Reminder that if you subscribe to any digital product you're actively destroying not only video games but the fabric of our society as well.
Reminder to pirate before you buy.
Reminder that consumers brought video games to sorry state it's at today.
Reminder that this board is anti-video games otherwise it would have these maxims in a pinned thread for all to read.
Don't subscribe, ever. Always pirate before you buy. Do not buy games like VtMB where money goes to people who had nothing to do with making it. If you can, donate to the developer directly, not the publisher. Don't use DRM software like Steam and its clones. Don't give money to streamers, you're creating a class of shills that will completely saturate the free 'press' market.
Reminder that most of the people who talk like this are broke faggots who want to justify themselves
If you don’t want to support a game, ignore it If you want to play a game, then buy it.
You aren’t morally superior for pirating software. You’re trying to have your cake and eat it too
Joseph Sanders
Reminder that Pirate Before You Buy is the most doubleplusungood phrase in the industry.
Who said anything about moral superiority? It's just common sense. Mayhaps you're projecting?
Isaac Gonzalez
Even if you don't pirate, OP is still correct
People that pre-order games and support microtransactions are the true cancer in the industry, companies only do shit like that because retards enable them to
Isaiah Perry
Piracy =/= lost sale. If anything, it's free marketing if the product is good; a filter that ensures quality products get the money from those able to buy them.
fuck AAA companies and the retards that enable them to commit actual crimes and get away with it fuck e-celebs, journalist and youtubers that support them fuck microtransactions fuck pre-orders and early access fuck jannies fuck you faggots
You should pay for goods and services you use you fucking communist
If you don’t like the product or it isn’t worth it, don’t use it
Dylan Kelly
Morally superior to you and just you. You're defending publishers, who suck all the money from the sales. You aren't doing fuck all for the developers. You know you fucking "stole" doom and you couldn't even be fucked to mail a twenty to Carmack who actually made the fucking thing because you're a retard who somehow thinks spending eighty bucks on 2016 is just as good.
Hunter Peterson
Of course, that's why I need to pirate it first - I'll find out if it's good or not and spread the word. You should do it too, money is hard to come buy and you should be spending it wisely.
Dominic Moore
Reminder that game prices have gone up while production costs are basically non-existent since everything is gone digital. Reminder that people STILL pay 60+ bucks for game keys; they don't even get the fucking plastic box anymore, and if they do get it - there's no disc inside!
Zachary Hall
>fucking lie about a product >it's nothing like it was promised >lol I won't give your money back, cuck Why the fuck can AAA companies get away with bullshit that would make any non-vidya company in any other industry be obliterated?
>Dobson is still a thing I guess anyone can get a following.
Jason Nguyen
>dont use steam how the fuck am i supposed to play games jackass? i cant torrent cause my ISP is a bunch of spooks
Nicholas Rivera
This is retarded logic. How about 'literally just have a small amount of self-control and not buy games that are obvious going to be shit'.
And your streamer argument is shit as well, journos are already paid shills, and the best way to fix that problem is to open up the table so more people can give criticism to wider audiences. Only reason to dislike that is if you're a shill for the status quo.
Connor Martin
There are several DRM-free stores.
Sebastian Bennett
you don't play games, you just act superior to people who do
OP is the embodiment of everything wrong with Yea Forums
Oliver Davis
>self control
The societal measures, like laws etc are in theory designed to protect the vulnerable. For example, to protect children from the gambling industry. Guess who puts extra care to design skinner boxes in all but name and peddle them to aforementioned vulnerable groups?
William Rivera
I'm a moralfag, but I'm cool with pirates as long as they're not faggots.
and i cant always buy the game i want from those freedom means NEVER being restricted or giving ANY thing up
Ryder Ross
>buying games to play them >buying games for your Youtube channel >buying games to play with your friends >buying games to get a game on [platform] >buying [Game 1] to make sure [Game 3] isn't like [Game 2]
>that little publisher defense there Nice try, faggot.
Isaac Lee
And none of the points in the OP are useful for protecting children and the mentally ill. Or for elevating games above Skinner boxes. In fact it does the opposite, because subscription-based games can make money without the need for microtransactions, so it makes no sense to boycott those instead of F2P games that cause far more harm.
Ryan White
>proving the comic right
Gabriel Sanders
>implying I'm even a pirate I don't need to be one to know that publishers fucking ruin everything
Tyler Parker
Subscription based model's sole aim is to take away the ownership of a product from the consumer. People like you need to die off but that's not going to happen; quite the opposite.
Brayden Ward
Tonight I'm going to buy a game on Steam only to spite OP. Is Zeroranger good?
user that you responded to here. That's the one part I disagree with besides "wasn't going to buy it is not a lost sale"
Jose Smith
I would say consumers allowed video games to get to this state, but it has ultimately always been the corporations
Joshua Sanchez
And the phone and cable companies
Colton Stewart
Imagine being so miserable and insufferable than a cartoon smile triggers you
Jayden Sanders
Tell me where I can buy Ace Combat 7 DRM free
Juan Richardson
dobson has no torso
Luis Gonzalez
>the existence of apples means that oranges will become extinct Retard.
Easton Gomez
>money goes to people who had nothing to do with making it Could you elaborate?
