How do you want your emulation?

What the matter Rabbi?
Another mossad back door exposed?

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Is this the build thread? Can anyone tell me if this recommended build is actually shit or not?
>pcpartpicker.com/list/HjbjMZ

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Curious that you would make a pro-intel thread right after news came out about yet another massive security flaw in intel chips.
Very curious timing

I've heard that only happens on pre-Ryzen AMD chips though

>AMD
It's shit.

>AMD
It's great.

>pcpartpicker.com/list/HjbjMZ
Pretty good. Maybe get better ram, also you might want to wait a couple of weeks to see how the new Ryzen generation fares.

>AMD
I have no strong feelings one way or the other.

Thank you user, much appreciated.

you could fit a ryzen 2700 in there for barely over 1k total

I have a 2700x and have no problems with emulation. The AMD doesn't emulate well is a meme.

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Solid, but I would get a gpu with 8gb instead of 6gb.

And maybe get a power supply like at 600w

what are you trying to emulate, PS4?
Ryzen 3 here and even without a dedicated GPu the only things i cant emulate at 60fps are BOTW(tried it for the heck of it) and the switch emulator.
Everything else emulates just fine at 60 or 30 when you're forced to lock it cause on console it was 30 and running at 60 breaks stuff and there's no fix.

Works on my machine.

pcpartpicker.com/list/PbRJKB
Thoughts?

>AMD
Logical and without emotion

works fine for me

>980 ti
But why?

The Chad Intel vs the Virgin AMD

If you’re not using an i7 9700k with an RTX 2070 or better you might as well buy a console

7nm

DVI-I support

>980ti
Why though? Get a newer gpu unless that's your old card or you got it for free.

decent, don't expect anything above 1080p

Because you have an old monitor? Dude mate you're gonna be gimping yourself by buying a two generations old card. Get a 1080 at least.

>buys a cpu known to be good to eh on emulation
>complains

Why yes, I remember 5 months ago, each update has been increasing fps of persona 5 by 1 or 2 fps, I'm glad it's playable now and without any shutter if you know the right settings.

it's either AMD or corelets/threadlets Intelaviv CPUs

I have a 2600X, I've been able to play p5 and ar tonelico at 60 fps 4k, I just tried every compiler option until it werks, and it's almost shutterless now. I probably get a frame shutter 1 or 2 times per hour now.

Its not gonna be a big problem user, i mostly play in low resolutions anyways. I'll upgrade to a new gpu once microled monitors arrives

Regardless of which oem you go with you should wait till the next ryzen chips come out. Current rumor is end of this or the next month so it would be stupid to buy anything right now.

Weird. Im pretty sure I can play Zelda BOTW at 60fps 4k on my 1600X

Why do people even buy 2700/2700x to play games? there are no advantages whatsoever.

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>intel cpu
enjoy getting hacked

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wait, just 30 fps, 60 fps doesn't work I think.

But you can just buy a 1080 for the same price and buy one of these:
amazon.com/AmazonBasics-DisplayPort-to-DVI-Adapter/dp/B013PWJKQ4

fucking liar

Because people do other things then just play games on their computers. No one that buys a 2700x just gets it for games.

Thanks user but i bought the 980ti last year already so i cant really waste it

Cemu is perfectly playable on ryzen now (but emulation is not perfect btw), the problem is only with AMD gpus. If you want to emulate just don't get an AMD gpu.

>Security holes don't matter!

OY VEY, ANUDDA SHOAH

>ultrastar

Those drives are ancient garbage, get something else, I bought one on amazon marked as new and it had 20000+ hours on it.

how would you like your security flaws and housefire?

Because they're on a budget, AMD is for people who need to save money.

Hardware warring is for niggers, just use whichever.

AMD is fucking great for media producing, especially if you spend a bit more and get a threadripper.

shut up AMDpoorfag

That'll be 40% performance loss plus tip :)

Ironic since Intel is a Jewish company

more like 5% and gets shit on for half the price on multicore stuff

Mate, I use an i3 8100.

Planning on upgrading to an i5 9400F and 1660 soon.

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that;s the joke user

price? AMD shit is cheap as fuck and pretty passable unless you're going full retard 4K ultra on modern AAA games.
also nice fucking list retard, literally every processor on there meets the fucking 60 FPS requirement anyways.

Intel are literal spyware.

I don't know yet it. I played through resident evil 2 just fine on retroarch.

I have a Ryzen 6 2600, paired with a GTX 1060 6GB. Can play Zelda botw on CEMU at 1080p, 60 fps. I don't know what you're talking about

BASED

So is AMD, unless you use an old Pentium III or some shit from 1990 the chances are you have a backdoor.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Platform_Security_Processor

Of course both of these can be """disabled""".

Stop acting like a dumb third world nigger or Canadian obsessed with console/hardware wars and just fucking play videogames.

ryzen 5*

>or Canadian

Canadians truly are the biggest cancer on Yea Forums besides third worlders.

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>no fun allowed

Do AMD CPU's have an NSA backdoor like Intel's?

with no issues at all? ive got 5 1600 with a 1060 6gb but i didnt try to setup cemu yet. i wanted to try botw tho

you pcu.cks

>tfw bought AMD @ $8
Feels fucking good

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Grow up you stupid subhuman nigger, hardware wars are for teenagers and sperglords.

Every processor has a backdoor unless it's ancient hence the "Pentium 3 or CPU from 1990".

Except maybe extremely obscure third parties and the Chinks, except the chinks have their own backdoor.

Just like how every version of windows since 98 has had a backdoor.

Yo should I buy a rtx 2060 xc ultra for 280$ or wait for ray tracing to be improved and get a 1080 for 300$

>AMD on the front page
Ew

R5 1600 here and it emulates PS2 flawlessly.

Raytracing is a meme, just get a 1080.

No
They have MSS back doors for emperor Xi

You choice for CPU boils down to who do you think is more likely to imprison you.

China or the USA

don't forget to get your wireless card if your motherboard doesn't have it built in or if you already don't have one.

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Works on my machine :)

USA is more likely short term, China is more likely long term.

Century of the yellow bugman soon

It’s not though I also use maya and zbrush in my spare time and could tell you all about ray tracing

I've never heard of those videogames

>venturebeat.com/2019/05/14/intel-zombieload-flaw-forces-os-patches-with-up-to-40-performance-hits/

LMFAO

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AMD processors are poverty tier, but that doesn't mean they're bad at emulation.

I can run CEMU on my i3 8100 and it's a budget processor ($120)

AMD graphic cards on the other hand are nothing but power hungry buggy pieces of shit, only one I ever liked was the 7850.

How do you fuck up this hard, will their bad luck strike be over some day?

Isn't amd implementing TSX instruction to ryzen 3? I heard about it somewhere last month but i don't remember where

It's not "bad luck", it's intentional complete disregard for security for the sake of ill-gotten performance.

>how do you want your emulation?
>30% worse every time i play
>say no more senpai

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>980ti
user you better have a nice crt to use with that or you're an absolute retard

I was thinking of getting an 8350k, how is the 8100?

Meltdown/Spectre fixes lowered even gayman performance by 10%, expect another 10% slash or worse.
Whom in their right mind would ever buy intlel in 2019?

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Why do all youtube emulation channels through around the word working perfectly? When 90% they lying out there ass and games glitchy mess.

It's okayish it's basically a rebranded i5, 4c4t like like the i5 7500.

Only game I've had issue with is Assassins Creed Odyssey but I think that can be attributed to Ubisoft shit being shit.

Still though, wouldn't hurt to get an i5 9400f or i7 8700k, the 8700k is almost twice as expensive, but the 9400 is about $150.

Personally, I'm planning on upgrading to the 9400f.

Could you elaborate a bit on this? i'm finally upgrading my main pc for work and i keep hearing that a ryzen is the best option to go but nobody really goes in specifics.

Nope no major issues, just follow this guide and you'll be all set:

youtu.be/WUwmg2Oqk7Y

Just a heads up, when you start playing the game every action you take will be slow af. With your movements the emulator builds a shader cache and saves it. There are pre built shader caches available online but avoid those, I always had issues with them. Also proof of FPS and processor, pic related

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Ryzen accel with multi-threaded programs while Intel accel at single-threaded programs. Multi-thread like I said are things like video editing software.

