I've had it with console gaming...

lol at people paying more for a 1060 today than i did for mine when it was brand new

A PS4 won't run RAGE 2 at 60fps though and uses dynamic res from 900p-1080p not locked like a GTX 1060. Also you'd have to play an FPS with a controller.

Look up the bell curve, and you will know.

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the other one plays 30fps games as well

RX 570 is cheap enough and gives enough performance. Brand loyalty is just for people who like to overpay for the same performance.

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Surprisingly good numbers for a modern game. Did they use Vulkan in Rage 2?

10603gb is cheap though.

i know but how does it apply to fps

its runs 1080p 60fps on xbox one x though, its gpu is equivalent to rx 570/580
god knows which settings though

Frame times are a distribution through time.

>my old ass 970 runs it better than a 1050 ti
kek

>you have to buy thing to play game
wow

50-series has always been "well TECHNICALLY it has 3d acceleration"-tier

why is that surprising you
it's more surprising that my 2070 runs it better than 1080ti

even my gtx 770 mops the floor with it. shame it's only 2gb though.

>bought a 1070 right before the price hikes
I'm so glad I did it. I was going to wait because it was a little financially irresponsible at the time, but goddamn did it pay off.

Imagine you are drawing a graph, a fps-curve. Best performance is all the way up, lowest is bottom. Average that, you get average fps. Now cut off the top 3% of that graph, average it again, now you get a lower average.

> 3GB

works fine

I don't trust these "medium" settings. I bet there's just one graphical option that tanks the performance and the rest can be set to high. Similar to how MHW's only taxing option is the volumetric lighting

My 450Ti works fine too

that's nice.

I fucking hate nvidia

Is the 580 still worth buying or should i just wait for navi at this point?

> i fucking hate good drivers with excelent performance and small number of bugs compard to the competition

>rx580 better than the 1060
Was the 1060 a meme card?

How often do we have to have this thread?

AMD tend to be better with low level APIs. The 1060 is faster in almost every DX11 game

... yes you can build a $400 pc with an rx 470 you fucking retard.

Are you joking? That's medium settings. Honestly that performance is fucking pathetic. This has to be one of the worst performing games of the generation.

>with excelent performance
*throttles you*

This

>tfw bought an overpriced 1060 3G
such is the life of the third worlder

I bought a 1070 with that kind of money.
MSRP means jack shit.

it's vulkan only

I have a friend who bought a 3GB version for the same price of the faster 6GB that was one another store. At least you didn't fall into human stupidty.

>PC gaming for AAA garbage even AAA loving mouthbreathers call shit
>a modern shooter no less
>Bethesda
>iD
>playing AAA at all
This bait is so dense, there are so many things going on.

Will 2400G bottleneck with GTX 1070? Bottleneck sites show 15% bottleneck and stuttering on 1080p. Should I just get 1060 6GB?

that's not what quantiles are.
I'm tired of this board being full of retards. If you don't know high school statistics you have no business being here.

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The 97% percentile is the value so that 97% of samples are below it. It has nothing to do with averages.

The 950, 1050, 1050 Ti, and 1650 are all fucking shit.
In a world where the R7 370, RX 570, and RX 580 exist you have literally 0 reason to buy something like a 1650 or 1050, unless you're so poor that you can't even afford a $30 PSU.

Got a 1060 6gb, 16gb of ddr4 ram and an Intel i5-8400
Am I fucked?

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>1080p
its not 2009 anymore grandpa.

>Still using my R9 Fury (a GPU from 2015) that I got for $260 in 2016
>Still running games like Kiwami 2 at 1440p60 (while PS4 Pro struggles to maintain 30 FPS at 1080p)
>Run less demanding games like Mordhau or well-optimized games like Battlefield 1 and Titanfall 2at 1800p60 or even 4k60
Feels good.

Fucked for what? Fiddling with settings should give you still 3-5 years easily at 1080p/60fps on most games.

Framerate > resolution

If you were fast and got a RX47/80 at launch for $180/200 before the shitcoin chinks cleared the stock you have been laughing for the past 3 years.

Best budget gpu in a decade that no one could afford. the 500 series is the same chip with more voltage which is retarded since it works better with less voltage

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People who grew up on consoles should not switch to PC when they grow and suddenly have money. They should stay with consoles.

