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He's half right. They changed a lot of shit ("it isn't classic") but part of what Classicfags actually want isn't there either (you can't relive the dynamic experience of vanilla by going back to a classic server, at least not in totality)

True. I hope this is the final nail in the blizzards coffin.

Good thing blizzard doesn't announce subscriber numbers anymore, so we'll never have to confirm it's failed.

Gamers are literally hitler

what is osrs

>wtf bros I'm not actually time-traveling back to 2005 when the economy was good and I was still 12

Classic doesn't have a future because neither it, nor anything short of godlike power, can offer what Classic players actually want

>yfw you didnt buy into "coming home" thing

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WoW Classic will kill any last hope the MMO genre had.

Yikes

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classic wont be the same without dedicated 16 to early 20 somethings autsitically playing the game and creating that homey feeling.

You'll never have some 40 rogue camping town for a month, and causing huge battles on the rooftops to occur. You'll group up for some boring vanilla quests and you'll quit by the time you're 20.

No one wants the actual game where 5% of the specs are viable.
No one who played back then today has the same amount of time to sit through the slow-ass leveling doing boring kill 10 reskinned bears all day. No one will find the premise of an MMO strange and mysterious again.
You will not relive your childhood playing it, you'll just get bored at level 27 and quit again to shitpost nonstop about it.

Runescapefags are based and always right though.

>thousands of people playing the free ghetto version of a game they're too poor to buy or subscribe

WoW killed the MMO genre, thinking Classic would save it was retarded

They dont want WoW Classic but they want the feeling behind it. Back in classic WoW there was a general sense of community where people helped each other and just had a fun time overall. I remember that I met one guy who had really awesome gear and I asked if I could try it on just to test damage for a bit and he actually gave it to me. After trying it out for a bit I simply gave it back to him and added him to the friends list. Nowadays nobody in their right mind would do that because most fuckface would simply log off with the gear and sell it away or some shit. I really wish that we could go back in time when actually decent people were playing games and not every second fuckface on this planet, but this shit is not coming back, which is just one of many reasons why I stopped playing mmos as a whole.

Basically this. Regardless of how different it is or how you can't go back to being naive, the people who held up WoW are normies who have since grown up or at least out of the MMO phase.

I want people to enjoy stuff because I'm not a miserable fag, but I really don't see how Classic will be able to keep people around after the initial hype. I don't think they can really go the Old School Runescape route and develop new content just for it since WoW is a story driven game with a main quest while Runescape is sandbox.


OSRS was dwindling before Jagex stopped listening to the community and started updating the game to be more than just old Runescape.

either he thinks its too hardcore and the QOL improvements since will have improved the game to such a degree that going back would ruin the experience which is retarded since wow classic is already a super casual mmo
or he thinks the game won't be the fucking game-changing cultural event it was 15 or so years ago in which case no fucking shit

...but wasn't it soulbound?

hes gonna see some people not liking it and ignore the people that do and say "SEE!"

It's an incredibly basic concept. I liked Vanilla a lot, I liked TBC a lot, but a little less than Vanilla. I fucking DESPISED WOTLK and everything that came after it, at an exponential rate of disgust. Now, WoW is being released as a version I previously enjoyed and miss playing. Thus I will play it. And I'm looking forward to the fact that is an official server and not a private server.

WoW isn't like any other video game you autistic fucking mongs. It's not like Halo or Dark Souls where if I don't like the sequels I can just throw an earlier game into the fucking disk drive. There is only current-WoW, and one may either play it or not. WoW classic solves this problem. Jesus Fucking Christ.

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Assumptions

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How to out yourself as a retard 101.
OS and rs3 are both f2p with membership and share the same membership. If you're members in one you're members in both.

What game was that. Because most MMOs have a soul bound style mechanic, you cant just give people the gear off your back.

He's right. It wasn't the game that people miss, it was that they were playing it with all their friends in high school, having LAN parties, and getting stoned. They think this will give them the nostalgia they crave, but the game itself was never good it was just the vehicle for the memories they actually value. Can't get those back or recapture them.

This is a stellar example of why you fake classic faggots are the worst.
Gear was soulbound.

>Stopped listening
>Every update is polled with 75% needed to pass

Lmao last time i tried wow again i think i may have actually quit at 29 or so.

Or he thinks it will be dead a month after launch because people want to relive the memory, not the game.

Flyff, but similar experiences in WoW just not with gear

>soul bound
Wanna know how I know that you never were there for the gold age of MMOs?

he's 100% correct, and I can't wait to watch the trainwreck.

t. Vanilla Naxx Raider

White gear too?

blizzard are such assholes it wouldn't surprise me if they just waited and waited until people lost interest in WoW at all before announcing this just to deliberately generate low interest and say "see you were all wrong and never wanted this"

Why do retailfags never want to talk about Nostalrius when discussing classic wow? The private server had 10k online at any given time and just kept growing and growing. The server kept crashing and lagging, it was overcrowded and not 100% vanilla, yet still people kept playing for one entire year before Blizzard shut it down. There is literally no reason a official wow classic server won’t succeed

how anyone could believe different is beyond me

>flyff

I tried getting back into this shit a few months ago and got to lvl 80 on a ringmaster and knight, but the fucking community was gone from back when I first got into it.