Games aren't CPU-intensive to begin with since they are all designed for consoles with ancient underpowered CPUs.
Besides Ryzen not being a swiss cheese piece of shit with performance-destroying security flaws every other month, it also has buttery smooth 1% frames with no stuttering since it has far better parallel processing, Ryzen is so vastly superior to intel nowadays it's not even funny and the only problem is how much the public perception is skewed due to aggressive Intel shilling and how meh the bulldozer processors were.
Another thing is that AMD also ages much better, what was considered the loser during the FX era now matches its competition.
youtu.be/IEwwX7VEhDk

Not him but you can compare processor benchmarks on this website: for example

cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/

What I've found is that AMD Ryzen processors are the best you can get for your money if you want well rounded performance, especially if you want to do things like streaming, video editting, also they consume less power. Comparable Intel processors do have higher single core speed though, which is what emulators mostly utilise and which is why this meme about emulation exists. Regardless, Intel prices are insane right now and AMD make a fine product.

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Neat, i mostly do color grading and rough assembly editing so that sounds great for me then, i also do some small 3D sculpting on the side is that also good for it or is that unrelated? Also this might be a retarded question but is it that much of a difference if i get a Ryzen 5 instead of 7?

Thanks a lot for the info guys.

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cheers thanks dude. ill look into this later tonight

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Thanks a lot for the link user i had been using other sites and for some reason they saying that my older parts were way better than whatever newer parts i had my eye on.

This seems much more reasonable and legit.

So, since this the PC hardware thread, I need a CPU to upgrade from my i3 8300.

What's the best one I can get for 150-250 US burgers that won't require me to upgrade my H310 Motherboard?

saturn emulators could in theory benefit from ryzen too

>Also this might be a retarded question but is it that much of a difference if i get a Ryzen 5 instead of 7?
Check benchmarks and such, 5, 7 and threadripper are basically low-end, mid-end and high-end but you can't really go wrong with any of them, I do 1080p/60fps video editing with a 5 1600.

Most emulators benefit from MOAR COARS. For example PCSX2 flies in software mode on a 16c/32t Xeon.

Raytracing is available all the way back to the 1060 now from a recent driver update. 2080 buyers got bamboozled.

If you still have ddr3 ram maybe look into getting the 8core black 8350. I currently have it and it's a pretty dam good cpu. Problem is am3+ motherboards are hard to come by and will run you over 100 so there's no point in not going ryzen 2600.
Check out there apu cpu too since you can slap a gpu in it and get pretty good performance out of it.

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2080 can't even do 60fps raytracing at 1440p and you're bringing up the 1060?

I'd rather have Ryzen's ton of cores for emulation than Intels 4 cores. Especially on later systems that actually have more cores.

>he fell for the ryzen meme

Is there ever a reason to buy ryzen over intel? Ryzens always have that dumb shit issue with gen 1 and gen 2 ryzens having to be compatible with specific boards but WAIT some boards need an update first so you have to get a gen 1 ryzen just to update the board so it works with gen 2s

it's a fucking headache just get a fucking intel with a compatible socket and call it a damn day

I bought the 2070 because I wanted an upgrade from muh 970, I didn't buy that shit for Raytracing at all.
Not to mention that fact it's competing with the 1080ti when a new 1080ti costs over a grand, and a used 1080ti is the same price as the 2070.
May as well go with the new hotness

Don't listen to this guy, the 8350 is an FX CPU which are notoriously bad for gaming. Not to mention that h310 boards dont even use ddr3 ram.

If you don't want to upgrade your motherboard, than the i5 8400 is a no brainer.

Are you blind you nigger, I just said without upgrading my Motherboard.

Besides, that would be a massive downgrade the 8350 is trash even 8/9th gen Pentiums outperform it.

I'm assuming you m8's havn't heard of this.
amd.com/en/products/cpu/fx-8350

I had this issue with a Dell Optiplex PC, but it was intel, the mainboard was apparently only compatible with 2nd gen intel CPUs, despite the socket supporting 3rd gen. Pain in the ass

>FX is now magically good now because magic and happy feelings can fix the fucked up shared encoder.
Look i don't give a shit which brand sneakers you jerk off over but FX chips are fucking garbage. When your new CPU is worse than a phenom2 you fucked up.

Yes?

The FX series is all shit, I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy, I would rather go back to my piece of shit Athlon.

I thought emulations were adding Vulkan support too so the entire amd gpu for emulation is bad is moot?

CPUs can get better (or worse in Intel's case) with patches, yes.
I'm not saying FX is good mind you, Ryzen is vastly superior.

>newer CPU's need a bios update on previous motherboards to be compatible

This isn't just an "Ryzen issue" only you dumbass.

And how is that confusing at all when you can just buy a newer b450 or x470 board, and avoid potentially having to update an older motherboards bios?

What do you get out of falseflagging?

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NEVER dump any money into the FX platform even if you’re getting it cheap, I bought an fx 8350 + AM3 board that also came with 16GB of RAM for $90 bundled together that I used to build my little brother’s PC, but even I kind of regret it still. The performance is abysmal and it runs hot as fuck, even with an aftermarket cooler.

I don't think he's falseflagging, I think he's just mentally retarded.

A lot of FX owners refuse to cope with the reality that the FX series was 100% trash.

>When a $30 pentium is faster than your 8corelette 150w car crash

I laugh everyday at the retards who bought bulldozer. They should have stuck with the phenom hex core

Is there a site where you can compare whole systems to whatever you want to buy? i'm thinking about getting an upgrade top to bottom but wanna make it worth it.

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Either the i5 8400 or i5 9400F, maybe the 8600k/8700k if it's within your budget.

If you get the 9400 make sure to buy a new cooler and have a GPU, the stock coolers trash and it has no iGPU.

Will a Ryzen 5 2400G be good for me?
>Most of my library is just old games with some still relevant MPs
>I most likely will run emulators up to around 6th gen at native resolution
>I might go up to 1080p, but still stick to 1360x768, because I'm fine with it
>Anything I might buy is still gonna be old games. Maybe newer, if it's comfortable with it.

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amd graphics cards are not the best for emulation
intel cards are an unfunny emulation meme

Yeah, but I'd wait for the newer 3rd gen Ryzen APU's to come out which will be significantly more powerful than the 2nd gen ones.

If you buy the 2400g now you'll regret it.

Planning in assembling for the first time. Which Ryzen should I get? Which Geforce 1080ti should I get?

Shut up nigger

EVGA and MSI are good

Oh no no no, my fellow AMD users. We are being destroyed in this thread. It makes me question if AMD was ever good at all.

you forgot your wojak

I’m a 1080Ti fag, but why would you get one now unless you’re willing to buy one used?

>I might go up to 1080p, but still stick to 1360x768, because I'm fine with it
fucking yikers user, please come to the 21th century

mines been running well
better multithread

You got the emulator playing Persona 5 on a 2600x? Tell me how.

Intel has better per-core performance but is overpriced, Ryzen has better per-dollar performance but can't match the top-end Intel in gaming.

This is all right now though. I know the old "just wait" gag is old, but AMD is doing a Computex show on the 26th of this month and an E3 show on the 10th of June. We're going to be getting details on the new Ryzen processors - more likely at the E3 show, as I suspect Computex will be focused on their new server CPUs. In any case, if you can afford to hold off, the 3000 series of Ryzen CPUs is by all accounts going to be a big deal - more cores, higher clocks, better efficiency, the works. If nothing else, current prices are going to be affected too.

Emulation is for spics

Emulating on a CRT at 240p is patrician though

pcpartpicker.com/list/G3TbbX

Drop the SSD down to 240gb, install only windows and 1-2 games on it.
Drop the 2600x to 2600. Literally no difference when OC'd and you're buying an air cooler anyway.
This lets you eek out a 2070 instead of a 2060 for only $20 more.

Yes but most plebs emulate on a LCD monitor with shitty scaling and think they're hot shit.

>1360x768
Do you still use a flip phone too old man?

I'm assuming you already have the 980Ti. If that's the case, the best upgrade you can give yourself is a better monitor. My old 980Ti can do 1440p/100+fps on most games. It is a much better upgrade than DDR4/CPU.

pcpartpicker.com/list/QTb9kd
This’ll be the first PC I’ve ever built, but I’ve gotten a lot of tips from both here and /g/. I know the PSU is a bit high in wattage, but I do plan to upgrade other parts when I have the dough.
But is the CPU really that shitty for emulation? I mostly play dolphin, vba, and I wanna move one to PS2 emulation in the future.

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Haven't they already confirmed that the new Ryzen CPUs are outperforming the Intel ones even on singlecore performance tests now? I'm due for an upgrade but I'm flat broke, otherwise I think I'd probably swap to an AYYLMAOMD build honestly.

Mine pumps out 120Hz at 1600x1200 easily. Until micro LED is a thing I'll keep using my meme tube because shit just looks so fucking smooth on it.

