Jap game has muscular girl

>jap game has muscular girl
>game treats her as unattractive
When will japs stop being faggots?

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>game has a muscle girl
>she picks the MC up

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leg meat I am cum

>he thinks liking manly features projected onto women isn't gay

child bearing hips

>game has a muscle girl that is treated like a boy by the cast
>she tries to act sweet and girly around the main character only to get embarrassed because she doesn't know how.
literally my fetish

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MY PEPPEE HARD FOR GIRL IN GAM

>people dont like something you like
>wow, you're so gay!

>game has an oni girl

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>jap game has obvious gay guy
>game treats him as a joke
When will japs stop being faggots?

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>>game treats him as a joke
So like in real life?

>strength stat affects muscle mass

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Someone like Kaneko wouldn't have shied away from making him full on gay, blame Hackshino.

Based.

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>intelligence affects muscle mass negatively

Is there any game apart from Fable that does this?

>Japanese treat muscle girl as a cute
>Americans: AWWW FUCKK YEAAAAA FOOTBALLLL OH GOD I'M FUCKING HUNGRY WHO WANTS BURGERS? *belch*

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Kenshi
>strength and blacksmithing make the character buff
>dexterity, martial arts, swimming and athletics make the character fit
>science and cooking negatively affect muscle definition

god I want to trace those abs with my tongue

any good game that isn't walking in empty desert sim?

Imagine being this shit at videogames

>>jap game has muscular girl
>>game treats her as unattractive
Name five games that do this or you're making shit up.

any good game that wasn't rushed to release and void of content and isn't an empty desert sim?

>m-my game isn't shit, you're just bad at it!

not OP but Evenicle is one

>MC is adopted
>Has younger or similar aged sister from family he was adopted by
>She wants his dick
>He's either oblivious or doesn't reciprocate
>Game treats him not wanting to fuck the sister he grew up with as a joke
>Cast thinks he's a retard for being "oblivious" and not catching onto romantic interests from sister
Why do Japs do this?

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That's pretty cool. I always remember being blown away as a kid when all the strength stuff in Fable made you buffer. I remember the glitch to get even bigger as well, using the berserk skill, saving and loading, and you muscles would all be maxed out.

I liked games with customisation, but I wish stats affected your appearance more. Dragon's Dogma had your carry weight affected by your weight and height.

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which games have muscular girls?
which games let me PLAY as a muscular girl? no mods[/spoilers]

but imagine being with both of them

>Girl has combat scars

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Why do japs always do the one eye closed bit? Because of Berserk?

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>muscle girl gets the most pathetic tiny dick
GAEM SUX

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Muscle women arent attractive, turbovirgin. A woman assuming a man's role is the antithesis of her gender. It's a FACT that no matter how strong she is, a man who has not worked as hard as her will still be superior and easily win in a fight. Vasquez is played as a joke character in Aliens, not someone to be admired.

If you like physically strong women, you are simply coling for your own physical inadequacy thinking they can ne someone you can hide behind like you would your mother. Lifts some weights and have sex, stop this pathetic fantasy and grow the fuck up.

Girl muscle women are hot, and you can't change my mind.

When do we get a JRPG where you can romance a muscle girl?

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They're only attractive in drawings

*Girly

Bleh.

name the games

If you think is attractive, you might be homosexual

pic unrelated because it's a muscle man

I would love to lick rinkah's midriff

You are weak gays.

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>Liking Rinkah

Excellent taste.

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>jap game has muscular girl
>girl treats herself as unattractive
Fixed it for you. And japs are not faggots, they just have lot of self confidence issues. Especially the non-political and non-rich people.

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Is this a buff thread?

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You bet it is.

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Good to know than.

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but user,i want to dom the muscle girl

oh my fuck
any lewd games girls like these?

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alright fags give me muscle girls who I can fuck in VNs, better be in english too or else you'l be getting an extra swirly

cringe
bluepilled

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>but the one person she loves treats her like she is the most beautiful thing ever, which soothes her insecurities from everyone else treating her like she was ugly. And it is really, really cute.
I am ok with it more often than not.

Fucking kenshi.

Muscle girls are for comfy games only.

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Incestral Awakening (Insexual Awakening + de-censorship patch from Lewdpatcher)

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Injecting shit into your legs ins't muscle.

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plebeian sub

Mirror has this as one of the 9ish girls but its a puzzle game

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She literally flexes those (real) muscles on her IG.

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Why wouldn't you just fuck her?

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>being a sissy faggot that wants to be pegged by a stronger women is red pilled compared to a grown ass man wanting to have sweaty, rough sex with a fit woman.
Sure smells like SOl in here. I really hate having this fetish because I have to share it with faggot subs.