It's a damn shame. Flyff was fucking awesome and now look it... shit's dead.

white gear stopped being a staple item past level 5 when every quest item and crafted item could be green.

except gay LGBT event

>but part of what Classicfags actually want isn't there either
Because the entire demographic of MMO players has changed. MMOs at the time of vanilla WoW, FFXI, EQ, DAoC, were about player cooperation and coordination. There weren't wikis and datamining to make everything easily googleable and such. The sort of mindset that wants a deep social-oriented game is gone and replaced by people who want quick, satisfying pats on the back without having to talk to anyone outside of their discord friends.

no, just retarded

>polling events
Brainlet.

WoW was never good, it is a shit game that was responsible for killing MMO's, killing my favorite specifically Star Wars Galaxies, and for turning half my friends in high school into completely worthless faggots who stopped wanting to play fun games. But as someone who tried to get back his own nostalgia for SWG through the emulator, the guy in the OP pic is absolutely right. It won't be the same because they are nostalgic for the time and the community and who they were when they played it, not so much the gameplay as it was.

People want the community aspect. The actual game has been available via pservers for years and people tend to play them, then they shut down shortly after. They have no legs because people demand new content.

Same thing was said about runeshit too.

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Yeah, even private servers have more population than the official servers nowadays. It all started going downhill with V7. And introducing master was pretty much the end of it.

he's right you think you do but you dont rose tinted goggles nostalgia desu baka senpai desu desu desu

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>"gamers"
Opinion discarded, no buzzwords allowed.

Why, was soulbound not a thing in classic? I only played TBC and I was a kid, I don't remember a lot of it but I think stuff was soulbound there.

Most definitely true.
It's gonna be the same situation as Dark Souls Remastered, for a few weeks, maybe even a few months it will be very active, but ultimately people will realize that they've seen this shit before and gain nothing from it, ultimately shrinking both the community of Retail and Classic.

People jump servers because the prospective of F R E S H is higher than just doing the same thing over and over. If no new server was made, the servers would still be alive.

Classic WoW was indeed well-known for having “really awesome” white gear

then he's retarded

wow private servers have existed literally since TBC
there has and will always be both casual and hardcore interest for classic. The only correct prediction is that it'll be a booming start before waning out to a decently sized playerbase

best part of vanilla was ebin pranks
Like taking a hunter to noob zone, tame random level 1 creator and name it appropriately (i.e. lesser wolf) then use eye of the beast to run around and pretend to be a mob and confusing the hell out of noobs.
Or this
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>comparing a remake of a 7 years old game you could still play to a remake of a 15 years old game you couldn't play anymore
0 IQ

I played WoW from Vanilla until the end of WotLK
I'm also still playing video games

I guess I'm the target audience but I never played WoW Classic on private servers and I have no interest in this

>this post
TRUE
Gosh.. I wish I could get close to your bussy...

Wait you're not interested? Must mean Classic will fail

yeah the point your retarded ass is missing is that the community will be roughly the quality of the wow twitch community and nothing like the diverse community of vanilla that opened up so many different play options

yes the community bitched all the time about how they didn't want the game to be updated when OSRS was first released, how new are you? fucking look 2013 to 2015 during the whole "keep osrs pure" era then jagex put their foot down and decided to update the game

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>Nu-wowfags STILL seething

>meanwhile EQ2 progression servers have existed for decades and always found people that wanted to replay old content
Blizzard only has themselves to blame that they had no foresight to keep milestone versions around.

Gooks will still shit out MMOs
Westerners will still start kikestarters to release EA scams

pretty sure that's actually forced diversity

Guess will just ignore how popular vanilla private servers have been for like 5+ years. Those were all probably russian bots anyways.

that was free, wow classic is paid

old school runescape is one of the most popular mmos in the world, if wow classic fails something went wrong

Things don't need to be 100% the same just to compare certain aspects of them.

>Big spike when the GE was brought back
based jagex btfo the no update retards

50% will abandon the game the first hour after they realize it is literally unplayable without a ton of addons

Nostalgia fags are retarded if they think they can re-capture something of it's time and relive it again, It's like asking to experience being born again. That fag in the OP is correct, you're forever chasing rainbows and just can't learn to let go. I will enjoy disappointment and inevitable the "It's shit" posts that will be coming.

City of Heroes emulator was the fucking shit and it's surrounded by a constant swirl of discordtranny stupidity.
WoW Classic fails to enthuse me on any level. It was always a casualized EverQuest, it just got more and more and more casualized as time went by. Also more degenerate, why are all characters fat now?

>if wow classic fails something went wrong
considering they said they're doing cross realm bgs, they fucked it up now. all that effort only to completely fuck it up at the last minute, it deserves to fail now frankly regardless of how much i wanted to enjoy it

The Dungeon Finder is going to be Classic's Grand Exchange, you heard it here first.

I think the purists and faggots who say it wont work are missing the point. What OSRS did was go back to being "pure" and then evolved slowly in a radically different direction to what rs3 progressed to. New things would be good for classic as well after some time after release. It should focus on the good things that BC and even wotlk or cata gave while ignoring the catastrophic changes that gutted the sub numbers.

>considering they said they're doing cross realm bgs,
Where did they say that?

>we are going ho....

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its blizzard
soon they'll be writing up lore that all elves had both sets of junk from the very beginning

Fuck you. I missed that shit when they took it out.

Fucking this
It doesn't matter how 'classic' the experience is, it won't have what I'm looking for
>DPS lfg
>Hey bro we ran SM last week, I'll kick this scrub if you want in
>Discussing quests over zone chat, not just lol check the wiki
>Ally raid TM, gtfo
>people jelly of your purple even though the stats are shit
>Help a random priest with a tough mob, priest saves you from getting ganked 10 minutes later
I would love for that sense of community to come back, but like you said the mindset is so different that it's impossible without a serious evolution of the genre

>yfw you didn't buy into WoW at all

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I miss leveling my staff as a priest just because

Can confirm. SMT imagine online was peak comfy. I lend my newly released rare rifle to some people to test damage and in no moment I thought they could scam me. Because even if I didnt know them personally, ive seen them many times through Babel city. Great community.

