Mahjong S*oul

They really should add harder bots to train with.

Throw away the 5s for maximum intimidation.

Not much you could've done there outside of throwing safe tiles, which is probably, exactly what you should've done.

What is the best way to learn how to play mahjong? Beginner here

Discard 1s
Fold as soon as I see anybody getting close to tenpai, especially the dealer
Definitely don't go for an open tanyao like a tard

Tell me the way to upset the advantage. I'm sick of these riichi mother fuckers ruining my game and forcing me to play the betaori.

just play online

Also, both 4s and 4p were safe tiles. If you threw out either one, you could've made a sanshoku safely.

Good.
Turn 2, I got a another 5 sou, which now I have 3 Dora. What hand would you go for?

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>Have 112456789
>Accidentally discard the 2 instead of the duplicate 1
>Next draw after is the 3.
Re-do! I want a re-do!

stop being a beta and open your hand

As it turns out it's actually 4 Dora, my mistake.

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All you can do is practice being more efficient so you can reach tenpai before them.
That's digital play: get to tenpai first, if not, betaori. There's no flow to upset, little room for bluffing. You might make someone mad and make them play poorly but that's unreliable.

Drop a 3p and go for tanpin or open tanyao.

how do I play mahjong what's with all these tiles nigga

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GGs all, I'm sure your glad you won that hand

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Have a friend explain it to you while you're playing.

I do that, but cucking people with open tanyao's is only kinda fun.

Huh, so I guess the joy of auto-setups is not as good as playing in real life. Might get a cheap set of mahjong tiles and practice flipping them around at home to git gud enough to join a scene.

meant for

GG guys, got really lucky with that Furiten Riichi

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This is what I got at the end. Should've waited for another Red 5pin for Sanbaiman.

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3p and a closed one. Wouldn't declare riichi if I had closed tanyao and double pair wait.

congrats on the dora loterry dude

Majsoul Friends Room 92391(4-Player South): mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=92391

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Chinese mahjong is bad, if someone else deals into someone's ron everyone still has to pay.

Where are the rooms.

Hey, even if you remove the Dora, it's a Mangan. It's worth pushing for as opposed to less valuable hands.

PINFU
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F
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When in Riichi, can you activate auto draw/discard or will it make you discard the tsumo tile?

Discard the 1 shoot and then the 5 shoot if you don't immediately draw a 4 5 or 6 shoot

What does "Dealing" mean?
To avoid it to complete the daily task

It already auto discards by default so I'm not sure why you'd think you'd need to enable it

Can pinfu be open?

You have to discard any new draws

it's always auto-discarded for me if it's not in the winning tile, never had to explicitly active auto draw/discard.

it automatically draws discards if it's not your tsumo

In this situation they mean "dealing in". Which means, discarding a tile and someone calling ron on that tile.

Without the open kan, it would've been a potential suuankou. Then again, the draw order would've been different so it worked in your favor actually. Still irks me

no

No.

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Ah I see. Thank you.

post the lesbian one instead

yeah I'm a stupid cat

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it's ok user we love you

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Do gold boxes have better rewards than silver?
They're described the same on that wiki site, but it must have higher probabilities for blues or something, right?
I'm wondering if I should just stick to bronze to rank up from adept and save my coppers for gold.

No.

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You dumb piece of shit, you're going for a tanyao, why are you hording my fuckin 1 pin

Rewards are generally better yes. Probability of getting a blue gift in silver chests is pretty low. I think I got one while climbing to expert. Gold chests give blue gifts kinda regularly.

>tsumo... chuuren poutou nya... *dies*

>4th place double riichi in east4
>gets a 5k hand and stays in 4th.
Thank you?

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Nice. Guess that's my plan then.
I've been getting nothing but shitty spheres and the odd green from silver, wasn't getting anywhere.

Majsoul Friends Room 74568(4-Player East): mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=74568

default rules

>3 gacha fags

Well they lose less rank and money even if its not a comeback

4TH PLACE PENALTY IS TOO FUCKING BIG! IT'S OVER MINUS 100!!

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Reorganized it for human monitors.

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The problem with that game is that it makes you lazy.
If you didn't have it holding your hand all the way through you'd be so fucked you have no idea.

i used to be a complete shitter on tenhou and even there it was easier to climb

In friendly games, you can turn off the tips

Never played it.
Does it also tell you how many tiles are left, which yakus are available and lets you know when you can ron or tsumo?

1 spot left

I try to ignore most of the tips it brings up.

Only the last one

Does Ranked South give more points than East?

That's more reasonable.
The thing with mahjong soul is that it's fucking addicting. I had to sabotage myself in order to stop playing, then went back to a retro mahjong game and realized how much of a lazy bastard I had become.

>Chinese games pretending to be japanese games
yeah fuck this shit, not touching this.

It's basically the same. Tenhou ippan isn't much different from mahjsoul bronze, maybe with less calling. You just need to win one big hand or two mangan and play defensive for the rest of the game. Big hands aren't even difficult, cause you'll get tons of dora from all the kans and neither is being defensive since everyone will just play into each other.

