So

I never said it was good.

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>game sell 50x less than on steam
>seeing steam games succeed
Imagine being this delusional over a fucking launcher.

>just bunch of copies of games you can already get on steam
epic indeed

I played dauntless during alpha, beta, and like a month ago. It never got better and feels super fuckin floaty despite having slow clunky animations

>bloodlines 2
>cp2077
>bannerlord
>master chief collection
>dorf fort
just to name a few

I don't know and I don't care since I don't actually buy games. Now if I did actually buy a game for its online play, you can be sure that I will buy it on the cheapest, most sketchiest pos website possible. Fuck devs, fuck game companies and fuck stores

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Reminder, none of the GotY contenders are on eggs.

Inb4 it gets successful like Warframe did and you get BTFO

>What games are actually coming to Steam?
The one that Dauntless tried to rip-off.

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I'm not touching those games on any launcher. I don't even want to pirate this shovelware.

/thread

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>Based
And fuck those faggot youtubers telling people not to pirate
>We need to show the companies [that spit in our fucking faces daily] that we're the good goys who actually pay for their shity games. But we're not shills because we still talk shit about them.
I don't even pirate [ Not because I want to support any faggot devs/publishers, but because the games are already free ]

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The lower cut Epic takes is only really a selling point to the big devs.
Most indie devs don't give a shit about how much steam takes. The reason they are all starting to go with Epic is because Epic pays them a lot of money for getting their game exclusively on their launcher. If you're a small dev team and someone offers to fund your entire game you'd be a fucking retard to think "but what about muh pc gamers? They don't want another launcher".

The arguement of "well no one will buy it if no one installs the launcher" doesn't even apply since they already have the massive install base of fortnite players.

good ones

lmao you wish

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Aren't all their exclusives timed? Don't they all just release a year later on gog and steam?

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Pirate AAAs all you like but pirating indie games? Really?

Yea but what mongloid is going to live in a self-imposed delay of a year to play games rather than just buy them on epic?

I'm willing to throw shekels at the good indie dev guys. After I'm already pirated or played their product.
>Example: I pirated Factorio before I bought it
But I will not pay 60$+ for a AAA game.

mongoloids with plenty of games that's also a turbo kike waiting for sale

The shills seething at the successes they can't buy.
While all this shit is going on, claiming good games get ignored with valves open system; RoR2 and Mordhau release to huge success with almost no advertising.
Indie devs that know they have a generic game will happily take the Fortnite cash because they won't see as much money in the more open marketplace on Steam.
There is a reason devs are taking more about the cut making it more fair and not the check that gets cashed all while not offering anything better to the consumer, and actually offering a worse service.

Nice try, Timmy.

yes of course.
if an indie developer really thinks he can make decisions which are directed against its own audience he has to suffer the consequences

Sounds like you've got someone very specifc in mind, unless you think charging money for something you've made is "against its own audience"

it goes way beyond just charging your customers money for something you made

charge money as much as you want
but everything beyond that you should cater to your audience and listen to what they want and not what you and only you want them to do in order use that software you made

That sucks for those looking forward to them, but I have zero interest in those games. All look like trash.

>Buy them
Oh fuck that's a good one.

Neither did he

>Epic's most successful game is World War Z, a popular movie tie in that only sold 250k copies
>Literal who indie games like Risk of Rain 2 easily sell a million copies on Steam
Why is Epic supposed to be a threat again?

Because they hire people to tell you it is.
And journalists are getting paid/have a personal vendetta against Steam for not bending the knee and tossing every game that twists their cunt hairs in a knot

I have about 6 games on my wishlist that I'm looking forward to their launch on steam. So far the only game Epic snatched that I actually cared about was Phoenix Point but I haven't even played XCOM 2 WOTC so I have no problems waiting for the steam launch+sale.

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So what happened to this promise?
pcgamer.com/the-epic-store-wont-accept-crappy-games-says-ceo-tim-sweeney/

Thank god Epic is footing the bill, can't wait to pirate Outer Wilds.
The rest look like shit, won't even bother pirating.

