Creators were fucking bullshit and ruined the game. A class that can oneshot everybody...

Only if you played in a server infested with bots or a private server, also they were easily killed, even a second class priest can kill them.

Nobody likes nostalgia fags see meleefags, pre-renewal fags are the meleefags of ro.

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Recently started playing on novaro. Renewal has come a long way. It's fun.

>people that genuinely care about game balance and mechanics
vs
>waifufaggots that cannot go 2 minutes without posting images that makes their peepee hard

So is there a Yea Forums server being made, or..?

If only people people still played this game

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servar?

nice 2000 auto traders

>requires a shitton of money
>needs more stats than you will ever possibly get
>pretty much no reliable AoE damage
>support skills are situational
>only 1 truly great damage skill
>every Homunculus but one is extremely squishy
>leveling up is hell until you get Homunculus
Creators were always fine. Monks were the bullshit job.

*ahem*

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>Ragnarok
>balance

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How are the new classes (Star Emperor etc.)? I quit before I got to play them

>caring about ragnashit when wow classic drops in a few months

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tabcombat shitters stay out of the thread, thanks

wow is garbage

lmao autotraders dont count

>he specd all vit

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>click enemy and wait until it dies
>repeat a trillion times

wow such skill

i just said to keep WoW out of the thread, no need to discuss the combat. thanks.

Post screenshots

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This, if your MMO is balance then its boring as fuck.

No one wants to sit and farm for 200 hours to be on par with everyone else.

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>invest thousands of hours into a game
>cant one shot people
shit game design desu

If your MMO has more than 3 "viable" classes it's a shit MMO.
Period.

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What is the best class for newbies? I always played Sinx but i always sucked. Monk or LK?

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>Pnumna

This.
Do you have any idea how many hours of investment goes into making a Biochemist/Creator? Merchant branch is fucking bullshit. If I spend the week leading up to Saturday WoE grinding and crafting potions then I should be able to one shot a fucking Paladin with one of them.

Classic, pre or renewal?

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archers are the go to class for newbies and brainlets

We should organize on a server and play until everyone gets bored. like a week or two

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No idea what a Star Emperor is. I assume you mean Star Gladiator aka. Taekwon Masters, plus the whole Taekwon tree.

Taekwons are fun. They use the same "basic attacks trigger stance" gimmick of Monks, except TKs have multiple stances so it's not just mashing the Triple-Hit skill all the time. They also have a Ranker gimmick that rewards autists that are willing to go through the tedium of hunting randomly selected monsters to collect points, and the TKs that get the most points out of the ENTIRE SERVER become overpowered demigods. Note that once you upgrade your job, you can't Rank.
Taekwon Masters are pretty much the same except they have a retarded gimmick that allows you to power PvE by selecting a map and/or enemy that are affected by your skills. They are useless outside PvE.
Soul Linkers have class-specific buffs that range from cute (Priests get 5x more damage on Holy Light) to build-defining (Auto-Attack Sages proc Bolts at maximum level instead of Lv3) to straight-up busted (Rogues become Dispel-immune, get boosted skill damage and heal more HP with potions). They can do either PvP Support or PvE DPS.

Ninjas are cute in concept but most of their non-magical skills suck so they usually end up as Wizard/Rogue hybrids.
Gunslingers exist, I guess. They have one great damage ability that is short-ranged and double as long-ranged debuffers, but other than that, meh.

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pre, 3rd classes are shit
archers are faggots

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You're out the loop, brah.

>Monks/Champions always talking shit on pvp
>A Crusader/Paladin shows up, sets shield reflect then starts spamming sacrifice on everyone
>they turn silent or leave inmediately the room after getting double KO'd at best
unless they weren't braindead and used finger offensive

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Well, fill me in then. I stopped playing shortly after Renewal, last I heard they were adding in non-human "classes".

I made FS a ninja to assfuck all the spamming champs. Ended up hating Creators more than anything else

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Alchemist>Creator

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I remember playing on some retarded 1000x rate server and then a GM popped on and announced an event and I just happened to take part and won the event and got a completely unique hat as a reward. Then some mexican whispered me and offered to buy it for like a billion zeny but I didn't sell and quit playing a week later.

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Protip: You can reach 100% of an element resist

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You missed out on the following:

Kagerou & Oboro
Rebellion
Summoner
New Super Novice
Soul Reaper
Star Emperor

>Summoner
Whats that

Any test server with Star Emperor and Soul Reaper?