How do I become more efficient

Get in you fucking nyaggers.
mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=74568

Bronze is worse than ippan because there are people who actually don't know how to play the game
Silver is still ippan-tier

The core game stays same, though. Even with all those clues if you don't improve your defense, tile efficiency, or overall decision making, shitter will stay shitter no matter how much help the game gives.

mahjong.guide/2017/12/29/mahjong-fundamentals-1-introduction/

euophrys.itch.io/mahjong-efficiency-trainer

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become a lesbian

I'm a 4D Tenhou and I'm stuck in Silver hell though. Silver feels like normal joukyu (~6D)

Count how many tiles you can accept for each shape and how they could evolve. Like 3456 can accept a ton of tiles and two even give you a three-sided wait.
Cut tiles from stronger shapes first. Turning 344 into 34 won't change much for the acceptance, but cutting anything from 355 will make it considerably worse. Don't carry too many pairs, they just clog up your hand. If they form at the start while getting rid of honors and some terminals, that's fine, but you don't really want to have more than two during midgame.

I'd say silver is slightly above ippan while bronze is slightly below. Silver is pretty much the same, but a little more efficient and people form yakuless hands less often.

I only got to 2D in tenhou and could climb to expert no problem. The fuck are you doing? Don't confuse a different meta with better environment.

Go full cat

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Why even bother with this garbage I could be giving those gifts to my cat instead of wasting them in dust.

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>call rate
>80%
>win rate
>12%

help

Going full cat when you have a few dora or an easy mangan is more than enough. It's just important to keep in mind that you have to hunt more for your wins.

Getting first place is very, very hard. It has nothing to do with your rank or skill.

east is too short

ggs

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Is there an easier way to get the girls?

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is it me or is it harder to defend when going full cat?

my first hand over 12k, gg

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did you get it?

your credit card number, the expiration month and year, the three wacky digits on the back

>tenpai for dora 8

I probably should've set that to east+south, didn't expect you guys to go this fast, I guess i'm too used to playing with the chinks

it IS harder to defend because you have less tiles to use
unless you know what you're doing going full cat is stupid and instead of going faster your hand becomes slower

No, less options really means you can't defend as good. If you make four calls your defensive options are basically 0.

For mobile, what browser have you guys used that lets you play in full screen

the F11 key

why slower? but i did notice when im in the lead and try to go for tanyao it rarely ever works.

Safari ;^)

Yes, I drew the 6 sou

>still get 4th despite not even dealing in once

Woooooooowww can you say bugged tsumo mechanics? There was nothing I could do! Ha ha ha ha ha

Calling sometimes gets you farther from tenpai if you make bad calls.

This cat on the left kept doing chiitoitsu hands with the strangest waits and they worked like half the time.
Guy on the right ragequit afterwards, it was a beautiful sight.

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A-user~

How hard is this to learn and how fun is it after the initial hurdles

can we admit that the chinks are based already? they made a good weeb game about mahjong in english

Fellow nyagger in room full flushes first place to slide me into first!

Based.

here's some motivational words for those (like myself) who may be having a stroke of bad luck

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NEW GAME WHEN PLEASE

Abandon all hope ye who enters gatcha

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based cats

Why don't the Japs play in the same server as everybody else?

Wouldn't it be better for the game and its dubious longevity?

How much did it cost you to get to 150 Faith?

what is it with nyaggers and why do they keep scoring with the lowest shit?

they do starting from gold room

It's not that hard. Just make an account and follow the very brief tutorial.
If you have any questions just ask

Just imagine with 325 bucks, you could buy a mahjong set and like 4 anime figures of those MaSo girls.

It's says in the file name 325 dollars.

You can play with japs in gold.
Gold japs are like master chinks though.

I respect your dedication but man.

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Was meido the girl you were going for? I had the similar luck, only I rolled my waifu upon hitting 150 rolls, so now I have 150 to spend on someone else

>325 USD
With that you can buy so many Saki things, even the mahjong set. Its quality is shit, yes, but fuck it's cute.
Even Akagi's official dakimakura is cheaper.

...

>Akagi's official dakimakura

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i started watching legendary gambler but dropped it when the guy was teaching him how to cheat

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Do girls like Akagi or is it just a joke daki?

ive wanted to drop it but meh it's 20 short episodes so stuck it out... once im finished with this im gonna watch Kaiji which ive heard many good things about

>50 points away from expert rank
>queue up for silver south
>suddenly have to poop

how do you guys hold it in? also, what do you get at expert rank?

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Why is it so surprising? Girls like dudes, so there are men dakimakuras too.

I wish this was a ron off the cat, but I can't complain too much about gaining rank.

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I suck so much at mahjong.

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Watch until episode 8 at least.

Anyone know what the event is like?

IIRC, old Akagi is extremely popular with girls.

Sure there are male daki, but of Akagi doesn't feel right. If they like it then more power. He just doesn't seem attractive. None of his designs seem to be but what do I know I'm not gay.

>girls

Precisely this. Like 5 fucking Nadeshiko's dude shit was jokes.

I think spending money on gacha is better than spending money on merchandise because you'll probably actually get use out of virtual stuff unlike figures. Maybe unless the merch you get is stuff like mahjong sets.

There's a weird correlation between mahjong and bodily needs.
It happens to me quite regularly as well.

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tfw i own 3 mahjong sets but nobody to play with

force people to play with you until they like it

>50 points away from expert rank
>4th place twice in a row
i'm sad
i should've queued bronze. the losing penalty is the same anyway.

Silver hasn't been too kind to me.