>4 games i wasnt gonna play anyway
cool

>What games are actually coming to Steam?
youtube.com/watch?v=e502S5QNylE

>Dauntless
It's free to play though, why would they bother putting it in a store?

I was destroyed the moment he said it.

That very notion goes against artistic integrity itself, user. Can't say I agree. A developer should be free to make the game they personally want, even if it's hot garbage.

Now, being gigantic assholes to your customers when they're unhappy with these changes is a totally different story.

Fuck indie devs the most.
Slimy faggots can get bent.

I doubt that. I got several emails from them begging me to play it because it's free. Only because I played the beta for a few hours

this chink vs mutt war is fucking delicious

steam aint worth defending. its actually worth nothing for most gamers and young ones who dont have games on the shit site. also they censor japanese games like snoy, and wont ever change their SJW policies.

chinks should destroy the american industry being fucking half-arsed garbage and only pandering to amerimutts.

Based and Chiefpilled

Dauntless is just Monster Hunter for braindead idiots.

Doubt it.
The only gimmick it had was that it was the closest thing to Monster Hunter on PC.
The moment MHW's PC port was announced, it was doomed.

>What games are actually coming to Steam?
Who cares, they'll be coming to Pirate Bay.

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the ones people want to play

The picture is pretty on point.

Dude. Is this Loss? Holy shit...

Nah.
I played it during the beta for like 2 hours and it sucked ass, literally the only appeal it had was being a MonHun-like game on PC (albeit a shitty imitation) and now it doesn't even have that.

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Do you actually still use PB?

Japanese games
Epic I guarantee wants nothing to do with them, and Japanese developers are too skeptical to put their games on anything but Steam. There’s a good reason all the major Japanese titles so far this year have been Steam, and why all upcoming titles seen Steam. I’m not talking about dumb hentai VNs, I’m talking stuff like RE2R, DMCV, and upcoming games like Code Vein. Jap devs and publishers probably see Tencent pulling the strings and their Chinese hatred boils in their blood, and Tim Sweeney probably sees anything made in Japan as “shitty porn games”
Capcom is back and I can just pirate Outer Worlds (and it’s eventually coming to steam so I’ll buy it when that happens).

Why wouldn't I?
Unlike all other trackers, it never dies and has everything I want.

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Private Trackers exist my dude.

>2011
>using public trackers

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So what? Private trackers are public trackers + more fucking rules, and they die every few years, making every torrent on it die forever.

Public is better on every front.

what's wrong with a public tracker?

>dauntless
Isn't that one f2p on top of already having its own client?

Private Trackers have more content and don’t require you to go through dumb bullshit, there’s tons of stuff you will NEVER find on regular Trackers. Hell im on a Private tracker for Japanese music and I have never found a single thing I’ve gotten from there on any public tracker out there

Imagine being a buyfag and fighting for your favorite DRM

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all of those games are complete trash
have you actually seen them, they're awful

>PCgaming dies in the early 2000's
>Delusional newfags don't think so
>Download Steam, thus supporting the concept of useless middleware
>years later there are about a dozen of middleware programs you must use to play most games
>another one shows up
>newfags are mad NOW
?????????
You supported cancer and the death of your own platform ~15years ago, why bitch about it now?

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More content, and you’re intended to actually seed files so there’s no chance you’ll come across a file with no seeders, which happens all the time on public Trackers because people just leech and delete.

>Private Trackers don’t require you to go through dumb bullshit
What dumb bullshit? Private trackers ARE those that make me go through dumb bullshit to download a torrent.

It's been run by the international po-po for years user, you use utorrent too? That's fucked up

Love all these delusional scenarios you Steam drones come up with.

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>forced to seed
>dies anyways taking torrents with it
>have to find a new one again
There's no downside to using PB as long as you know how to avoid obvious traps and don't live in a country where your goverment spies on you 24/7.