That was like 15 years ago, and even to this day some people recognize my nametag in another games and greet me like if we were old neighbors meeting in another city.

That doesnt happen anymore. I blame voicechat clients.

>I can't wait to play wow class...

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>tfw leveling unarmed

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i know its retarded eceleb youtubers, but i saw an interview video tips put out with 2 of the dudes working on vanilla, they explicitly said they'll be doing cross realm bgs

youtube.com/watch?v=O3b423uqrdo

about 12 mins in

>I miss raiding with my warlo....

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>the vocal community thinks they make up a huge number of the majority because they're so vocal
>all the noise comes from an actually insignificant portion of the playerbase sitting in an echo chamber that gets REALLY loud
fuck the "community"

I was saving that one for tonight, thats a huge bummer tbqh...

Man I got friends trying to lay down the entire experience from 1 to 60. Some people fucking live this game.

>BOYS!!! WE ARE GOING HOM...

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>WoW is a story driven game with a main quest

Nope, Wow & TBC barely had a main story, it wasn't until Wrath that they introduced a main villain

Retailfags never cease to amaze

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It won't be the same as the vanilla community but it also wont be the same as the current wow community.

Community is largely a function of game design. Vanilla had a better community not only because the internet was different in 2004, but because the game design forced you to interact with other players more and in different ways.

>retailcucks trying to make Classic seem unappealing
>in the end just end up looking like casual retards once again

can they ever stop losing?

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>getting to max level and skilling all weapons on one of those perma-banished demons
truly home

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A non-issue, they barely cost anything and its not exactly hard to check to make sure you have enough before a raid. Also not like reagent venders are hard to find.
A reasonable annoyance, there really is no reason SS didn't stack
Fair enough, ST was pretty bad if you didn't have someone who knew the layout well and since it wasnt a max level dungeon the people who did know it leveled out of it quickly. But you could always just skip it since BRD was right around the corner.

SHUT THE FUCK UP IT DOESN'T HAVE A PERSISENT WORLD AND IF THERE'S SHARDING OR IF YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR BFA SUBSCRIPTION FOR A CHANCE TO PLAY THE BETA OR IT'S RELEASING AT THE END OF SUMMER OR ACTIBLIZZ LIED ABOUT SHARDING ONLY BEING DURING THE LAUNCH WEEK WE'RE GOING HOME OKAY WE WON WE GOT CLASSIC BASED BLIZZARD ALRIGHT JUST SHUT UP IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT I JUST GOT MY FUCKING COLLECTORS EDITION AND IM READY TO PLAY WOW OKAY JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP RIGHT NOW

It was also buggy, unstable, had massive issues like 10 foot pop in distance, had no advertising, you had to jump through hoops of pirating the game and modifying your game files to play on it (changing realmlist might as well be hacking to the average normo), couldnt be streamed/youtubed on threat of ban and was infested by chinks and ESL euros. It had way more disadvantages than advantages

Let go of it then and stop wishing that you can relive those memories because it's not happening. There is nothing that can made to revert your mindset to a past time when you were happier, it's gone. You can blame it the game or people playing as much as you like but the biggest problem is yourself. Some kid playing this game at the same point in life that you were then will experience it the much same way you did back then.

Oh look another literal who twitter screencap. Thanks user I upvoted this post.

wow I guess all these years playing on private servers were fake memories and i wasnt having any fun at all.

This. I mean look, of course some people will find it fun. But I think that a lot of people out there are hoping that WoW Classic will make them remember being a kid again

>retailtranny trying to make classic seem bad with the examples
>tfw it just makes it look better and more enjoyable
L M A O

t.

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old st is an adventure

i'm sure the fags that play pirate wow servers really don't want that experience despite all of the effort they put into trying to achieve it

Lol and classic will still have a higher player base than any other MMO.

>SHUT THE FUCK UP IT DOESN'T HAVE A PERSISENT WORLD
The fuck does this even mean
>THERE'S SHARDING
We've known there was gonna be sharding for a year friend, at least its confirmed it wont be ruining AQ/world bosses now
> IF YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR BFA SUBSCRIPTION FOR A CHANCE TO PLAY THE BETA
Are there actual retards crying about this lamo
> IT'S RELEASING AT THE END OF SUMMER
t. underaged b& with a summer vacation
>ACTIBLIZZ LIED ABOUT SHARDING ONLY BEING DURING THE LAUNCH WEEK
They told us sharding would only be during launch. We now know sharing will last "a few weeks to a month." Where's the lie?

>Vocal minority want Classic
>Blizzard give them what they want and they're happy
>Media will no doubt paint it as a disaster because there aren't 11 million players despite the core playerbase that wanted classic being happy
I know it's coming, I'm still going to be mad.

>Fair enough, ST was pretty bad if you didn't have someone who knew the layout well and since it wasnt a max level dungeon the people who did know it leveled out of it quickly. But you could always just skip it since BRD was right around the corner.
So ST was the Dark Souls of vanilla dungeons?

It was a great dungeon overall. I ran it too much because I liked it.

