What went wrong?

Pointless RPG mechanics

Hell could have been Hellier.

Most enemies are restricted to battle arenas with very few between them.

Overall I liked it though, and am looking forward to DOOM Eternal.

Doom released 26 years ago this December, and while it may have only had 3 settings they were still more varied compared to the gunmetal grey walls and orange sand everywhere in Doom 4. A couple of levels are literally "previous level, but some parts are on fire".

>Complaining about a weak story and lack of characters in a Doom game

Huh?

multiplayer was real bad and the weapon balance needs another pass.

the fucking finishers needed to be a treat, not the way you kill every single mob forever, it's a shooter that discourages you from continuing to shoot the thing you can just press F to turn into an ammo and health pinata. the core gameplay loop defeats itself, it should've been a shooter not a press F to kill this enemy game.

Only way to progress was through locked in arena-like segments. Gets repetitive and predictable.

Absolutely nothing, cant wait for Eternal.

by far my biggest gripes with the games are:

the gameplay is essentially a painkiller ripoff, and painkiller sucked

grenades and melee insta-kills to satiate the cod crowd, to the point that the game forces you into a QTE virtually any time you want to kill an enemy which is insane

the the story and characters try way WAY to fucking hard to be ironic edgy and wink at the player constantly, especially near the beginning where doomguy destroys the monologue terminal because fuck story in games, amirite (btw the game's full of plot and retarded storylines but EPIC RIP AND TEAR amirite? xD)

the enemy designs somehow manage to be unbelievably boring and generic despite being able to rip the doom designs 1:1 to the point the doom guy (oh I'm sorry, doom *slayer* because he needs an epic name) manages to look like a rip off of a doom guy rip off.

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So basically like the original Doom where you play most of the game with just the shotgun?

doom 1 yeah but if you played most of doom 2 with just the shotty you'd get pasted.

you sound like reddit faggot
you need to fuck off

It wasn't as good as 90 FPS.

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Yeah they were more varied because all textures were laid out without any rhyme or reason, not to mention how much easier it is to just make linedefs and give them textures compared to crafting interlocking shader-optimized LODded elements.
And the orange martian sand is absolutely no argument at all because those outside areas exist in Doom1 too, and they also consists of a single brown soil color. But it is still better than bringing up Doom1's age because age is no excuse at all. Technical limitations are no excuse at all. If a game looks any worse than something made today in any way, it must be acknowledged regardless of technological progress and no forgiveness can be given for anything even if something was not physically possible to achieve previously.

non skippable 'Cut-scenes'
Arena shooter instead of spreading out the enemies
Bad, non memorable game design
New doom guy design is lame and non creative
Story was alright
Won't be buying Eternal

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>Nu-Turok
>Switch exclusive

How mad would Yea Forums be?

and you sound like a reddit faggot calling others reddit faggots to hide the fact that you're a reddit faggot. I was playing doom before doom 3 was even on the market, you're a cock inhaling piece of moldy dog shit and you deserve to be ripped apart and fed to pigs

but that's just my personal opinion

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(You)

>ok, so basically
>I'm a marshmallow matey
>I'm a fairy
>i'm a fruit cake
>I'm gay

If the origjnal game could make cohesive(albeit abstract) layouts and architecture with many more limits in place, why couldn't a studio with a AAA budget do it again?

>caring about story in a fucking DOOM game

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The first DOOM had a great story, though.

I'm serious

I appreciate your complete lack of a counter-point

(You)

Better then OG DOOM

You morons get mad at shit like upgrades but are ok with no vertical aim or jumping

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to slow and the game was just going from battle arena to battle arena

seething, stop playing nu-doom.

Make me, whiteoid.

Bethestards

Nothing. it's fucking great

>MP
>Story
>Characters
>>>In doom
lmao'ing at your're life

>with many more limits in place
That's not entirely right and I would argue that part of it isn't a limitation at all. The inability to have rooms above rooms makes planning and creating maps incredibly simple in comparison because you're missing an entire dimension. On top of that, Doom4 was compromised to a large extent by the limitations of consoles. Compare that to Doom1 that runs on an engine that literally has no draw distance cap because it's 1d raytraced.

Doom invented deathmatch.

Nothing. The game is good but not as good as the original DOOM games from the 90's. At least we didn't get that COD version of DOOM 4. Also, looking forward to DOOM Eternal this year.

That would be Quake.

game was lit dude.

I haven't played much in the way of current-gen consoles, but varied locations are still a thing right? They must be, since Eternal is looking to improve upon that by having at least 3 kinds of setting.

I enjoyed the hell out of it. Can't think of any gripes. Maybe needed more secret rooms? Didn't play the multiplayer, so I cant comment on that.

How come this game looks better at 1440p on Low than at 1080p on Max? Am I blind or does this have a great low? Usually I don't go past 1080 unless I can still max at 60fps.

More roaming demons would be nice, but otherwise not much. It's funny going back to the original and seeing that it's basically a methodical room clearing simulator for most of the experience.

Nothing. It was completely successful critically and commerically.
Yea Forums just has a hateboner for anything that doesn't appeal to their nostalgia completely and utterly.

Multiplayer. That's it.

Superior retro FPS coming through.

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>not white
>likes nu-doom
makes sense you half taiwanese furry

It's a little short, and doesn't currently have mod tools. I had fun with it, but now there is nothing left for me to do after clearing everything 100%.

I played the original, you white faggot.

me too, it's actually good.

>I could go on, but need I?
Please do.

How do I become a contrarian whiteoid like you?

Boring weapons is the primary problem. Who wants to play an FPS where you get Pistol - Shotgun - Assault Rifle - Sniper Rile over and over and over? They should have had some Unreal style of weapons. Gun that shoots sawblades, a staff that controls spiders. Stuff like that.

>Mars has demons, kill em all and get off Mars
wow great story

start sucking dicks

>it's actually good.
Wrong see

By being based you seething incel

>Most white boys are gay or trannies
This actually makes sense.

I don't get mad at upgrades
see
I loved the upgrades. Doesn't change the fact that it's a badly designed arena shooter.

Nothing
Just old farts complaining that the game should play like a 1992 video game (and that it should look like the same, with very similar graphics)

Would've been fine with anti-cheat. Instead there was none at all. Astonishing.

looks like HALO, except the music in halo is usually pretty good and doom's is just a placeholder for something that could be good.

You're only proving my point. It's the simplicity that makes it work.

>pre D44M
>UGH ITS GOING TO BE FILLED WITH STORY CUTSCENES
>post D44M
>UGH THERE'S NOT ENOUGH STORY
You literally cannot make this shit up

still waiting for a gog release