released

ehh, good story and cast but gameplay is atrocious

Because P4 reused a lot of assets from P3

I think you're reaching saying that P4 is being phased out more than P3 with no evidence

So much so actually that the entire P3 soundtrack is left on the P4 disc

you happy now

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Nice YouTube rip

I think you're reaching saying that P3 is being phased out more than P4 with no evidence

They reused a number of tracks and they even go to Gokkokan, so it makes sense.

>todays date
>youtube rip
Have this (you)

>If you're not with me you're against me!
I never said one was being phased out over the other. I think that P3+P4 are being kept around for the time being.

I did play persona 3 tho
In all seriousness I’m going through megaten and will come back to it maybe a year later

>no Trinity Soul

P5D could be excused since its game is the new kid but there's no reason P3D didn't have as much content as P4D besides Atlus getting greedy and making them both at the same time.

Mod your vita. It takes 2 minutes then download the game for free from their own servers.

>P3 and P5 are still really popular in nipland while most fans don’t even care about P4
Why was P3 so memorable while I can't care to replay P4? Edgy? Guessing just first Persona game I played bias.

>"muh AI party members"
It's obvious they did that for roleplay reasons. You're very much separated from your party members in gameplay. I think the most you can do from the triangle screen is view their status, though I think you have to talk to Mitsuru or the party member directly to do that. Could be seen as a bad design decision.

Is modding a PSTV hard? I've never modded a console before.

The only thing P4D has is a shitty story mode.
P3D has more content solely for the fact that every song in that game is an original remix hell they even remade two songs from P3.

It never fucking happened

There is literally nothing wrong with it. No easy is not a problem, and no slow isn't either.

Started with 5 and finished most of nusona(not buying the dancing games and arena story was terrible) and the waifufags legit ruin all discussion SMT is slowly getting it with monkey and toki fags

Random encounters with such a high encounter rate is a crime.

Genuinely liked this on PSP until I first encountered what the combat is actually like in this. Holy shit is it slow

I started it but the localization released during my most hectic semester of college so I didn't get very far.

Yes it did.

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This I can’t stomach this shit and have to take a lot of breaks the story and characters are really good it’s just ffs stop with the encounters

Even Hashino pretends Trinity Soul didn't happen

>most of nusona
So all of it? There’s only two other games.

I didn't really notice it much desu. P2 was fun.

Yes, easy is a problem, I could just set them to do a fusion spell on their turns and then autobattle through it, there was literally no thinking required. EP was mostly the same except sometimes I had to heal between those fusion spells, what a strategic gameplay system. Add on the enconter rate and those dungeons were just a massive chore, I was basically beelining through the dungeons just to get more plot, that's the only thing the game is good for anyway.

>SMT is slowly getting it with monkey and toki fags
I've been in SMT threads since SMT4:A came out and besides a few mentions, nobody even really discusses monkey vs toki.
Toki is better btw

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>detective naoto didn’t happen
>trinity souls never happened
We all agreed to this when we signed the contract

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Not waifu Wars just faggots posting fap pics and saying “breeding press x character”

Mainline persona and q

Ah, yeah I can see what you mean. Yeah that does happen occasionally, granted.

Yeah, I played 3, I'm just pointing out that complaint from people coming in through 5. The fact that you can't control them does sometimes make it feel like you're actually the leader. Once you get used to changing commands, it's barely noticeable unless they get you killed.
I'll admit I was wrong on that part. But many people complained about the mediocre story mode being taken out, hence the barebones part. Especially fair since they charged full-price each for both games.

Never felt like a leader with persona 4 desu and in persona 5 you feel like you’re the guy who able to make every plan work

I wish this shit was translated. It was the weirdest non official title and it was the first game to use demon whisper and demon level up.

I never read Detective Naoto, why do people pretend that never happened? I remember that Trinity Soul had stuff like "once you're 18 you can't use Personas" which was dumb

Naoto gets a persona that’s more like a jojo stand that can change outcomes but hardly uses it since she thinks “this isn’t lady like”

Persona's are fucking Stands though.

Playing EP currently!

How do you enjoy 1?
Random encounters always slow the game down, it took me a day before I got to the first boss then I dropped it.

Eh a persona is more generic due to it have to follow a game but naoto’s persona feels like a stand from part 5 to part 8

I really like Persona 1's PSP soundtrack, but for most it really doesn't fit the dungeon crawling and battle systems, and you're going to be doing both a lot.

I mean Personas are totally JoJo rip offs.