AMD even offered a free solution for upgrading the bios of older boards.
idk dude some people are just lazy and stupid

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>I wanna move one to PS2 emulation in the future
Not gonna make it with just 6 cores. Shoot for 10 or more if you want to run it in software mode with zero glitches.

I buy amd because I hate Israel.

Don't get a 2060. Get a Vega 56 for only $300.

How much more will 10 cores cost?

What do you guys think of this PC for when I'm traveling.
GPU is still a toss up though. Might go with AMD or get a 1070ti on sale

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Only game I've had issue with was Ace Combat 4 and I use an i5 9400, I think you'd be fine with 6 cores.

I can trade my i5 7500 in for an i7 7700k at half price. Should I do it or wait until I actually need a new CPU, by which time my i5 7500 might have lost this sort of resale value.

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Get another case and buy a 550W 80+ Gold PSU or similar. Also, DO NOT BUY THE RTX 2060. Get the Vega 56. Not only is it cheaper, it performs similarly and has 8GB of VRAM instead of the 2060's 6GB. The 2060 is an obvious case of planned obsolescence, and that shitty amount of VRAM will quickly bring it to its knees once new consoles come out with gigantic unified memory (12GB+).

Try this build instead.
pcpartpicker.com/list/97Vqjy

About $30 more, but you get a Vega 64 which is 12% better than a 2060, and a 1440p/155hz display. That particular display is on sale at the moment as is actually a pretty decent buy for the specs.
camelcamelcamel.com/Dell-27-Inch-LED-Lit-Monitor-S2719DGF/product/B00N2L5CXO

If you absolutely need the space, I recommend getting the 4TB, but for me 2GB is enough and if I'm not planning on an SSD game library, 240GB for OS+1/2 games is enough for me.

The main point is that you don't want to skimp on pure performance which the better monitor and Vega64 are great at.

What case is easier to travel with and still fit these parts?

this little piece of shit CPU is underrated as fuck.

8 physical cores in 2011, this thing carried me for 6 years with no upgrades needed. I abused the fuck out of this little chip with overclocks and it held its own on a 3 monitor setup and I ran a 1440p 144hz monitor and played AAA games on it until this year when I 'upgraded' to a delidded 4770k with a 4.5ghz overclock because I fell for the per-core performance meme. It did give me a huge boost in cpu intensive games but man did multitasking performance suffer. There's still no actual need to go to the AM4 socket unless you're dying to spend $200 on 16gb of ddr4 ram. for the same price I'm running 32gb of ddr3, this delidded ancient cpu and an undervolted vega 64 and pretty much crush any game at 1440p

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Zen 2 is only going to tank any current intel chip prices when it comes out. If you're planning an upgrade no matter if it's Intel or AMD you need to sell now before it hits the market.

pcpartpicker.com/product/bfdxFT/msi-radeon-rx-vega-56-8gb-air-boost-video-card-rx-vega-56-air-boost-8g-oc
^Is this good?

spring for the 64. It's better than a 1080 when you undervolt it

>blower
No. Blowers are hot and loud. Get a double/triple fan rad.

No, that's a blower card. Never get those. I think a Sapphire Pulse dual-fan model is available for $300.

>blowers are hot and loud
they're mostly just loud. If you crank that fan to 80% or more you might go deaf but fuck me if those temps don't back the fuck off real quick. Don't fuck with a blower card.

doesn't matter when my case already has 9 fans

You can achieve the same with triple fan and 40% without sounding like a turbine engine. Blowers are a shit design, only existing because it's cheap to manufacture.

yeah but I'm cheap. I bought a used Vega 64 blower card from ebay for $300 and it kicks the shit out of my R9 fury that I sold for about 2/3 the cost.

>$300 vega 64
>buying a housefire
>buying a bios flashed vega 56
>buying amd at all in the high end when $350 1080 ti's exist

lmao

>tfw bought 2600x
>doesn't go over 4 GHz
I got memed hard

Ehhh, I’d rather have a panel type that wasn’t TN

>$350 1080 ti's exist
On ebay like 200$ below the median price?
Are you trying to buy some jank shit or what?

bulldozer was shit
4350 for the single core speed, didn't overclock for shit, fucking 110 bucks, why did I do that.
bought a i7-2600 machine from a thrift store for 20 bucks that outclassed it with ease and had hyperthreading to boot
ryzen 1700x for $130, 16gigglebits DDR4 3200 for $100, only runs stable at 2933, but whatever, don't buy gskill next time
gtx 1060 go vrrooom
Happy with computer for first time.

Is less than 4 ghz really that big a deal for gaming? I’m fine with a mid range build, I ain’t trying to build the fucking holodeck.

Rather not jump to Intel after the recent drama.

You really don't need that many fans at all.

Bruh, that stopped being a thing post Keller and everything can only go downhill from here for them.

This isn't the monstrosity that was Bulldozer.

...

Maybe for arcade/7th gen emulation, but I've never seen anyone actually confirm if it makes stuff that isn't very optimized in the first place run better with more CPU.

>$350 for a 1080 ti
Yeah no, I don't think anyone's going to sell their best non-RTX card for that cheap when the next best thing is a used 1080 for roughly 300 or a new 2060 which is worse than the 1080 and costs around 350. No way people are letting their 1080 tis go for this cheap.

>$350 1080 ti's exist

show me some of those ludicrous deals bud. You'd have a hard time finding a 1080 that price with anything but the stock cooler

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>mfw still using a 2600k

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based.

All I've been hearing for the past year is WAIT FOR ZEN 2 HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR ZEN 2 ZEN 2 ADAKSJFSD.

Bought my 9700k combo yesterday with Strix Z390-E and have no regrets. Killer processor.

Seems like a solid choice for its price. Are there any better alternatives?

>New security flaws
>IDF work overtime to shitpost on /g/ and generally get told to fuck off
>IDF then comes to Yea Forums because Yea Forums is retarded and will fall for anything

You did good OP, you did good.

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Don't honestly think you'd need a new cpu. I mean what games can't that little thing run at decent framerate?
Are you going 4k/140 hz? I think maybe there's some oc config you can do to get that.

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4c8t, all you need unless you want to play cawascooby or maybe BFV.

No one is falling for OP post retard

>PCSX2 flies in software mode on a 16c/32t Xeon.
What about Threadripper?
I was planning on maybe splurging on one of them because 9 bajillion pcie lanes seems like fun

>Implying i care about security flaws
Im using Stock windows 7 with a Haswell I5.
I could care less about them.

shut the fuck up

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>tfw only a measly dozen shares with around $11 average cost
should've put more money in amd than nvidia

There is a reason why every single Twitch/Youtube streamer use intel cpu's retard. AMD is for Cinebench and poor people only.

Can't run CoD on even 4c8t and he will struggle with shit like BFV and some other MP games. Oh and Jewbisoft games.

>being this retarded
I have 0 RGB in my case and exactly 1 fan not counting the CPU cooler's fan or the PSU. I probably have better temps than your ass.

youtube.com/watch?v=p4et-Gvj-8Q
?

>IDF work overtime to shitpost on /g/ and generally get told to fuck off
You think this is new? /g/ has been shilling AMD and Intel buyers have been reeee'd at for years.

There was an engineering sample preview of the Ryzen 3000 line showing eight cores vs eight cores with Ryzen winning, but right now the current 2000 series still can't quite reach Intel because of the clock speed difference. That's the main thing with the upcoming ones, they need improved clock speeds, and it seems like they're going to get it.

that's not my case i googled it

>amd computex speech in less than a week
>the anti amd shills are out in full force

what are the odds
AGAIN

>dev is too lazy to develop a multithreaded path
>still refuses to do so because MUH SINGLE CORE PERF
>blames amd for it

DAMN YOU! DAMN YOU TO HELL.

yes go...guys AMD is for poorfags

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this is my case

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Except AMD was the worse option for like a decade if not longer. Even now AMD is the worse option for the best single core performance. Only streamers and "content creators" should buy Ryzen.

RGB, RTX and twenty million fans.

>Don't expect anything above 1080p
Nigger what? I have an I5-4690K and a R9 390 and can still play recent games at Ultra-wide resolutions without sacrificing too much quality for framerate.

I just bought a AMD Ryzen 5 2600 CPU to replace my old and shitty I5 4440 (3.10 ghz with 4 cores).
How fucked am I ?

Not fucked at all, its a huge upgrade.

What case is that you have there?

>Recommending Kingston SSDs ever
There is a reason why they are so cheap user and when the "good" versions (SU650, BX500, WD Green, etc) are only $1-3 more.

