Now that we know who the DLC will be, who do you plan to main?

>no toy venom
YOUR ROSTER IS SHIT

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Replace Artorias with Chosen Undead and have Solaire as an Echo fighter and I'd be extremely happy

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7

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post that shit

I'm not a Smashfag, but this Doom Guy shit piques my interest; is that actially possible or just a meme?

Not in the new games

If there was any chance in hell of a Dark Souls rep you know goddamn well who it would actually be.

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>when there is currently 2 Roy’s in Ultimate

as much as I want to believe this roster, I can't help but feel it's that rosalina amiibo fucker again.

>an NPC as a rep for the franchise instead of the protagonist
Solaire would either be an alt skin or an Echo fighter

>2 Roys
>2 Marios
>3 Links

This lineup looks edgelord tier pretentious as fuck with Banjo & Kazooie looking incredibly out of place. I can imagine the person who came up with this looks like pic related

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>Knight Artorias and not the Chosen Undead
>Ryu Hayabusa when Ninja Gaiden has been MIA for a decade

>Ryu Hayabusa in his Xbox outfit
He would look like he does in the NES Ninja Gaiden

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>especially for the final character.
If he's in I don't think he will be the final one. Final one will probably be a shill pick like Corrin and Bayonetta in 3.

I'd rather see this

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Fucking hear me out dude

>Joker
>Steve
>Erdrick
>Sub-Zero
>Connor Kenway

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>banjo
What a shame.

No, he will have both the modern and retro one, like DOA.

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Um... Nintendo? This is not okay? It's current year. Where is the female representation?

>blaming swords when the actual problem is obvious

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>Xbox
He wears it in every DoA game and the DS game He should have both.

If we get another Capcom character is going to be a RE rep, not Dante.
Either Chris/Jill from RE1 or Leon in both his RE2 and RE4 outfits

Robin and Corrin are pretty different from the rest.

Still more homogeneous than the top half is.

The real line up is Joker, Steve, Erdrick, Reimu and Miku. Screencap this

Robin is better than Joker, Mii Swordfighter, The Link Clones, and Cloud though.

Are you guys retarded? If any Capcom rep it's Monster Hunter. World is the best selling capcom game period, no way in hell they'll waste a spot on a edgefag, and sun dog, or a cop.

uh???

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Robin is literally 1 out of 7 characters.

Doomguy is the same guy as Doom Slayer and what he's called in the new games.

He's in.

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What fuckhead keeps posting toy venom in literally everythread

fuck Ninjafags

Yeah this is too good to be true and I won't be believing this shit

wakey wakey
we're in

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Hey man I never said they have a chance. I just said I'd rather see them

Stop editing that pic you fucking troll, this was already confirmed.

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>and Cloud
I disagree. Cloud is really fucking fun to play as. But I like him better than any Link

Deal with it.

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>Erdrick

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Doom Eternal is coming out so Doom Slayer would make sense as the "shill pick." Alternatively the case could be made that Joker already fits that slot.

>Not Slave Knight Gael
low quality image, amigo

>hating on other peoples choices

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>Banjo & Kazooie looking incredibly out of place

Do you understand the point of Smash

>plantfag

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This.

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user, what are you doing? Do you genuinely think your posts are funny? Do you genuinely think people are paying any attention to you? Because you'd be delusional if you believe any of this stuff.

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>people acting like they have a choice when these five have already been confirmed by the Google Leak

The sooner you accept it, the better.

Plantfags absolutely btfo

Helloooooooo Sunshine!

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I JUST LIKE TOY VENOM AS A CHARACTER

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what evidence do we have of the google leak being real

Yeah. Just like the Grinch leak was """confirmed"""

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>have two echo fighters which are just basically glorified skins
>Ike, Robin, and Corrin all have very different movesets entirely
>Roy and Marth have more differences between each other than any of the three links do

I mean fair point on the visual design, they really could stand to not have swooshy-haired lightly armored caped young man, but I'd argue that Robin looks visually different with his big cloak, book, and unique levin sword.

>Grinchfag has desperately latched onto google

>Mii Swordfighter
>Three fucking links with the same moveset
>Stretching to count ganondorf in it as if his brawler movest suddenly becomes sword focused because of a different smash

Yeah no you're full of shit. The problem is there are 4 goddamn Marths in the game. Ike, Robin, and Corrin are cool.

YOU CAN'T BURY HAYABUSA, TECMO
NIOH ISN'T GOING TO SAVE YOU IN THE END
RYU HAYABUSA LIVES

Based plantposter

At least Google theory supporters are being more calm about their rumour when compared to Grinchfags.

They're still putting their hopes on something retarded. Again

The difference is unlike the Grinch leak, not a single person has been able to disprove the Google leak.

So, I've never touched Dark Souls. Sell me on this Artorious character. What can he do? He design is pretty kicking, not gonna lie, but what kinds of abilities does he have? What kind of fighting style would he present? What would make him unique in this scenario?

Reminder Googlets:

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That's exactly what everyone kept saying about the Grinch. How new are you?

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I don't believe in any theories or rumors. Is just that I really want him and he would be at home with the Smash cast. So I'm happy to see he's being rumored more often.

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>not a single person has been able to disprove the Google leak.
Yes they have. But you are just refusing to listen. Literally the exact same thing as the Grinch Leak.

What's the proof?

Post it, then.

And I'm yet to see the ridiculous amount of fanart for this theory, which the Grinch hoax had.

I’d use Artorias just for his awesome design.

That is true (for now at least and it doesn’t say much either) but they are equally, if not more idiotic than Grinchfags.
As if for some reason, Nintendo is buying advertising spots on Google for 4 characters they have been holding off from announcing and have been far more protective against leaks since Smash 4.
And as if the DLC would have 2 western characters and a non-MC to a new series, all in the while being extremely close to the 5ch leak.

the rumors are false because no way Nintendo gonna add artorias when they already have an amiibo for solaire.

And the difference between this and Grinch is that nobody was begging for Hayabusa, Doom Slayer, or Artorias. They just make sense based on the facts we know. Certainly people are begging for Banjo and have been begging for him since 2014 at least so it also makes sense that Nintendo worked hard to negotiate for that popular character the same way they did for Cloud.

Multiple people already posted here that some of the characters did work while others didn't. Some managed to get it to work with characters not even included in the leak, like Sora. You are falling for shit with 0 basis yet again. How can you be this retarded?

you know the burden of proof lies on you and your shitty rumoured leaks, right?
we don't have to believe anything you say and you can remain in denial about your shitty rumours, time will prove us right and you'll hide from us behind the anonymous nature of this board, but you can never hide from yourself.

Uh, what? How does that make any sense? Smash characters get their own unique Amiibos regardless of if they have Amiibos from other games so if anything that just lends credence to the fact that it's Artorias.

I mean, that's the same logic people had for Shovel Knight, and he got Assist Trophy'd. I wouldn't count on an Amiibo being a point entirely in his favor.

Them doing it wrong does not disprove anything.

Of course they're going easy this time. They already got massively assblasted once. You'd think they would learn from the mistake and not fall for the same shit twice, but no. They only got more humble.

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>Artorias
First, that's not a protagonist and second, Sakurai is autistic when it comes to using the first protagonists. If anything, it would be the Slayer of Demons.

>T-they're doing it wrong!
Christ. You know what? Keep eating this shit. it'll be thousands of time more satisfying seeing you all eat shit when it gets deconfirmed

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>no argument
Nice.

>No brain
nice

>Erdrick
>Steve
>Dovahkiin
>Monster Hunter
Here's your DLC, "bro".

>Trick able to find these characters on Google also works for Sora, despite being only 5 DLC
>Trick isn’t even consistent with many people even with the right cookies and having a VPN
>The leak is nearly identical to the 5ch leak that was already debunked
>Uses characters that people talk about despite Reggie saying these characters will be unexpected (and most leaks that were true having characters no one cared about)
>The only character that fits the Brave code name is Banjo, and solely because of the B, which is a huge stretch
>Implying Nintendo would just buy ad space on Google right now for characters they haven’t announced yet and won’t announce til at least E3 (and that’s only 1, not including the other 3)
I’m hoping we get a Bravely Default character so all these leakfags and theoryfags from everywhere get BTFO.