If I want to play IS and EP because I like Tatsuya's design, is that a justifiable reason to play it?

OVERWRITE THIS PAIN TEARING ME APART

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I really wish people would stop saying this. It's like calling a Digimon a Pokemon.

The battle theme is cool, but then hearing it for the entire game got grating.

Dream of Butterfly is goddamn GOAT though

>Asking permission from people online to play video games
Gotta earn those good boy points

I'm not asking permission for shit, I'm just trying to start conversation

I liked the PSP soundtracks and felt like they fit the game really well. Especially if you pay attention to the lyrics.

Different user here, also only played 5. I'm unlikely to ever play Persona 1 or 2, so would you mind telling me how 5 references them?

Same, it's cool that they added in the option in 4 and 5 but I wouldn't actually use it in those games.
Only going to get worse with V

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Yeah, Tatsuya's a cool dude who doesn't afraid of anything

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if Persona Q3 were to ever happen, would they go all in and add 1 and 2 or would they just remove 3

jojofags really are insufferable

The name "Joker" for one, which was used by a major antagonist in P2. P5 also tosses in a fucking huge red herring when Anne mentions "I feel like I've known you guys for a really long time". It meant jackshit in P5, but it was a major plot point in P2.

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Yeah since the games aren’t balanced for it don’t know why they have it in p4 set to default

LIVED IN BURIED MEMORY
WITH FEAR-RIDDEN SELF-CONSCIOUSNESS

Estoma
Thats it , the rest is up to you not being a brainlet and occasionally switching to personas that are immune to ailments

Katsuya is referenced in P5.

Don't forget the importance of rumors in the plot of of 5.
It surprised me a bit when I first played Golden after 3 and 5 and Yosuke attacked on his own.

I unironically love this soundtrack
youtube.com/watch?v=IQcnanaCjEA
youtube.com/watch?v=kKqXpfMdNVc
youtube.com/watch?v=bn9S5rfAom0
youtube.com/watch?v=y65oKsRJth8
youtube.com/watch?v=NR8bEpjr_4c

>It meant jackshit in P5,
How cqn you be so certain when P5R has shit like human morgana and not-dead wakaba, it might be areverse situation where P5R resets into P5

Emulator speeding things up, using maps and guides for stuff like the snow queen quest, liking the characters, and not minding playing over a couple of days.

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He’s called Joker because of his wild card ability

Considering that Joker was a huge deal in P2 and the nu-Persona games explicitly reference those early games, I believe it was a pretty obvious reference

of which they were referred to as fools for the previous games and even adachi was assigned as a jester instead of a joker

It's very precise wording going on here

i've pointed this out before, but...
>masked circle: a group of masked persona users, led by a guy named joker, who collect the "ideal energy" from people's dreams to bring about a utopian society
>phantom thieves: a group of masked persona users, led by a guy named joker, who collect the "treasures" from people's cognitions to reform society
this, more than anything else, is why pq2 should have been a crossover with p2 instead. a non-hack writer would have had the p2 cast bring this up and force the phantom thieves to question themselves more than they ever had to do in their own game.

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fuck you, stop making me want things that will never happen

This is actually why I wanted the P2 cast in PQ2, even though I knew it was basically never gonna happen. From what I understand they couldn't get permission from the director of P1+2 to use his characters

No they just don’t want to use those characters.

Blame P2 for flopping.

oh, and i almost forgot to mention this: in p2, each of the masked circle's executives had a crystal skull, which they used to drain people's ideal energy.
in p5, a crystal skull is one of the treasure demons that joker can collect in mementos.

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>No they just don’t want to use those characters.
No, Hashino said he doesn't want to use characters he didn't create without input from their creative team. Plus practically I imagine that for Q2, it would have just meant too many people.

Both crystal skulls are references to the actual mythological crystal skulls, of course

>tfw have a persona waifu but love mainline's gameplay and story so much more than persoshit

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iirc, the issue isn't that they couldn't get permission. it's that they think it would somehow be "disrespectful" to even try to use those characters in the first place.
of course, this excuse doesn't hold up when you consider all the subtle references they already work in from the old games, as well as all the plot points that hashino borrowed from them. if they're going to do all that, they might as well just go all the way, acknowledge 1 and 2, and treat them the same as 3, 4 and 5.

1 > EP > 3 > IS > 5 > 4

Daily reminder

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>he doesnt realize persona started as a devilman fanfic featuring akira from the devilman series
SAD.