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I share your pain

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read legend of the strongest man kurosawa if you can, it's dope. by the same author as akagi and kaiji. it's not related to gambling or mahjong however
aight, i'll give it another shot

take the tanyao pill retards

Watch until Boshu leaves and skip to episode 17.

Anyone have the pic of the bond outfits?

Also this.
Watch episodes 1-8 and then 17-20

>super excited to play
>start a new game feeling good with a promising hand
>get constantly fucked over at every turn
>discard tiles only to draw tiles next turn that would have been great
>choose my waits only to have people immediately discard what I chose not to wait for
>more kans than I have ever seen in a single game
>dont win a single hand despite getting into tenpai repeatably
>manage to stay in 3rd at least by not dealing into anyone's hand
>south 2, player to my right riichi's on turn 3, because of course he does
>have pretty much nothing to go on from his discards, decide to go with 2 san
>ronned into 4th place
First time I've ever disconnected. I've played 30 fucking games and Im still in bronze. Im upset and my enthusiasm has been entirely crushed.

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>stronger man kurosawa
hitoribocchi no maru maru seikatsu did the story better

tfw Danchi killed the series.
the story in PS2 games (continuation of anime) is also complete shit. they're trying way too hard with the cheating stuff.

>took me 10 games to reach Adept
>50 games later, still in Adept 2
very sad

>>discard tiles only to draw tiles next turn that would have been great
The absolute worst.Second only to drawing the tile/honor you discarded last turn,

do you get more points for south matches

ye

you lose more if you lose.

Am I good yet?

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I got knocked down to fourth after waiting on a single wind to complete suuankou with triple dora this morning to a tanyao.

I feel you.

Ask that question when you're master.

Majsoul Friends Room 69282(4-Player South): mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=69282

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>disconnected
This was your biggest mistake.
Huge comebacks aren't even rare in this game, but you'll never see them if you can't weather the storm.

I hope Mahjong threads die soon so I can quit this game. It's so frustrating but also addicting. I know I'll gain nothing but a small piece of sense of pride and accomplishment by chasing the ELO, but I'm still chasing and stressing over it anyway. It's painful.

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The fucking hags always talk shit about open hand nyaggers, but they never cease to deal into them even if the waits are super obvious. Stop feeding the dealer, dumb whores.

As a fellow adept... No.

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>Not Nyai've been waiting for this.

so damn close

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>chasing the ELO
Majsoul doesn't have ELO. You're just chasing ranks. You're lucky you're not playing on Tenhou, which has ranks as well as an ELO-like rating system.

I think I’ve hit the intermediate player chasm of fuckitude. I need help bad. I’ve cruised to 1st and 2nd for like 50 games in a row but now I just get 4th and can never finish a hand and every hand dealt to me is complete gutter trash. Obviously as I rank up I will play against better players but there is no logical reason that my win rate would just abruptly jump off a cliff instead of being a consistent decline. How do I overcome this phenomena? Pretty close to just quitting. I already knew how to play mahjong prior to playing this game, and looking at old replays it is obvious that I am better than I used to be, dramatically so even. What went wrong?

My soul is an dark abyss with nothing but pain and misery to break up the emptiness

mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=37320

Who's up for a game?
South, 10 seconds, 25k, standard rules.

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get luckier next time

afaik, there is no relative strength matchmaking, so what room you're playing is the only factor (which is annoying because the difference between a room of adept 1's and expert 3's is huge). Unless you switched rooms recently, you might just be in a slump.

>constantly punished for dealing unsafe tiles

WELL HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO MAKE THE BIG POINTS WHEN IM IN 4TH PLACE, GAME?

I played Tenhou for years before I quit.
Now I foolishly trying to play Mahjong again.
I just want this thread to die, so Mahjong can become boring again for me.

>meanwhile your opponents always do the same and NEVER get punished for it
It's really unfair.

Excuse me but what the fuck?

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?????

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I shot straight to adept 1 in 13 games and then immediately switched to silver room and shot straight to adept 3, only 2 games outside of top two I think. Now I’m 0 points adept 3 and can’t even win a game in bronze room anymore. I just don’t understand. It’s soul crushing in every sense of the word, just like suddenly I don’t even recognize the tiles in my hand.

Plébéien

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post the one about betaori and not testing God

he had three concealed 7 mans i guess

mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=85454
come play

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what fansub did you get

Never mind, it's the narrator supposing Akagi is going for sanshoku doukou.
Threw me off for a bit.

God damn Urabe is Akagi's best match.

Majsoul Friends Room 80862(4-Player South): mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=80862

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Well you learned about tile efficiency and yaku didn’t you?
Have fun in your mediocre intermediate hole forever
When they told you to just chiponkan Tanyao it wasn’t meme

3/4

Out fucking skilled

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>Majsoul Friends Room 80862(4-Player South): mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=80862

One more player needed, get in here.

>tfw got the biggest hand i've ever had and still lost in 3rd place

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>gold room
how...

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I'm new and bronze, but god damn was I happy about that last dora indicator. Bringing someone down to -12,000 was a bit mean, though. Poor guy got shat on every single round.

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Hero with the full on nyagger.

OH WOW, LOOKS LIKE I HAVE TO GO FOR OUTSIDE HAND ONCE AGAIN. gg guys

There was no coming back after that double ron. I was at least going to bring the hag who went for that silly wait down to third place

>kanning

On a related not, I thought all-pon was a yaku. Is it not?