Epic Store is the best thing that has happened to Steam. They keep filtering all the trash.

I can't decide if you're serious or not. Here's a (you).

So what you're saying is that some dedicated e-peen uploaders upload on private trackers, and when the website goes down (they always do), it's lost forever.

Why not simply upload it on public trackers too? Those cunts just want attention. I uploaded stuff years ago on public trackers (TPB and nyaa) and I still seed it with my server.

None. Suck that chinese cock.

Love how you Epicdrones see proven facts as delusional.

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Warframe has soul, and Dauntless does not.

i dont think yuros will keep pirating after article 13 or some shit is enforced

>make an acc
>download stuff you want
room temperature IQ

> don’t have to hunt around for a safe torrent
>don’t have to hunt around for a version of that file that actually has seeders
>have a community built around it that helps each other find content and incentivizes it
>kicks selfish shitheads who don’t seed

>There's no downside to using PB as long as you know how to avoid obvious traps and don't live in a country where your goverment spies on you 24/7.
This.

On the RARE cases I need something that is not on a public tracker, I simply find it on private tracker, then upload it on a public one.

I actually want content to survive.

>my face when epic games store will never ever have succubus
store.steampowered.com/app/985830/SUCCUBUS/

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I mean, even if games that interested me were exclusive to Epic's game store, why would that prevent me from pirating them? I do the same with Steam stuff.

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Portugal here. Nothing stopping from pirating

It will take years and years. It's a bureaucracy.
Also, we have VPNs.

It’s nothing to do with E-peen, it’s literally that they don’t want people to just leech and fuck off and they want to incentivize people to get and upload more obscure content.

Who gives a fuck about that shit. If you're pirating without a VPN you're retarded anyways

Will this actually be decent? Agony was boring as sin.

Yeah I'm definitely the delusional one here, as we can all plainly see the failure of games on EGS has devs running away from it in droves, right?

Also I like how you Steam drones trying to pass off as le pirate master race can't stop yourself from sucking Gabe's dick and outing yourselves.

So you're a bunch of elitist cunts that are too retarded to know how to see if a torrent is safe or not.

You don't give a fuck about the content and future pirates, do you, you just want to be part of a sekret klub.
I will keep downloading stuff from your shitty trackers and upload it on public trackers. Can't want for your particular website to die within a few years, like they always do.

>Dauntless: DOA
>John Wicke: DOA
>Ghost Recon: Ubisoft tactic to push more people to purchase on their own storefront for 100% profits
>Outer Worlds: Will be and sell mediocre

>If you're pirating without a VPN you're retarded anyways
Been pirating for almost 2 decades without VPN. Literally nothing has ever happened to me.

What's the point when everything is lost every few years anyway since the website closes?

I can download something from 15 years ago on TPB.

Only one of those I kinda care about is Breakpoint and that one can be gotten through the uplay store. All the rest, if I really want them I'll either wait a year or find a free download somewhere. Get fucked, epic shill.

Depends on the country.
Most countries don't give a flying fuck.

Is there a female character in a bdsm outfit calling you son ? Or any fetish fueled character ?

Steam revived PC gaming though, it didn't kill it as such.

Imagine living in the kind of dystopian hellhole where you have to use a VPN to pirate.

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>calling anyone retarded while living in "land of freedom" and not being able to pirate

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Have you seen Amigos Ass Creed Bortherhood release or scene FO4? Fuck that, you don't have to be borderline retarded to fall for that bait, it has the actual game. Like for real, vainilla FO4. But the shit that goes on the background though...
Piracy tends to be shifty. On a closed circuit it gets less messy and more community driven.

>forced to seed

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>upload more obscure content.
Why not upload in a public tracker, so more people can enjoy the obscure shit ?

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I'm so behind the curve that the year delay means nothing. Still haven't even played Arkham Knight. Feels good getting complete products for half the price.

Fuck you Timmy, I don't need day 1 patch.