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I'm guessing Hashino's well aware that the older fanbase isn't very receptive of his way of writing, and that he'd inevitably fuck up and ruin 1 and 2's cast. The backlash would be intense enough that he'd have to seppuku in public.

>everyone talks shit on P1's combat like it's the worst thing ever

>it's still blatantly better than any of the other games in that regard

nice series, babs

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hopefully now that he's not working on persona anymore, they'll start acknowledging 1 and 2 more. remakes would be nice.

I've got just the fucking solution for that. Hashino, are you reading this? The next time you have some wacky spinoff game that has absolutely no right being canon, and you're afraid that you might fuck up when writing for P1/P2 characters... just don't fucking write. Just have them in the games but not in whatever shitty story you're writing. You can have a character in a fighting game without needing to write them into your 20 hour long shitty visual novel story mode.

>implying that hackshino doesnt acknowledge the older games due to the fact that he steals ideas and concepts from if..., 1 and the p2 duology

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based, i'd agree with this but i've never played EP

But I have.

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Shit graphics.
Shit gameplay.
Shit characters.
Shit story.
No.

Remember how in P4 Arena when itsuki appeared for literally no reason and had absolutely zero bearing on the story?

yeah, I'm not disagreeing with you,, I'm just saying there's a precedent they're not taking advantage of

here they come boys

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Why doesn't Tad just tell Fatlus that he doesn't care if they exploit the early games and all he cared about was his self-insert hooking up with Tamaki.
We're way past the point where they would've been better off calling P3 something else.

Give me one (1) reason why 4 isn't the best Persona game.

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Because his self-insert hooking up with Tamaki is why he was fired. The waifufags were so assblasted they got him ousted.

youtube.com/watch?v=iENuOSfvGaE

it's good, it's certainly the weakest entry though. most of the characters i could give a less of a shit about and the story is cliche as fuck

Im ready

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>>implying that hackshino doesnt acknowledge the older games due to the fact that he steals ideas and concepts from if..., 1 and the p2 duology
Hashino was the real Phantom Thief all along..
Yet, Waifufagging of any degree is completely fine now. The irony is hilarious. Sometimes I wonder how Persona would be as a franchise if Tadashi were still the head instead of Hashino. Say what you will about the gameplay of the first two titles, but the story and characters were great.

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Teddie's mere existence drops the game to the bottom rung.

pretty agreeable

>it's certainly the weakest entry though.
You have definitely not played P1.

Imagine thinking 3 and 4 belong in the same batch as 5

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>Sometimes I wonder how Persona would be as a franchise if Tadashi were still the head instead of Hashino.
you would probably love pic related, then.

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P4 only has P1 beat in gameplay. Everything else I prefer 1 to

>A modern game takes more resources and a bigger team to develop than older titles
*Gasp*

am a nu-persona fan considering playing this to become ascended, is the psp version fine? Also, I've heard there are two versions, which do I play first?

Fucking based.

I can't wait to see P5 niggers on suicide watch when Persona 6 blows it out of the water. Since Hashino doesn't have any more shit to steal and isn't even working on the game to begin with, they'll finally have to start applying effort to make proper plot and characters.

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EP is a straight sequel to IS, play them in order. The PSP port of IS is fine and generally preferable, but the PSP port of EP was never translated and the fan translation is never ever, so you'll probably have to play the US version on PSX.

PSP version is fine, but eventually you'll have to find a way to play the PS version of Eternal Punishment.
They aren't two versions, one comes first and then the other's a sequel. Innocent Sin is first, and the easier of the two

It's worth putting up with 2's horrible gameplay for the story. It's interesting and well written, easily on the level of Yea Forums stuff desu...

1 is a pile of shit I have no idea how you enjoyed it

anyone who would actually be mad if p6 turned out to be better than p5 is a shitposter, not a real fan of the series. that also applies to the 3fags and 4babbies who have been seething over 5.

Why do people call out 3 or 4 fans and not 1 and especially 2? If anyone has shit to say about Persona 5, it's fans of 2.

I really want to play Eternal Punishment (i'd prefer the psp version but i know it doesn't exist) how does it play on psone, is it way worse than the psp version?

I actually wonder if they'd give the reigns back to Tadashi for P6 or later. At the very least have him doing something in terms of story or character development. Who's the director for P6 again anyway?

It's fine. The PSP ports really only made the UI more friendly and made the voice acting not god awful.
Maya on PSX is voiced by the woman who did Bubsy in Bubsy 3D.

