korea time nerds, get the fuck in here, come get warm or cool depending on the hemisphere and come watch brood war It's the final matches of KSL groups A and B tonight, C and D tomorrow then we're into the ro8 >Sharp vs Modesty (bo5, winner advances, loser elim'd) >MIsO vs Snow (bo5, same as above) tomorrow >Action vs Mini >Last vs Stork
its kinda nice how the three strongest players in the tourney are all of a different race (flash not playing so he's exluded) also Rain just needs to up his autismo levels
No. Don't be greedy, having the asl and ksl when bw is clinging to life is great as it is.
Luke Rogers
I wonder if south koreans scream GG while they cum
Christopher Brown
Did you guys see that Flash v Effort match Flash put on his Youtube channel? It was an action packed completely nuts game. Flash lost so many units, and was playing defensive most of the time. He only managed to take out 2 bases, which Effort re-established. Meanwhile Effort was attaking every location of Flash constantly. Effort won.
Elijah Wood
I was gonna unironically kill myself then I remembered korea time and now artosis' voice calmed me down
Nicholas Baker
Playing in window mode should give him an advantage. It's less distance to travel for the cursor, and your eyes have to move less.
Luis Howard
>Flash says he can't play in the tourney because his wrists hurts >plays like a shitton of matches each day online >uploads 4-5 vids regularly of him playing fucking double gook
did anybody see that "starcraft: end of the world" series that started up this week? it was super good. Every tuesday till the end of june, every match is 9 games between 2 players. Not best of 9, just 9 games, even if it's 9:0.
the first week's was Flash vs. Best, the games were super good. I started a thread for it but it died after like 20 replies. VOD is here vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/44174601
thanks user, flash vs best is fun to watch since best is one of the few who outright outmacros flash.
Jose Young
Good irradiate.
Justin Hall
Wow, GG.
Brayden Morris
I MAEK MUTA
Julian Roberts
gg
Evan Ward
yeah. most protoss just get rolled by flash because the can't match his macro and his pushes just wipe them off the map.
Best was constantly able to have multiple big armies moving around the map wiping out chunks of flash's army constantly and not letting him get enough tanks to just run him over.
Brody Morris
>you will never watch KSL with your cute Korean gf why live bros
Carson Sanders
to be fair, modesty does literally maek muta. He loves anything with wings. he's like the zerg leta
Landon Myers
i only watch GSL, watched a lot of WCS for the last year because of Serral but mostly boring this year apart from finals.
Fucking transition you dumb fuck of a zerg, jesus.
Chase Sanders
not the guy you replying to, but sometimes I tune in too then I watch Protoss A-Move while the Terran's wrist explode and wonder where it all went so wrong
Adam Morris
I was never really into SC1 because of 9/11 happening and then WC3
Hudson Ortiz
>now going mtf is a good thing according to 4chin lol
Yeah that's incredibly stupid. I hope your brain recovered.
Easton Robinson
The lore doesn't match the units. Protoss are meant to be super advanced space elves just on another level than Terrans. Yet army vs army, T dominates in-game.
Mason Roberts
There was that fanmade SC MMO. Dunno what happened. Did Blizzard interfered?
Andrew Young
bloody hell this is one of the dumbest things i've ever read on this website. bravo user
Scale-wise, if you trust the cinematics, then Battlecruisers should be about half the map.
Landon Phillips
unlucky. but we can hope.. and AOE4 is dead isn't it.
Tyler Carter
there's almost daily WC3 tournaments
Thomas Myers
>anyways hopefully WC3 Reforged and AOE4 revive the RTS genre I guess it didn't recover.
Julian Watson
Reforged sadly looks like Dog Shit though imo, the muted colours because of muh WoW really hurts my eyes tfw I still have PTSD from fucking Blademasters running into my Peasant lines
Robert Wright
AoE 2 is well and alive though. Hidden Cup is a brilliant aspect
Gavin Young
wc3r looks like shit and aoe4 is ded stick with bw until the eventual sc3 which turns out to be trash and then go back to bw
>sc3 You mean Starcraft: Immortal, the upcoming mobile experience?