Indeed! normal people should just buy safe and certified technology

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Get a MSI B450 Tomahawk.
1TB SU800 if its still $80-90.
GTX 1660Ti and sell it once proper cards come out.
Avoid corsair PSUs, look for EVGA G3 or Seasonic PSUs, do not cheap out on this part.

How are they "so cheap" if the better alternatives barely cost more?

>1660 ti
Spotted the tard.

But wouldn't that mean the 7700k would also tank in price meaning I would probably end up with a similar discount, 50% off a lower amount? At the mo the deal I'm getting is 145 dollars for a 7700k (second hand) if I trade in my 7500. I guess there's no telling, maybe? The 7700k seems to be really good still, but I can never tell since people seem to shill the hell out of 8core+ cpus.

oh look, another zoomer who doesn't understand airflow and buys a case that hotboxes the parts inside.

>I play at 800x600 even 640x480
Oh if only you illiterates could truly see

Don't trust /g/, ever. It's full of Linux trannies who know jackshit about PCs.
You can play Dolphin on a cheap laptop nowadays and PCSX2 will run on way worse hardware with no issues.

>Don't trust /g/, ever.
I agree, only trust your local rabbi and/or merchant.

Would you buy a motorcycle instead of a car?

Of course my son 2048 x 1536 CRT g225f

I have a R5 2600 and RPCS3 works pretty fine in the games I care for, I really don't think that for the same money I gave for it an Intel CPU would do any better.

Shitty controller(2 actually, Marvell or Phison controller).
Mystery meat Chinese NAND(Often Toshiba 2D NAND instead 3D in fucking 2019).

The other cheap SSDs use Intel/Micron 3D NAND or their own 3D NAND (WD uses Sandisk NAND which they own, PNY uses Toshiba NAND, etc) with a SM controller which is the standard when it comes to reliable low end SSDs.

Yeah, maybe this dolphin

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There seem to be loads of games that run well even on a mid-tier CPU. But there are some really noticeable exceptions like Demon's Souls where you sort of need an enthusiast CPU for it to run well.

Have you ever looked at /g/ and its PCbuilding general? They even recommend m.2 SSDs when in fact that's just wasted money. Do not trust retards with building a PC, looking on either Yea Forums or /g/ is a grave mistake. Not to mention half the GPUs they list are worthless to even buy.

>emulating

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>They even recommend m.2 SSDs when in fact that's just wasted money.
The first thing people will do if you tell them that you are getting a NVMe SSD is call you a retard and tell you to get a 860 EVO.

Yeah i too play games in my $700 PVM at 480p with my $500 DAC on my consoles with overpriced used games for that realistic feeling.

Epic picture bro.
I had an i5 4460 until a few weeks ago and I had 0 issues with Dolphin even with some of the older builds. Last time I touched the emulator was in 2017 and I had no troubles running shit at 3-4 times native, which is 1080p I think. You can run Dolphin on really shit hardware now.

>Intel's ANOTHER security vulnerability just got exposed, patch reduces performance of all CPUs since 2011 by up to 9%
>Instant anti-AMD threads pop up
Hmmm

>M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard
Oh nice they've actually changed it from "consider m.2" to this after I complained last week.

AMD was also affect by 2018's or whenever it was Meltdown and Spectre. That being sad I am still running 2014 bios on my MB because I can't be assed to update it. If you think pajeet can't hack you anymore you're dumb.

You want 3200 CL14 RAM for Ryzen. FlareX is good.
I'm not sure if Ryzen 5 gets the cool stock cooler, but if it does then Hyper 212 is rather redundant.
I wouldn't trust ADATA when it comes to SSDs, get Samsung.
And you should get a better PSU. That series from Corsair is great, just get at least 650W to be safe.

>last week
What, it has been that way for months.
archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/thread/69079032/#69079032

I know for a fact it has been "consider m.2" not too long ago.

>I wouldn't trust ADATA when it comes to SSDs,
They aren't that bad, they use a decent controller(SM2258) with old Intel TLC NAND(Reason why they are so cheap).
But so far they have 3 good options(SU650, SU800 and SX8200) and the rest are shit not worth considering (They are the only ones that sell MLC NAND SSDs outside Samsung though).
Still nowhere close to Samsung reliability/performance, the reason they are popular is because they are cheap and werk.

>That series from Corsair is great,
Really depends which PSU they rebranded from, the reason people recommend EVGA and Seasonic is because EVGA rebrands from Superflower (Gold standard when it comes to PSUs) and Seasonic makes really good PSUs in general.
Corsair has the bad habit of rebranding the first Chinese PSU they see.

I'm using a 1300X and do not have this problem. Even in Demon Souls on RPCS3.

Probably a different OP, Anyway as long its a decent SSD who cares if its SATA M2 as long its properly priced.
Example 1TB SU800 in M2 was $94 2 weeks ago for a long time(And the 2.5" version was $85 but it sold out at the second day of the sale).

Okay, I have the 2600x and even I know that's complete bullshit. Either you post specs/how you do it or you can get the fuck out

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?

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The only emulator ryzen CPUs have trouble with is RPCS3. Every other emulator works fine.

So, is Ryzen 3000 going to be good, or is it yet another case of "amd's big come back"?

Ryzen is currently good so even if it wasn't that big and went for the MOAR CORES route it would still be good.

yes
www dot userbenchmark dot com

Buy AMD GPUs because they come with 2 free games that you can either redeem for yourself or sell to recoup costs. Don't buy Nvidia right now unless it's used for very cheap.

>people are unironically buying intel

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amd is currently better for multithreaded workloads. aka shit that uses a lot of cpu cores because it scales better and communication between the cores is faster.
for single threaded applications, which most games are but were getting there, intel is still better because they perform better in tasks that require fewer cores but more more powerful singular cores.
intels cpu architecture does not scale as well as amds currently when it comes to workloads requiring many of the cores to work at the same time but is better when only one core is used.
theres pros and cons to each cpu.

>intel
faster per core performance but worse multicore perforamnce
often comes with a built in igpu that is weak by itself but doubles as a hardware video encoder that performs almost as good as software encoding
>amd
slower per core performance but consistent and scalable multicore performance which beats out intels offerings for workload such as image rendering and calculating lots of things simmultaniously.

generally speaking the performance decrease of amd in single core applications is very minor and to the point where the cheaper price of like 50+% is justified for like 5-10% less single core performance.
most new games are made to be able to take advantage of multiple cores anyways because console games are also heavily multithreaded.

there really is no right answer but amd is the best bang for your buck currently and ryzen actually got intel to start sweating and start to actually improve their cpus.

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lian li O-11 dynamic

Last week I bought a Vega 56 for 270 european dollars. Surprisingly that's even cheaper than the retail price in the US as far as I can tell. I don't care about the game included so that's effectively ~200 bones for that GPU. Pretty impressive deal.

>he bought intel

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Thanks a lot based boomer user!

Can we realistically expect the new ryzen to be on par with intel on singular core performances?
I keep hearing 7nm here and there like it's the fucking grail, but I don't know where the gains are supposed to be in concrete terms.

2200g master race

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>Can we realistically expect the new ryzen to be on par with intel on singular core performances?
As things are going yeah, specially if intel is stuck again at 14nm for another generation.

Well yeah and m.2s are like double normal SSD prices. I see no point in using anything but a SATA SSD unless you work with large files and want/need the speed. I'm using a Samsung 860 Evo 500GB myself. Bought it last year for 85 euro. Nowadays I see more 1TB SSDs for like 110-120 euro.

Amd was not affected by Meltdown and less vulnerable to Spectre than Intel. More importantly AMD's Spectre patches did not cause performance losses.

That's the one i'm getting soon, any good pal?

double u double u double u dot you apostrophe re a fag dot com

Not exactly good but the IGPU makes it really good.

If you want a CPU get a 2600.
If you want CPU and a IGPU good enough for most stuff at medium settings get the 2200G.

yea its been great

extremetech.com/computing/291474-intel-discloses-new-speculative-execution-security-vulnerabilities

Hope you get fucked by this, you sound like a faggot zoomer anyway.

$35 more for double the storage, increased speeds, and lower power draw on a 500gb ssd?

Dunno, seems like a good deal if you aren't strapped for cash.

No, 4c4t. Either buy something Intel (le epic hacker maymay) or just a 1600/2600. You don't wanna be on 4c4t in 2019.
Well my Intel CPU didn't lose performance either since I never updated my bios. If you run untrusted software on your PC that's you being a retard.