That was one of the biggest disappointments recently. The premise was very interesting, but the actual execution was on the level of a mediocre anime. That is, really bad. Boring gameplay and copypaste "sidequests" didn't help. Dropped it after the library dungeon. My friend who completed it said it doesn't improve later on.

i'm a 2fag and i liked 5, i think it's the best of the nu-personas. whenever i see persona fans shitting on 5, most of the time it turns out to be p3fags.

>He thinks there's going to be a Persona 6

Persona Fans and Nu-êrsona fans are both fags
SMT fan master race

it's okay because smt 5 will do that job just fine for you

plus a lot of idiots don't get the full P2 experience because they never played 1

This is the worst jrpg I have played in my life.
>woah it was us all along that did that, I forgot lol
>do you wanna punch god?

No charisma, insipid dialogue, boring gameplay, easy as fuck.
And worse than every smt game.

it's actually my favorite game of the year so far, but i ignored the pointless causality link gimmick and all the tedious side quests that come with it, so that's probably a big reason why i liked it more than most.
i did the musician route and loved it. i ended up liking most of the musicians more than anyone in the go-home club. it made me wish persona did something like that.
also, the soundtrack is god-tier, one of the best video game soundtracks ever, and i'm not exaggerating.

Me in the middle.

>the soundtrack is god-tier, one of the best video game soundtracks ever, and i'm not exaggerating.
Post tracks.

mainline's writing isn't as good as satomi's.

wasnt that just one of the shadows made by hino kagutsuchi or minazuki (I cant remember which was the one that made the shadow versions of the characters)

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just finished P5
was ok desu I think I will be buying royale when it comes out
can't wait for catherine also

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As far as I know P2 and P5 fans are the same people

Because Fuuka was an honor student and had no friends.

>tfw no attractive older woman to prey on me
>tfw I'm almost her age now

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She's like 50 now

You know exactly what I mean

Yeah, I know she's actually 43

That's purely the writing staff, that has nothing to do with age or technology

>twn bang a milf Maya and Ulala

It really annoys me that I can’t play the PSP version of EP in English.

Do you guys think Ohya was originally supposed to be Maya in the original draft of P5? I think about whether or not it's likely sometimes, all the pieces are there honestly.

Based.

so I just finished 5 like I said i have my does for now but what persona should I play in the future
P3FES sounds good but i don't have ps3

P3FES is a PS2 game

oh right so i can just emulate that shit ok

pfft, ohya wishes she was maya.
that does make me wish they'd bring old games' characters back for social links as adults, though.

Maybe P6 will, since Hashino is gone. I've heard Satomi Tadashi did some freelance stuff back at Atlus a couple years ago so I doubt they're still on bad terms. Right? Please? The characters are starting to get pretty old...

Tadashi wrote the new stuff for EPP in 2012, EPP sold like complete trash though

based, Persona 2 duology has the best story

I'll get to it after i finish Digital Devil saga 1 and 2, Raidou 2, Devil Survivor 2, and Nocturne

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Not when 3 exists.

Tadashi was literally the writer for the Caligula Effect. He's still active in Atlus. I just want to see him return to working on Persona games since Hashino is probably bored of them, on top of working on Re:Fantasy.
Feel free to stop shitposting about 3 at anytime. All the recent insurgence of 3 shitposting is annoying.

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3 is eternal kino.

The PSP version of IS sucks. The problems with it were fixed in the port for EP and that was never brought over by Atlus.

There's only been an excess of people talking about 3 because some Yukariposter from the Persona General on /vg/ claimed to shitpost and start wars between it and Persona 5. It's retarded/

I have literally been waiting like 5 years for the ep fan translation that ive literally forgot what happened in IS

should i just cave and play the PS1 version and replay IS for a refresher?

>Tadashi was literally the writer for the Caligula Effect. He's still active in Atlus.
caligula effect was developed by aquria, atlus just published the vita version in the west. it would be awesome if he came back to persona, but i doubt it will ever happen.

Caligula isn't atlus

3 doesn't even have a story until the last month. the rest of the game is pokemon johto anime-tier filler.

Except JoJo predates Persona by decades.

Am I the only one who wants a game where you play as Tatsuya where he was sent back to the destroyed world, killing demons and shit. Maybe make it a hybrid of gameplay between smt and persona with tatsuya using his persona and summoning demons maybe with the help tamaki, I am pretty sure she was in samaru city still at the end of IS at least

Because Fuuka deserved it.

>I really wish people would stop saying this
Persona's creation was literally influenced by JoJo. It's even been stated in an old interview.