Elijah Baker
RTS will be reborn in VR where you use your hands to select units directly instead of through a keyboard
Eli Cooper
>Hidden Cup is a brilliant aspect I wish more games did this, i don't even watch or play AOE but that tournament was amazing.
Gavin Hernandez
>vr dragoons >literally have to push them by hand to correct for terrible pathing
Adrian Torres
so just like BW
Anthony Ward
looking forward to see the retard-protoss build
David Morgan
iirc there's a level in the campaign that takes place entirely inside a science vessel
Eli Edwards
Yes, but ACTUALLY pushing them
Jordan Kelly
yea, its a Zerg Vanilla mission. you go in to get the Ghost information for Kerrigan so she can unlock her blockers from the indoctrination
Joshua Evans
>have to cup your hands around their head like horse blinders to try to get them to walk straight
Robert Green
Yeah, a zerg mission where you control kerrigan and some other stuff, you're there to get access to ghost research. IIRC after that mission you get Psionic Storm for Kerrigan. An orbital science vessel station may not be the same science vessel as you control during maps though.
Cooper White
>protoass chads get into heavy weight lifting so they can push their dragoons around because the vr takes the strength of your push into account and the virtual dragoons are heavy
Matthew Campbell
you have a virtual rope you have to tow them around the map using bodily strength
Hudson White
In the level splash, it's pretty clearly the same sort of ship. You could make the argument they just have the same "shape" of ship but scaled up or down, but I think the implication is they are actually huge but scaled down for gameplay purposes
Zachary Jones
yeah it's kinda hard to say. it doesn't look quite as SPHERICAL but who knows
Imagine trying to do that for HOURS on end. Your hands would get tired.
Elijah Robinson
How did this build worked.
Luis Peterson
Not the user who linked that, but the user who said "level splash" i called it that because they show a picture of where the level is going to take place before the breifing and mission, kind of like a little splash screen
Grayson Baker
CUHHHRAZZY ZERG
Christopher Sanders
jiji?
Leo Barnes
>mfw you're a 300 ton elephant monster >you see a cute medic in front of the marines >feel bad about crushing her with your fat body >her friends murder you with machine guns hurts a little bit
yeah it's not scout level rare, but it's still fun to see
Hudson White
Modesty vs cloaked wraiths again.
Logan Parker
modesty is so insanely shit
Chase Gray
Leta-approved match
Charles Anderson
jesus this is such a bizarre game
if modesty hadn't lost those first overlords the game'd be over there
Wyatt Barnes
watched a really old replay on the archive channel >terran tries to push with marine/tank a toss >toss defends with fucking scouts after killing all the marines >terran has not enough ressources to build an armory and keep up tank production early matches are a helluva meme
Brayden Ward
Scouts are so powerful they don't even need to be built to deny terran their tech tree.
maybe 3 guardians, and the rest devourers, then camp them where mehreens can't go
Noah Rivera
What was that series Wolf and Rapid casted a year ago that was sponsored by Korean Air?
I think overall it was a failure, and that's why it only lasted one season.
Landon Miller
sparkle was an island map yeah. made for some hilarious games though
Connor Thompson
it was hilarious and depressing at the same time
Lucas Smith
>he missed out on sparkle asl5 was such a fucking mess. they still make fun of sparkle sometimes. it was a neat experiment but island maps are never coming back
There was a really good game by Flash on Sparkle. The outcome was that he still lost because Sparkle was hell for TvP, but I recall there being some maneuver he did that just blew me away
Angel Myers
root for best, soulkey, rain or stork then my monster sipping friend
Joseph Price
Anyone have a good guide for streamlink?
Liam Wood
it's odd, I remember protoss beating terran on sparkle too (just not as badly as they did against zerg), but the liquipedia stats say otherwise. weird
The location of the venue this season is garbage and it's not worth paying money for a seat. Doesn't surprise me that it's empty. t. lives on the other side of Seoul.
Blake Johnson
>that one ZvZ
Ryder Peterson
Just close your eyes when you see JD on Third World. Most depressing match you'll ever see.