It is.

>immediately assert dominance over someone's ippatsu riichi by calling riichii immediately after.

4 triples should be an open yaku, yes.

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS GOD TIER LUCK

63240
South
3+5s

>Play against chink cats
>Get a dealer haneman
>The rest of the round is the pathetic cats trying to scramble a hand, while they ron and tsumo off of each other, passing around their points to each other instead of taking me down
I love playing cats.

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Majsoul Friends Room 12684(4-Player South): mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=12684

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The game puts the auto stuff into a priority. It prioritizes auto-win over no call and auto-discard. Riichi just seems to force on auto discard, but pauses to let you win.

I thought all triples was a thing and all pon was a separate thing worth additional points. It's why I went for this garbage.

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Three quads is a thing.

i have over 100 games and im still not sure if all triplets its a valid hand or just additional points

3/4 nyaow

Can confirm, I showed my little sister Akagi and got her into Mahjong. Rather than turning lez, she immediately had a thing for bad-boy Akagi.

I knew all triplets was a hand, I just thought it was worth an extra han or two if you ponned every single one of them.

arcturus.su/wiki/Toitoihou

youtube.com/watch?v=6o3vN8AfkRk

>when you go from 4th to 1st at the last round (and the 1st becomes 4th)
RON motherfucker

Big dick plays mean I get fucked plenty.

To a fucking tanyao. I am still bitter.

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Got cocky in the third south round and went absolute nyagger, thinking that east was the round wind. I had what I deserved coming with losing that first place.

toitoi is definitely a thing, but I don't know why you would think being all pon would be a thing, it's fundamentally the easiest way to form that hand. That said with that many honors I'm surpised you didn't try to force a half-flush/toitoi

Closed kans don't change the draw order do they?

>there are people here who STILL don't believe in pinfu

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Its so boring playing with Yea Forums, I'd rather lose than play with people who have no idea how to play

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They do not change draw order

>4th place with only a few thousand points
>make a comeback with 4 winds yakuman
Person in 1st was too high but at least I didn't lose copper this time

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Closed kans take from the dead wall iirc

Would this have counted as chiitoitsu and iipeikou?

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>Cats start to Kan everything up to 5 doras
>Game ends with a hand of 1000 points

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No, they don't stack.

>turn on auto discard/draw
>run to bathroom
>hope I can get back in time to play defense for the rest of the round

Naw, those don't stack. If you score your hand as chiitoitsu then the shape of your hand is the pairs and they can't also be counted as sequences.

Welcome to hell!

i climbed 700 points today, how did you do? /mahjoul_soul_general/?

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after hitting adept yesterday and then immediately losing ~200 points, i gained 100 or so back today. could definitely be better.

What would you do if you are the cat?
Riichi or not riichi?

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DELICIOUS

Is that a question? Always Riichi, ALWAYS

Always riichi. The suspense and music item make it worth it.

pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5ca09f47750d1

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Reach. Is there a reason not to here?

Dont riichi, its not worth the additional point in a hand that size, they can easily climb into 1st without it.

There is a reason for not to riichi yes.

Maybe wait a few turns to see if I can get junchan

Thought it was gonna be a triple ron

>was literally on riichi to get a double sequence multi-straight tonya dora hand
>fucking onee-san avatar faggot gets ron before me and emote spams smug
i've never wanted to commit murder more than I did right then

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It's already in junchan you dumb fuck

It's a gold room, so don't riichi. Players might actually play defensively there.

Wish that was me

>wait on 2 sou or 3 pin for pair
>junchan
?

Well Yea Forums?

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That's the point. Riichi and discard the 3-pin. No reason to wait.

gg

No big dick comebacks for me.

>tenpai for haneman hand
>nyagger tsumo with a single yakuhai
i hate this game

He riichi and then this happen.
Potential Junchan sanshoku dora haneman to a 2 han riichi ipattsu , he still got 2nd place but it could be his comeback hand.

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Good games, had that random disconnect unfortunately, but fun rounds.

>win
>feel like it was just luck and get very little satisfaction out of it
>lose
>feel like it was entirely my fault and I'm fucking garbage and everything I did was a mistake
How do I break out of this? I don't think I'm good or anything but I'm in adept 2 and it hasn't taken me that much grinding to get there so I feel like I should at least feel a little bit good about myself

I might just go back to Tenhou, all the emotes and having an anime girl scream in your face every time you deal in tilts me pretty hard

gg to potato, whahaha, and the third bro

had really good luck both games

You can mute emotes, user.

Please be patient, I'm retarded.
If I Pon a Seat Wind or Major Wind, this makes a Yaku and my hand can win, right?
But if I Pon Dora tiles it's not treated as a Yaku, is that correct?
Also, Tanyao aside, if I have been Pon and Chi'ing tons of shitty tiles, does a Pair of Seat Wind or Major Wind can still make me win?

>second free to play summon scroll
>blue gift again
n-next time for sure...