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>oh no how will I ever recover from losing 7 silver, oh wow fuck shit

>Some kid playing this game at the same point in life that you were then will experience it the much same way you did back then
>implying that kid won't just wiki fucking everything, powerlevel by guide, and only equip BiS from another guide
> You can blame it the game or people playing as much as you like but the biggest problem is yourself
The changes in the mmo community and internet in general have been listed multiple times in this thread. Choosing to ignore all of that is not my problem
>Let go of it then
I already did. I just come in these threads to read the cope like your post

I used to play Lineage 2 and it was the same way. There was a mechanic that, when you died, there was a chance to drop an item and anyone could pick it up. 9/10 times people would be there guarding your corpse when you got back and give the item to you. Dungeons weren't instanced, they were just massive sprawling things that multiple parties would go through at once. If you were struggling in a fight, another party would come bail you out and offer you some healing items and buffs. Instead of fast travel, you'd take lengthy boat rides and often the people on board would organize an impromptu tournament. People would create artwork painted using dropped items that anybody could pick up, but players would gather around and watch them work. Towns were filled with people actually hanging out and talking, and most of my time in the game was spent dicking around in starter zones getting nowhere but having a good time. Every day you'd make a new friend. Games don't work like that anymore. Everyone wants to be alone surrounded by everyone, and they're too eager to fuck each other over for minimal gains. It should have remained a niche hobby for nerds who got too invested.

Half right. I think there's definitely people out there that legitimately want it and will play it for quite some time. When people cite the player numbers from private servers though I just don't see it. Private servers are free and the sub fee for Classic alone is going to turn a chunk of people away immediately. This isn't inherently a problem as keeping out the BRs is a good idea.

However, after enough time it's really going to start dragging on people. People that weren't already on board for the true classic experience will not likely stick around long term. I think a good amount of people will also get tired of paying a sub fee for a game that never changes as development is part of the justification for sub fees. So then they hit a crossroads, do they keep it purely classic and unchanged or do they go the OSRS route and turn off the die hard classic fags?

More it was needlessly complicated and most people just didn’t care enough to learn it since it didn’t drop good loot and was not really good xp.

>because the game design forced you to interact with other players more and in different ways
This is probably the biggest thing to think about. It's why modern MMOs are so anti-community and impersonal. They're designed to be so solo friendly that they don't encourage interaction. If you encourage interaction people actually interact. Classic just has to not fuck that up and it will be able to coast along, even if it won't fully realize nostalgia.

I feel like Classic is just people trolling Blizzard to waste resources on something nobody actually wants.

Familiarity destroyed Wow. Once people figured the game out it became a lot smaller and transitioned from being an emergent, adventure game to being a systems game.

People are going to tear through the raids like a navy seal team with lazy like precision.

Don't care what normalfags do. I'm beating Nefarian this time.

What the fuck is your agenda? Just harvesting (You)s? Why are you coming in here with your objectively fake stories?

>post retailcucks
L M A O
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I've been saying this for a decade and I can't wait to be vindicated.

who?

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The normies will quit after a couple days, the casuals will quit before 60 and the nostalgia crowd won't see T1 content. There will be maybe a couple hundred players per region that actually like vanilla and stick with it. Which all in all amounts to roughly 10k players world wide, the same amount of people that have been playing vanilla for years.

Is there any beginner guide for new players when it comes to wow classic? I never played wow was only in the runescape scene

Absolutely based.
I've been saying this for months, the answer is always "hurr durr I'm already playing on private server so I know". Maybe so, but you are 0,001% of the playerbase, 99% eagerly waiting for WoW Classic absolutely has no idea what they are getting into and will drop it after a couple of weeks or at best after a month.

Dont know shit about runescape
What happend in 2018
chinks?

Runescape mobile, people can keep woodcutting while shitting now

>Justin Cuck
yea sure he is.

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IGN journo

They released it on phones.

>t. entered naxx once on his night elf hunter lěgōlãs, solo.

Soulbound was a thing in OG WoW.

It wasn't a thing during the golden age of MMOs, which ended when WoW came out and destroyed the genera.

I
CANNOT
WAIT
For WoW classic to come out, be huge as fuck, and blow all you retards and naysayers out of the water. You are all going to look back on this as that time you were absurdly wrong, and maybe you won't care much (after all, it's just random posts on Yea Forums) but thankfully, the people like the Twatter faggot in OP will have their name attached to their stupid as fuck predictions / opinions.

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Wiping 4 hours in a trash farm raid doesn't make you a naxx raider.

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>Old mechanics
>Old gameplay
>New things to do
I agree whit you
I want classic but it needs to offer more

...

The majority of people who still play OSRS never played prior to 2007 which is why its slowly becoming more like 2011 RS in everything but graphics

cross server queues and sharding will ruin all the things that were good about classic and you'll just be left with a broken unbalanced mmo

blizzard just can't help themselves from adding "QoL" changes. you will never play a 15 hour AV with and against all players from your server that you can encounter in the world.

home has burned to the ground. classic is the duplex they built on the plot of land

Why do people still say this when Nostalrius already proved them wrong years ago by becoming by far the largest private server that's ever existed, at least for WoW?

>Never played vanilla
>First priority is finding a guide
This shit right here is why classic will fail

>stating an opinion thats been stated by blizzard and god knows how many people since the early days of people asking for vanilla wow
>"prediction"

>can't wait to ding 60 so I can buy a faster mo....

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'layered' servers aren't what we think we want in the fucking first place

Being contrarian, sucking dev cock and shitting on gamers for clicks is the trend of vidya journalism.