Samuel Hughes
Best is best. Not a fan of stork and both neo.g_soulkey and by.sun are babbies.
Robert Lewis
i thought the seats were free and they gave out shit to get people to come, or is that only GSL
Thomas Thomas
i remember there was one pvp where both players made a bunch of archons and their respective colors made it impossible to tell which units belonged to who. biggest clusterfuck ever
Matthew Evans
>and it's not worth paying money for a seat.
Does KSL require you to pay tickets? I know ASL has that.
Christian Garcia
they're rather good at starcraft though my dude
Ryder Reyes
>cheering for people because they're good
Ian Flores
you're right silly me. we should cheer for the oldest player in each match.
Christopher Nguyen
KSL usually has some raffles from time to time but it costs $5 to attend and it's annoying to buy tickets (only sold online) because you need to install Korean bloatware programs to do so. GSL has free seats (used to even have free food back in the day sometimes) and also has some giveaways too.
At least KSL last season was like a 5-10 minute trip for me, now it's an hour.
Parker Perry
general admission seems to be 5000 KRW / 4,20 USD / 3,70 EUR
Jacob Reyes
bros what do you guys eat while watching i got fucking pizza
Easton Diaz
I'm gonna go heat up some taco soup before the next match starts
Hunter Murphy
I'm out of carrots, so just some water with ice for now
Andrew Hughes
I made a bag of stove popped popcorn, but I already went through it. Might make some spice tea
Evan Nguyen
Patch 1.18.0 PTR A
>Valkyries will fire missiles regardless of population size >Dragoons will not freeze and require a Stop order before accepting new orders
Jeremiah Adams
Hershey's kisses. Korea time is too far from mealtimes in my time zone for real food. I go through about 5 or 6 glasses of milk though.
Jace Sanders
good
Jeremiah Ward
the Valkyrie problem is really specific and non-existent in 1vs1s
William Turner
had some beef jerky and like 3 glasses of water
Nicholas Walker
Having some hot chocolate milk with oreos in the morning of a chilly day
toast with butter, melted cheese, tomato and oregano
Cameron Sullivan
hot roast pork dinner, in front of the heater, while freezing wind howls outside. i am truly approaching levels of comfy that shouldn't be possible
Brayden King
Fuck that cat is long.
Luke Mitchell
Caracals are CUTE
Asher Bennett
heh, should call him long cat
Joshua Lewis
somebody should make a meme of that
Isaac Rivera
Nah, that'd be lame. Like, imagine how long until someone made some unoriginal ripoff of it. probably just do some lazy shitlike flip the name and pretend it's some new meme.
Caleb Hernandez
hm, I'm not sure that's enough to stand on its own. I think it needs an adversary, like some sort of anti-long cat
more recently we had nada with his nearly successful nuke rush
Isaac Moore
Nada tried a sickass nuke rush recently, would have worked too if he targeted in front of the sunkens instead of trying to hit them directly
Alexander Ward
we had some wild matches in the last seasons I forgot who it was again but >Toss builds Fleet Beacon >Terran BUILDS GHOST LOCKDOWN >Toss actually builds Corsairs with DWeb and then obviously Leta with his magical power dumbing down everyone he's playing to comical levels >"Ghosts have stealth and can shoot?!"
Michael Walker
the fact that it didn't work was heartbreaking he really deserved a win there
That image made me realise how much I miss ASL's random colours
Bentley Evans
this guy is right if Nada had placed the nuke like half a sunken infront it would've worked out. this is specific hail mary one time timing push you can try. Useable I guess in Bo5 or if you are really ballsy in a Bo1
Samuel Brown
>want to learn Protoss since their gameplan gels with me so much better >but Terran music and voicelines are the best in the game HELP
>tfw only Elite Guard, Mara Sara, Tiamat Brood, Surtur Brood, Ara Tribe and Sargas Tribe >tfw no akilae tribe, furinax tribe, leviathan brood or kelmorian combine
Joseph Wood
>random colors >good music >actual audio engineers handling volume balance >pregame 1a2a3a4a gogogogogogo shown asl is so much better, but I"ll take what I can get. it's nice that there's basically no downtime between the two tournaments
enjoying the gameplay itself is more important even though the terran music is clearly better
Isaac Thompson
iirc the other problem was he didn't put his science vessel over the ghost so it was able to be targeted down pretty fast
Ayden Bell
protoss music is the best though
Ryan Butler
>admitting you relate to protoss scum very brave of you
Lucas Robinson
why doesn't miso do anything with his lings? He barely killed any probes and then took the shields off the nexus, now zealots are out and it's too late to do anything. He should have just dived on the probes at least.