>promised a beta by april
>it's halfway through may

Something from 15 years ago probably won’t have seeders, also the Private Trackers I use have been going for 10 years at this point, I don’t know what the hell youre going on about them dying every few years

Which countries fuck you over for torrenting?

If devs stay on the Epic store it's not because they sell well, it's because Epic will keep bailing them out if they stay on their store if they don't sell well. Soon all semblance of effort getting put into the games will be gone since these devs know it won't sell a copy anyway, meaning they can keep raking in free cash for zero effort done.

>make monster hunter clone because no mh on pc outside china and jap
>suddenly monster hunter on pc
>now your game is irrelevant
>become an epic exclusive to make some money with epic bribes

i really feel bad for them that was some bad luck nobody expected a pc monster hunter

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JP, some EU countries, US I believe.

>shitty MonHun
>a game that I've never heard of
>a game that you probably need the Ubi Launcher for anyway
>and a weird, low budget John Wick game
ok

Nice try, ching chong

Canada for sure.
Fuck you Level 3

>nobody expected
Everyone but Nintendies knew it was going to be a multiplat (and therefore PC as well) MH.

Not europe but you pretty much need a VPN in Japan. I know people that have received warnings.

thepiratebay.org/torrent/3510040/Call_of_Duty_2
More than 350 seeders. There since 2006.

>>a game that I've never heard of
Hello 2016-kun

Wasn't it an epic exclusive since the go?

GTA SA was 15 years ago, and it has a shitload of seeders.
NSFU2, HL2, Sims 2, Burnout 2...

I would but my ISP somehow catches me when I torrent from Public Trackers but not Private ones, even with my VPN

>some EU countries
Which ones? I'm guessing Germany and UK?

i think they started development before mh world reveal

i was wondering why i was pirating games more in the last couple of years again compared to before, that shit actually makes sense.

Pirating a game because they dared to not shove titties down your throat is pathetic.

I'm in the UK and been pirating for years, never got a letter and don't know anybody who has. The most I've seen done about piracy is websites blocked.

>turn based John Wick game
Unironically what the FUCK were they thinking?

Quiet, book burner.

triggered, faggot?

Jesus Christ I want her to suffocate me with her sweaty crotch so bad.

Nope, it was supposed to be independent,

Where the fuck was that implied?

Wow exclusive shovelware

imagine the smell

This desu

Imagine opening a new bookstore but instead of offering lower prices to customers than your competitor paying publishers to only sell their books in your store. Would you defend this shit too, Epicdrones? Because you seem perfectly fine with it when it's digital storefronts.

The worst part is that the chink ripoff MonHun (Monster Hunter Online) is somehow better than Dauntless.

Didn't revive any dev studios or individual talented devs that jumped ship to biggers 1st/3rd party console-focused studios.

It merely boosted Steam's own games and serves as (one of) the best places to publish console ports. Neither of those are related to true PC games, aside from Steam's a>I guess - which is another dead dev for all intents and purposes.

Look at all these games that won't get my money...

I thought Epic said they were going to curate properly and not add trash to their store? Then why in the fuck is half of the exclusives on there fucking trash?

What is wrong with these fucks? At least use your Fortnite money to bag good games.

Nothing wrong with that. They paid for exclusivity. Deal with it seething steamcuck

Good games cost too much shekels

>Borderlands 3
>Outer Worlds
Those are GOTY material right there.

>Borderlands 3 GOTY
Badass
>Outer Worlds GOTY
Bigot

>be indie game dev
>Your game is decently good but not well known
>take the Epic pill to get some cash and have a chill development cycle focusing on learnign and improving
>make a sequel with the aknowledged experience and release it on steam/consoles

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>you'd be a fucking retard to think "but what about muh pc gamers? They don't want another launcher".
Or someone with integrity who cares more about critical success than money.
At least it weeds out the cashgrabs from the actual passionate devs.

>no more yakuza

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When are they annoucing the publishers that will be there?

the ones that don't need to rely on epic paycheck because they know they made trash and want to make some safe money.