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K&O, Rebel and New SN were the ones I played with. Stopped playing after the small cat-like thing (guessing that would be Summoner?). Never heard of Soul Reaper & Star Emperor, are they related to the previously DS exclusive Jobs or are they 3rds for Taekwons?

>getting one-shotted by Acid Bomb
unironically get gud faggots

>Use BG set
>All non demi-human damage sources now do x3 damage
>Homunculus one shots you

I wish trinity fags would die already.

>Ninjas are cute in concept but most of their non-magical skills suck
Imagine being this pleb and not knowing Final Strike

Ninjas still sucked dick

>Bro makes a Monk around combos
>Nobody wants to party with him because lmao not Asura
>One day, for some reason things with a Crusader gets rowdy
>He Boomerang Shields expecting to 1 hit kill
>My bro somehow dodges
>Before he can react he beats the shit outta the crusader with sick combos

What kind of nigger logic is this

>BG set
kek
well anyway, RO is supposed to be played in groups, 1 on 1 is severely unbalanced and means jack shit in the end

>need to get close to enemy
>good luck getting close to anyone while using Cicada Skin Shed
>need to build up VIT to deal more damage
>left with 1 HP after casting
>useless outside PvP
And all of that for a shitty version of Guillotine Fist? Yeah, no.

>not even using hide+shadow jump
>glorious shuriken has a 5% chance of activating FS x2 damage for 10 seconds
Just beacuse you are a retard who doesn't know how to use them doesnt mean they are bad. I could basically fight everything but Creators with my last ninja. Literally untouchable, since magic is easily tanked

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That Crusader was retarded then. As a Knight, Monks were a fucking joke

That's PVP? Lol no wonder the game died

This makes the game only more based to me now. Fuck, I wanna go back ;_;

Not sure about every server but the last ones I played everyone used autotpotion software since BG potions are basically free. It really narrows the meta, if you cant outdamage the autopotions you got no chance

I know what these are, I meant Star Emperor, Soul Reaper etc.

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1v1 Champ duels are 10/10 though. Ever seen them go at it?

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>if I use a card slot AND an end-game weapon AND proc the 5% chance AND my opponent has no damage reflection, this ability is not shit!
Yeah, sure.

>playing without cards
Stop
>damage reflection
FS counts as ranged attack, reflect shield doesn't reflect it.
You only need the x2 for tanky targets
You sound like a pleb.

>tfw my first mvp card
0.02% chance though

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Most /fa/ class. Too bad they fucking sucked

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And the offers I got for it

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>playing without cards
You still lose an acc card slot you retard.

>FS counts as ranged attack, reflect shield doesn't reflect it.
Pretty sure there's gear that reflects non-melee damage.

Trying too hard to be a special snowflake doesnt mean your class isnt shit

>You still lose an acc card slot you retard.
acc cards aren't even worth swapping. Even then I do swap for the BG acc before FS
>Pretty sure there's gear that reflects non-melee damage.
That does not exist.

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>"class is shit"
>post webm proving you wrong
>y-y-you tryhard haha
Accept when you've been BTFO

>kills random brazilians on a dead server
>thinks hes good

Yikes

>w-well maybe the players you killed were bad haha
>ad-hominem
You lost already.
Webm related, one of the few jobs that can outdamage a full dmg reduction sinx spamming autopot. And plebs here say that Ninjas are shit.

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>complaining about adhominem
>being a big baby

So is that why everyone rolls a ninja for WoE? Also my point holds merit since PvP rooms were filled with nothing but BRs

>talking about pvp
>b-b-but woe

My point is made. Ninjas are underestimated classes for pvp because nobody bothers to learn them
A retard here just said "you cant get close with cicada on" when you have Illusionary Shadow.
Done

WoE matters, the PvP arena doesnt. I never even exclusively argued for pvp to begin with, but if you want to go down that route then you are still trash because theres no actual competition in PvP arenas.

>Rare materials
>Everything for AD and potions can be endlessly farmed from regular enemies

>sorry guys I only talk about a small portion of the game with a very defined meta and at least 20 people coordinating to play it.
Good for you.