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gg. 3+5s is fun

waiting on a pair of 2 sou is a serious downgrade from possible junchan fucking dummy

GGs all, man that was tense with how fast the hands were moving

yeah, doras dont count for yaku but seat and round rinds do

and yeah you can call all you want if you have a wind or dragon 3 of a kind but it'll make your hand cheap

>If I Pon a Seat Wind or Major Wind, this makes a Yaku and my hand can win, right?
Yes
>But if I Pon Dora tiles it's not treated as a Yaku, is that correct?
Correct, dora give points but not win conditions.
>Also, Tanyao aside, if I have been Pon and Chi'ing tons of shitty tiles, does a Pair of Seat Wind or Major Wind can still make me win?
It depends on the tiles but probably not. A pair of winds, or dragons for that matter, is not a yaku by itself. Keep looking at yaku lists, you'll memorize most of the important common ones.

>But if I Pon Dora tiles it's not treated as a Yaku, is that correct?
That's right, dora adds han but nothing about dora counts as a yaku.

>Also, Tanyao aside, if I have been Pon and Chi'ing tons of shitty tiles, does a Pair of Seat Wind or Major Wind can still make me win?
The pair gets you fu, but it doesn't count as a yaku. Modern riichi is loaded with weird little quirks like that from its roots in older forms of mahjong where it was more about the base points (fu) and less about the doubles (han).
All triplets and 3-colored straight are other good ways to salvage a hand after calling but you really shouldn't be calling unless you have a plan to put a yaku together with it.

Yes.
Yes.
No.

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Standard rules

I'm fucking talking about the 3-sou you retard
That's why I said discard the 3-pin since you draw 3 1-sou, use two of it as your pair and the other for the suit
>muh waiting on dora
They'll deal in

Exactly how gay would it be if I offered to comment on user's logs through a live stream?

All these answers, thanks anons! I actually try to never call, but the few times I do (like having a lead in points and trying to make cheap quick hands to keep it), I end up a bit confused about whether my open hand is even worth something or not.
That made it way clearer, thanks again guys.

Absolutely homo

He didn't trust the dora discard. Hard to say if someone would have deal it. His discard pool was the perfect bait though.

You mean like critique the games?

Tanyao and yakuhai are always the goto "I want to shit out a fast hand to cash in on dora or maintain my lead" hands. But yeah, there are others like sanshoku and toitoi that are worth learning and keeping an eye out for too.

should I kill myself Yea Forums?
I still haven't tried playing in silver yet but I keep getting fooled on by hags in bronze
Resources on how to play more defensively?
Resources on how to build bigger hands faster?
Resources on how to not be tempted by a quick yakuhai or tanyao?

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All you need is the magical sand.

YES DADDY

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>defensive
>look at their discards and use your fuckin brain

>bigger hands
Look at your hand. Look at discards, use your fucking head

>not be tempted
Use your fucking head

don't feel too bad, south-4 seems to have a lot more experienced players. There actually isn't that much difference between the bronze and the silver south-4.
if you want to feel big brain, go into East-4 bronze

Bronze east is the place where someone call 3 times and still in 2shanten, truly the lawless zone.

Are you any good?

dainachiba.github.io/RiichiBooks/

Outsides are fun!

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Jesus fuck this is so slow just let me out of bronze, god

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Just 1 more user keep it up!

>gets 4th place

Why is the Half Outside Hand here worth 2han but here it's only one ?

What is the difference between East-4 and South-4? And why isn't there anyone in the latter?

2 han if closed
1 han if open

>Resources on how to play more defensively?
People can't call Ron on their tiles in their discard pile, so tiles in many discard piles are safe. Tiles that have been discarded recently are also relatively safe as they would have been ron'd if someone was waiting on them. Also the tiles around someone's riichi (which is sideways for a reason) tend to be dangerous.

This is all you need to know until like, gold room.

Closed vs open

look at the stats of the average player in bronze/silver next time
they have hundreds of games played and stuck in adept 1

Open is 1han, closed 2han.

In East you play East 1-4. In South, you play East 1-4 and then South 1-4. Also supposedly the gains and losses are much greater.

East 4 is four hands (not including bonus hands for winning as dealer), ie, one round, the "east round".

South 4 is double that. The good wind tile becomes South as well.

Yes.

>Are you any good?
Was a 3d on tenhou before I got bored with the interface. Not sure how confidant I'd be in critiquing more advanced players, but I'm pretty good at teaching new players.

But aren't both closed ?

Should I do it

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this user is open, you can tell by the first gap in the tiles.

The 1 han version has every single tile called EXCEPT the west, which is why it gives off the illusion of being closed. Anything to the right of the gap is a called set.

I'm tired as fuck, thanks.

Are you ready to roll a green gift?

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Just need 2 more. South round

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Why does this keep happening to me? This is the 3rd time I've been denied a Yakuman. This time I won. However it was through Ron so it doesn't count.

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>got a blue cookie
back to the grind i go

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How long did it take for you gets to get to adept? I've been at this for a week and still not there.

Finally stopped being a filthy Novice. What perks do I get as a big dick Adept?

>Riichi
>Winning tile I need hasn't been discarded a single time
>Game tells me there's only two of that tile remaining in the game
>I don't have it in my hand either
What the fuck ?

The duality of man.

20-30 south games, I think.

Has anyone made any calls? Is it one of the dora indicators? Sometimes I don't see that my waits were pon'd or chi'd, and of course, if the wait is used as a dora indicator, that's one less you can get.

15 games I think.

Check melds and dora indicators.

free copper when you dip too low

This was cool and I wanted to show it. Poor hag get's double houtei ron'd. Drops to like 1600ish points and disconnected instantly.
In the next hand, he was the only one not in tenpai, and the 3000 point penalty busted him.