Cool, the best top sellers that are still relevant today have seeds.
What about literally everything else?
That's the point of a private tracker, if you want to play something outside of the most popular games, you are pretty much guaranteed to have a decent speed from all the people seeding every random game.
If public trackers works for you because you only need current things or popular things, then that's great.

If you guys care so much about the China market taking over, why not petition Japanese devs into not using it? Japan hates China, so it makes sense for them to not publish on there once they're informed about its true nature.

EU doesn't actually give a shit about piracy, the law exists as an excuse to set up the infustructure so in a political crisis they can use it to censor dissent.

Dpends on how good the combat is I suppose.
I feel like maybe they should have gone with third person but I suppose that kind of kills the horror part.

>DAUNTLESS
It was hilarious reading the polygon article, where other than calling monster hunting a "genre" they kept calling it fresh and inspired by Fortnite. Meanwhile we all know wits a trash MH clone

>powered by epic
Wait what

how on earth does someone just go and get in a private tracker anyways

>It's real
These fucking parasites. I hope this is the worst PC Gaming Show yet.

yeah i dont care just give an artist name, or post more shit like that

This.
Paypigs are the worst thing to ever happen to the videogame industry.

find someone to invite you

Anything that's worth playing, apparently.

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Irrelevant in my country, we pay additional tax on hard drives because the government knows we're gonna pirate anyway.

>John Wick
>see trailer
>it's a fucking turn based shit
Well, back to playing Strangehold.

Monster Hunter World
DMC5
Sekiro
Ace Combat 7

You know china censors their games far worse than the west right?

Is Dauntless any good?

>Warframe has soul

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get fucked chinkshill

soon it will just be weeb vns and shitty indie games.

the actual Monster Hunter

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He's right though, in the beginning you're full of soul while playing it.
Then after 100h of doing the same shit over and over again, your soul finally leaves the body of playing this trash.

>Dabs on every EGS game with ZERO (0) Marketting

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that means no Japanese reveals in general
Japan is currently avoiding EGS like the plague
im glad they atleast warn us beforehand that it will be the Sweeny Hacky indie devs hour

At least Dauntless has unique weapon designs. That alone makes it better than MHW.

Every free game is automatically "decent" to poorfags and thirdworlders.

l m a o

Nice try Dauntless devs. How does it feel getting absolutely bodied by the game you were trying to ripoff?

now this is cope

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Cyberpunk 2077

Bunch of literallywhos mostly

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Thats Outer Wilds, not Worlds.
Wilds has been in development limbo for over half a decade and is about exploring a bizarro solar system.

T. Sonytard.

>download EGS if you want the newest indietrash and Ubishit titles first
so Epic is not even going to try i guess

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it looks like shit

I want to believe.
I do hope the combat gets faster.

>Dauntless
dumbed down MH for brainlets that are intimidated by MH mechanics, pass
>Ghost Recon whatever
What even is this? Some open world survival? BR? Pass
>John Wick game
most likely trash, trying to cash in on the brand, pass
>Outer Wilds
pretencios indie 'open-world exploration' game, literally a genre with an audience of like 17 people, pass

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Why would you limit yourself with a free to play game? Shouldn't you try and get as many people playing as possible?

a bunch of shit game ill now never play instead of maybe on a deep sale
epic can buy most games i still wont buy em from there

>epic gives small indie team a lot of money for being a timed exclusive
>after 6 months they can just release it on steam anyways

It's basic math, people are going to keep doing this until fortnite stops being successful and epic stops throwing money at devs.

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And here is a worthless paypig seething that I will continue to be a thorn in your side. Up, just finished my 5th download. What are you going to do faggot? Keep whining? Ive been targeting EPIC games store games lately. Lmao stay mad cope harder tranny.

>Re-Logic
If Terraria 2 is EGS exclusive I'm gonna burn something down

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Epic is already forcing themselves into the "face of PC gaming" bullshit status through the PC gaming show being turned into a glorified Epic store wankfest. Jesus fuck, this is a dumpster fire if I ever saw one. Not that the PC gaming show was ever good, but at least before it wasn't tied to one PC storefront.