>Sakurai is autistic when it comes to using the first protagonists
>Joker instead of Pierced-kun
>Cloud instead of Warrior of Light

t. Leaker dick rider

As long as it's not Tiz I would be okay with that. If you think Fire Emblem characters are boring, wait until you meet Tiz.

He spins

It's no use talking to them. Their arguments are literally "lalala I can't hear you" tier. You have to be a special kind of retard to believe these things anyway.

Okay I'll bite, who leaked what this time, on which basis?

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Can't wait for this "leak" to BTFO just like the grinch leak :')

He was forced with Cloud and he only wanted Joker because of his bias for Persona 5. Souls is different though, he has no connection to any particular entry. Demon's Souls is the most logical, since it started the series (even though they are technically seperate).

Solaire and Chosen Undead both have a rather generic moveset that would be more suited to a Mii Swordfighter costume, whereas Artorias would be pretty unique and makes more sense.

He was not forced for Cloud.

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>Ads link to nintendo.nl/SmashBros/FighterPass
>The page doesn't exist
explain this

Shulk and Snake
none of the DLC chars minus Artorias/Doomguy particularly interest me and I doubt either will make me want to drop my mains from my 2 fav series :p

Demon's Souls is not even owned by Bandai Namco. It is for all intents and purposes a different series. It would be a Dark Souls character because Bamco developed this game and this character is meant to be Bamco's new rep.

Sakurai tends to use the most recognizable protagonists. So Cloud for Final Fantasy. Marth for Fire Emblem.

It doesn't matter for the Fighters Pass since Nintendo is picking and Sakurai said he only gets to deny characters. And why would Nintendo pick Artorias?

So he was a knight that tried to save people from a curse. That ended terribly for him, since he lost his mind and became corrupted. He normally used a greatsword and a shield, but since by the time you fight his corrupted body his arm is broken and he's only able to use his sword. He's quite relentless, attacking with big swings and a really devistating air attack. I think he uses some AOE curse moves and has some curse puddles, but it's been a while since I last played the DLC.

Hard to have less personality than a comatose/dead puppet.

POST YOUR FACE WHEN BANJO, STEVE, ERDRICK, RYU, DOOM SLAYER, SORA, AND ANY DARK SOULS CHARACTER NEVER EVER GET IN

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You know it to be true. Can't wait till you start complaining when Chadrick, Steve and based Dovahkiin are revealed.

based roster

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None of those will ever be in Smash.

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>captain toad
>dixie
>wah
>cereal mascot on the ps1
>cereal mascot collectathon
>limbless cereal mascot
>fucking TRACER

They will, at least Chadrick will be.

Why is Shovel Knight included in the Kirby category?

Daily reminder that Tracer is in and there's nothing you can do about it. Even though Overwatch is dead, it was one of the biggest games in 2016 and 2017, same applies for Persona 5. She'll make Nintendo millions. But feel free to continue your denial. You'll see once Erdrick and Tracer are revealed this E3.

Sounds pretty cool, actually. Is he central to Dark Souls as a whole or is he more a one off? From a few videos I found he seems super fast and animated, and a lot of his wild movements look like he'd be a pretty fun character. I honestly don't feel like I would mind if it was real now, even if I know it probably won't.

>all that fucking Sonic
>Lyn
>Chrono
>Black Shadow
>Ninten
Get outta here with this shit, this is embarassing

I’m hoping fir Nightmare from soul calibur to make it in

nope it's based roster

>unironically putting tracer in there
your existence is a joke

>doesn't have Roll
No it's not.

It's not fair! I was brave! All the insiders said so!

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I don't care what newfangled term you want to throw at it, it's also the most retarded thing I've seen all week. I'm sure these two terms are not mutually exclusive.

He is quite prominent. You find his shield and crest in the base game and have to kill his loyal companion, Great Grey Wolf Sif, who guards his grave, in order to obtain the Covenant of Artorias. Depending on how they'd do it, Sif could be part of his moveset. Of course in his original size from the DLC. Though if he only appeared in his final Smash they could get away with having big Sif.

Oh boy, another fake leak. Don't you people ever learn?

But seriously, if the Google leak is true, which one is Brave supposed to be?

Same reason I'm still going to main Ridley and Robin.

so you wanna be tracer?

I guess Artorias?
>braves stats indicate a somewhat heavy character, around Ike's weight that is very floaty and slides around, fitting since Artorias does some pretty crazy aerial moves in Artorias of the Abyss

Artorias

>chosen undead
>generic moveset

are you on crack?

unique mechanic: roll attacks - chosen undead can do a quick neutral attack immediately after a roll, with a unique attack animation. this attack does little damage and knockback but can put pressure on the opponent, especially if a strong weapon like the greatsword or spear tipper is used.

no it's not. it's the based roster

To this I say: stop! It's no fun. It's just boring. It doesn't add anything. Oh well, maybe in the future. But if his lore is anything to go by, then I have to be going with Sif as a placeholder, unless I really, REALLY think her was a good choice. There is an item to be found in a shrine in Ardennes, and if you pick the 'Rising Dragon Sword' when looking on the map, he will appear there. And bingo -- you will find it.

up special - prowling demon - a prowling demon appears and grabs the chosen undead, lifting him upwards into the sky. you can drop out at will. if an enemy hits you out of it the demon will aggro, attacking them with its spear.

neutral special - 2-hand weapon/swap weapon - holding the button will put away your shield and allow you to 2-hand your primary weapon. this will make all of its attacks stronger at the expense of no longer being able to use the shield or its ability. your skill also changes to match the weapon that you are wielding. tapping the button will cycle your primary weapon, tapping it consecutively allows you to very quickly cycle to the desire weapon. primary weapons are shortsword, greatsword, spear, and staff. shortsword is small and weak but with respectable attack speed. greatsword is slower but stronger than the shortsword and with greater reach. spear is even longer than the greatsword and much weaker, however it has a very strong tipper mechanic. staff utilizes a variety of magical attacks, primarily flashsword for neutral and farron dart as the jab attack, with smash attacks being more powerful spells with wind-up and end lag as tradeoff. up smash: soul greatsword (overhead slash with magical blade), side smash: soul arrow (shoots ranged projectile), down smash: hail (projectiles fall to the ground around you).

>Now that we know who all the DLC will be

Im out of the loop, whats happening?

side special - skill - chosen undead will use one of multiple skills, depending on his weapon of choice and whether or not his shield is in use.
shield - shield bash/block - tapping the button bashes the opponent with the shield, gaining superarmor and damage reduction during the animation. the bash does little damage but can knock opponents out of their attack animation, and combos into neutral, allowing it to function as a more hands-on "counterattack" when used effectively. holding down the button brings up his shield, gaining superarmor and damage reduction from the front only, for as long as you hold the button. while using the spear you can attack with the shield up, but with notable wind-up and end lag on the attack.
shortsword - stance - tapping the button does a quick but weak attack that deals a large amount of shield damage. holding down the button does a slower 2-hit combo with decent knockback.
greatsword - stomp - tapping the button does a quick stomp that interrupts and pushes back the opponent. holding down the button follows up with a very slow superarmor attack with very good knockback.
spear - charge - tapping the button does a slow stab with the spear; enemies hit by the tipper are command grabbed and slammed against the ground. holding down the button transitions into a running charge attack that deals multiple ticks of damage and pushes the opponent backwards.
staff - steady chant - tapping the button, after a short wind-up, increases the damage of your next magical smash attack. holding down the button, after a longer wind-up, upgrades your next magical smash attack to a superior dark version of the spell with more range and damage.

down special - lightning spear/lightning stake - tapping the button throws a lightning spear after a delay, which travels a fair distance. holding the button will instead strike the lightning into the ground, instead doing damage directly around the player. same wind-up for both.