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Under The River?

The translation of Houtei.

It took me 28 matches on East rooms over the course of 4 days.

Neat.

That's the English name for Houtei raoyui, a yaku you get by calling ron on the last tile discarded in that hand.
There's a similar one called Haitei raoyue (I think the English term is "Under the Sea"?), a yaku you get by calling tsumo after drawing the final tile in the hand.

I'm still a novice...

does anyone have that "mahjong is harmful to the human soul" picture

I'd like to thank the yaku chart niggas for reminding me that 7 pairs is a yaku. Just saved my shit ass hand my getting a 7 pair tsumo mangan.

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Alright I don't fucking believe it
can anyone look through this game and tell me both
>tips for how to improve
and
>how the fuck the guy to my left won 5/7 of the hands

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he legit felt so fucking oppressive and I can't tell if it was luck or skill

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He didn't need to chi or pon for any of the melds.

Also I never get outisde hands to work for me, single tile waits until I can get into riichi are actually rage inducing.

GGs meido, DiscountAkagi, and chink.
73751
3/4

That's why it helps to have your double being from a dragon/wind you get your hands on early on. Someone's bound to play it eventually!

Kaiji and akagi cheat, so...

I can't believe this just happened.

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What's the recommended strategy for truly awful hands?
The sort where there's nothing of value, both tanyao and half outside hand seem unlikely, and even pinfu is a pain because of multiple pairs or middle waits?
Obviously you should be ready to abandon the hand pretty quickly, but what should you be working towards before then?
I usually just try to head for any tempai, but then I end up with a hand so bad it's almost worthless even if I Riichi. Feels like there's something more sensible I should be doing.

>east 1
>riichi ippatsu yakuman
Welp.

You hold on to honors too long and you discard the wrong tile a lot because you refuse to break any of your current waits and go for the possibility of something with more accepted tiles

Conversely, your opponent played open a lot but had the doras to back it up, and had good efficiency and good waits. Just play more

I wasn't paying too much attention to your hand because the guy on the left is an unfettered idiot. In the first round, he has a pretty decent hand with 2 dora that's maybe 2 tiles away from tenpai, and then suddenly he dropped a 4s draw with a 1223 wait. If he was any good, he would have kept it as 12234, because that 12 and 234 waiting on a 3. He had the pair, and it looked like the other end of his hand was shaping up into a good wait, but then he drops the 4s and then calls like an absolute mongoloid.

His hand progression in the other hands is equally awful and has no semblence of elegance or technical knowledge whatsoever.

This guy just called like a maniac and got fucking lucky with open tanyao. He needs to switch his character to cat.

Closed until tenpai, then riichi.

for what it's worth your opponent had some pretty strong luckshit on his side
he was good at spamming hands but RNG made them 6k value each instead of 1k

game 2: fast tanyao, sped up with chii, kinda lucky with the extra value from dora/akadora
game 3: fast tanyao again, lucky to have been dealt two dora in starting hand
game 4: starts with 1 red dora, picks up another for his second draw, turns into yakuhai wait but lucky that the chun was dealt before he drew and discarded the 8man since he'd have had no yaku
game 6: another easy cut to tanyao, starts with 2 red dora, pulls another dora with his first draw, has another by his 3rd discard
game 7: starts with red dora and 2 hatsu, another fucking atozuke wait like game 4

Basically just try and turn it into something, but be prepared to fold if anyone seems even close to being ready. The shittier your hand is, the more tiles there are that can start to form shapes so sometimes it'll turn around.

most of the time I just try to discard efficiently and go for riichi, not much you can do

#20340
standard hanchan

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my dude

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If I have a hand that is waiting for a tile on both sides of a sequence and I choose not to ron one of the sides when it shows up because I want the other side (such as to get identical sequences) am I only furiten for that round of discards or the whole game?

You should take the win 9/10

Whole game; it's in your discard now.

so what are the spheres for?

Is there any better feeling then ron-ing on some chinks?

For the whole game if YOU discard
For the round if THEY discard
For the whole game if THEY discard and YOU riichi

Is it even worth riichiing a worthless hand, though?
That's what I've been doing so far, but it feels like it has fucked me up far more than it has ever helped me. When it works I get like 1500 points, and when it doesn't I auto-deal into someone's 8000, or worse.
Do you mean to try to force it into something with an actual yaku like tanyao, or just go for tenpai and riichi with nothing?

>choose not to ron one
if riichi, permanent furiten, tsumo only
if not riichi, temp furiten until your next discard

yeah im still trying to get over the honor holding thing, but do you think im better than yesterday?
so it was someone who literally got lucky and destroyed
and they say luck isn't a factor in mahjong

>Is it even worth riichiing a worthless hand, though?
Yes. Potential ippatsu and ura dora make it worth it, along with the fact that you'll likely scare of better players, shift East position closer to you, and win money as opposed to someone else winning money, or you having to struggle for tenpai at game end.

>and they say luck isn't a factor in mahjong
Whoever tries to sell you that shit is a tenhou tryhard.

>and they say luck isn't a factor in mahjong
Who the fuck says that?