I tried playing OSRS but it's just so shit I can't fucking do it,

Even when I was 12 and playing WoW I thought Runescape was awful and I still hate it.

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yikes Retail-fags keep telling yourselves this
You fuckers said the same thing about old school runescape and its now more popular than the new shit
there are literal 100,000+ that play on private servers everyday, and most people don't even know they exist

>9 days /played
>only level 40
>whirlwind SWORD
hahahahahaahahahhahahahhahaha

Yeah, no one would ever look for a guide in 2004 lmao!

>Miss playing with my hunter boys, we finally going hom...

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He's right, but there will still be a healthy population.

I can see 40k-50k playing consistantly easily.

Will it though? I thought no one gave a shit anymore and the "WoW Classic Waiting Room" was just a meme about how we're all waiting for the shitstorm around that.

>Vanilla had the best leveling experience, we are going ho...

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Watching the zoomer don't "get it" because it's a pure nostalgia bait is going to be more fun.

im gonna be so fucking happy when you nostalgia faggots get proven wrong and your game dies within a month

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I will laugh more if the game is still number 1 on twitch after one month retail cuck

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>The changes in the mmo community and internet in general have been listed multiple times in this thread. Choosing to ignore all of that is not my problem

Everything changes as time passes and is generational. You're just another "back in my day it was better" who looks at everything from the past with rose tinted glasses and conveniently ignores all the bad. I remember WoW coming out and everyone started playing it. A lot of people then were calling it a cancer with all the addicts level grinding 24/7 and Chinese gold farmers. I'm actually glad I missed it because I may have become another victim. A guy I worked with was an addict and he was living on 2-3 hours sleep because he played so much.

>I already did. I just come in these threads to read the cope like your post

Sure you did. In reality you were here to complain like most people on this board and want something that can't be obtained. I just hope that you still don't long for those "good old WoW days" once you hit 50.

"anything old and popular I don't like is just nostalgia and its actually garbage. The literal 10+ million people just didn't understand good gameplay"

Imagine thinking this

>zoomer detected

yup, it's going to be huge
as someone who's played on a vanilla private server recently, the original game is so much better than you think

sounds like every botw fan talking about zelda

>WE ARE GOING HOM...ZZZZZZZZzzzZZzzzzz

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Literally a great mechanic
Did some playing on a pvt server recently, I loved that entire aspect.

literally who?

god forbid people want a real rpg in their mmo instead of casual quality of life "this is an unfortunate part of the system" garbage

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Vanilla WoW was amazing, but this is still a nostalgia product. I know people who started playing during Wrath that won't "get" vanilla either.
>This? THIS is what you fags have been talking about for 15 years?

I'll still enjoy it though. And that's what matters.

>zzzz...zzz wake... me up... I can't... wake... up zzzzZZZzzzzzz

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>be me
>first time running MC
>super excited cause i love BRD.
>can;t wait to see what sick dwarf fortress is inside
>spend 6 hours in the most generic cave ever

certainly not their best work

Lmao all these salty retailfags
Why aren't you playing "of Warcraft" right now? Probably because it has no world anymore!

He's not
Blizzards wet dream is that Classic would bring back the WoW glory days, it wont, they know that and anything short of that might as well be nothing in their eyes, it will be just bunch of sad neckbeards holding on to nostalgia and everyone knows that too.
In short, it will succeed, but only for anyone that isnt Blizzard.

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>we are going h....

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How is this bad in any way?

Classicfags just want to relive in the year 2006. It will never be the same.

7 silver used to be a lot

GUYS I'M LITERALLY GOING TO CAUSE SO MUCH SHIT IN CLASSIC. I'M GOING TO MAKE BOTH HORDE AND ALLIANCE SUFFER. I'M GOING TO BE SO UNCONTROLLABLY NAUGHTY. I'M GOING TO BE LIKE CHAOS UNLEASHED. I'M GOING TO BE SO CHAOTIC THAT IF I ROLL PALADIN I'LL GET MY OWN EXCLUSIVE BUFF, BLESSING OF CHAOS. IT'S GOING TO BE INSANE MY DUDES. I'M COMING FOR YOU ALL. ALL OF YOU. THIS IS YOU, THIS IS MY IMPRESSION OF YOU

>oh dude I'm just playing comfy wow vanilla haha this is a good timooohhhnoooooooooo

AND THEN I JUST FUCKING KILL YOU. GO ON, RUN ALL THE WAY! GO ON! RUN BACK TO YOUR CORPSE! SEETHING AND CRYING ALL THE WAY! I AM GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST NAUGHTY TROUBLE MAKER OF THEM ALL! CHAOS. PURE, PURE CHAOS. I CAN'T KEEP IT IN ANYMORE. HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE. LAKESHIRE? MORE LIKE IT'S -FUCKED- SHIRE.
THE CROSS ROADS? MORE LIKE WE'RE FUCKED ROADS.

IMAGINE BEING YOU GUYS. IMAGINE ACTUALLY BEING YOU GUYS. -IMAGINE- ACTUALLY BEING YOU. HOLY FUCK. YOU'RE SO FUCKED. I AM GOING TO FUCK EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU, AT LEAST ONE. I'M ALREADY PRACTICALLY LEAKING CHAOTIC ENERGY. IF, and ONLY IF, you reply to this post BEFORE the THREAD DIES with "please god NO. PLEASE GOD NO" I MAY allow YOUR CHARACTER TO LIVE. WHO KNOWS! MAYBE I WILL! MAYBE I WON'T! I'M JUST TOOOOOO NAUGHTY! HEHEHEHEHEHE

I MAY GIVE YOU MY BLESSING, I MAY NOT. DEPENDS IF YOU'RE NAUGHTY ENOUGH. IMAGINE NOT BEING CHAOS PILLED IN 2019+ TAX. IMAGINE. I AM CHAOS. GOD I CAN FEEL IT. I CAN FEEL THE TURNING POINT. ENTIRE PEOPLE TURNING TO ANGER, HATE, AND CHAOS, FORMING ENTIRE RAIDS TO KILL ONE ANOTHER. I WILL WATCH, AS THOUSANDS DIE, THOUSANDS LAY WASTE TO EACH OTHER. TRUE. UNFILTERED, CHAOS.

HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE.

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wasnt there a really cheese way to level unarmed?

I haven't followed this does Classic mean everything that goes with it? Like hunters not being able to walk and shoot and have a deadzone? or Rogues and mages one-shot everything with the 2 trinkets? Like literally Classic Classic? Because WoWkids don't know shit about WoW and they won't like it.

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Why would anyone want to replay vanilla? Vanilla wow was dogshit, wow didn't become fun till TBC and peaked at Wotlk
>inb4 hurr wrath was casual because you didn't have to spend 3 weeks with a piss bottle to grind attunements
The only people who liked vanilla were everquest autists like Jeff Kaplan (who made overwatch)
The people clamoring for classic are literally subhuman

C O P E

>The private server had 10k online at any given time
50% of them were gold farmers

It's version 1.12 emulated on the BfA engine

>wasting time in MC
farm trash on your own time for BoE's
real niggas crush content
youtu.be/vxdbQ2mgUfQ

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>Everything changes as time passes and is generational.
I'm not debating that. It takes a complete retard, or child who literally doesn't know any better to not realize that the bet impact of these changes on the mmo community has been negative
>who looks at everything from the past with rose tinted glasses and conveniently ignores all the bad.
I never said everything was perfect back in the day. Stop strawmanning.
>People played it so much that some considered it an addiction
Not doing your 'everything is better now' argument any favors. And WoW was by no means the first game where that behavior was observed, kid.
>I already did. I just come in these threads to read the cope like your post
>Even now cope
>I just hope that you still don't long for those 'good old days'
There's a difference between waxing nostalgic and going full Al Bundy
You'll be saying the same thing about fidget spinners and fortnite when you grow up.
Oh yeah, Al Bundy was a character on a popular '90s sitcom who would frequently reminisce about his glory days in high school in order to compensate for the failure that his life has become.
Thought I'd save you the Google search. Pay it forward

>someone misgenders the healer, and the healer leaves
>someone trolls the raid and pulls the boss while the rl is explaining shit
>dps keeps dueling other dps then leaves because he keeps losing to duels and thinks the others are cheating
>ninja looting

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>Legion baby trying to fit in

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we're getting 1.12 balance. rogues and mages will not be one shotting anyone. seal fate rogues maybe could two shot clothies if they get lucky on their crits

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If you call walking around in the starting area punching shit cheesy, then yes.

>Wasting time in MC
You know that you still have to kill trash if you do MC normally right

aren't these the same retards that want easy mode in dark souls / sekiro? lmao. their opinion means absolutely nothing.

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>implying anyone will play classic for more than a month

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MC is fun and only takes 40 minutes to clear

>seal fate rogues maybe could two shot clothies if they get lucky on their crits
And Raggy dagger, right?

>normally
>not skipping everything you can and downing bosses
lets be honest here, you're really just going for boss loot

based and truthpilled
can't wait to see the classicbabs tears in september/october, what excuses will they find

and they are slowly ruining the game again their reddit player base is just too stupid to realize it

>girl

I'm glad that unplayable waste of time was never my home

SHUT THE FUCK UP RETAILKEK

VANILLA WILL BE GREAT AND WILL BE BETTER THAN THAN BFA

KILL YOURSELF

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Say that to Oldschool Runescape you fucktard.

you don't want classic back
you want 2004 back

be honest with yourself

>But I think that a lot of people out there are hoping that WoW Classic will make them remember being a kid again
The language people use when describing WoW Classic makes me really think it's more of this than the other thing. The constant statements of "we're going home" or "just like the good old days" makes me really think the vast majority of players want Classic because they want to recapture their childhood playing WoW.

>there was a general sense of community where people helped each other and just had a fun time overall.

I had this experience back on 2016 when I played legion.

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>skipping everything you can
user you still have to fight trash, they even do it in the speedrun

I will never forget our first pull, we ran straight back outside. It was the shortest offense in the history of mankind.

based

Progression servers are a popular in EverQuest, there's no reason they wouldn't work in WoW as well.

Only a scrub heal doesn't like this. What's the matter son, too deep for you?

I for myself want Wotlk back it was the best expansion hands down anyone that says otherwise doesn't know shit. Every single class was simply fucking awesome + the best raids.

Yeah here it is:
If you want to tank click Warrior.
If you want to damage click Warrior/Rogue/Mage/Warlock/Hunter.
If you want to heal click Druid/Priest/Paladin/Shaman.

Notes:
Don't click Warrior if you aren't willing to tank when needed.
Druid can tank as bear, but there are a lot of asterisks and side notes. A beginner should just go Warrior instead. Essentially they have good threat, and okay defenses.
Hunter doesn't do great damage, but you still bring one or two.
Druids aren't highly sought after compared to other healers.
If you don't bother with raiding you can do whatever you want, but don't feel entitled to invites when playing a 'Tank' Paladin or 'DPS' Shaman.