Erdrick desu

The fuck would they even use for Dark Soul's music outside of Gwyn? Firelink Shrine Club Remix? Like the rest of the boss music is fucking generic violins and strings with some vocal overlay to make them seem threatening.

>Shield rolls the character
Amazing, you've somehow made me want the chosen undead even less then before.

final smash - chaos storm - gigantic pillars of molten flame erupt around you periodically for several seconds. the pillars leave large pools of lava behind that deal damage to enemies when walked on.

his potential moveset is so fucking in-depth it doesn't even fit in 2 Yea Forums posts.

pastebin.com/Sdzh73x5

I'd be bothered since at least 5/7 of those are good

some guy bought fake ads on Google to a Nintendo page that doesn't exist and now people are overreacting

There are tracks like Ornstein & Smough, and there's nothing wrong with something slower and moody. I love having Cavern on Shadow Moses.

I have to agree with this, not only is there already a MH boss in the game but they have a wealth of shit to use for new content and spirits

I'd expect a Palico before an actual Hunter though

Oh, Sif's the giant wolf with a sword in his mouth, right? Shit, I think I'm sold on this, just from this little bit alone. He's got relavence in his own game, clearly got the potential for a fun moveset, and he stands out quite a bit from the rest of the roster.

I should really get around to trying Dark Souls sometime.

Yeah Ornstein and Smough is also pretty good with the trumpets, same for the Asylum Demon/Taurus demon. It's just that it all sounds quite samy. These tracks are cool in a vacuum because when you fight these bosses you don't realize how exhausting it must be to listen to the entire soundtrack back to back. But in a game like Smash you'd want to have music variety. Dark Souls doesn't really provide that.

check it, faggot:

bonfire medley (remix)
taurus demon youtube.com/watch?v=DzWFWCH_lTE
bell gargoyles youtube.com/watch?v=bc0vmbmdexw
gaping dragon youtube.com/watch?v=xr54gJZk_nM
ornstein & smough youtube.com/watch?v=DgpYfCnLhAo
old dragonslayer youtube.com/watch?v=NFrcmJQencc
iron golem youtube.com/watch?v=5jqdwkt3gDU
ruin sentinel/smelter demon youtube.com/watch?v=mz1_3az6Hgs
executioner chariot youtube.com/watch?v=m3CTxI_zbeU
skeleton lords youtube.com/watch?v=LZBlhNOWlTY
slave knight gael youtube.com/watch?v=fqQ1Xum8uNI
lord of cinder/soul of cinder (remix) youtube.com/watch?v=Z9dNrmGD7mU

the only interesting one is Doom Guy. Everyone else would be boring character and gameplay wise

There's only one Fire Emblem character I want in Smash.

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sif as a boss has virtually nothing to do with artorias, and literally every aspect of their interactions is tied to item descriptions

You still haven't explained why Shovel Knight is a Kirby character.

>calls fucking ROBIN a Marth
>praises fucking Mii Swordfighter who is more Marth than Robin and Corrin are

I'm already Tracer.

this is to grimark honestly

I would actually argue against that because of how the MH content is already organized, that being in the "Other" category along with all of the other assorted Nintendo games. Anything they add to it would likely also be shoved into that category.

Could they change that? Possibly, but it would be a pretty big thing to suddenly change for a franchise that isn't in its own distinct category, and yet still already exists in Smash. It'd be like if they suddenly gave Miitopia a rep, or something like that, despite not being in its own category.

Yeah. Currently playing Dark Souls for the first time, before this entire Google fiasco that I mostly don't want to get too involved in since it's pretty likely this is all a giagantic troll.

why not just play marvel vs capcom if you want so many capcom characters in

Wtf why you male such a bullshit predictions. Like cmon, even if Doomguy and artotias are known, they don't have much source material to make fully functional smash character without artificially removing or adding stuff (for example Doomguy without excessive gore will be souless).

I show you better prediction(except Dan is controversial but can be Spyro instead of him)

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Actually Artorias would be a manga swordsman

>He's got relavence in his own game
He's not even the most iconic boss in his own game. He's irrelevant as fuck in the actual games and is only referenced in certain descriptions, like pretty much all Dark Souls lore.
>clearly got the potential for a fun moveset
He'd be Ike. Swinging a big ass sword with one arm is the only thing he does in the game.
>and he stands out quite a bit from the rest of the roster.
This is true. The Dark Souls aesthetic is great. Go play the games and just ignore this leak.

We all know Fallout 76 Guy will be the next DLC character. And his reveal trailer goes like this:

Almost heaven, West Virginia
Blue Ridge Mountains, Shenandoah River
Life is old there, older than the trees
Younger than the mountains, blowing like a breeze
Country roads, take me home
To the place I belong
West Virginia, mountain mama
Take me home, country roads
All my memories gather round her
Miner's lady, stranger to blue water
Dark and dusty, painted on the sky
Misty taste of moonshine, teardrops in my eye
Country roads, take me home
To the place I belong
West Virginia, mountain mama
Take me home, country roads
I hear her voice, in the morning hour she calls me
The radio reminds me of my home far away
And driving down the road I get a feeling
That I should have been home yesterday, yesterday
Country roads, take me home
To the place I belong
West Virginia, mountain mama
Take me home, country roads
Country roads, take me home
To the place I belong
West Virginia, mountain mama
Take me home, country roads
Take me home, down country roads
Take me home, down country roads

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>Geralt
>opening the door for Book Characters
user, you REALLY don't want to do that to Smash

>they don't have much source material to make fully functional smash character without artificially removing or adding stuff
>Posts Crash and Sir Daniel

>people seriously thinking Banjo, Doomguy, Ryu, and a Dark Souls character will be the remaining four
You guys are far, far too optimistic.

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Hopefully they get the ACE guy to do another ska remix like the one he did of Gangplank Galleon.

they use the same sword and share moves between each other, and the intro changes if you do the DLC first which technically is part of the fight

This. But there's a reason to him being irrelevant, to make your own interpretation of what exactly happened. Souls and Smash are best kept seperate.

>Nintendo is going to pick bad characters because they don't want them to sell
Based retard

>GWYN gets stoked!

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That's a good choice, but I'm going to raise you one that I personally think might be better

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>you can't criticize the echoes because even though they're not unique, they don't take up dev time

>you can't criticize the non clones because even though they take up dev time, they're not clones

Just admit you think I'm not allowed to criticize anything FE related.

Plus Geralt's already in Soul Calibur, they're not going to put him in two fighting games. Which is why I don't think 2B has a chance either. Just enjoy them in Soul Calibur you jerks.

meant for

>STILL can be parried in the remaster
No fucking excuses. It's like Fromsoft have fun sabotaging themselves after they released Bloodborne.

mixed up his position with ddd
bask at based roster

If this really ends up being this. I will be happy beyond belief. All of these feel like good choices. Hope we get classic Ryu outfit too, same with Doom Slayer. Doom Slayer will be my main.

Who do you think will be revealed at E3? I would bet we get two reveals, one is probably further along then the other, but they could at least have a non gameplay trailer for both of them. I am betting either Banjo and Doom Slayer or Artorias and Doom Slayer

oh man I'm sorry you're right that is so much moveset potential right fucking there and portrays the fucking gameplay of the entire 6 game long series so well.

Dark souls is an rpg, there is no correct weapon choice for him.

>>Mii Swordfighter

Try actually looking at his customs sometime.

>>Three fucking links with the same moveset

Man, if only the image mentioned in the first fucking sentence that they were homogenous. (That's still LESS clones than FE)

>>Stretching to count ganondorf in it as if his brawler movest suddenly becomes sword focused because of a different smash

The point still stands whether or not we include Ganon.

You're getting Steve along with the announcement of Boss Battles mode, featuring the return of Porky's boss fight, and the introduction of Ender Dragon and Zoma, who leads straight into the reveal of Erdrick.
Banjo, Master Chief, and Slime get Mii outfits.