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>Do you mean to try to force it into something with an actual yaku like tanyao, or just go for tenpai and riichi with nothing?
Well that all depends, it's not like a bad hand has any specific qualities or anything other than just having poor groups to start. Just push it normally based on what you're given, and be ready to fold. Closed riichi is kind of my default in general

Hm, OK, thanks. I've been fucked over so many times recently after riichiing that I was thinking it wasn't worth it, but maybe it was just shit luck.

>coin x5000
it's like winning but still losing

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Luck is always going to be a factor. Honestly, the second I get into a 4th place, or when I lose 3 games in a row, I generally cut myself off there for the night.

What am I supposed to be looking at?

What happens if somebody gets double/triple ronned and everyone has different winning tile animations active

The list of items you can get from the new event
From what I can understand, you can actually get all of them though

Is there any way to summon girls without paying?

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>new event
is it that virtual youtuber thing
why arent they adding her as a playable character?

I think you can by trading items for dust

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Break down your gifts to dust and buy tickets with it

>make a really dumb mistake
>cant discard the next tile or two you should because then the others would notice

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>Discard them anyways
>They think I'm folding
>Stop paying attention to me
>Suddenly damaten mangan.

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I can't believe this just happened
>Go on a hot as fuck streak, up to nearly 60k
>Figure I'll just lay low the rest of the game
>Absolute fucknut who wasn't even in tenpai deals into a riichi'd kokushi at the ass end of a round
>Enough to push me into second

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I only watched the first few rounds but your tile effficiency is terrible and you have zero defense. Stop breaking up your blocks for no reason. Go read Riichi Book 1.

Do you go for it Yea Forums?

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based retard

might as well, it's complete trash hand outside 13 orphans chance

Yeah at 10 is when I would go for it

Well there's the option to redraw it, so that's the question
I always go for it just because I want to actually have a kokushi under my belt

I got dealt this as dealer, would you call draw?

Would only call draw at 9, and that's a major if. Would go for it otherwise.

If you're first to tenpai and your hand is worth less than mangan, you should immediately riichi pretty much anything unless:
1. You are not the dealer AND
2. Riichi is your only han AND
3. You have a bad wait (i.e. kanchan, shanpon, or penchan, or any other wait with four remaining tiles or less)

I would go for it for fun then

is it really that bad? keep in mind I only started playing 2 days ago

You should be playing to win, not for fun.

I have about 50 ranked games, and have managed 1 summon ticket, and most of the dust (it costs 50) for it I got by spending the free gifts it gave me at the start. I'm told summoning has a 5% chance of giving a character... I got a gift worth 5 dust.

Not him but especially if you're new don't feel bad, we all have to start somewhere

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How come the gameki is locked?
I can't find a way to lock my items
and what's the reason to lock it are you not supposed to sell any purple gifts because they need it for bond outfit? I think I sold a bunch

Okay, well it's not that terrible for someone with only two day's experience, but there's definitely a lot of room for improvement. Read the Mahjong Fundamentals series on mahjong.guide for a primer on basic strategy, or you can go straight into RB1 if you're feeling game.

It says in the description it can't be traded for dust

Third poster here, rather than reading up on anything, I think your first task should just be play a ton of games first. You should probably get enough experience from say, 100 sessions total before you should start seeking to improve your play through study. It gives you a much better sense of the game so that you can incorporate what you learn into your skillset more smoothly.

Got it, thanks.
That begs the question though, what is it that gives away others' tenpai?
Obviously if they riichiid, but should I assume someone is in tenpai if they've called more than once?
If the round has gone on long enough?
Should I be able to tell if they're in tenpai from their discards?
I'm kind of watching all three of those at the moment, but probably not very intelligently.

knowing that your stealing money from someone else makes silver so much more gratifying to play

please join
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When somebody draws a tile you can watch their tiles and see if they discard the same one they picked up. If they do that for a bunch of rounds in a row it is a good sign that they are in tenpai or at least 2 away.

well i'll just try to play more and read a bit of Riichi 1 in my free time between classes, thanks for the encouragement

Lemme fix your PRÖÖÖÖHH

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Feeling out someone's tenpai is nebulous at best. Most of the pro players just ASSUME someone is in tenpai through your triggers listed. At your early stage in development, you should assume no one is in tenpai unless they're in riichi, or they've made 3-4 calls AND it's past the second row of discards. Focusing on anymore than that will just give you a massive headache for so little gains.

"Before you learn footsies, learn the art of leaping in to whoop their ass".

Only played 3 games so far but mahjong is pretty fun :)

2 more

1 more hour till Nikaidou event

I agree with the other guy that the riichi book will just go right over your head if you read it now, it's very good info but it's really not pure beginner stuff and it'll probably just stress you out of it anything.

Don't worry about anyone being in tenpai unless they call riichi. Don't worry about paying attention to whether someone is discarding their draws or discarding tiles from their hand - that's not helpful for detecting tenpai and is not helpful for extracting any useful information until both you and your opponents are at a rather high level (probably jade or throne room level, in Majsoul terms).

>start getting lucky
>other players get luckier
Is this the true nature of mahjong?

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1 more person for a game. South round

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One good thing to pay attention to is whether people are discarding their drawn tile or from their hand. If they go a bunch of turns only discarding their drawn tile, it's safe to assume they're in tenpai or at worst one away from it.

holy shit I got in. 1 more

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1 more

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Mahjong is a game of skill.

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did you chiitoitsu or toitoi?