That sounds like monster Hunter

*World

>If you're a small dev team and someone offers to fund your entire game you'd be a fucking retard to think "but what about muh pc gamers? They don't want another launcher".
If they expected their game to be a one and done deal for their entire career as a game dev, maybe.
Selling out to the Epic Game Store, especially so if you ever advertised your game on or for other platforms, you irreversibly destroy your reputation.

Just look at Phoenix Point. That fuck of a developer is probably right when he claims that the up front deal has already given him more money than all the sales ever would. But now he has no dedicated fanbase left.
Phoenix Point had the potential to create a franchise to run next to X-COM and become an established brand. But not anymore, people won't give him another chance. And if his game sells terribly on the Epic Game Store, then the chances of Epic paying him up front for another game is unlikely too. Especially considering how Epic claimed that their current business model is not sustainable.

>pretencios indie 'open-world exploration' game
It's not open world or indie. It's closer to something like VTMB.

>source: my ass

Does epic not have any Japanese games? Do they only put western games on their store?

Void Bastards
store.steampowered.com/app/857980
Druidstone: The Secret of the Menhir Forest (by the authors of Legend of Grimrock)
store.steampowered.com/app/954650/
SteamWorld Quest: Hang of Gilgamech
store.steampowered.com/app/804010

>not recognizing those devs
holy shit, please leave

>bannerlord
kek
anyway all these games might switch sides by the time they are ready for release. Just like it happened with exodus..

>Only 19 monsters.
>ACTUALLY only 6 monsters, because one monster skelleton is used for various monsters.
>Only one new weapon since release, from 5 to 6.
>only 3 maps, but they are the same map just different "biome", forest, desert, tundra.
>no weapon tree whatsoever, just one weapon for each weapon type and one armor for each behemoth, no weapon evolution, just +1,+2,etc.
>hit detection so bad that would make Dark Souls 2 shockwaves blush.

The only redeeming thing about that game, is that each hunter has his owns revives and if he uses them, he has to wait to be revived by someone else, so you won't lose the hunt if someone is a piece of shit and keeps dying, just don't revive them.

Also a little p2w-ish, if you buy the season pass or whaterver is called, you will get extra mats.

>games literally no one has heard of or cares about is exclusive to epic
oh no what is Steam going to do

>Re-Logic gets fucking damm rich for making a game in 4 months thanks to steam.
>jumps boat and goes to the chinks

man I'm going to pirate terraria 2 so fast if that's true.

the black knight does not have pubes

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>>be indie game dev
>>Your game is decently good but not well known
>>take the Epic pill to get some cash and have a chill development cycle focusing on learnign and improving

In this hypothetical scenario your game doesn't even goddamn make it to the Epic Game Store because Epic doesn't care about you if they can't use your game to try and poach Steam users.

Their choice of exclusives is so fucking weird honestly. Also how were they able to get shit like BL3 and Outer World on board but they can't poach the more high profile indie games on steam like say Factorio or RimWorld?

>like say Factorio

The Factorio devs are principled as fuck. They've outright turned down enormous payouts from corps for rights to the game because it would take away control for their thing

I think mostly because those indies refuse their exclusivity deals. And BL3 was easy since after The Pre-Sequel, Colonial Marines and Battleborn drove Gearbox into a pit, they weren't going to turn down those 12 million.

factorio.com/blog/post/fff-293
>The famous quote of "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" and also "No bullshit policy" is something we take very seriously all the time during the development since the early days. Things like pricing $30 instead of $29.99, no sales, no micro-transactions, game stability over features, no selling-out to big companies that would use the game as cash grab while destroying the brand (we actually declined to negotiate "investment opportunities" like this several times already, no matter what the price would be), the same would be when it would potentially come to any exclusivity deals, which is its own subject...