> cannot hide from yourself
As if these retards have any self-reflection or self awareness, they will just go on to believe the next shitty leak like nothing happened

That's just 'cause there's less 'spurgery in general. Also, very few people HERE believe it by comparison.So that helps.

Who the fuck is Porky

and we already have enough Earthbound in SSB

Okay but what does the code name have to do with Artorias? Pakku and Jack at least make sense. Let's assume they're being at least a bit subtle about it like they were with Jack, how is Brave a subtle reference to Artorias?

since when was that the argument? you only said they didn't share similarities or connections when they do

Okay, who the fuck is Zoma?

Yo, what other characters? This theory would make more sense with Sora over fucking Autorious

>Argument is about moveset functions
>Get upset that people point out the characters are unique and fill different functions
why

Artorias was the only one doing literally anything to try and save Oolacile. By Souls standards, he's probably one of the bravest characters out there.

>Ninja Gaiden has been MIA for a decade
It was one of the first nes games on the switch online.

Steve is never getting in

>"We already have enough Earthbound"
>from the guy who doesn't know who Earthbound's main villain is, meaning he has never played Earthbound, meaning he doesn't know why people like Earthbound so much

Crash has more moves than just jump and spin. He has pretty much moves in all his games (his games are not only psx ones).

Sir Daniel has fuckton of melle and ranged weapons, including sword, hammer, axe, club, his own detached arm, pistol, bow, crossbow, lightning.

he's not wrong
there's no point in adding a character from a dead series

Final Boss of DQIII you fucking zoomer.

>Knight Artorias and not the Chosen Undead
Or Solare
That's all that's needed to disprove this shitshow.

Play the game and you'll change your mind.

Adding third parties was the nail in the coffin for Smash. Instead of people actually playing the games it's all just shitflinging and dicussing which epic company mascot is getting in over another. Might aswell add Goku and Mickey, probably wouldn't change anything about discussion of this mess of a series.

First off why the fuck do you think Sir Daniel should be in when he's a first party Sony character. Any character who was in PSABR is never going to be in Smash.

I did. I even played Mother 3 before that tomato guy released the translation using a translation guide.

Don't give a fuck about Porky. Mother is a series that died peacefully and gracefully. Its legacy in Smash is already enough to honor it.

>ninja Gaiden MIA
>duck hunt
>Pac-Man (videogame not cartoon)
>Captain Falcon
List goes on. Ryu is an old guy and Nintendo likes old guys

Somehow, I have high doubts about this rumor.
Anyone ever stop to wonder why most of these guys are some of the highest priority for fake leakers to try and pass off or are otherwise rallied behind on social media?

Just because it's well liked doesn't mean 2 playable characters(and several more appearing in those characters' moves), a Brawl boss, an assist trophy, and four stages isn't good enough representation for three total games, one of which never even came out in America.

This is from someone who actually likes the Mother series.

>Instead of people actually playing the games
we've had a ton of Smash threads the past month talking about the new content added with Joker, the hell are you talking about?

Porky would be incompatible with the lore of super smash brothers ultimate as he is stuck in the absolute safe capsule.

>we already have enough Earthbound
>2
jump off

>Xbox
Absolute brainlet. Razor's Edge started as WiiU exclusive

Nudoom is a reboot which means we haven't actually seen the doom slayers face. It could be a female for all we know

Even then, those few of you smellies that actually want to talk about the games are overshadowed by "lol EPIC dab Erdrick! Steve from MINECRAP! HAHAHAHA BANJO BANJO BANJO lol wouldn't it be funny if we draw X character being mating pressed". Not like that matters since the online is attrocious.

Plus KT already has some stuff in Smash so the licensing issues are out of the way, and Nintendo even put Ninja Gaiden on their online service so they like Hayabusa.

Optimally they would use Mother 2 Porky since he actually fights outside of his capsule.

Anyone else just plain kinda hoping they reveal the entire DLC cast instead of continuing to trickle down info for months?

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You’re argument reveals you are a retard. They removed gore from joker, there are several characters on the roster that they had to add things to help them out (and no one cares), several characters you posted fall under that too, and, lastly, you’re just retarded

>Plus KT already has some stuff in Smash
Fatal Frame, right? Does Nintendo need KT's permission to use that?

Hopefully they just cancel the DLCs. Joker is already cancer with his free Limit comback mechanic. They are gonna absolutely ruin the balance of the game.

hopefully, or at least one character at E3 and one more at the VGAs

>Google leak
I'm outta the loop, what's this new leak?

I would think so, since KT's name is in the credits.

>wouldn't it be funny if we draw X character being mating pressed
D-do people actually do this?

Shit, really? Never noticed it.

Kinda disappointed that we didn't get any Hyrule Warriors spirits. Unless we did and I missed them.

5 characters give A link to DLC when you search them on EU google, using specific words
>Joker
>Artorious
>Ryu Hyabusa
>Banjo
>Doomguy

If you google [Banjo Kazooie], [Ryu Hayabusa], [Artorias], [Doom Slayer] + Smash Bros Ultimate you can get an ad for DLC but you must do very specific things to get these ads. People are praising it as the next ESRB leak because it has characters they like, others are calling it the grinch leak because it has characters they don't like.

>Banjo

youtube.com/watch?v=YP6fL6MAHZw
>Rare dev says if you want a new banjo "go play hat in time" @34:05

gamesradar.com/heres-what-you-need-to-know-from-nintendos-investor-qanda-new-online-switch-game-and-more/
>Nintendo wants to appeal to new demographics for smash

nintendoeverything.com/reggie-says-joker-in-smash-bros-ultimate-is-emblematic-of-dlc-approach-quiet-on-persona-5-for-switch/
>Reggie says joker is "emblematic" of the DLC characters

twitter.com/franklez/status/1077027566450466818
>Halo Dev deconfirms master chief, then likens Banjo to Blinx when asked if Banjo will be in

okaycool.ca/2018/09/20/banjo-kazooie-new-studio-will-have-to-make-sequel-for-fans/
>Grant kirkhope saying RARE isnt interested in banjo

ign.com/articles/2017/09/22/rare-studio-head-returning-to-old-franchises-would-be-the-worst-thing-for-rare-to-do
>Craig Duncan, still the reigning head of Rare says he doesn't want to go back to Banjo.

gamespot.com/articles/new-goldeneye-and-banjo-on-xbox-one-rare-says-they-aren-t-necessarily-what-you-want/1100-6418357/
>"But I'm not sure it's really what they want," continues Craig Duncan.

twitter.com/PushDustIn/status/1124319493428109312
>Rare Spirits mean nothing due to the fact there were other cut spirits

sourcegaming.info/2018/02/21/the-potential-of-simple-actions-sakurais-famitsu-column-vol-535/
>Sakurai gushes about Minecraft, written during Smash Ultimate's development (he did the same for Persona 5)

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hitler

Yeah but that Ryu Hayabusa design predates Razor's Edge by almost 10 years. I referred to it as the "xbox" design because it was first seen in Ninja Gaiden 2004. And much like Simon doesn't use his modern redesign, I can't imagine the default Ryu would be the Xbox look (however I don't see it NOT being an alternate outfit)

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>b-but Rare
Guess who’s making the new battletoads retard

So is this what Nintenjokes are reduced to when starved for childrens games on their mediocre tablet? Yikes.

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>Duck Hunt is a joke character
>Pac-Man is thanks to Sakurai putting his foot down on that retarded cartoon redesign, not really Nintendo's decision
>Captain Falcon's series was thriving when included in Smash
bad arguments desu
I'm pretty sure you can find better arguments on Nintendo liking old guys.

As long as it isn't Steve

The fuck? There's a NEW Battletoads?

Yep. Rare ain’t making it, too.

And do tell user, who is going to make the new Banjo?

We're gonna need
16 times the detail

And let's be honest, if they did get a new Mother rep it should obviously be Kumatora.

Actually I wish they would do a Kumatora costume for Mii Brawler, that would tide me over.