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The iGPU sucks. You can literally buy a 580 for $120 used and that thing is going to be VASTLY faster than shitty Vega 8 or 12 or whatever graphics.

NVMe SSDs perform exactly the same than SATA SSDs when it comes to OS and gaming.
You will see a huge difference in editing, server or enterprise use.
So no, its not exactly worth the $35 more most of the time.

Intel is for kikes and dot heats.

If you had $120 you wouldn't be buying a 2200G.

oh yeah, and you can spend $240 for something VASTLY faster than your $120 card

1TB SSDs are often* slower than the smaller versions.
youtu.be/lERuviY2BPQ?t=168
I can't find the specific video of Tech Deals where he shows a 4 different sizes, but the 500GB one is the fastest in that video while the 1TB (be it an error or not) is slightly slower. Maybe the way the memory is laid out in those cuts back on speed a little. Either way you don't get much from a 1TB over 500GB SSD. Except right now the prices for 1TB SSDs is really good, so there's that.

>tfw made my expensive pc 6 years ago
>thought amd was better
>too poor to upgrade
>Cant even emulate cpu heavy ps2 games at ps2 res
I will never again buy amd shit

Meltdown and Spectre can be used to attack you through your web browser. If you aren't patched you are vulnerable.

>A emulator from a console that uses a well documented NVIDIA GPU runs well with NVIDIA
No way.

Incoming dumb question, sorry folks.
I got a GTX 1080 TI and I'm somehow not able to run extreme or ultra shader levels on my PC. Do I actually not have a good enough graphics card for something like that? Do I need ray tracing? What gives?

>Buy PC without making research first
I can easy see why you were retarded enough to buy a bulldozer CPU.

Yes this is for mc btw

Actually no you can't lmao. $240 buys you a used 1070 or MAYBE if you're super lucky a used 1070 ti.
gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-Vega-8-Ryzen-iGPU-vs-AMD-RX-580/m441833vs3923
gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1070-vs-AMD-RX-580/3609vs3923
Even the 1070 ti is only around 65% faster. COnsidering you're almost spending double the money it's not worth it in the slightest. As for new GPUs, you're shafted even more. Nice try sweetie.
DDR4 ram was 65 bucks last year (for 8GB) plus MB plus Ryzen it adds up quickly.

now try software mode

now show me comparison in native res instead of upscaled to 4k. fucking mongoloid.

What the fuck is a shader level

Spending exactly double the money*

Nah i did lots of research and fell for the meme of
>Amd better for heavy applications
I was using some of these but the equivalent intel wouldnt have made a difference. I just got tricked

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>Maybe the way the memory is laid out in those cuts back on speed a little.
Its actually a controller problem, they are limited in how many NAND chips they can use properly.
You can always add more but it will introduce problems.
If you go full retard you end with stuff like the 840 EVO or the BX100.
Pic related.

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ignore him, he's a rich tard who doesn't know anything about PCs.

>RTX 2060
Go with the 1660 GPU
>Seagate
Fuck no do not trust Seagate. WD has always been reliable. I have hardly ever had any hard drive failures.
>Crucial
Just go with the Samsung EVO. It may cost 80$ more but it has QLC and that means it will not depreciate over time like your Crucial will. If you do not like it would recommend WD.
>MSI motherboard
Go with ASUS/ASROCK they are better for the money. That is if it is compatible with AMD CPU.

And $250 get you a new 1660Ti.

Time to buy a fourth 4GB stick.
Ah, technology is scary.

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Fuck this and PS3 emulation might have convinced me 100% to buy Intel the next time I upgrade, I guess I'll just wait for E3 to see if AMD is gonna sell something better.

1660 is a scam you mong. You either buy a used 580/1060 or a new 2060 (slightly less performance than a 1080 but it's new and has a warranty).
gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1660-Ti-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1060-6GB/4037vs3639
Aka a 1070, actually no, worse than a 1070.
So for double the price I get a WHOLE 31% more performance. So this is the power of retardation.

This. You can't be a true /pol/ack unless you have an AMD build.

>This amount of Vega shilling.
Fuck man I can understand Ryzen shilling because the price per performance is better than Intel. But Vega sucks. It has always been MOAR CORES instead of efficiency and it will fuck with your Wattage far more than NVIDIA could ever do. Besides GTX 1660 is better than the 1060 for the price of 200$ or more anyways.

kill yourself

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Why the fuck did you quote me?
My post pointed out that Vega is shit you idiot.

>1660 is a scam you mong. You either buy a used 580/1060 or a new 2060
No way am I buying a shitty AMD GPU. They have only beaten Nvidia twice in their lifetime. They have always sucked and will forever suck until they get their shit together. The only reason why I recommend a 1660 is for the price itself and for people on a budget.

Fucking dlelet this Intelfags are cucks not us!

Also how the fuck is it better? The 1660 is literally double the price of the 1060/580 used.
Why would you pay DOUBLE the price for a mere 30% performance improvement? Are you autistic?

tick tock nvidiafaggots
vulkan is here to stay

>i3-6100u + Intel hd520
can confirm dolphin will run on a toaster laptop no issues

According to these CPU shill threads emulating old console games is the only thing PC gamers do these days.

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just ditch the HDD. You should be good with just the SSD for a while. Just grab another SSD when you need more space

Most Nvidia GPUs are scams right now even when you factor out AMD's free games and ignore the used market.
>1650
Worse than 570, costs more
>1660
Actually decent GPU comparable to RX 590 (of course used 1060 is better value but we're ignoring that for now). Having less VRAM doesn't matter at the $220 price point.
>1660 Ti
Too close in price to Vega 56; just buy the Vega 56
>2060
Costs more than the Vega 56 but has less VRAM. Current game performance is close, but the Vega 56 is the clear winner in many cases especially when undervolted and overclocked
>2070
No reason to buy this because the performance is too close to the Vega 56/64 while costing $50 more than the Vega 64.
>2080
Good GPU, direct competitor to Radeon VII. Get either this or VII depending on whichever is cheaper at the time. However, if prices are equal, get the VII as it is more futureproof with 16GB of VRAM unless you're not willing to undervolt the VII
>2080 Ti
No AMD competitor. Exists for people with too much money in their pocket, but is technically the fastest gayman GPU available.

it's just that emulation is cpu intense. you dont need a top shelf cpu for much else if you just plan to play video games.

how does one do this disabling

Nvidia turing is the most vulkan and dx12 component arch out there hence why it works best on vulkan and has stolen AMDs only claim to fame.

Not that 99% of future games will use vulkan anyway.

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Ok.
>Also how the fuck is it better? The 1660 is literally double the price of the 1060/580 used.
Not where I live it's 219$ on Amazon currently. And only a few cards are inexpensive if you count MSI and ASUS.
>Why would you pay DOUBLE the price for a mere 30% performance improvement? Are you autistic?
I would pay for it if I had an older card that is 7 years old and needs the upgrade. It's basically a difference of 40$ by the end of the day.

Smartphones run a ton of emus just fine yeah, even PPSSPP.
1650, 1660 and 1660 ti are ALL scams. The only card you should consider is the 2060 and only because its price point is "alright" compared to a used 1080. You pay 50-70 bucks more but get longer driver support and a warranty. Though 2GB less VRAM and slightly less performance. Unless someone wants 1440p or high refresh rate 'gaming' it's still a bad deal. As for Vega 64 yeah those sell for around 300 too but I don't recommend buying a house fire. The 1660 and ti variant are both nonsensical and if you seriously think "Actually decent GPU comparable to RX 590 (of course used 1060 is better value but we're ignoring that for now). Having less VRAM doesn't matter at the $220 price point." you're a sad human being. Price point matters in that bracket because both the 1060 and 1660 are 1080p cards. I wouldn't even buy a 1660 ti for 1440p if I want to play "TWWIPPEL AYYY" games.

>vram futureproof meme

Other than the completely obvious money grab releases like 1060 3gb, no GPU will be vram limited. The GPU will be tapped out by the time you actually run out of vram e.g. at 8K with a RTX 2080 at ultra. In fact, most games have absolutely no quality difference between low and ultra. See BF1 or RE2 as examples. Low and ultra are literally identical. Gone are the days where textures are actually worse quality if you lower the setting. All that does is use less memory as a cache for textures but the actual textures that are being used in memory at any time are still the same quality as ultra.

>Costs more
>MOAR CORES
Where is the efficiency and performance on low power systems below 450W? And Emulation support that Nvidia has?

I'm not recommending anyone actually buy the 1660 instead of a used 1060. I'm pointing out that the 1660 is an alternative to the 590.