When you pick a class be at peace with its core role/playstyle. The most tears shed in Classic WoW are from people who picked Druid thinking they are going to cast as well as a Mage, heal as well as a Priest, DPS as well as a Rogue, and tank as well as a Warrior. Modern WoW actually lets people do this, in Classic WoW there is a hybrid tax.

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Go home.

Why can't WoWcucks just accept that their game is dead and stop playing it? FFXI chads dropped the game when it was ruined, and even bullied the successor so hard that Squenix were forced to remake it from scratch only for them to not play it anyway because they knew it'd still be shit. It's really sad seeing you be pushed around and then paying up for whatever scraps you're given because you're unable to let go.

screencapping for tranny asshurt when classic is thriving a month after launch

>customer asks for X
>NO YOU DON'T WANT X
Only in the video game industry lmao

>gamers
Why is it that the only people who unironically use this term tend to be 30 something numales and journalists?
Similar to the "incel" and "have sex" meme, its extremely cringe inducing

You're simplifying the argument.

>Customer wants to go on the teacup ride
>Employee warns them it's a ride for children
>Customer insists they want to go on the ride because they loved it as a kid
>Customer goes on teacup ride
>Customer hates it

The feeling of Classic wow is of course a factor but where does this feeling come from?It's because it's when WoW still was the World of Warcraft, with open PVP and adventuring to dungeones/raids. It means we can get that back.

All the private server esports fags will drop it and then it will serve out its true purpose as being a living museum, with actual new players experiencing the game together for the first time.

There have been literally more people playing classic servers than retail for 2 years now you fucking Blizzshill

>wow classic is for children
lmao that's why retail zoomers are seething about the "ridiculous grind"? Shit analogy.

I'd honestly bet 10$ this Justin fella doesn't know what a private server is

>Hunter doesn't do great damage, but you still bring one or two
>I don't know shit about anything.

>don't pick a hybrid because you'll be subpar
Great advice

Employee still gets paid.
Thats all that matters here.

And what's the average age of those people playing Classic servers?

That's because what you call "the community" changed over time. The main playerbase of OSRS was initially people who loved RS2. But then it got slowly replaced by RS3 refugees who immediately demanded RS3-style content. I don't give two shits about player counts (which are inflated by bots anyway)

I'm just waiting for someone to tie Classic to Trump somehow.

unfortunately I don't think we'll ever really experience the feeling of classic WoW until we get a Ready Player One tier virtual reality MMORPG

...but more than likely we'll all be dead in the climate change induced resource wars by then

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Hunters barely compete with warriors auto-attacking past MC

Crit Crossbow hunters would want a word with you.

WoW addiction rotted many brains. Pray for those souls that cannot let go of the past for they will forever be chasing that high.

>vanilla was hard, there was so much spells not like nu-WoW!
>*uses the same 2 spells to kill the last boss from a raid*
youtube.com/watch?v=Br1hXGXJ7Tg

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Is there any other form of entertainment where open contempt for your customer is as accepted as in video games?

You don't want the clean Patchwerk damage results either, nigger. The truth isn't here to massage your prostate.

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Easy
>classic bad
>orange man bad
>classic equals orange man
>orange man is literally Hitler
>classic is literally Nazi Germany
How does it feel knowing that every classic MC run is the equivalent of cremating 6 million people?

I can see people going "Why pay 15 a month when I can play it for FREE somewhere else?"

it’ll probably get a decent profit that justifies the attempt, but not as huge as classicfags want to believe

No one really plays MMOs anymore, because they don't group up because they just do their little gay shitty friend circles on discord.

>still chasing that high
>to this day

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Its true you cant go back

tfw finally figured out why I always chose a female avatar

15 years too late

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wtf I want to chop off my dick now

Or conversely
>classic good
>orange man good
>Make Azeroth Great Again

Autism

>wanting to fuck your female character makes you trans
That makes no goddamn sense.

is this concurrent players?

They think it's impossible to create a character that isn't a self insert, therefore making a female character means that you secretly want to be female.
Wanting to fuck your male character means you're cis. Gay, but cis

Blizzard could have given us classic when people asked for it and I would play it. Now, I've had my fill on private servers, so Blizz can rot for all I care

do you like sex?
well you're a tranny faggot gender non-binary
you just don;t realize it cause you've been conditioned
you'd know this if you were college educated

Let's ask this: Will this have Barrens Chat As I Remembered It(tm)? If not, then it's not true classic WoW and it can go fuck off.

yes

its going to be glorious

That would be a truly open world Pokemon

>Will this have Barrens Chat As I Remembered It
Yea Forumsarrens was never good
That said, no, it'll be shit even by those standards. Imagine a bunch of ledditors pretending they were around in '04 and trying to gatekeep what's said.
Now imagine people taking them seriously. Welcome to Classic Barrens Chat™

>I remember doing this fun thing in wow
>how could you, the mechanics prevented it
>starts talking about other games entirely
>uses that to explain why that fun thing in wow was never fun to begin with

Not a smart lad.

I actually had no urge to play classic until I looked at this

>Will this have Barrens Chat As I Remembered It(tm)?
If you type anything in chat that isn't a strict trading macro, or LFG message you're running the risk of being right click reported by some tranny and their clique.

it's more like chasing nostalgia and not being able to recapture the magic than not wanting it outright

You know what, jew?
Fuck you.
MAGA.
A
G
A.