>quantiles
not him. but holy fuck youre dumb

You hear it here first folks.

Trying new thing is bad
Never leave your comfort zone

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No, it's more that we have enough retards on PC already and we don't need more consoleniggers adding to that.

What's the point of over volting?

Part of the binning process. More bad chips can pass with a higher voltage so there is less waste.

Everyone does this. Which is why you need to know your preferred partner companies when buying a GPU. For AMD its Sapphire who gets all the good chips first.

What about for Nvidia

xx50 cards are bargain bin garbage, they're the kind of card you use when you need a gpu because you don't have integrated graphics on your cpu

1660 Ti or 1070 for 2400G? I'll upgrade CPU later in the year.

580 or 570?
which one to buy lads?

The reason it's that low is because it's 1080p medium. If you go for 720p low then it is perfectly playable even on an R3 2200G with built-in graphics. This video (see link below) shows an average of 37 fps and the very lowest is 28 fps, which is a pretty strong showing - a higher frame rate than an Xbox One or a PS4 (although yes, I assume those consoles are mostly at 1080p, but who the fuck cares).

youtube.com/watch?v=raJKXNeufd0

If this guy is right - - then the base PS4 and particularly Xbox One will rarely hit 1080p anyway.

So a PC with a 2200G and no discrete GPU makes this game perfectly playable at higher frame rates than a console. Such a PC will also give you higher frame rates in games like GTA V. And it's a PC so it's more flexible than a console, and you get free online multiplayer.

See what I have said in this post - you can build a PC with a Ryzen 3 2200G and just use the integrated graphics and it will make Rage 2 playable at 37 fps average, 28 fps at the very minimum, on 720p low. That is perfectly playable, and you could build such a PC for around $300.

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Just a warning: 5xx-series has problems with huge framedrops no matter which graphics settings you play on (e.g. Sekiro) even though it performs better than its GeForce counterpart in most games.

Evga

This is a blatant lie.

kek

AMD shills in full force again. Still waiting for the new AMD drivers to make Sekiro playable?
Anyone seriously considering AMD GPU, I advise to google as much info as you can. AMD isn't gonna do anything about it.

2200G iGPU is crap
There's a reason it's not on the list

>Google
>Find Digital Foundry's video
>RX 580 heavily outperforms the GTX 1060 in Sekiro
B-bros...

Watch it again and take that AMD cock out of your mouth
>Constant stuttering and frame drop on rx 580 even at 1080p, 1060 remains at solid 60fps. In 1440p rx 580 even drops to 45 fps where 1060 remains at 60 FPS, something is messed up, either the game or AMD driver.

It gives you 37 fps average in Rage 2 on 720p low which is a better frame rate than consoles, and only slightly lower than console resolution (which aims for 1080p but has dynamic resolution).

Something like a 2200G is basically the only solution if you are looking for a console beater for a similar price. And its IGPU is absolutely powerful enough to outperform a console on many games, for a similar price to those consoles.

You're a moron because you seem to be completely unable to understand the point of the 2200 and its IGPU - the amount of performance you get for the price is pretty insane.

1080 has been the best investment ive ever made.

You'll get up to THREE times as much performance if you use an RX 570 which is 130$ on some places

Notice the part where even a 1050 beats consoles? Not even the ti either.

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1050Ti is PS4 Pro level.
Probably even better than PS4 Pro lol.

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>buying a TV toy instead of a GPU

my sides

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Lol pooga sucka

>build new PC last year
>Ryzen 3 1300x
>GTX 1050
>CPU is already on the minimum list
>GPU isn't even supported
kill me senpai

Its still fine for 60hz 1080p. I upgraded to the 2060 because i uave a 144hz monitor and sold my brother the 970. He loves it and plays all the new games on it

>2060 performing on par with vega 64 in vulcan game
Ha ha ha ha shitters

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30 seconds with an SSD? That's terrible still, what on earth did they cram into that gameworld holy fuck.
And +1 minute load times are completely unacceptable.

It's terrible, because you don't even have SATA-III with PS4, only SATA-II is available.

It loads in 3-5s max on my PC with NVME.