Don't, unless you run untrusted software like a tard there's nothing to worry about.
Okay tard what sounds better? $219, let's make it $220, for a 1660 or $120 for a 1060/580? The 1660 offers around 30% more performance while it costs 80-85% more? Does that seem like it's worth it?
The actual different isn't $40, you're paying more for less. A whole hundred bucks and you get, realistically, maybe 15-25 more fps. It may matter for AA games at ultra settings but nothing else. Most games are easy to run and will get you 60+ EASY on the 1060 and as I said games like Metro on ultra will shit on the 1060 and 1660.

It's much harder to run emulated games which came out 20 fucking years ago at stable framerates than it is to run modern games because emulators rape processors.

And the 590 is an overpriced and overclocked 580, that's once again available on the used market (m-muh mining cards NOOOOO) for far less money. Unless you get a game bundle with RE2 and DMC5 I don't see how it's worth that cash.

>asian woman as ceo = terrible drivers
kek

"efficiency and perfomance". A 1060 6GB will barely draw 250w under load. System usage is gonna be between 220w and 280w at most with a card like that. I am running a 400-450w PSU just fine with that card. Unless you wanna go for a 580 there's no point in buying a better PSU and if you're an Optiplex meme fag it's your own fault for being dumb.

>id recommend gskill ram and seasonic psu instead. also why get a cpu cooler, you get a decent one with the cpu box.

I think you failed to see the point of my original post altogether. I was comparing AMD's current GPUs with Nvidia's current GPUs ignoring all promotional free games and ignoring previous GPUs that can be purchased for secondhand. Secondhand value of course rapes Nvidia's current offerings, but even without the used market, AMD wins overall.

Next gen consoles will have 12GB of unified RAM or greater. No one is going to trust devs to optimize console ports, so we will almost certainly encounter a Watch_Dogs-style VRAM buttfuckery.

What's the best non-water cooled CPU fan cooler on the market right now?

Why you little
ROTTR runs fine on the 3GB 1060. Why? Because devs aren't retarded and textures are swapped by sooner. The game uses 4.8GB or sth on a 6GB card but only 2.8 on a 3GB card. The 3GB model was a cash grab and at the end of this year it's gonna be obsolete but nonetheless you can run games on it.
I bought a 6GB model since it was only around 40 bucks more at the time. 8% more performance, which you won't really notice ingame, but double the VRAM.
Bad ports will always exist.

watch recent benchmarks, vega 56 aged like fine wine surpased its original competition the 1070 and even the 1070ti. now it sits between the 1070ti and the 1080. it's super good for the money. only downsides are watage and temps. but u can midigate that with good airflow.

This is the only good post

And housefires!

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noctua's nh-d15 is probably the best, and if it's not, then it's really high up there. Just make sure it fits your case

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10k at 9.99$ for AMD
10k at 25$ for NVDA
etc.

Vega GPUs aren't good for casuals not willing to spend the time and effort to learn to tweak their GPUs and build to lower temps and increase performance, but such casuals shouldn't be spending $300 on a GPU anyway.

airflow :)

Idk, I played the 3ds sun and moon just fine with my 1600x at 60fps. Sounds like your pc is bloated with garbage from all the shit those shady emulation websites installed on your pc.

imagine feeling loyalty to companies that you pay.

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Let them be user, let them be ;)

>gpu 0%

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Current gen consoles have 5gb ram available out of 8 yet shit budget GPU like a 750 ti 2gb still assrapes them

I played UltraSun fine with my 4460 lmao.

Wait, Ryzen is shit for emulation? Fuck, was planning to pair with my 2080 ti, will high-end Zen 2 also be shit at it?

2080 Ti/8700k here. SEUS doesn't use Nvidia RTX and runs simply on GPU performance. I get about 40-50fps 1440p in a big city with max settings. Webm recorded just now.

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Don't make me all paranoid right after I ordered a new rig

ZEN2 FUCKING WHEN

pcpartpicker.com/list/d8PbbX

Planning on building this for the meantime while the new Ryzens drops. Only thing I'm unsure of is the cooler. Should I go with liquid or air?

/thread

Do MMOs benefit from Ryzen or Intel more since I don't know if MMOs from more cores or not?

AMD here I go.

it comes with cooler in the box

tfw just buy a new prebuilt every couple years

You have disabled the hyperthreading on your i7 or i9, right?
You don't want all your bank details stolen through a simple javascript exploit, do you?
Silly goys.

user, I understand that RGB looks amazing and I can totally see the build you're going for, but do that shit AFTER you gain as much performance as possible.
Dropping $140 on fans when you have a 2060 in your parts list is pretty dumb.

>heavy applications

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Yes,I know that but I plan on overclocking the CPU. I need a better after market cooler for that.

I plan on OCing and eventually upgrading to Ryzen 3. Only reason I got a 2060 is because I only do 1080p gaming and emulating. Almost thought about getting a RX580 or RX590 instead.

Based brainlet. MMOs are for poorfags and their toaster PCs, what do you think?
You're actually dumb, wow.
If you're dumb enough to have unencrypted bank details on your PC then yes.

overclocking makes no sense when you can easily pick better processor for price of that extra cooler, just say you want to zoom zoom with your sick ass leds

why do you faggots shill for faceless corporations? Intel's dominance is ending, AMD is waxing. It's an endless cycle we should just embrace better technology as long as it's not anti-consumer. The better CPU tech is AMD and will probably remain so for a few years. Bait threads should be banned if game meta comedy threads are banned.

Shoo

Sounds like an accurate emulation then.

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is this the Intel cope thread?

unironically save your money and buy this beauty of a case instead. more portable too

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>can't shill for Intel on /g/ because of the new security vulnerability
>moves onto Yea Forums
>still fails

That's a stupid comparison. The i5-8400/8500 or i5-9400 vs the 2600 makes much more sense.

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Get an i5-8400 or i5-9400f (basically identical CPU's, just get whatever is on sale). Get 16gb 2666mhz RAM (2x8gb) with 15 or less CAS latency. Get either a GTX 1060 6gb on the cheap end for 1080p or get a 1070 on the high end for 1440p or 4K light.

do i need to get a new motherboard if i want to upgrade form an FX-6300 to a ryzen 5 2600?

>AMD pushed out of the midrange by i5 9600K, not even a chance in the high range or cutting edge except actual computing
>lost midrange GPUs the instant 1660 and 1660ti came out, not even a real player beyond that
AMD is superpoorfag and professional nerd tier now.

>2.9ghz
cant even emulate SNES properly. YIKES

>AMD CPUs
>pushed out
What planet do you live on? Ryzen dominates the mid-range in PC building right now. The only thing keeping Intel alive are their partnerships with prebuilt and laptop manufacturers. And retarded overclockers who don't care their 9900k would nearly break 100c if they weren't cooling it with liquid nitrogen for 5% gains

Yes. The FX-6300 is 7 years old and the AM3 socket is ancient. I would only recommend the Ryzen 2600 if you do a lot of multi-tasking, streaming, or rendering, otherwise something like the i5-8400/9400f is the same price but 5-10% faster in basically any game and emulation.

The next Intel CPU will be named San Andreas for all the huge fucking faults it has

It boosts up to 4.0ghz on its own if it has to. SNES emulation works on 2005 era CPU's.

In what universe as 9th gen intel CPUs beat their AMD equivalents while being cheaper most of the time?

>I got a 2060 is because I only do 1080p gaming and emulating
It's pretty great for that. I play most things in 1080 144hz and the only thing so far that's made it drop to 60 fps was Final Fantasy XV cranked up. Haven't tried Metro Exodus yet, but unless there's some slav magic in that I expect sub-100 fps as well.

It's always fucking weird how real PC enthusiasts can talk about how affordable PC gaming is but the reality is that you can easily spend over a grand and not be able to max out newer games, or newer emulators.

I think you came down with a bit of dyslexia

Rich coming from a man in a psychosis.

Wherever that is it's not here because Zen+ wins for value over Intel and the sales don't lie. I'm not gonna try and convince you that Ryzen isn't being pushed out of shit because I don't have to. All you have to do is look at practically any top seller list for CPUs and anyone can see that AMD is winning out for custom builds over Intel. And while Intel is stuck on their anemic 14nm process that manages to get hotter and hotter for more pathetic yields AMD is about to announce 7nm CPUs in like a month. If you think Ryzen is dominating now, just wait until then. Even if it isn't the second coming of Christ some people claim it will be it's certainly gonna be leagues ahead of Intel's emberassing output

christ, what a bad thread filled with deliberate misinformation
intel shills really out in full force before ryzen 3000 drops at Computex in a few weeks, huh?

