>2019 and still no trackball controllers
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2019 and still no trackball controllers
Robert Thompson
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Jaxon Ward
Except trackball controllers were given a shot in the early 2000's, companies realized no one wanted them because they were shit.
Connor Cook
>no one wanted them because they were shit
No they didn't and the only time trackball controllers were used was before they had any application because games were 2d. 3d games have necessitated the need for better camera control. Analog sticks are insufficient for controlling camera movement. Trackballs are superior.
Jacob Lee
>No they didn't and the only time trackball controllers were used was before they had any application because games were 2d
Hello zoomer, trackball controllers were a thing in 2003, they were being pushed on PC and had compatibility with Quake and Unreal Tournament, people did not adopt the idea and left it to rot.
Parker Rivera
I think you're talking about a trackball mouse. And yes they were adopted by the PC gaming community but the mouse is superior. I don't dispute this fact. Mouse is superior to trackball mouse. But trackball controller is superior in gamepad form factor.
Mason Reyes
>on PC
Why would you use anything other tham kb+m for PC shooters?
It's the consoles where they would make a difference. Just like gyro controls.
Bentley Cook
holy crap louis, it's sans undertales
Christopher Green
Shooters aren't the only type of games that use camera controls. A lot of 3rd person games are more comfy to play with a controller but analog sticks suck dick. Also consider a game like GTA where it's better to drive with a gamepad but shoot with a mouse. Trackball controller would be perfect for this.
Asher Stewart
Trackball controllers are superior.
Here's a master thesis to prove it,
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Cooper Carter
>Mouse is superior to trackball mouse.
Bullshit, except for a couple of applications trackballs bends the mouse over and fucks it right in its tight lazer-hole.
Jason Martinez
Steam Controller exists, user.
Jaxson Cooper
>>>>PC
literally illiterate
Carter Brown
I have one. It's the worst controller I have ever used bar none. I'd rather use a 3rd party NES gamepad than it.
I'd agree with you in some lines of reasoning but the fact of the matter is mouse was adopted because it's easier for the vast majority to acclimate to it compared to trackball mouse.
Ryder Nelson
>mouse and keyboard are superior
FTFY
Wyatt Martin
Not in games where you drive + shoot.
Not in games like Dark Souls.
Not in any game where camera control is secondary to movement.
>some other dimensional plane of existence is enjoying the "other" steam controller prototype while we're eating their scraps with an inferior trackpad
just lol
Colton King
in dark souls kb+m sucks only because it's crappy console port
Nolan Roberts
>3d games have necessitated the need for better camera control
what is a mouse
Jonathan Anderson
No it's because mouse isn't required to play the game at a top level and controllers are more comfy.
Yes but then there are in between instances where you'd benefit from superior camera control but benefit even more from using a controller. Why not both? Trackball controller. Mouse doesn't satisfy this role. What if I want to sit on my couch with a gamepad and play keyboard+mouse games? Trackball controller would be vastly superior. Sorry no Steam Controller fucking sucks ass and is in no way a suitable replacement for a trackball.
Ethan Reyes
Did you know that in competitive Trackmania, some players use keyboard even at the highest level?
Samuel Lewis
>comfy
using analog is more comfy then twirling around big ball of trackpad; no argument
Charles Nguyen
Did you know that WASD only provides 4 directions of movement no matter how hard some asspie tries?
Colton Myers
Getting your assraped by a mouse is in no way comfy while using an analog stick. It's possible to become equally skilled as a mouse user with a trackball. That will never ever happen with an analog stick. You will only be good against shitty mouse users. A top tier analog stick user will never compete with a top tier mouse user. A top tier trackball user will be competitive with a top tier mouse user.
Logan Campbell
I came into this thread to laugh at you.
Elijah Diaz
name one pro FPS player that uses trackball
oh wait they don't exists because the jews
Bentley Brown
They achieve less than full turns by tapping their steering keys in different frequencies. And yet, these players compete for top positions on an equal footing with pad players. Being a pad player myself I don't understand it, but there it is.
Jonathan Jenkins
Given that trackballs are incredibly obscure it's amazing that you can indeed find a history of competitive FPS players using them. The Quake 3 player and modder Own-Age is a lifelong trackball Quaker. The yter "MetalSlug" has hundreds, possibly thousands of vids stomping everyone in FPS games. As seen here,
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There's also a pro LoL player named Kerp who uses a trackball. Given the obscurity of the devices relative to mouse I find it impressive the fact you can indeed find players reaching mouse parity with trackball and at a top level.
Who are the top 10 players in trackmania and how many of them use keyboard? And where is the proof?
Brandon Sullivan
i said fps pro, not assfaggots or some guy stomping casuals in call a duddy 185
Jayden Walker
Here's a still from last year's offline finals in France. I do not have data on the preferences of all players, I only know these keyboard people exist.
Nicholas Harris
I've also been made aware there's a top level uk Overwatch pro player named Zerggy who uses trackball.
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Nolan Gutierrez
I posted own-age
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Also 99% of mouse users could not do what that guy did.
Also see
Isaiah Johnson
>overwatch
you're not helping your case
sage
Gabriel Adams
That's really...interesting...but the fact of the matter is keyboard is inferior to stick, literally. They're competitive in spite of a handicap.
Robert Gutierrez
It's not my case dipshit. I don't even care about competitive FPS games on PC. You're the one who insists on making an issue of this. Makes no difference to me whatsoever.
Liam Phillips
dilate
Julian Roberts
You sound like a retard btw
Oliver Davis
I did know that myself, it was common back in the days. Trackmania United Forever was fucking awesome.
Lincoln Butler
Mouse carries the entire thing, keyboard is shit. If more games supported mouse and controller keyboard would be obsoleted for gaming now.
Asher Davis
Use Steam Controller, it's awesome.
Kevin Thompson
In terms of purely mechanical aiming skill overwatch is no different from other shooters.
Matthew Wright
I'd literally rather use a finely tuned analog stick than a trackpad.
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Samuel Adams
It has gyro too. Trackpad + Gyro is awesome.
Nicholas Bell
The gyro on it sucks dick and suffers from drift. Also using an entire gamepad with two hands to aim gyro is the least intuitive thing ever invented. No thanks it's not awesome.