>duck hunt is a joke character
>in-fucking-plying that Duck Hunt didn't get in because it's one of the most well known and beloved NES games ever released, not to mention it was owned by almost everyone because of that SMB/Duck Hunt cartridge that was ubiquitous

We're gonna need
Distant weather systems

my negro

Here's the DLC. $25 please

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BASED
Even though Yea Forums hates to admit it, these are all characters from some of the most influencial games made in the 2000s.

>wants to frisk a child
What did Toby Fox mean by this?

Its shit

Sakurai already came out and said he added Duck Hunt for the same reason he's added Piranha Plant. 'Joke character' isn't the proper term for it. but Duck Hunt was added because he was non-conventional. The fact that Duck Hunt has a big history behind it is simply a coincidence.

>undertale and minecraft
Are you fresh out the womb?

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Based, based is the word you're looking for.

Terry is more likely than Kyo, but as far as an SNK rep goes, I'm imagining they'll pull a wildcard and add Nakoruru

user. This is nu/v/, haven’t you noticed?

Reminder that Minecraft came out 20 years ago. You're getting old, gramps.

>ryu hayabusa?

zelda metroid ninja gaiden

>Includes both recent and older characters
>Z-Zoomer!

Retard. Those characters are shit and will never be in Smash.

I have, but if I stop even acting surprised, I'd have accepted this fate.

swap Kyo with Marco and Frisk with CU and it's alright

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We're gonna need
4 times the size of Fallout 4

>No 2B[ooty] or A[ss]2

This cannot continue

10.

>and older characters
If he had included an older character, he would have called him "Doomguy." I assume Kyo was an attempt to throw people off his scent.

Is A2 known for having a large posterior? I never see a single person talk about her.

2B was literally deconfirmed. Also if she made it in they'd censor the shit out of her. Is that what you want? A black void?

There's nothing wrong with calling a character by his official name. Also, I bet you're too young to remember when Minecraft and Undertale were popular on Yea Forums.

>too young to remember when Minecraft and Undertale were popular on Yea Forums.
How could this possibly be possible, the person would have to be a maximum of 4 years old.

Artorias has a broken arm, he wouldn't be able to edge grab or use any of the items. Every third party rep has been the lead character without exception. Chosen Undead, while a player avatar, still has a 'default' look that is used for merchandising.

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You'd lose that bet. I was around here when Minecraft was filled with nothing but a bunch of girls dressed in frog themed clothing.

but Joker is the protag of Persona 5 and Cloud is the protag of FFVII?

Note that he said popular on Yea Forums. There are plenty of newfags on here, other boards call this place Yea Forumseddit for a reason.

Simon's modern redesign isn't the current modern anymore. Before Ultimate, Ayami Kojima did a new Simon design for the mobile game, this time way more faithful to his NES style. And remember that even Mega Man had a more modern animated style in 8 and Capcom vs games but Sakurai said that giving him NES proportions was always the goal.
Anyway, my point is we can trust Sakurai's team to give Ryu's a faithful Smash design wichever he default he chooses and it's very possible he can have 2 costumes since Cloud, Joker, Bayonetta and others can.

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Uh, he would grab it with the other arm, obviously? Did you even think this through?

>If he had included an older character, he would have called him "Doomguy."
That isn't the official name of nuDoom's protag though. Doomguy would be the name of the alternate costume.

>other boards call this place Yea Forumseddit for a reason
no they don't

>image points out that the sword characters are diverse outside of the FE characters
>people say shit like BUT THE LINKS as if I didn't say they were the exception. and if I didn't include them people would accuse me of cherrypicking

You'd think FE fans would know how to read seeing as 99% of playing a FE game is just reading words.

Actually the alternate costume would probably be called The Marine.

It's almost like nu doom's protag... is a new character... whoa

I'm hoping that artorias is replaced with chosen undead and that google was just being retarded (this is if the leak is even right at all)

His grab and ledge should be his sword impaling shit. As for items idk.

A2 has an ass slightly bigger than 2B. 2B was in ads and the first girl, so shes the one everyone knows

Source? 2B and A2 literally have moveset perfectly built for smash bros. They even have pods for UP B recovery. The mash potato cannot disappoint like this

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no he isn't

it's canonically doomguy from the first game, why is that so hard to accept for some people.
Also doomslayer is a badass name, and nudoom kicks ass, you don't have to hate things just cause they are new

This plus Chosen Undead would be able to have way more moveset variety in general, not to mention the alt costumes could be other armor sets which would better represent the NPCs of the Souls games and the trilogy as a whole. Artorias is pretty limited

Would also solve the "too many math clones" problem by having a sword/gun/kick hybrid

>shit i already knew
Maybe my wording was off, but yeah that is kinda obvious to some. Normies and Smashfags wouldn't know that though.

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When were Doomguy and Doom Slayer confirmed to be the same person? I thought that Doomguy was just a marine who was a bad enough dude to stand up to hell, and Doom Slayer was supposed to be the guy from an alternate dimension that got nommed by hell

Show me ONE Japanese Smash wishlist poll that has Steve in it. I'll wait.

hitler

FE games have had less and less words as they went on, they went from
>Sire... You must live. Drink deeply now of these injustices; sip on these slights they serve. Remember them! One day you will lead us back here to avenge the fallen and reclaim Altea in their names!
to
>wE'vE gOt TrOuBlE!

Well, canonically in Dark Souls, Artorias actually IS the Chosen Undead, so that may be why this happened.

>pastebin.com/Sdzh73x5
Congratulations, you've managed to completely turn me off the idea of CU in Smash with your moveset.

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Seeing as every leak since the Grinch has been fake, can we all agree that these are the only third parties that should have ever been included in Smash?
> 1. Solid Snake (Metal Gear Solid)
> 2. Alucard (Castlevania: SOTN)
> 3. Cloud Strife (Final Fantasy VII)
> 4. Terra Branford (Final Fantasy VI)
> 5. Crono (Chrono Trigger)
> 6. Pac-Man (Pac-Man)
> 7. Sonic (Sonic The Hedgehog)
> 8. Ryu (Street Fighter)
> 9. Chun-Li (Street Fighter)
> 10. Mega Man (Mega Man)
> 11. Leon S. Kennedy (Resident Evil)
> 12. Quote/Curly (Cave Story)

Heh, I remember I used to have a friend who played Minecraft and I changed his skin to Lain in a bear suit, and everyone who watched his stream thought it was supposed to be Pedobear. This was back when they let you link streams on Yea Forums. Those were the good old days.

BANJO! WHAT HOPE DO YOU HAVE?!

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why is this in a listed format

It needs to be said, Papa Genos himself doesnt believe Google Theory, it's just because his discord found it out that he feels obligated to report on it and give arguments for both sides.

Otherwise he is on the side that believes Erdrick is still getting in

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>Seeing as every leak since the Grinch has been fake,
The leak that said Incineroar and Ken would be the last two was correct.

Just saying.

nintendo is out of mascots what more do you want

Touhou is more iconic than Cave Story

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that was before the Grinch leak desu

Which is why Reimu is in Blade Strangers and not Curly.

Oh wait.

That's good then, I was actually doubtful of Google Theory because Papa Genos spread it and he was a hardcore Grincher.

Now that I know this I'm all in on Google Theory.

I actually like this pick for an SNK rep. She would have a more interesting playstyle because of the bird, which should be able to be thrown and called back as a projectile to set up combos and "crossups" also she can recover with her dash ability.
It makes sense because she is a mascot to SNK and the fact that she was in KOF XIV and there is a new SamSho coming out this year has brought her back to the forefront of SNK games. Damn it now I'm going to be disappointed when she's not it

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HOLY SHIT

There was appearantly an interview with the director of Nier Automata, where he said some shit that Nier characters weren't invited in the pass. Though it sources back to that PapaGenos fag, so I wouldn't trust it.

>can we all agree
Nope, that's your point of view. Anyone new is more worthy than more characters for series already there.

Stay delusional, Banjoke.

reminder that during the black outs, the 4 characters not only are suddenly unsearchable in the original requirements but are also unsearchable in the other searching style that gives you literally anyone to show the ad

shhhhhh

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and?