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obviously i was joking and talkin about Higan needing 3ghz which it basically does

Unironically very curious to see what happens with Ryzen after next gen consoles. Last gen of consoles were crippled by AMD's trash output back then. Now though? They're gonna have some killer specs and utilize multithreading and cores far better. I think it'll lead to ports that actually take more advantage of what Ryzen has over Intel

i bet you say the same about the iphone and android.

I bought a 1600X (which is by now an "old" gen) aiming for maximum performance to emulate, and almost 2 years later I say I couldn't be happier with the outcome of my purchase. Enjoy your

Probably bluescreened while writing that. What a shame.

Yeah, I get you. Having what's essentially the poor man's Intel without any Windows overhead could make PS5 a beast on its library, especially if it supports PS4/PS4 Pro/PSVR games with a boost mode.

no but i have the 3d version of your picture

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Not sure why people glamorize Intel as a brand for rich people rather than just being overpriced, but I agree with you otherwise so whatever

No, I only fucked up because I'm jobposting, I meant to say "enjoy your overpriced bug-ridden glued up Intel CPU"

>and you're buying an air cooler anyway
Aircoolers are fine for everything but i9 9900K overclocking which require custom watercooling to not fucking melt.

>Wake up and see an AMD shitposting thread
>Instantly assume something bad happened to Intel
>There was
Wow, what a fucking surprise.

This.

Same goes for Windows vs Mac vs Linux. Windows is personal computers for people who are too poor to afford Mac and too dumb to use Linux.

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Is it:
>Literal shilling
>Ironic shilling for shitposting
>Retards who don't know any better
>All of the above

>8gb RAM
ayyy lmao

It's like clockwork. I would say shilling but I honestly think it's just intense coping over buyers remorse or brand loyalty of a computer part

At this rate anything's an upgrade

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what happened?

damn nigga

why is my shitty 4th gen intel processor 700 dollars?

Another vulnerability, patch takes about 3% performance, however Intel recommends disabling HT alltogether

isn't that like the 3rd one? how many cumulative 3 percents have we lost now?

WAIT FOR ZEN 2
unless you get a good deal on a 2700/ X and a good motherboard so you can upgrade your processor later

It's concern shilling because of AMD announcing Ryzen 3000 in two weeks. Intel's getting scared.

It's ok, Intel will have a competing chip in 2021 according to their roadmap.

what processor is it?
Is it a devils canyon? They're only expensive new cause everyone and their mom bought one. Second hand you can get the for a hundred.

ok amdfags redpill me on ryzen cpus,i need a new one because my i5-6400 is shitting itself 70% of the time

No need to worry for a very long time with this beauty.
What I find funny in these threads in Intel users seem to hold onto their CPU's for a long time as they are normally good years down the track. AMD users for some reason have a habit of replacing their CPU every 1-2 years for some strange reason

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>muh single core performance
I'd take worse SPF over my CPU usage being 80%~100% in all new games like anything running on IntelAviv.

the latest fixes show 10% drop in performance on OS fixes, and the BIOS update fixes will add an extra performance drop on top of that.

now you gotta remember Intel already had performance drops on previous issues to make things worse.

>Speed: 307%

>another intel vulnerability is found and patches remove even more performance
>thread on Yea Forums shitting on amd with fake premises

really makes you think

It's not that people are replacing their CPUs every year or two, it's the fact that AMD is doing things actually worth talking about unlike your pic related which is a fucking housefire desperately built to compete. No one with a Ryzen 1st or 2nd gen should really upgrade to Zen2, it's just more a case of being excited about a company doing something interesting and new

>What I find funny in these threads in Intel users seem to hold onto their CPU's for a long time

because they spent the money of 10 amd CPUs on 1 intel CPU and are now pennyless, also because 1 week after they bought it, the socket was discontinued and you need a new motherboard (pay extra if you want to overclock) to get a new processor.

if you want to shit on AMD you should focus on their openGL GPU drivers.

>i5 9600K
>6 threads
lmao

The new Ryzens can't even run Starcraft 2 to 60 FPS. They have so many older games that just won't run on them for some reason

AMD GPUs aren't talked about anywhere for a reason.

Really? I play tons of old shit and have never had this issue

By the time this CPU will need upgrading you will need a new motherboard anyway for everything else anyway. The high end Intel CPU's are good for 5-6 years without any bottle neck in games

What are you emulating? Everything works fine on my machine, even XCX at 4K/60.

>i9
>ever relevant
Did anyone actually bought it?

>By the time this CPU will need upgrading
judging by the recent news that will be what? next week?

kek

who here has a 2500/2600k and waits for zen2?

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>clearly this company hasn't improved their products in 6 years! I will buy their sole competitor without doing any research!

It's a stupid comparison anyway because Ryzen has only been around for 3 years. They've not had a competent CPU for like a decade before that. You're just making up precedents because Intel used to be the clear choice

Not surprising when the difference in performance between intel CPU generations has been about 5% until they started added more cores as a response to Ryzen.

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*ahem*

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Performance of a 2600x is literally within 10% of a 9900k in nearly every game. Are you really paying $500 instead of $150 so you can have 197 fps instead of 181?

thoughts?
pcpartpicker.com/list/gJQ3J8

get 3200 ram

cheap ass ram for a build that expensive

I'm on Bulldozer and waiting for Zen2.

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Your ~$500 "high end" CPU is at most 25-30% faster than the ~$200 midrange. It is not any more future proof.

this, at least 3000, that ram is terrible

based CPUs. the 2XXX series i7s are the best value for money product that has ever existed in gaming. they came out in 2011 and are still capable of 60fps 1080p gaming, the K models will probably remain viable into the 2020s. the mona lisa of CPUs

ram was free (just added it to parts list).
and ram doesnt really matter, not sure what why you think it does. feel free to enlighten me though

bros...
when is zen 2 coming out...
im a retard and bought my build early but heard about zen 2 and waited...
its a 2080 ti

Nigga you are already radically overspending on stuff like that CPU and a 2080 ti. It's amazing someone manages to possibly bottleneck themselves with RAM on a build like that

Announcement in a couple weeks. They confirmed Q3 2019 a couple days ago

Post proof.

I have about 50 VNs in my backlog, my next CPU will be one of these

>There are pre built shader caches available online but avoid those, I always had issues with them
Don't listen to this horseshit. I used an 11,000 shader cache for BOTW and it worked flawlessly

>Q3 2019
what
no waY IM JUST GETTING A 1600

That's bad? Not that fag, but my buddy gave me two free sticks of 2333, 16GB RAM. I didn't turn him down since it meant I could throw more cash into the GPU at the time, but should I prioritize upgrading it now that I have the money?

What were you expecting it to release tomorrow? You're gonna regret it, I guarantee you can survive until launch

based

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RAM actually matters these days if you have a fast enough GPU. The impact on average fps is small but it can have a big impact on minimum fps.

>can't even do ridiculously expensive effect at very high resolutions at very high framerates
pc retard race in action

Cute, but no. I say this as an AMDfag.
Don't upgrade. You're fine with an i3-8100. What's not working for you? If you need more threads go r5 2600, or "wait for zen2" as everyone has already suggested. But seriously, an i3-8100 should be more than enough for any games you play. An i3-8350k performs roughly the same in games as the 8700k/9700k. No one wants you to know that, though.

5 1500x here running games 2k@144hz if i wanted to play console games id get a console. Zzzzz

Get a noctura dh15 and 2700x instead like I have it's dope
Rest is fine it runs super quiet apart from my 2080ti which is loud even at idle

Hi, AMDfag here. Sorry to inform you but most emulators are horrendously designed and only use 1-2 cores of your CPU, even if the original hardware used like 7 cores like the ps3.

This may be the most ironic post in the thread. Intel are the ones that locked 7700k owners from upgrading to the 8700k or 9700k despite being on the same socket with the same number of pins, due to a BIOS lockout. Yes there are workarounds but holy shit, how do you not feel ripped off? They literally went "Buy another motherboard, motherfucker, we know you can afford it."

AMD on the other hand will literally send you a CPU that's compatible so you can flash your BIOS and then install your Zen+ CPU. And almost all motherboard manufacturers have support for Zen+ at this point.

I appreciate the shilling but nice fake news.
Phenom IIx4 bro here. Never bothered with FX shit. Never needed to.

Why not just buy a 1600 and an RX570? You'll have a much better time of it.

>software mode

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Lol wot so u bought a 980ti 3 years after it launched? I how it was fucking cheap it gets btfo by a 1660ti/2060

They are not going to announce next week the products they launch in Juli. AMD booked an E3 event in June. That's when they are going to announce products.