Doesn't matter, looks more like she injected some sort of putty into her legs.

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Being fit and healthy is attractive
That's as far as my brain goes
I think you might just be a closet faggot

>game gives you muscle and bust slider

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Patrician taste

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most jap musclegirls are just tanned tomboys with abs.
if you talk about real musclegirls aka juicers who take testosterone/anavar/etc, grow a clit of 3 inches, get back and face hair that they have to wax constantly and a tranny voice then yes they are ugly and only repressed gays ho for them.

Oni's have big titty, pussy and buttholes!

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because actual incest is illegal

FACT: Muscle girls that become complete pushovers in bed is top tier.

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I played a big muscular woman in Dark Souls 2 and 3

No it isn't.

Excuse me...
Is this a visual novel from the "Price of Freedom" guy?

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>tattoos
>patrician

Only weak and insecure men dislike physically fit women. If you got with a physically fit woman she would help you become physically fit.

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false
the sliders in 3 are garbage and make it impossible to make anything noticeably larger than the average default state

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I want a muscle oni loli.

I've never seen a JP game with a muscular girl like in your picture and Japan said they were unattractive.

yes

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Never

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Not even sure what this image is trying to convey. The artist made the guy look handsome.

Then you've played the wrong ones.

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There's nothing bluepilled about domming qtz, muscular or not.

>The artist made the guy look handsome.
>Balding
>Dork glasses
>Shitty facial hair
>handsome
You look like the guy in the picture, don't you? Hit too close to home?

Name one game that does this that isn't black desert online, dragon's dogma or modded skyrim

PSO2

Cope and incel normalfag.
Have sex.

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This could be someone's abs viewed from a top-down angle as they walk towards you

Except for the handsome part, not at all. Try harder.

Fresh from twitter, I see

>chick has combat boob scar

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>Try harder.
Cope harder. He looks like shit and you probably do too. Either that or you're gay and have a preference for men who look like shit.

The Saints Row games.

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Yeah, I want to know the source for this as well.

Why don't you share with us how you look, since you're keen on penis waving.

Looks like ArbuzBudesh did the art.

I know that I look like shit. I'm not the one pretending not to be a subpar white guy with a receding hairline and shitty facial hair.

Does this actually works?

sure does, just ask /x/

>PSO2
Haven't heard about this one, is the gameplay good?

to be honest, if it does work, none of the anons that become wizards will come back here to say it

It doesn't work that way. Rich Piana had injected muscles and it showed no striations.

>aren't you impressed with my big strong arms? Don't you want to touch my muscles? I can lift you with just this arm alone, impressive, huh? You know I can bench p-
>I just want the boob, hon
Men don't ask for much.

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Have you played any Phantasy Star that isn't turn based? It's that but online. It's pretty good and there's an English translation. The story went full retard but the game is still fun.

youtube.com/watch?v=Iz5bwO-Wlg0

TESO

FFXIV

That's some obscure as fuck fetish.

you are retarded

its the same thing as japanese games/animes calling milfs "old hags", it is just there to emphasize that lot of people wouldn't find their unusual trait attractive, but the game/anime clearly intends to portray it as such. It is just emphasizing the uniqueness of the trait

Finally, some good posts.

Soul Calibur 6

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I seriously hope you didn't read my posts as anything but filler bait while I posted musclegirls.
You're not taking anything seriously on Yea Forums are you sweetie? And in a barely videogames Yea Forums thread of all things, maybe if we were on /jp/ or Yea Forums or even fucking Yea Forums you could have the hope any given post might be someone actually making effort but here? Seriously sweetie, have sex.

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At least you're capable of basic honest with regard to yourself. Just don't project it onto others.

That's sad

you games keep making these fetish greentexts but where are the fucking games where there are cute muscle girls?????

gimme some names

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I'm sorry
Somehow I wrote "guys" as "games"

>know the title and artist
>isn't on that panda archive site

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i think kenshi was already mentioned

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Muscle girl is the most closet homosexual fetish I know.

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>strength doesn't increase muscle mass

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unf

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I will now buy your game.

Why isn't this on Sadpanda?

I wish western devs were faggots like them.

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>tfw no possessive, almost yandere musclegirl gf

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Strong girls are dangerous, I hope you're aware of this.

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>this sort of thing is unironically some people's fetish

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You got that right.

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Dangerous for my dick.

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some even want to rub their penis between the separations haha

>wants to rub his dick in ab-crevices
this is your brain on permavirginity

>Gotta sift through cum_on_body to find specific pictures of cum on girl abs because Danbooru and Gelbooru's tags are retarded.

I hate this life.

>Not wanting her to oil up her abs and rake them across your dick and press down on you until you cum.