I genuinely believe big streamers hurt videogames as they mitigate a lot of damage a company will receive for making stupid decisions. Look at Kripp, hit livelihood is directly tied to hearthstone, and no matter how terrible a expansion is, he will defend it, influencing all that naive and manipulable playerbase.
Joshua Morgan
Hope someone sells you a license for seasonal use of orchard located on your property.
Ayden Nguyen
I dropped like 1000 bucks on video games over the years its not much but without me and others you wouldn't have anything to pirate
Jack Howard
Influencer model of business is where the marketing industry is going right now, from the reaction videos onwards.
Jose Garcia
Oh wow, thank you. I would totally buy that game that I pirated because I wasn't gonna buy it.
Juan Watson
For AAA games that is
Anthony Turner
Imagine being a proud wagecuck
Jose Lee
that's literally how it works, people get sued for stealing seeds all the time, and you can lose your farm if your shit isn't up to standard
Jaxson Kelly
There's nothing that can be done. I'd say hope for another crash, but looking at every other industry doing the exact same shit, I doubt it'll happen.
Easton Morris
Who stole what seeds? What standards? Fruit grows on trees.
Nathaniel Mitchell
Bitch aint got no legs
Cameron King
This. I've dropped more or less $2500 (I stopped pirating around 2011-2012)
Jordan Edwards
And people pretty much universally agree that Monsanto's policy of WE OWN THE CONCEPT OF PLANTS is fucking retarded.
Andrew, Son of Dob, Heir to the Throne of the Dobbish Dynasty.
Caleb Price
as we agree that not paying people when you use their product is retarded
Xavier Cox
no harm comes to the producer of digital goods via piracy. it does not equate a lost sale nor is it equal to a physical product.
Justin Murphy
>Reminder to pirate before you buy. Or just get a refund.
Christopher Wright
>it does not equate a lost sale Yes it does. >nor is it equal to a physical product Yes it is.
Nathan White
Feel free to back up those claims with facts. I know of a rather infamous EU study you would do well to read...
Levi Butler
Yes it does.
Yes it is.
Look, I stole your words! How much do you want to pay me to give them back?
Joseph Edwards
I see you gave up on defending subscriptions rather quickly.
Wyatt Long
>Reading this thread while both my OFW switch where I have easily bought 500CAD worth of games on sits on my stomach while my CFW vita with tons of piracy sits on my chest Feels weird man
Because there's literally no argument to be made against subscriptions other than "I don't like it and I'm worried that normal games will cease to exist because of it".
>it's not a fact that making a copy of something that costs money without paying for it is the same as stealing This is why I hate you piratefags, if you're going to steal, then just fucking steal. Stop trying to take the moral high ground.
What you're describing is plagiarism. And yes, plagiarism is wrong.
Asher Davis
What do you mean plagiarism? You can't plagiarise a car.
Elijah Green
>If I ignore any arguments and misuse the word "steal" enough times, I win! Absolutely BTFO, thanks for conceding.
Cameron Diaz
>compares piracy to stealing words (plagiarism) >backpedals after being reminded that plagiarism is a real thing bye
Jose Thomas
Name one argument that I ignored.
Ryan Powell
Tell that to Hyundai.
Bentley Lewis
It's weird how much incest porn there is of that show.
Luke Butler
Yes
Gavin Scott
O T H E R G A E M T H E R
G A E M
Grayson Harris
all of the day bro
Ian Stewart
the moment you realize dobson has jerked off to the Larkin love Power Girl video....
that piracy isn't stealing, per definition. Stealing is taking away someone's property, be it by physically taking it, restricting access to exclude the owner or similiar.
Piracy is Copyright Infringement, as you use the game (in this case) without being legally allowed to do so. You don't take away the gamefiles from the owner.
However, it WOULD be stealing if you'd go to the developer, take his drive with the game files and use it for yourself, but that's another level
Is Steam the reason why so many "gamers" today are tech illiterate that can't do anything or even play games without Steam doing everything for them?
Oliver Nguyen
>Reminder to pirate before you buy. No. I like not having russian spyware, cryptominers, and ransomware on my computer. If there was a website that has proven itself to be safe I could download pirated games from, like emuparadise or The Eye, I would without hesitation or any guilt. But no, you faggots expect me to put my whole computer at risk by directly downloading it from some random other asshole's computer through torrents.
Brandon Thompson
>what is igg
Camden Smith
>only people on Yea Forums think lying is a major business strategy for video games only
yeah, but you still get a big mac when you order one. If McD was run by any AAA studio, you could see an ad for a big mac, order a big mac, and end up with a cheeseburger
Ryder Collins
>pic But that's not lying, you get the exact same type of things with the one on the right as the one of the left. The only difference is that the one on the left is EXTREMELY carefully presented in a way to make it look like that, but the ingredients and the amount of them is the same.
Jack Thomas
>and the amount of them is the same No they aren't. Are you blind? Look how thin those patties are on the right.
I get the idea, but not your point. And what has Wiedźmin to do with anything?
Jayden Thompson
except that it's a nice example of actually showing the product.
Actually one of the few game series I actually bought w/o pirating beforehand
Carter Johnson
>If McD was run by any AAA studio, you could see an ad for a big mac, order a big mac, and end up with a cheeseburger you mean half a game from what was promised? its not new