>after The Pre-Sequel, Colonial Marines and Battleborn drove Gearbox into a pit, they weren't going to turn down those 12 million.

I mean it's fucking Randy so he'll do anything for more money, especially if he can siphon it into his own accounts

>2012
>games didnt have DLC or DRM back then

Steam IS DRM you braindead mongoloid. Steam also sponsored DLC, it also wanted paid mods.
Also Valve is censoring your games so pirating now is the biggest hypocrit move you could pull because it was literally fine when Steam did it

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IFRAMES

Epic's criteria for games does seem really peculiar.

>AAA titles, mostly Ubisoft, that are already making their way out of steam
>very small handful of greedy publishers
>UE4 games on early access
>prospective kickstarter games that probably needed an extra cash injection to go on
>lots of literal who indie games but none of the big daddies
>a lot of other rejects that are just rip-offs of much better games already on steam
Notice that there's no curation going on here at all. Just picking scraps and potential pisspoor devs.
Remember when they said they weren't going to accept crappy games?

>Remember when they said they weren't going to accept crappy games?
Yes, right at the same time as they accepted David Cage 'games'

>Dauntless comes out
>Almost instantly cucked by MHW
>Dauntless comes out again on Epic launcher
>Gets cucked AGAIN by Iceborne
Imagine being a Dauntless dev, holy shit

Why the fuck is Dauntless f2p anyway when it has so little fucking content? Which dumbass thought that was a good idea?

>it never dies
The site is frequently offline.

Because if it cost money to play it, it would literally be a scam at that amount of content.

Im new to pirating. Whats a tracker?

What's the biggest (in terms of players) erstwhile Steam game that Epic has sniped? Rocket League?

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Yes and no. It depends on how RL works going forward. Will they choose to fuck over its steam playerbase? Because I'm 100% sure RL is going to go f2p once it's on Epic.

That may or may not be true, but my question was regarding the biggest games Epic is taking from Steam. As others have noted above, they're B-grade titles and lower.

Epic won't have sniped Rocket League users though. People who own the game will continue to own it on Steam where it's sold millions

kind of annoyed about Outer Wilds but I don't think I'd buy it anyway
was pretty good as a free game, not sure it's worth money

>have game on steam
>also have game on epic stores but at a reduced cost
>customers can choose between launcher they're more likely used to, or a cheaper price
Why don't devs do this?

All of this is becoming a blur at this point.

Are those timed exclusives? Or will they not get on shit like steam or gog anymore after a year?

Sounds like it will be a Blood Dragon situation where I'm clicking play on Steam but it sends me to another launcher.

>devs
They rarely have control. It's the publishers, who often have to appease shareholders who give zero fucks about video games and only care about the profits.

I love dauntless but it needs a bit more content. I hear that it will be fully on epic store for pc and they will get rid of its standalone launcher

>have Epic account, for UT or some shit
>get emails about chinks or russians attempting to log in several times a week
yeah fucking deleted that shit account and never looked back
fuck anything to do with Epic

im an elitist pirate , franchises i really care i will be day 1 on their pc version like dark souls , final fantasy ,YS,resident evil etc if the other option is pirating and said franchise skip their pc version like with a lot of japanese games now indies japanese of western im sorry im not going to spend a dime on your games , but will be playing them regardless

I'd say BL3 is AA and a half while Outer World's an AA

>>also have game on epic stores but at a reduced cost
I believe the only rule Steam enforces is that you can generate as many free keys as you want, sell them however you want, but it can't be at a lesser price, outside of a sale. Steam has to have the same price. So you can't have the game on Steam for 60 and on Epic for 50, for example.

Fuck the chinks and bugmen.
Fuck the Ameritards and Burgers.
Fuck the cucks and britfags.
Fuck the Europoors and their wife's boyfriend.

Southern Floridian masterace doesn't have the time, patience of lack of dignity to deal with shitty business practices. All I do is pirate games and delete them once they stop amusing me. Your "work" and "effort" and "ethics" mean nothing to me you cock mongoling faggots.