Next thing I say the champs are the best tanks for mvp and you come saying that they can't tank in woe

>sorry guys I only talk about a small portion of the game

So far your only argument for ninjas not being utter shit is you took down a bunch of shitters in a PvP room. You havent mentioned anywhere else where they can serve actually serve a purpose. Even an acolyte warp slave has more use than a Ninja lmao

>say that ninjas are shit
>get BTFO
>ad-hominem
>moves the goalposts
>w-well If they are not shit, prove to me that they are the best class ever huh?
>I-Im sure a character with magic and physical immunity serves no purpose on a party h-haha
I think we are done here

All this cope

Concession accepted. NEXT

I concede that they are garbage. Nothing can ever change my mind on that

>too pleb and skill-less to pvp so he rather hide behind a 30 people mob on woe and spam Slim Potion Pitcher with a skill spam macro.
>thinks his opinion about pvp job performance matters
KEK

>dumb br posts pserver shit to prove points

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>pvp mattering

lel so you dont have any actual arguments thanks for the laughs

Arguments in here are weak holy shit.
Back to your kennel, dog.

the goalposts is that ninjas were always shit there was no argument otherwise maybe you should actually prove theyre good you know

Already did. 2 webms. Burden of proof has shifted, prove they are shit

they have no use in mvp/pvp/woe/leveling. checkmate m8

Weak bait but whatever
>pvp
Literally proven wrong
>woe
half the jobs are useless in woe. Also
>non rebirth jobs on a rebirth woe
Fucking retard. If ninja was allowed on ancient woe the would plow through

>leveling
You mongs have 0 clues on how to use a ninja, as proven above so, not an argument. Try harder
>mvp
>can tank any physical boss spamming cicada
NEXT

>A class that can oneshot everybody,
Fly For Fun did this and it was retarded as shit
>Billposter
>brawler class that uses and knuckle+sheild
>1 of their skills is an undodgable wind up punch that does about 80k damage
>most classes couldn't even dream of reaching that much HP just to survive it as most classes barley reach around 10k HP
>"oh you survived the attack with your tank build?"
>"well too bad, skill also has very high stun"
If a class was even remotely strong in damage dealing, it was getting nerfed. At one point all the magic classes were just fucked in pvp. This was classic Flyff though, I don't know what the game is like today(or even how its still around).

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>Literally proven wrong
i dont see any actual proof
>half the jobs are useless in woe. Also
so ninjas are in that category then of being useless
>leveling
see above
>can tank any physical boss spamming cicada
there are better tanks

proof given, ninjas are shit

The only thing I remember from Flyff were people erping and fucking each other with the pushup emote.

>I-Ill ignore the proof posted here
NEXT
>Being useless at a small part of the game makes it completely useless
NEXT
>doesn't know how to level with an AoE magic Ninja in scarabas
NEXT
>t-they arent the best
>moving goalposts
NEXT
Holy fuck I am smart at this

Not an argument, stay BTFO lmao

Concession accepted, dog. Don't speak out of turn again and return to your kennel AT ONCE.

ok but ninjas are still shit i was gonna spoiler it but its common knowledge

discord.gg/nWrpb5x

This is where most of us are playing

>transcended skill gets punked by having low vit or a fucking acolyte skill.
So much for getting one shot.

What server?

It was balanced around the fact that it was a pain in the ass to level, crafting was awful and the items were rare. Because bots and stat resets exist is the reason why it became unmanageable.

I was going to make one, I even talked about it in another thread. However, my arrangements for getting a server box to host it did not come through.

At this point I think it would be easier for us to jump into a pre-existing one. No, not one of these popular, top listed ones. A nice a small server below the top 40 line, with 100~200 population.

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>discord
Nah, thanks, I'm good.

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I'm playing on Legends of Midgard. So far it looks like a pretty fun server with a good community

Seriously whats with this discord spam everywhere?

Too bad it doesn't have much of a population. I know that's just how RO is nowadays but I can't help but compare it to very populated pservers I used to play.

Depending on the emulator you use, 100% immunity might make skills miss or deal 1 damage. This changes whether it can stunlock you or not.

Kagerou and Oboro are good and Rebels are interesting.

If you find a server that has them, their skills will work generically, not the same as intended. It takes a long time for rA and Herc core devs to implement big stuff like that.

I remember looking into that and there were some deal breakers for me, don't remember which exactly now.

I think that's Nova

I see. I thought both classes were already 100% functional on emulators.
Gonna wait a bit more.

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These things take a while. I haven't been involved in a while but I did go through the Hercules forums last week when I was planning There were people asking about it and the short answer was: you have to wait.

Have you seen the absolute state of official server Ragnarok? They aren't any different from pservers at all.

Care to share some links about RO updates? I'm a bit lost after 9 years without playing the game.

Was playing the PS3 spinoff just now.
Kinda shitty. They took so many liberties that it barely resembles ragnarok.
The PSP tactics spinoff despite being brain-dead easy is pretty good nostalgia-wise.

*Come from fucking nowhere*
*Anal beads*
*Asura you*
*Get out from fucking nowhere*
This fucking class...