>Am I the only one
Statistically unlikely.

that's beyond bullshit and you know it

Anytime people say this, I can almost certainly tell that they haven't actually played the game.

What the fuck would they know anyway. They started with Persona 4. Don't reply to these retards.

Cringe

Its okay user, considering how popular persona is getting, we will soon enough see the oposite; people calling stands "personas"

That's objectively false. If you mean the game doesn't get into the meat of the plot until around the climax or ending segment, then yes. To say it's completely devoid of plot until the climax though is absurd, and you'd know as such if you payed attention. It's cool if you dislike P3, but don't spout idiocy.

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Maya is such a good girl

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>Persona 1 is literally just Jojo Part 3 in Japan instead of Egypt.
How in the ever loving fuck do you reach this conclusion? Please list the similarities for me, none come to mind at all.

this is nineties as fuck dude

hes retarded. end of discussion

Because Nocturne is better than Persona 1 and 2.

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>both P1 and P2 so censored and butchered and terribly made that even P1 and P2 fans ignore them

It's almost tragic if it wasn't so funny

the real sadness is no persona 6 for another decade.
but ill be in my midlife crisis then and can relive nip hs to make it worst

This.

The only thing Fuuka deserves is the utmost love and respect!

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why do jojo redditors start this shit in every persona thread? nobody cares, and persona is better than jojo anyway.

Fuuka is garbage.

Not high enough

based

Fuuka is the farthest thing away from garbage! She's an angel!

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This. Honestly fuck Jojofags.

JoJo is reddit repellent.

why do you reply to obvious bait?

>JoJo is reddit
It truly is.

the fanbase is quite reddit but the series is god tier

t. reddit

Better not be talking a shit about Steel Ball Run.

>The P1/P2 baby is mad at the SMT Idort for telling the truth.
No need to be upset for a SMTbro that enjoys the whole SMT and Persona games, had to tell the truth.

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For me it's bimbo Aigis

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Nocturne has literally 0 (zero) waifus, lmao what a shit heap trash game.

>b-but the teacher
>b-but chiaki
Nice shit taste faggot.

Find a flaw.

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>Rumors becoming real
>A Jojo plot
You either didn't read jojo or didn't play P2

Now make like Jotaro and split

>chaoskiddie

>Chiaki
>shit
You're just mad you're not good at anything to benefit from her reason

She's not beaner chaos.

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falseflag bait post 2 obvious 3/10

What the fuck was his problem?

>Befriends a shitty demon and summons him all the fucking time and goes crazy from some shitty ain't shit virus nobody gives a fuck about

Begone heathen

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I'm gonna say the N word.

NIGGER

That's our word, you can't use it

He cared too much.

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lul

NIGGER

Faggot h*mans wanted to kill his pokemon for no reason.

I prefer SMT to Persona as a whole but P2:IS is one of my favorite game of all times. What am I then ? Have yet to complete EP tho.
The ost was great, the cast is likable, the rumor mechanic was interesting and the story was batshit crazy in a good way. Very memorable.
youtu.be/CU_KneL2qac
youtu.be/P9wPAoWPKno
youtu.be/3dChm7CjBkg
youtu.be/qeccj9gKLtE the feels... ;_;

dijeh.tumblr.com/post/56081922481/remember-that-one-araki-x-kaneko-interview-its
"Kaneko: It would be boring if they were all-powerful. It’s good that the characters in your manga also have weak points they can overcome. We use demons in our games, but we thought of adding a slightly different nuance to it - “What if we used them as guardian spirits?”. That’s how the concept of Persona was born. We call them guardian spirits, but they are actually great Indian gods or all kinds of demons. Just as the name suggests, doesn’t Persona mean someone’s “personality”? One’s other self. So, how should I put it, there are all kinds of “other selves”, from the characters’ current appearance, to their manner of speech and even to their job. I thought I’d combine them all. That’s how the characters in the game started moving around naturally."
N..no! JoJo didn't influence persona in any way! It is unique! M..mommy where are my chicken tendies?

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we talkin jojo?
5 > 7 > 3 > 4 > 1 > 2
giogio > jonathan > josuke > johnny > jotaro> jolyne > joseph

Nobody said it wasn't an influence, brainlet. We said P1 isn't literally a retelling of Stardust Crusaders, because in what fucking possible way could anyone say it is besides "they have guardian spirits" and maybe "they're in a jail near the beginning?"

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You are talking about some other retard. That wasn't me so fuck you. I was telling off the other retards that were talking shit you fucking retard. MOMMY WHERE ARE CHICKEN TENDIES??!!

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