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That game is literally Teru playing versus 3 dumb nyaggers and tge dumbest one is spamming the subara emote all the time.

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1 more we've been waiting for 10 mins....

I'm here to fuck.

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two yakuhai with a ryanmen wait.

40 more minutes.

That works
If you're in first in South 4 you might as well push something fast yeah

What about half-flush?

dumb hair

Fucking tsumos, man.

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>Congratulations! Your efficiency was 230/238, or 96%.

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>event starts in half an hour
>still a novice 3 shitter
AHHHHHH

>1st place kans
>4 doras
this isn't fair

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Why not both?

Yes

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Whats this about an event?

how do events work?

Is there a rank requirement for the event?

Saki
Saki: The Nationals
Saki Episode of Side A

That the right order?

Side A goes in between, its plot ties into Nationals I think

I love when that happens. Too bad the only time it's happened to me I couldn't bring the hand home...

>efficiency
>picture of Akagi
how many years did that one night of mahjong take?

Sake, Side A, then the Nationals. Side A is like the tin says. A side story. They lead in to the nationals.

>East Room
>Watch 2 hags rape a loli
>End up in second +/-0
huh

wake me up inside
points in a constant state of going nowhere

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>Call Rate 57.38%

that's low for an east nyagger

i've had a shitload of quick open hand starts in the last few games that ended up going nowhere anyway

Just realized the riichi'd tile is a lot smaller for some reason.

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It's not, it's just perspective.

Majsoul Friends Room 99755(4-Player East): mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=99755

>dealer won
>two draws
I'm getting tired of this.

3/4

>tfw when you blow a dora 8

It's here

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what does the right number mean?

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Do I even have a chance as a novice 1?

There is too many kanji for a normal human being to understand.

win a game with ron - x2 textbooks
play 6 games without dealing in - 3 glasses
win a game with riichi - 1 textbook

sphere's - 2 textbook each (can claim one of each)
purple gift - 7 glasses each (one of each)
coins x 5000 - 1 textbook each (can claim up to 13 times)

why not

Refresh your game window and it will be there in EN client

They went the jew way and are only giving locked gifts
So whats the plan do we just dust all dustables now?

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>play 6 games without dealing in
literally impossible

games not matches
1 hand counts as a game

in case your not memeing its 6 rounds not 6 full matches without dealing

you'll get there one day user

stupid nyaagger

honba counter, it gets added to when there's a draw or when east wins and stays east. It adds 300 points per counter to wins. It resets to zero when someone other than east wins

What is this Nikaido event about?

Fuck Saki is actually pretty good.
I'm kinda surprised by how good it actually looks.
Watching a BD version probably helps, it looks so clean. But there's constantly nice angles and shit.
And damn the lesbian stuff wasn't just a meme.

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Free stuff just for playing.

free shit

LITERALLY impossible

Nah, everything about it sucks ass. Watch 5 episodes and the only good thing in the entirety of it is Taco Girl

Like girls?

Majsoul Friends Room 85114(4-Player South): mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=85114

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GG
Gomen~

Ha, good one

What does this number mean?

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>favorite thing is the absolute single worst thing about the series
Imagine having taste this bad

>Roll gacha
>Get Shrine Maiden
>Wanted FBI-chan, but whatever
>Play as the priestess
>Use her emote before riichi
>Pray for Tsumo
>Get to ron immediately
Remember to always pray

Need one more, please.

so did they fix not getting daily quest resets or is this event going to be luck based too

Why are people so infatuated with autism-chan?
She is literally the worst.

Nevermind, full now.

>Hurr durr big tit lesbos with rainbow hair with super powers that only work for chinese poker
Yeah, I'm thinking your a fag

I hear that if you buy everything in the shop you can buy a secret Nikaidou outfit

so what do orbs do

>Why are people so infatuated with autism-chan?
Because they can relate to her.

Honestly her emotes suck except for the FBI one.

you need them for alternate costumes, i think

Her emotes are cute

Max bond.

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standard hanchan

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0/10

so when's the app coming out

God I hate the gamer girl. What's the blonde girl supposed to be?

maid has the best emotes

she is a rude little gremlin
also i think the pink one is supposed to be an idolm@ster or some shit instead of a gamer

Wait, what the fuck.
What kind of room is this
Why are we in west 1 when someone has 35 k points

The gremlin is absurdly cute and funny.

Fuck off gayjong fags

a koromo

I think I'm retarded
I don't understand mahjong

It takes time user

So I should keep the purple cookies from this event, dust enough gifts for the stones so I can have the inferior cat outfit and play enough games to get her to 5 hearts.
Nice game mahjongtards.

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Come get some, boys

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GGs, guys, but what the fuck kind of a room set up was that?

i got 100% first try

Sorry I left early I had no idea there was a west wind and I just had to sleep. Btw that ron on the first round tilted me to no end

Gomenasai...~

UMA points, used in calculating winnings when playing for money.

>completed the 3 daily quests in a single game with Yea Forums
these quests are underwhelming

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Uma isn't an acronym

So what's the strategy on this event?
Absolutely none of this is going to help with getting a character by looks of things, so should I just be going for the coppers to spend on gold rooms? For if I make it to that point...

So are all the purple gifts unable to be turned into star dust?

All I want are cat outfits and emotes, what do I do.

You guys think the rewards will change with each day, or will they stay static for the whole duration of event?