>When were Doomguy and Doom Slayer confirmed to be the same person?
In the character logs id Software wrote for Quake Champions.

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2 decades worth of hope, Blockhead. You've barely got a year to your name.

2 Zeldas
2 Samuses
2 Pits

Basically meaning that even if you put "DLC" at the end of the search it doesn't show the ad, for example: Ryu Hayabusa Smash Bros Ultimate DLC Pack doesn't show the ad, while searching Eridrick Smash Bros DLC Pack does show the ad.

What he's basically saying is this. Someone fucked up on Damage control.

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>Doomguy's trailer shows a tiny Daisy with a bunny hood getting killed by a red Ridley

That's odd, because the way Doom Slayer's home dimension is described in doom 4, it definitely doesn't sound like earth.

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sounds like the leak has been blown the fuck then desu

>That isn't the official name of nuDoom's protag though.
Doomguy has never been the official name of any Doom protagonist. That was always a fan thing, and was used in throwaway spinoffs like that Tony Hawk game. Any alternate name would be something like "DOOM Marine".

to the point where have to put negative effects on each of the 4 characters name so they won't show the ad while they leave everyone else alone?

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Hayabusa is my guy. I was happy to see Richter in, but I'd be stoked with Ryu.

yeah you're in
the trash

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>because the way Doom Slayer's home dimension is described in doom 4
Why does everyone confuse Doomguy for the Betrayer. They're different people.

pretty much proves it fake desu

Nah. Robin is just Ness that got turned into an anime swordsman. I'd rather Robin be removed, even if they are unique.

>In the first age, in the first battle, when the shadows first lengthened, one stood. Burned by the embers of Armageddon, his soul blistered by the fires of Hell and tainted beyond ascension, he chose the path of perpetual torment. In his ravenous hatred he found no peace; and with boiling blood he scoured the Umbral Plains seeking vengeance against the dark lords who had wronged him. He wore the crown of the Night Sentinels, and those that tasted the bite of his sword named him... the Doom Slayer
Literally in game

Eh, I see it more as shitty damage control that makes the situation even more suspicious but whatever I guess.

too superficial to be damage control when the logical thing would be to take down the entire ad, especially since Nintendo doesn't use google ads too much

shit, the page this ad links doesn't even exist on Nintendo's website

Highly doubt it would be Artorias, it’s makes more sense to announce Chosen Undead if FromSoft reveals the next spiritual successor to Souls at E3

Someone is screenshotting all of these posts so we can make fun of these retards during the next character announcement, right?

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does it? cus when I was doing the theory myself I was linked to something like this. nintendo.de/Spiele/Nintendo-Switch/Super-Smash-Bros-Ultimate-1395713.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjYmbmref4gIVg-J3Ch0U2gtJEAAYASAAEgKoJvD_BwE#Fighters_Pass

I mean what you posted pretty much confirms that they're not the same person. Doomguy has spent eons fighting against demons in Hell as a reference to when he decided to stay in Hell in Doom 64's ending. The Betrayer was a priest from another dimension whose son died in battle and made a bargain with the demons.

At the very least, that character log from Quake Champions confirms that they are intended to be considered different people, since it directly references Doomguy's motivation for his hatred of demons from the end of Doom 1.

Melee ALWAYS wins!

Whoa wait where's Adeleine

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What's good about the Google leak is that the Grinch leak made everyone doubtful of it despite all the compelling evidence in its favor.

So when the Google leak turns out to be real people are going to be completely blindsided because the Grinch leak made them believe it's fake. And the Google Believers will be rewarded for their loyalty.

Steve was leak bait and negotiations for Edrick fell apart.

>No argument
>Resorts to insults and smuggery.
Hey Stevefag! How's the discord group going?

It was Nintendo. Not some rando. Leak still lives

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His title was changed after he achieved new heights and powers. same guy, upgraded name.

what was the exact leak? Artorias as a dark souls rep instead of chosen undead is a bit weird, but I'd honestly be very happy with this

And stay obsessed, Blockhead. It's not just Banjobros that hate you now.

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Anything new happen yet or what

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He's in.

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Take my energy Banjofriends

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wtf would artorias' moveset even be?

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Or, think of this: Artorias gets his own game announced at E3. Then, at the end of the trailer, the Smash logo appears...

Doom guy is a literal who in Japan and did not get votes during the ballot yet everyone on Yea Forums seems confident he's in.

Banjo also seems to be in every fake leak now.

the ad links to a real page about the fighters pass. all possible fakery has been ruled out. its either real or a fluke with google itself.

>yet everyone on Yea Forums seems confident he's in.
Because Bethesda was confirmed to have negotiated a Smash rep with Nintendo and he's the only logical answer.

Fight him in Dark Souls to find out.

BANJO.
YOU THERE. BANJO.
BANJO, QUIT ALL THIS ROSTERFAGGING.
DO YOU BELIEVE YOU CAN GET IN SMASH BEFORE I DO?
HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO PREDATE ME
WHEN I AM ALREADY IN?

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Wrong.
But even if you weren't, Jap appeal means jack shit in Smash compared to Western appeal.

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NOOOOOOO HE'S A CEREAL BOX MASCOT WHY THE IS THIS HAPPENING???

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that's what I mean though. Chosen undead has a ton of stuff he could use, but artorias not so much.

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>Every third party rep has been the lead character without exception
What Street Fighter game is Ken the protag of? SF2010 doesn't count.

That's actually exactly why I think a Monster Hunter character is not happening. Because Monster Hunter already has music and a boss in the game and if they were going to do a fighter they would have done it alongside, or perhaps before the boss. Makes no sense to put all that work into designing a boss before a fighter. Furthermore, Monster Hunter music is in the ETC category. Not its own category. So they're kind of locked out from doing anything with it.

He's in.

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Anyone who's in MvC isn't happening in Smash.

OH NONONO

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>Mega Man, Ryu and Ken
Literally no basis for such a claim.

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Think about that statement for a moment.
Think hard.

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>Jap appeal means jack shit in Smash compared to Western appeal
Actual retard

>What Street Fighter game is Ken the protag of? The game he's the protag of doesn't count.

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Just give me Agnes

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Pitch a moveset and I'll consider it.

I respect that they let the fans keep Doomguy rather than try to stepdad their way into the joke, plus Slayer isn't a bad name for the character anyway. I still call him Doomguy though.

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I mean it's his official name in Doom 2016, it would actually be strange if the game insisted on Doomguy despite that.

I agree, I'd rather hear the announcer say 'DOOM SLAYER!' than do a little tongue in cheek 'Doomguy!'

Uh, can you explain the reference?

don't start making memes... that's what jinxes it...

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Prove me wrong. Because I seem to recall Little Mac, Ridley, K. Rool, and the Belmonts getting in despite Japs not wanting them, but nobody that only Japan cares about like Takamaru and Goemon ever getting in. Japan's wanted characters only ever happen if they have Western appeal too and characters with just strong Western appeal have a decent chance. That's just simple business, since the West is most of Sakurai's audience.

What are you talking about, the time I spent making this image 100% paid off for me because now Isaac is playable.

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>MvC
>in any way relevant anymore

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japs love k rool though

As a Doomchad, I'm just watching until I get him or not, don't lump us in with the rest of rosterfags.

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That's fair, japs love SNES and N64 Rare in general

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Is Ryu really so popular a character that he would be the final reveal?

I don't think the image is necessarily the order they'll be revealed in, but yes, he could plausibly be the final one. People fucking love Hayabusa.

the only thing that would disappoint me is that doomguy won't be in but other than that, i'd be glad that this horseshit leak is fake

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Literally every fire emblem character
Ness and Lucas
Joker
Soon Erdrick
Richter
I could go on. Japan have priority because the devs would rather work on characters they know.

Homestuck my man. Homestuck.

Joker, most of the new FE characters and Richter are all popular in the west. So basically, it's just ness and lucas.