It's okay to be gay.

Just search multiple tags and negative tags

>he calls me gay when he's attracted to this

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I do but it's still annoying.

Not that user, but you're definitely gay if you're not attracted to this desu senpai.

Defined muscles from low body fat percentage are kino; musclebound girls are gross.

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Honestly I don't mind as long as they don't have them dumb fake implant looking titties and man faces muscled women do IRL.

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Skyrim with mods.

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Please assault me.

>western game has muscular girl
>literal goddess
based

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She's actually really pretty.

Dragons Crown
For Honor

Sub "men" are fucking pathetic holy shit. A man is meant to dominate the woman no matter if she's girly or fit.

l-leave me alone.......... :'(

What kind of puzzles and what are the prices? Just some still pictures? How many pics are there approx? I'll play it anyways now

Biologically speaking, Amazons would produce better offspring, especially boys. Its actually kind of backwards that men would want to breed with the physical equivalent of a child and hope for the best. Its no wonder the world is full of manlets.

The only downside with those types of women would be lurking fertility issues caused from possible hormone imbalances.

>Not dominating your muscle girlfriend in a grapple match then mounting her on the mat right then and there

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>not wanting to dom the qt fit girls

NAME ONE GAME

But that's what I fucking said you idiots.

It is the same when every girl above 14 is treated old. Or when the homely sweetheart is treated as default best girl.

Not panda but hey..
www.tsumino.com/Book/Info/32856/oni-to-wakamomo-the-oni-and-the-young-peach-

This will suffice, thanks senpai.

Yeah, but imagine
What about competing for dominance

muscle girls are ugly
only faggots like that

>What about competing for dominance
That sounds good but you shouldn't be letting her win.

you are the big gay

Something that women and cucks want.

If you have to compete for dominance rather then letting her think she wins sometimes or bow to her whims as a show of trust and love then...it's a fetish for lower people.

This. Going past roids-tier is absolutely disgusting.

>Something that women and cucks want.
But then if you win, you win

>A man is meant to dominate the woman no matter if she's girly or fit.
Dom "men" are fucking pathetic holy shit. You don't need to keep blabbing about how strong, dominant and alpha you are on a basket weaving forum man, regardless of how fragile your masculinity is over there.
Have sex.

I don't want to constantly fight for dominance. I want to dominate her once or for her to know that if she steps out of line then i'm putting her on her ass then she's out on her ass.

This dominance play thing is something that gets women off and that lesser men need to feel strong.
Yeah it's a perfect emotional symbiotic combination. But it's just too much bullshit most of the time.

Needing a swole masculine woman is a clear sign of homosexuality or just divergent sexuality.
Okay yeah, sure.
Overpowering and dicking down one of the few still attractive muscular women till she's a weak cumfilled sobbing pile of well fucked little cunt.
But that's just a one time thing. Not somethign I want to do all of the time or make a relationship around that.

>character's portrayed as tall
>it's only because she's surrounded by manlets

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Reminder that if you're a submissive male and have a gf then there's an 100% chance she will cheat on you.

>character fucking towers above the rest of the cast
>check bio
>5'10''

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How would you know? You've never had a girlfriend.

Aside from the obvious athletic muscle girl, what other archetypes are top-tier when it comes to female party members?

>game has a strength training montage

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Rude girls that are genuinely mean to you but warm up to you by the middle/end.

Nia from Xenoblade 2 is this.

>girls with male bodies are my fetish
y'all gay

Nay, my friend. It would appear that the homosexual in this thread is you. Begone.

well they're not male bodies if women can achieve them naturally, huh?

Gays are not welcome here, you must leave at once

>party members can emote

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I WILL NOW BUY YOUR GAME

this one is so fucking good

>Your soul better belong to Jesus
>Because your ass belongs to me

This, especially if they're swole on top of that.

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>petite gf just got a real physical job, loves the shit out of it
>already lost a few pounds and her tummy is flattening; arms are starting to tone up from absolute fluff to muscle i can feel
>mfw i might actually have a qt latina muscle gf who will take care of and spoil me in the future

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Lucky son of a bitch.

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She needs some more muscle on her torso. Bulky thighs and flat waists like that just doesn't look good.

>Muscle Docking in the background

fucking lmao

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It depends on the author and director of the game, sometimes even in the same series.

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>tfw have the muscle bod
>tfw have the looks
>tfw too fucking short
fuck this life Yea Forumsros

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The fuck?
Why in the shit is a bitch being nice to me after being a massive cunt towards me( usually for no goddamned reason)supposed to be a good thing?

Fuck that bitch and the horse she rode in on. Her being nice to me in story is not a fucking reward for being a good boy or worse being forced by the game to jump through fucking hoops for said character.