Does AMD lose less performance from running background processes while playing vidya? I usually have 10 browser tabs open and then some other minor programs.

If you need it, do it.
But you probably don't need it.
Consider waiting, and/or selling it.
A vega64, or a flashed vega56 with undervolt is undeniably better than any factory-overclocked 2060.
>FX8350
>1440p, 144hz, AAA games
At what, 30fps?

Not really, that's the kind of thing Ryzen would Excel at is multitasking due to it's higher thread count

Why would I bother with that when I can get the $160 GTX 980ti?
>bought a i7-2600 machine from a thrift store for 20 bucks
Based and shopgoodwill.com pilled

When did rainbow vomit become the official desired color scheme of "gamers" anyway? Is it LGBTQ support?

I went from 1080 to a 2080ti running rt shit for a giggle and even the turing shits itself I see fps regularly dip below 60fps 1440p so I just turn it off.
I've yet to see a game make a real case to even use it desu it just looks meh
Quake 2 rt and minecraft 1.12.2 rt modded looks drop dead amazing.
Has a unironically cleaner and better lofi look than modern rt games
Saw this on /g/ ssd performance absolutely tanks since incel can't cheat anymore

Enjoy your
>Zombieload
>RIDL
>Fallout
>Meltdown
LMAO

I regret to inform you that AMD was unaffected by Meltdown, and is only affected by 2 (two) variants of Spectre, not the 27 that Intel is affected by. Both variants AMD is affected by require physical access to the machine and local administrator access. If someone has that, they can do much worse to you regardless of any CPU vulnerability.

I bought an RX570 for $120 and sold RE2 and DMC5 for $30 each.
then pirated both
so it's like I got a videocard for $60 that's nearly as good as a $150-200 gtx 1060 at 1080p
If you do anything other than gaming, and I mean anything, AMD is the better choice.
If you only play games, and want the top framerates at lower resolutions and high refresh, like 144hz/240hz, you need to go intel.

>mfw actually fell for the coffee lake meme
b-be gentle with my passwords bros...

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You do know that they're going to do a vulkan renderer, right? And then AMD performance will be equal.
AMD unfortunately dropped openGL to try to push vulkan.

>literally unironically falling for the graphics mafia tricks

>Intel processors lose performance on a whim at random intervals due to security vulnerabilities
It's so goddamn funny. It feels like every year Intel processors take 5-10% performance hits because they cut corners to make sure their processors were faster in exchange for basic security being missing. I feel like in 5 years they'll be at 1% the performance level you originally bought them at

AAA's aren't really cpu limited

R5 1600 here, it's literally fine for emulation and emulates Wii U better than my i5 3570k did.

Intel shills really can't stand that it's not 2011 anymore.

>how do you want your security?
>just fuck it up so I have to disable hyper-threading to trust my computer
>say no more

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PCSX2 is best in software mode for 90% of games.
It's not a performance thing, PS2 games just really often rely on programming trickery to get the visuals to look a certain way so hardware emulation leads to horrible glitches.

You might as well play on original hardware if you can't upres, user.

>yfw devs start utilizing all cores and 8c/12t becomes the newest standard for gaming by 2021

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Hyperthreading is useless, 40% is a massive exaggeration

>upressing
dumb zoomer

how about i enjoy farting in your face you little shit

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I'm probably older than you, numb nuts. If you're gonna settle for native res then you might as well play on an actual PS2. It'll probably be a better experience anyways.

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you know the consoles have 8 cores too right? nearly all multiplats are octocore. It's why FX still is completely viable today even against intels with 80% faster cores.

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I don't have or want a console in my house. Why should I fuck around with cables and tv's and hardware and discs when I can emulate, and have a completely authentic looking gameplay anyway?

I've switched from bulldozer to ryzen 1700 recently, sweet jesus what an improvement. gonna upgrade to zen2 when it comes out, although it'll be vanity upgrade because i honestly don't see much reason to do it now. i guess i'd like to keep constant fps in gran turismo 5, big races are kinda killing it down to cinematic 24fps experience, but other than that it's magnificent cpu. playing some VR, it's like heaven and earth compared to vishera @4.5GHz i had.

It takes no effort to connect a PS2 to a modern TV, most modern TVs still support component or at least, god forbid, composite. You don't even need an upscaler or line doubler to make it not look like shit, unless you're trying to play PS1 games as well.

PS2 emulation will probably never be perfect, only "good enough". If you want a truly authentic experience, you should be playing on actual hardware. But if you're fine with "good enough", there's no reason you shouldn't be playing on hardware mode and upressing, because PCSX2 runs most shit fine at higher resolutions.

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>intelet never owned a Ryzen before
On R5 1600 i can emulate Demon's Souls at 1080p with stable 30fps, with no audio stutter at all.

Open source AMD OpenGL drivers are far better on Linux, and Mario Odyssey still has major issues on Linux.

Yuzu does something that AMD hardware itself doesn't like.

But it's Yuzu's fault.

But Ryzens actually run RPCS3 well.

upressing fundamentally changes the look of the game, a lot of visual glitches that were meant to be hidden behind low res are exposed by it, why would you do it even if you could? are you one of those cucks that run a million filters over it too?

>this amd gpu runs mario game badly
>therefore i should avoid amd cpus

big think

i mean, unless you're going for intel gpu

>all of these amd fags advocating for amd on Yea Forums when intel cpus have better single core performance, which is what matters for games
ok shills tell me why i shouldnt get an intel cpu instead of an amd cpu for my current build

Literally the only reason to buy an Intel processor is emulation.

Specifically emulators that don't/can't utilize multiple cores well.

That's it.

Zen 2 is going to make single core performance better. AMD says a ~$230 3rd gen Ryzen beats an i9 9900k

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user, PS2 games weren't THAT low res. You're not hiding shit in 480i.

No, I don't use filters like a faggot, I just want to get rid of the goddamned jaggies if I'm gonna be going through the trouble to emulate this shit. Mind you I actually do own a PS2, so for me there's just no point in emulating if I'm not going to make it look better.

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>8700k and 2700x near similar performance in most titles
>$70 price difference
intel dies when zen 2 releases.

>Most emulators benefit from MOAR COARS.
But that's false.

I've got a PC about a year ago and never tried emulation. Want to play all silent hill games. Can anyone give me a quick rundown for best emulators and where to get the games?

Enjoy your security flaws

Source on that?
And on unrelated note AMD didn't say anything about dropping AM4 and moving onto anything new soon right? Since I'd like to upgrade from my i5-4460 and am thinking about available options since I'd like some longevity.

So if I want to play games like Arma or Dwarf Fortress in the near future, is Intel or AMD better?

its the same socket but there are new motherboards coming out (x570) and not all the old motherboards will support the new chips

I've heard that Intel is better for Arma

Intel is also way better for Cemu i think. Emulating botw is rad.

>DF
toaster game
>Arma
depends a lot on the main thread for AI and stuff. so intel, assuming this doesn't fuck their performance up too bad or zen2 has amazing single core perf.

>which is what matters for games
For some games. Utilizing multiple threads improves with every generation, every iteration of big game engines, every time anyone makes any kind of effort in vidya development. There is no reason whatsoever for video games in general not to utilize 16+ cores properly, the only reason is stagnation, dev laziness, and most of all zero reason to make an effort since players will eat even the worst shit and ask for seconds. Anyone remembers this interview with assassin's creed unity dev who explicitly said that there is no reason to optimize their game because players can simply upgrade their hardware.

don't get me wrong, i don't intend to get into argument about which cpu is good for average modern video game, i'm just annoyed with this "hurr one thread good for games" because it's fucking not, twenty years ago one thread was good for video encoding and no one would even dare to think otherwise. devs are already reducing their faggotry, most of modern vidya runs 8+ threads properly, and it will only get better

I hear that DF is CPU heavy

Why would the CPU have such an impact on the fps here?

>such an impact
gaining only 10 fps from bargain bin cpu to $1000 cpu is not a huge impact though

>500+ replies later
So do I get Intel or Ryzen?

>R5 1600 is still in 60 fps
I've OC'd mine to 3.8. How long will that last me? Until games for PS5 and next Xbox start rolling out?

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I suppose not, but I wouldn't have expected a game like ASS:O to be CPU-intensive.

you do realize that 2700x cost less, is only slight behind the intel in this single game example, and will body all those processors in daily usage performance?

So if I have 2nd monitor and running something on it Ryzen is better?

open world game with loads of physics, AI, and huge draw distance?

it's even better, you can run something in background