Smashtards will defend this

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>crying about a low tier
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
*breathes in*
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Ganon is probably the best heavy in the game right now you faggot. Only one even close to him is DK.

DK is actually secretly top tier. People discredit hil because of his lack of a low recovery but he’s so good he doesn’t need one

sorry about hitting you with that earlier.

Is ganon actually low tier again?

no, he's like mid high or low end of high tier this time around
definitely the best heavy in the game right now

There's this nifty little thing called the dodge button. Maybe you should use it next time shitter

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If you get hit online by this I understand

But literally play any ganon offline and you’ll see how bad the character is

He's not low tier but anyone getting hit by that is doing something wrong

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DEFEND THIS 64TARDS
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JUST FUCKING DODGE

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DORYAAA!

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Snake is the best heavy

>Getting hit by that
>Not immediately punishing him or baiting out the jab or wizards foot that'll follow because those are the only quick moves Ganon has that are fast enough to cover his ass
You need to fight more ganons OP

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Why do people cry about big guys with superior strength and range but laggier movement and attacks being somewhat good now? There's a reason real fights have weight divisions, heavyweights would kill a lightweight dexfag 99% of the time. Be glad that your escapist dexfag fantasy only has heavies at mid-tier.

Ganon is only an issue because of Nintendo's shitty online plus Ultimate's bad input lag problem.

Play them locally and Ganon crumbles really really hard to pretty much anything faster or projectiles.

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>get him offstage
>fair
>dead
Woah

>his uair has priority over yours and hits you
>you bounce off the bottom of the stage and die

its kinda sad that ganon stole ikes f-smash and does it much better than him. seriously why does ikes lag so much more

oh my god lol
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>Ganondorf is gonna be even worse here than he was in Smash 4
>1. Recoveries are more important. Sure the directional airdodges will help somewhat, but in this game, recovering is way less forgiving, edgeguarding is easier, and having only one air dodge means you'll be way less safe coming back from the stage. This is the biggest problem he'll face going into this game.

2. His new smash attacks are worse. Believe it or not, he had one of the single best moves in the game with his old up smash. Lagless, high power, deceptively large hitbox, and good for mind games, this move was amazing. You could use it and trick people into thinking it had you were unsafe and then suddenly hit them with another attack. New Usmash only has a better hit box, everything else about it is worse. The fact that it's laggy as hell will mean that you will never use it. His new fsmash is just basically Ike's. Slower and laggier than his old one, and doesn't have close to the same shield push back which will make it easier to punish.

3. His best move, his uair, is slower and weaker and has a worse hit box.

4. Being one of the top 3 slowest running characters in the game is an even bigger weakness since he can never take advantage of the run cancel attacks the same way even average speed characters can. This is a massive universal change that he'll basically miss out on because he's such a lard ass.

You guys may think that Ganondorf's flashy new design, moves, and landing lag changes will make him better... but the truth is, the nerfs to some of his attacks and the overall game engine changes are radically stacked against him. You will see that when this game comes out, he'll be even more unplayable than he was before.

Boy were they wrong

i cant green text :(

>linking to some random gamefaqs post made by a 12 year old as an argument

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wasnt really for arguments sake just kinda for a chuckle :/