You're delusional if you think any of these were picked for they western appeal. I don't think you realize how big FE and Persona are in japan, and Richter was picked because he was more popular than Simon in japan.

In what universe is Richter popular in the west? I'm not saying he doesn't have his fans but calling him a popular western character is a huge stretch.

>Literally every fire emblem character
Arguably Marth and Roy, that's true
The other ones were all added when Fire Emblem had a demographic in the West, especially Robin and on.
>Ness and Lucas
EarthBound is a classic, the Mother series is popular among Nintendo fans.
>Joker
Persona has a large Western audience.
>Richter
Everyone here loves SotN.
>I could go on.
No you couldn't or you would.
>Japan have priority
Clearly that isn't the case. The bigger demographic has priority.

the original point was that characters popular in japan will only get in if they also have western appeal and, since melee, that has been the case.

Again, you're delusional if you think any of these characters were picked because of the west. The characters they're familiar with have priority.
Also I love how everyone is dodging Erdrick lmfao. Only western rosterfags think they have priority over Japan.

>Also I love how everyone is dodging Erdrick lmfao.
You mean the guy that's not in the game yet and we've seen no hint that he will be?

You're an idiot for counting him before he's in. That doesn't support your point.

Ness, Lucas, Marth, Roy and Richter weren't popular in the west before getting in Smash
And Joker while Persona 5 is more popular than the others was clearly picked for Japan, otherwise another character would have made it in over him.

It will in a month and we all know this so why wait?

All of them are very popular fighters here though. Obviously they have strong Western appeal.

>I love how everyone is dodging the character that isn't actually in the game

Ness, Lucas, Marth, and Roy, maybe. That's why I said 'since melee' though maybe I should have been more specific.
Like the other user said, SotN was super popular in the west.
I agree about joker, but again, the point is that characters 'picked for Japan' also need to have western appeal to be in. If Joker was being put in solely for Japanese fans, he wouldn't have been announced at a US event.

Neither were Samus or Kirby what's your point

They became popular in the west after they got in Smash, not the way around

Not the worst DLC. I'd prefer Solaire but really any DS1 rep is fine by me.

9S for Smash

Soundtrack includes:
Weight of the World
Birth of a Wish (smash mix)
End of the Unknown
Grandma Destruction
Pascal Village
A Beautiful Song
Emil
Song of the Ancients
Alien manifestation

From Nier:
Kaine
Shadowlord

From drakengard:
Growing wings (smash mix)

Other dlc wishlist:
Marco/tarma/rri/fio
Lu bu
Ib or Madosuki

Whether or not that's true, they clearly appeal to Western demographics in a way most of Jap's picks don't. Which is why Nippon's most wanteds never get in these days unless the West likes them too.

>we we all know this
No we don't
>inb4 but muh brave
Brave doesn't mean shit when Doyle and Jack already prove the names have barely anything to do with the fighter

What exactly could Solaire possibly do that is unique? Don't get me wrong, he's cool, but his moveset is generic swordsman.

Lucas was added in Brawl.
I'm not saying that western appeal is completely irrelevant, but it's clearly not the thing they think of first & being popular on the western internet like SMT/Persona is is enough.
Joker being revealed at the game awards was due to him getting multiple awards last year.

Also Erdrick is in. You'll see.

Don't pretend you don't want him.

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Now that you mention it 9S would be both pretty cool and legitimately hilarious because of how many people would be pissed off at him getting in over 2B. It would be pretty clever though because it would allow Nier Automata to have a character while dodging around the "2B is too fanservicey she'll never get in" problem. The only issue is no sign of a Switch port for Automata yet.

Pretty much the other way around. Out of all the characters that ever got in, none were unpopular in Japan (and they're all from japanese franchises too). While we got characters that weren't popular here when they got in but became popular afterwards. Hell, even Joker had a ton of faggots asking who he was here. Same goes for Erdrick.

>Also Erdrick is in. You'll see.
I've read many posts that say that about other "inevitable" characters like Ashley, Shadow the Hedgehog, and Headband Chestnut With A Stick. What makes your latest prediction so inevitable THIS time?

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Is it time to bring back the best part of the Grinch leak threads?
youtu.be/5hx8WTHcie0

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>vintage seltzer
I don't know, looks pretty based to me.

>Out of all the characters that ever got in, none were unpopular in Japan
Little Mac, Ridley, Simon Belmont

If you're gonna compare anyone to Erdrick, at least pick the one that had the same source backing him up: Incineroar.

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He has a lot of potential wih his Hacking and 4th wall breaking abilities (the visual distorter, voice distorter and many more)

Eh, Joker didnt have his game on Switch but he's still in

What character was codenamed "Doyle"?

These were popular in Japan though, just not rosterfagged as much as they are here.

i've had enough of this google leak shit and these fucking coat tailing nostalgia bear niggers who try to lump doombros in with their rosterfaggotry

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Find a flaw

Trailer:
>Reveal trailer is mysterious figure walking down a dark alley
>Trashcans are shuffling while rootbeer lays scattered all over the ground
>Spaghetti music can be heard in the background
>Figure turns around to face the camera
>"I'm gonna make 'em an offer they cannot refuse!"
>Mobster rises up from trashcan with tommygun
>Gex whacks guy into the rootbeer with tail
>GEX TUNES INTO THE FIGHT
Stage details:
>Scream TV
>Stage hazard are zombies and floating ghost heads that breathe fire
Songs:
>youtube.com/watch?v=FuWUczITRwc
>youtube.com/watch?v=IfzoRF1lkKI
>youtube.com/watch?v=4zP60bempd0
>youtube.com/watch?v=FGb5oq3oqV4
>youtube.com/watch?v=Lt2DE08a7LU
>youtube.com/watch?v=3kBrWNuQnD8
>youtube.com/watch?v=JIm0CanRqLk
>youtube.com/watch?v=cpEj8iaiPtk (used for the reveal trailer as well)
>youtube.com/watch?v=-xA0C4wHdpM
>youtube.com/watch?v=Ga9wY3CzEJQ
Little touches that make them unique:
>When very close to an edge, he uses a tongue-lick automatically to get onto the platform
>Alfred spawns in matches rarely (only if Gex is in the match) and can be tail-whacked for humourous "advice" while fighting
Items:
>One is the ice breathe and/or fire breathe
>An item you may pick up is a tiny taxidermy bear from Mystery TV that walks around the stage for 10 seconds and attacks anyone who gets close to it
Assist trophy:
>Alfred
Spirits:
>Rez
>Rex
>Cuz
>Rezling (those little TVs with legs)
>Skeleton Pirate
Special:
>Screen has a reticle and Gex can fire anyone on the map like in Gex 3 with the tommygun/chaingun in Gangster TV and Army TV

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holy fuck

>These were popular in Japan though
You're fucking delusional user. Japan had no idea who Little Mac was and didn't care for him, and they hated Ridley. They were also bewildered that they went with Castlevania rather than Bomberman or Goemon.

I don't remember much, but his fight involved a lot of screaming from him, throwing poison shit, and him generally freaking the fuck out. Throw in Sif and other elements from Dark Souls, and he could be pretty neat. I'm doubtful though, and I'd have an easier time writing a moveset for Solaire.

The thing is even Joker had a game with him in it on a Nintendo system (Q2) and is getting another thanks to Scramble. It's not the MAIN game but it is something. If 9S got in it would be the first case in Smash history of a character being in NO games on a Nintendo system at all before they were in Smash. Not saying it couldn't happen, but would it really happen for 9S first? I dunno.

Little Mac was a retro pick, but yes people there did remember Punch Out. They didn't hate Ridley either, stop believing every tiny bit of misinformations you see shitposters spout.
Castlevania was a surprising pick for everyone. It was picked for legacy, not for popularity.

Did this source also back Joker? If not it's worthless.

That's what Arsene is called in the files

Though he wouldn't be my first pick, I much prefer this kind of thing to the constant rosterfaggotry.