Juan Wilson
They're the most honest race though They're so honest they gimp themselves by not even using the Scout to give terran & zerg a chance
Is Brood War actually balanced? Is there any general agreement on one race being the best or any bad matchups?
Sebastian Rodriguez
Tasteless actually said "Mis-u" this time around. Is he reading this thread or did a producer tell him he's not a Japanese soup?
John Gray
Protoss wins
Alexander Bailey
>the question is can misu--miso come back? he cant even keep it straight in the same sentence
Andrew Bell
The maps actually are needed for balance.
Ramps and chokes prevent zerg rushes being unbalanced. Right now they're useful, but not a simple win button.
If one race dominates too much they change maps a bit. One thing that's common is to reduce the amount of buildable terrain in the middle of the map, as T usually sets up Turrets and supply depos as forward walls. You have to spend a LOT of zealots to break these positions. Gives T a huge advantage.
Parker Rivera
terran is OP
Christian Adams
A lot of players in Korea think Terran is the strongest race, but it's something that's often disputed and there isn't really a clear answer but the important thing is that race matchups as a whole aren't as important as matchups on specific maps, which vary drastically
Ryan Myers
Zerg steamrolls
Xavier Ramirez
protoss is op but less op than in sc2 ignore the probabs whinging about the other races
No, everyone says that (the race I play) is underpowered and (the race I struggle with) is overpowered. Thing is, no one agrees on who the under/overpowered races are.
The balance is map based. Anyone whining that any of the races is OP is just angry because they lose to that particular race the most when they play. It depends on each map.
Did you guys know tastless started a podcast, it's pretty comfy
Hudson Green
>Nick wants 1,000 dollars and he'll be your friend prostitute
Also he started it like a decade too late.
Jeremiah Allen
>Nick wants 1,000 dollars and he'll be your friend prostitute What?
Benjamin Flores
Oh hey, guys, did you call me? You finally need me? Haha not that I've been waiting by the phone or anything. Oh, n-not yet? Ok, well if you want to put me in just let me know. If I don't already have other plans, that is! Please...
Nick is the kind of guy who would add that as a "joke", and totally play it off as that, but he secretly wishes someone would do that because he likes money and will do anything for a quick effortless buck.
For a grand, you can get a nice whore to bounce off your dick once a month vs. Talking to some fat balding "e-celeb".
zerg units cost like nothing in supply. Zerg will never, ever max out, if they do you're so dead it's not even a contest. Beyond losing overlords, supply cap is a non-event to zerg
Aiden Thompson
What a lame-ass set of series.
Why are these low level players like Miso and Modesty in KSL?! Where's Larva, and others?
Larva didn't even qualify. Flash just didn't care about even showing up.
Cameron Davis
>larva eliminated in qualifiers because he's shit >flash >effort sat out >bisu >hero army
Is shuttle in the army now?
Lincoln Bennett
Method man, a man worth millions, says he promotes some food delivery company on instagram because they give him free boxes of food.
You have to get into these guy's mindset. They have a businessman mindset, anything for a paycheck and make more cash. Nick is just lazy and doesn't try that hard.
I want to see him shill Korean Wine to complete the Orson Welles transformation.
Joseph James
Larva lost to Shine in the Qualifiers. 3-2.
Adrian Bailey
who did mong lose to
Anthony Butler
Effort is going to the military. He's been doing some streaming and online matches against Flash and others as a kind of send-off.
Ayden Powell
>I want to see him shill Korean Wine to complete the Orson Welles transformation.