>strong woman/muscular woman lovers out themselves as full on dykes who're LARPing as men.

K..

>tfw toned redhead tomboy to build a family and farm with
He's right to an extent. Muscular/toned girls are nice, stuff like goes too far into man territory.


I like Rinkah, but say it with me.
_______ ___!
Actual anthropological explanation is Japanese are usually only children, and there are a lot of isolated guys. The sister fetish is way more common among people that don't actually have a sister, it's also basically a convenience fetish.
That's a new one. Muscle-nuns.

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find an even shorter gf, dumbass. shouldn't be hard, girls re always fucking short. or find gf who towers over you and wants to laugh as you struggle to fuck her massive frame. that shit sounds hot

Tsumino is underrated. There, I said it.

No woman can achieve these muscular bodies without HEAVILY abusing masculanizing steroids.

>larping as men
i just sent a dic pic as proof, check your inbox.

Are you talking about Glory or Eiger because that could apply to both of them.

>OP wants masculine traits on a woman
>on a WOMAN, the FEMININE sex
>OP probably wants to be dominated and fucked
this board is so fucking gay, holy shit

>Implying creeper loser wierdo chicks don't keep dozens of dick picks and half naked and softcore pics of dudes on their PCs so they can better LARP and catfish women.

Yeah...

What marvelous wonders must race through the minds of men that invent these machines, of dreadful ass-plumplening power

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i need more /fit/ webms, it would seem.

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It's all relative. Their men are basically our women, so their women have to be even more feminine to compensate.

Every thread

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Eiger

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>Pubic hair going all the way up to navel
Bitch needs a razor.

lmao. i tend to not saved rekt webms but i think i'll keep this one, thanks.

That's athletic, not muscled.

mmm yess

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i just like visible abs on wimmin, they don't have to be super chiseled and rippling. most girls have flab, or at least a little chub

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>5 plate bench press
wtf
I just got my bench to 100 lbs after a month at the gym
At least it's motivation

Athletic is welcome too

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Good job my dude
Keep it up, you'll be amazed how far you can go
And then claim a fit waifu of your own

Conan Exiles

>artist primarily draws nothing but futa
>game isn't futa on futa
I feel fucking betrayed

>seething fatass
Daily reminder that domming a muscular women is the most heterosexual and masculine thing you can do, as the strongest women are on par with an average Male, yet isn't gay like dominating a Male making it both heterosexual and masculine

Why are guys into fit chicks always loser subs. I'm just a gym rat who wants another gym rat, but I'd still dom her because that's what a man does. You guys are weird.

>attracted to (((women))) with higher test than you
>call others homo

What did soilent-slurping OP meant by this ?

What other things realise the potential of horns as handlebars?

Modded Skyrim does it

>Muscular girl
>She's actually shy

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How are you less fit than the OP? Do you not work out?

Choco girls with muscles

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>"powerful" girl is always drawn as mary sue bullshit
>Literally no flaws other than being bad at speaking normally and being not aggressive.
I wish there were musclegirls with actual character out there instead of being the musclefag version of "I hef two big bob."

yes

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>handsome
The dude is bald with dork glasses and nu male scruff what the fuck are you on about

Diamonds tier fetish

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this. all these muscle fetishists reveal themselves to be submissive fags. I dommed a muscle girl once It was great and I constantly search for more wheyfus to conquer

I also want to get fit with a qt, instead of alone.

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>I don't mind as long as they don't have them dumb fake implant looking titties and man faces muscled women do IRL
this is the main problem with fit chicks these days. Once they have a large enough following they make themselves to look like weird goblins

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why do people do pullups like this? It doesn't prove strength at all and ruins your joints

WEE

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MOMMY

its fake

>spotting OHP
what the fuck, why

>stupid sexy /fit/ girl that has no clue about men lusting for her

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I started this comic expeting porn. Damn was I dissapointed.

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She's using the weight of her whole body to operate the machine instead of working her legs out. What an absolute retard

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Price for Freedom,it's pretty sweet but only a few hours of content so far

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Sauce is Mado

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Because YOU let satanic trannies infiltrate

You don’t understand. I’m not a retarded faggot who’s like 5 6 or 5 7 and complains about being short. I’m 5 3... in shoes. This life is actually torture. Girls give me the looks and y’all to me all the time but never want to pursue a relationship with me

>girl will never do this to you
AAAAH!
Dear god, you can take all my video games but can you please ease my pain with a cute tomboy muscle gf?

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I would trade never touching a video game again to live the normalfag life. Hell, I'd be fine dying young If I could live in a SOL anime for what little of it I get.

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melon

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