>Not knowing about something is being wrong

Noone got joker except for like one Yea Forums shitpost leak

Again, you're delusional. You should try going to 2ch to see their real reactions rather than the ones you're imagining.

Dude, if you're talking about rosterfags complaining about stuff, it happens all the time.

How can I trust a source that claims to know the DLC if it didn't know the DLC? Let me guess, it didn't guess Piranha Plant either.

would unironically be based
youtu.be/GsazFpzgpfA

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Knowing about some characters isn't the same about knowing everything.
Also yes he did get Plant

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>Also yes he did get Plant
Source

Hm. I see the connection but that's pretty loose. Enough to make the Brave/Erdrick connection dubious, since that's a lot more direct.

>if I label the general reception as a group I made up then the reception doesn't count but my headcanon of the reception does
Autistic and delusional.

Because Brave is in reference to Braveheartless, a P

>Richter was picked because he was more popular than Simon in japan
Source? Richter was picked because half of Simon's moves come from Richter's moveset in SotN so they put him in as a bonus, Japan doesn't give a shit about Castlevania.

Geralt is so fucking normie I can see it happening
Same thing happened in soul calibur 6 and mhw, it was like "hey, it's geralt, remember him?"

ok I can't find it because reddit is a fucking mess but basically he said right before the direct that we might be getting a new Nintendo character and added that it might be fake, implying it seemed too stupid to be true. After the direct he confirmed that it was Plant.

Don't shit on Geralt, his Japanese voice actor is Bane's Japanese voice actor.

It was said by Sakurai after the direct that Richter was picked because he was more popular than Simon (which is only the case in japan)

>after the direct he confirmed that it was plant
wow sounds legit

So he didn't actually say "Piranha Plant is in" or anything along those lines, he only said it after we saw it. But he totally knew, gotta believe me! He's at 0/2 so far.

this is possibly the best possible permutation, just switch doom guy for my girl Ammy and its literally perfect

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>He's at 0/2 so far.
Wait a minute. 0/2... 02. Zero Two. Zero-Two! Kirby 64! Could Vergeben be subtly confiming Adeleine as a DLC fighter?

he's in

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Are people still fucking drinking the Vergeben Koolaid because of this? If he didn't stick his neck out before the direct, then he didn't get it. I don't think he saw a video at all, he literally just guessed there'd be a third character but covered it in "This probably isn't real" so if he was right he could claim to be a prophet and if he was wrong he could be like "Like I said, it wasn't real."

Here found it.
reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/9r0ecn/rsmashbros_smash_ultimate_spoiler_discussion/e8trrcc/

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I also confirmed after the direct that we got piranha plant

Sure, because someone who's been right about everything related to base game will, just like that, start making shit up for no reason. Makes total sense.

Remember when he correctly predicted K. Rool and Richter and Minecraft content? Oh wait he didn't.

Give it up Vergeben, you're a fraud.

>the two characters that everyone else was saying were the only thing he got right
square enix character in base game/first DLC? nope
minecraft content in base game? nope
'new nintendo character'? wow how could he have guessed that a nintendo character would be in this nintendo game

Nice so who's next

When Erdrick will be revealed I'm sure it'll be another one of those "extremely obvious picks everyone was gessing at" huh?

>When
Don't you mean IF? He's not a concrete selection nor would he be a good choice anyway and Sakurai has enough brains to realise this.

No, I did mean when. That is to say, in a bit under a month from now.

I mean... yeah?
Any of the stuff vergeben got right had already been leaked by other sources. You can't just cherrypick some of his stuff and say he's a reliable source. He's got a ton of shit wrong.

Like K. Rool Piranha Plant and Joker?

If you go through what Vergeben has said you'll find out he didn't start saying Erdrick until it became the most common guess. He always vaguely asserted it would be a Square Enix character.

Nice shitpost. I still want Hector.

this. back before release he said it could be fucking geno.

I'll tell you what, I'll post a picture of myself eating dogshit if Erdrick does get in.

No you won't, that's why you're posting that shit on an anonymous board.

No matter what he's right about, you guys will always find an excuse to discredit him. Dunno why you even keep him living in your heads rent-free if he's never right about anything.

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In order to know it's you we're going to need some collateral right now. We need a timestamped picture of your bare foot. Also if possible could you be stepping on something in the picture.

I'll let you know after the direct.

No matter what he's wrong about, you guys will always find an excuse to suck his dick. Dunno why you even keep arguing about him in these threads if he's never wrong about anything.

Well yes that much is obvious from the candy corn horns but I was wondering what the context of the image is supposed to be. Who are the characters and why is the leader carrying a box of something?

>I can't tell you anything, so I'm just going to copy-paste your comment and replace some words with others

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That's spoilers dude

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>wanting any SE character when they wouldn't even give Cloud an old JPG for a Fighter Spirit

None of that matters as long as Sephiroth can be playable.

>deliberately missing the point to 'win' the argument
if vergeben was never wrong, nobody would be denying him as a reliable source. As he consistently does get stuff wrong, though, people with common sense don't believe everything he says. Is that clear enough for you?

This. Cave Story is a Yea Forums meme at this point. If we're getting any indie character playable it's gonna be Reimu

So this is the power of rosterfags...woah...

What the fuck is a Blade Strangers? Touhou have fangames that are more popular that this shit lmao.

>Y-you are playing dumb on me!
You're the only one here who claims everything he says is wrong because you're apparently so omnipotent that you know everything. And I'm here to ask: did you see Groh coming? The Ninja Turtles? Incineroar? Castlevania Requiem? Cadence of Hyrule?

For all I care, he could legitimately leak the rest of the Pass and you're going to asspull a way to say he wasn't right.

kek

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I don't know where you got the idea that I know anything about upcoming shit. I have no idea whether erdrick will be DLC or not.
If vergeben leaked the rest of the DLC pass, I would accept him as a reliable source. But he won't, because he isn't. He doesn't need to be wrong about everything, because him being wrong about anything devalues him as a source.

Hopefully Artorias is a boss and a Souls protag is the character
Artorias uses generic, flippy greatsword moves and splashes Manus semen around when he's not charging his buff
Undead have estus, multiple schools of magic, items and weapons to choose from
and they would have cuter taunts

I don't really care about Homestuck spoilers, you can feel free to tell me in a spoiler tag.

And yet Curly is playable in a fighting game yet Reimu is not.

What about Ceaseless Discharge as a boss? I don't know much about Dark Souls, I just think that Ceaseless Discharge is a great name.

>all west meme characters

Japan would be pissed

Touhou have official fighting games. Also you do realize it's not a matter of popularity right? It's a matter of the game's dev personally liking Cave Story more. You're delusional if you think Cave Story is even close to being as big as Touhou is.

Well Touhou is a porn game so it would never get in Smash but Cave Story might.

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That sounds like it could either be Dante or Artorias even Doom Slayer per chance.

Granted all 3 are probably wrong.

>nintendo not using every excuse they can to shit out more amiibos
bruh

[spoilers]The characters are Vriska and a troll ghost army, they're bringing in the ultimate weapon that's supposed to cause Lord English's demise. posted a Lord English edit of grotesque Steve and a parody of some of Lord English's quotes.

he's just a big fucker who slaps his hands down on the ground while standing in lava
dodge hand, hit fingers
repeat until dead
would probably work well enough as a Smash boss if they could make a background boss

>Forgetting to close the spoiler tag
Fuck

You would have messed it up anyway, the tag is spoiler, not spoilers. Oh well.

>Touhou is a porn game

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Wakey wakey plantfag

>[spoilers]
This should be a bannable offense

This thread is going down the abyss anyway. Good luck digging that one up, haters. It's *never* going to happen.

I believe you forgot me

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Based end of thread

Stop visiting this site. NOW. GTFO.

Lol

That's a pretty good retort then, knowing the context. Hopefully it's accurate to reality.

It's not considering this theory is fake as shit lmao
Also in the epilogues things get complicated, turns out the weapon didn't kill English, well not directly anyway.

>no rayman

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In other words...
Fighter Pass 2 confirmed