True most vanilla fags are just chasing childhood memories

Nailed it. Those players moved on from MMOs or are playing super casually at this point. Also a lot of players that play MMOs nowadays don't care for social aspects unless it's showing off their transmogs/pets/achievements. I'm always happy when people chat in duty finder in FFXIV, but for the most part they just wanna get it over with so they can ask in whatever is the afk zone that expansion

Most vanilla fags just want an actual MMORPG. You know, where the community and your guild actually matters.

I guess you'll have to make the choice in whether to burn that 7 silver on a Rez to turn the tides of a rough battle or call a wipe, huh.

90% bots

classic won't fix this. Nothing in the year 2019 can.

This reminds me of something.

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>The FFXI wars of Gamefaqs vs Allah
All these retail fucks are just making me more nostalgic of the good times

He's right. The thing that made Classic, Classic, was the fact I was a naive kid experiencing it for the first time with other naive kids doing the same thing. I used to just talk to random cunts in the world and do pointless shit, going back to classic isn't going to change me into a person who'll start doing that again.

>if i like women i want to cut my genitals off
Trump 2020.

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This.
Not a single people on earth wants to play WoW.

Obviously he's doing some shilling for Blizzard. For them to accept the fact that they were making shit for the past 10 years is really damaging to a company. Now that WoW is completely dry they can make a quick cash grab and sabotage it to shit just to prove their point. Not that they needed though, there is not enough talent to make a good game in the first place.

There is a big difference between "gamers" and "mmofags".

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>t.naxx raider

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Did they release it yet? I think RDR2 is a better example because it’s bloated and the survival mechanics ruin the experience it’s more like simulator than a fun cowboy shooter like RDR was.

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You will when they take it down blizzard boy! Seriously what is next got blizzard overwatch 2? Also they ruined Diablo with the mobile gayming thing.

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Is this near perfect time to play WoW for someone who has never played it?

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Gamer is a slur

I genuinely think WoW classic will be a mistake. It was a game of its time

Exactly lol. This Justin Davis twat is going to get BTFO

Sure it was a lot at like level 10, but you get a lot more than 7 silver's worth of crap on average for looting a single corpse at 60.

To be fair they literally made molten core in a week

>The majority of people who still play OSRS never played prior to 2007

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Who's he?
how's his opinion more valuable than the one of anyone here?

I can't tell, is he talking about classic being a huge success because retail has been catering to whichever casuals complain the most for over a decade?
Because turning your adventurous rpg into a convenient boring railroad where nothing matters in the long run seems like a perfect example of ruining a game by catering to the loudest minority.
Classic will be a great example of what game elements you need and cant simplify too much in order to have an adventure.
Of course, casuals say they want an adventure but then demand being teleported and lead around on a leash like a fucking helpless dog.
If you want to enjoy classic don't install quest arrows.

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Because retail fags have no good arguments.
The ones that aren't blatant shitposts always say shit like:
>muh viable raiding specs
>class balance
>muh conveniences that I cant live without
>its just nostalgia guys, people don't like old things!

These filthy casuals can't comprehend that a more difficult game is more engaging. In an MMO this also means you are more likely to give a shit about teaming up and coordinating.
A good MMO RPG should make you feel wanted by someone because of the RPG aspects and what you can provide for other players.

They've done unpolled updates to areas before and they're going to do more as stated in the most recent blog post, including making one of the members skills available for F2P and giving them exclusive weapons to incentivize mobile babbies to keep playing

they're also remodeling and designing all the elf content even though that wasn't polled but it doesn't matter since OSRS players only care about training combat stats and watching damage numbers go up

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Classic is going to be really popular for the first two months, then it will probably die off.
I hope it survives like osrs.

God what a fucking disappointment, the worst part of the first game was doing chores.

My biggest complaint in all of this is August 27th being the release date. Literally why? At least doing it right around this point would make it so you could have a sudden boost in subs during the summer and get plenty of kids and collegekids playing the game on top of all the 30 year old boomers.

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I fucking love the teacup ride, they exist to be abused by adult strength

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I've been saying this for fucking ages.

For once, blizzard was right with the, "You think you do, but you don't." line. Vanilla will be just that. Hype FotM for a bit then dead because no new or unique updates to keep it worth subbing for.

Das it mane

Nah, he ain't right. We're coming home..

Basically what these people want is to go back in time to when people were slightly different than they are now. That's not happening. The world is getting shittier with each passing year, and it's going to continue to get worse so long as (((they))) hold the power.

MoP had better raids mechanically, best trinket in the game with Assurance of Consequence

We've been lost in the veil, for god knows how many years? Has it been 10 years? 15 years? Heck, it may have been 20 years. Time does not matter anymore. We're going homeb oys and there is nothing that can stop us.

I was 13 years old when the World of Warcraft alpha leaked and i played that shit to death. There are people right here, right now on my board who were not even born when WoW was released and they are still allowed to post here. Imagine that. Just imagine how times have shifted. I am now an old man and a new generation is coming.

WoW 2004 is awful, unbalanced and unfun to play

Expect the servers to be empty and closed once the final phase is released

It will be shit after 3 weeks of play, but those ffirst 3 weeks will be pure magic I guarantee this

This is the real rub. My nostalgia games are JSRF and Sonic Heroes. If I want to relive that I just have to pop it in the console.
People who's childhoods were Classic WoW literally had zero way to play it again, and anytime they tried it got taken down. Thats really why they campaigned so hard, imagine if someone took away the game you used to love to play cause it was "too old"

Classic may be back but internet is totally different now, with all the secrets out and people using alternative things like discord over ingame chat. It'll be interesting to see how things pan out.