I'd only do that for thinks that have actual purpose, like Gamer Grub®. Seriously, stop eating like a noob
Jeremiah Cooper
>ksl season 3 qualifiers >192 players >1 canadian >1 belgian >190 south koreans
Christian Howard
The shitters need to get eliminated first. That won't happen until Ro8.
Bentley Green
The tournament is still in the first stage. the group stage of ksl is like 90% of the tournament. The good news is the the ro8 is looking actually really good, in terms of even matches. BeSt Sharp Ample Snow Soulkey Rain Mini (probably) Last (probably)
Alright fags, tonight was kind of eh. okay. Tomorrow should be nice. >Action v. Mini >Last v. Stork don't miss it!
Juan Richardson
>like Gamer Grub®.
Oh, god that was such hot garbage!
You want actual "Gamer fuel"? Clean eating, and good whole foods. Eat like a can of sardines, greek yogurt, oats, bananas, blueberies, etc.
Who are the two foreigners? One was Cadenza or whatever, the soft spoken Irish-girl. Is she the Canadian?
Carson Murphy
Wait a second, does the winner of action vs mini play ample the zerg sniper? So if action wins, AMPLE is going to be in the ro4?
Samuel Bell
Indigestion.
Dominic Sullivan
looking up larva in the qualifiers reminded me to check the asl season 7 qualifiers, and there's our boy
Eonzerg is the belgian. He's probably the best non-korean in the world at BW at the moment, him or dewalt. he's at like 2500mmr, which is slightly below being able to qualify for asl, but maybe luck through with an easy bracket, worth trying to qualify for.
Artosis competes in qualifiers? Hilarious he got so far in there and actually beat someone. What would he do if he ever actually qualified for the main stage? Tatseless solo cast of Artosis vs a Korean!?
Kevin Hernandez
How much longer do you think brood war will stick around?
Nicholas Nelson
How come Starcraft is dead as a series? I can't think of a RTS bigger than it and yet the only games on PC that are popular are fucking ASSFAGGOTS, a literal custom game mode spawned from it, or shit like Fortnite.
Eli Brown
The second Korea loses interest, it'll fall into obscurity.
Easton Miller
getting gud at rts is too much work compared to rts/fps also 2 is really bad
Ian Parker
RTS as a genre is an ice cold corpse. Also, the people who actually like the series know that any new Starcraft game will be trash and Bilizzard doesn't have the talent to pull it off anymore. They know it won't surpass Brood War.
William Brown
RTS is part of holy trinity of dead genres along with Arena Shooters and Fighting Games
They are dead because they are skill based 1vs1's with no RNG. Everyone wants teammates to carry them or to blame for losing.
it's only dead in terms of development, not playerbase.
Carson Diaz
>Casuals have assfaggots now. It's like fighting games and smash & tekken. for sure
Camden Peterson
>It just shows that the current skill disparity is so big. In some cases yes but >snow 3-0ed miso but miso beat him in the opening match >action 3-0ed mini but most people would still favor mini tomorrow >stork beating jaedong was a big upset
Grayson Garcia
I remember him mentioning on the pylon show I think, before that qualifier when it was coming up, they cover starcraft news and upcoming events in that show and he mentioned how he usually tries out for qualifiers and feels really good when he gets some wins out of the other qualifiers
Nolan Hughes
ah ksl is bankrolled by blizzard?
Xavier Carter
Artosis is legitimately good at BW, he's around 2300 MMR which puts him solidly in the top 1%, he's on the lower range of the Korean pros.
Xavier Brooks
ksl is the blizzard tournament, asl is by afreeca (korean twitch)
Is it too late to get into SC2 comp. now? I played the first game and when SC2 just came out casually but never competitively is the meta just too stale now?
Asher Cook
The SC2 meta shifts very fast. In the last 2 months the entire TvP meta has shifted from barracks to factory units and BC's.
Robert White
where are the sc2 niggas these days discord is dead and redd*t is full of soi
Adam Morales
Artosisalty
Ryder Williams
stop remaking your shitty starcraft general
Nathaniel Young
This is not a general, or even an attempt at the sc2 general you dumb fucking retard. It's clearly an event 2 days a week, for a different game, broodwar.