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Epic is literally paying people millions of dollars just to sell on their store. Of course people aren’t running, epic guarantees their game is a success even if it would otherwise flop.

brainlet here

wouldn't it make more sense to just release your game on all launchers? you know? biggest possible costumer reach?

they don't get paid a fat check for exclusivity that way

yeah

I'll pirate it, not pay a dime

if you're game was going to sell like shit anyway, no, since Epic guarantees a certain amount of $$$ goes to you regardless of sales
that's why most exclusives are shitty AA titles

>Southern Florida
RIP user if he ever has to get surgery. All the surgical team will take an extended lunch to go hit up the bar in the middle of the day

oh so it's basically just ez cash injection for the small price of bad publicity?

yes but a lot of devs either think people will jump to epic or think the exclusivity money is worth every real sale they could get elsewhere
BL3 is pretty much guaranteed to sell millions but they took the exclusivity deal anyway

>the small price of bad publicity

We have no idea on the long-term effects this will have on devs and publishers in the PC space.

>He doesn't know how to perform house surgery with a rusty butter knife and sewing machine.

Literally get on my fucking level of survival, you limp wristed, twink Yankee. Or go slurp on some of that onions more. I'll be over here lighting cigars for my pet alligator who killed 3 trespassers just this week while you feed your ungrateful cat it's food after they piss and shit on your bed.

Pretty much. Fortine bucks allow Epic's bribery to run amok. I'm guessing Tim is gay for Gaben and is now on a vendetta because Gaben refused his advances.

I'm aware

I drew them in.

Someone wake me up when Epic gets Japanese developers on board.

I hope they make PC ports at some point!

Seriously. I'm shocked it's lived as long as it has.

Absolutely based Floridafag.

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Probably not that much. The majority of buyers don't even give a fuck, and the majority of those who do care tend to forget something like this after a few years anyway.

It took the major Japanese publishers over a decade to get on board with Steam. Epic will never pull them in, especially since Asian markets use a lot of non-standard payment options that Epic either doesn't support or forces the cost onto the customer

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You're right.

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literally everything that these rags aren't paid to tell you exists. Aka anything that isn't in these clickbait headlines they're paid to post, which you have collaged here to prove my point.

>Capcom is fucking killing it on PC
>Sekiro was a huge success too
>Octopath coming soon to steam

Yeah.
It's going to take a lot to convince the nips that steam isn't the way to go when it comes to PC.

>chink monsterhunter ripoff
>just your average soulless ubishit game
>a game starring keanu reeves apparently
>some random indie kickstarter trash by conman developers who know their shit game is shit but the chinks don't

Let's be honest, most gamers are braindead as fuck and will not remember or give a fuck in the long run. It would take a colossal fuck up like accounts getting hacked, people getting their bank accounts drained, etc. to make people not trust epic or anyone associated with epic

I will never buy a game where I don't want to fuck one of the main female characters.

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>The majority of buyers don't even give a fuck

Metro Exodus' sales were so piss-poor on the Epic Game Store that instead of giving actual sales numbers they had to brag about the game selling 2.5x the first week copies of Metro: Last Light, a game that release in 2012 with zero marketing because THQ had fucking died months prior

Well that's why i stick to my console of choice.

>Trump.
>Save the West.
Mission Accomplished! In a George W. kind of way.

Steam killed offline PC gaming by introducing the need to go online and download steam itself in 2004.

PC Gaming isn't console gaming. There's still a fair number of people in PC gaming that are still elitist as fuck and autistic enough to continuously call out Epic on their bullshit for the masses to see

>It's going to take a lot to convince the nips
okay how many millions then? epic can shell it out you cuck

Fortnite monster hunter. Very original.

I'm gonna guess what you're trying to say, you're being a contrarian faggot who is acting like the reason someone pirates is because "men" aren't getting their "sexual fix" anymore. Well you know what? No one is, censorship for what purpose? Are M rated games not allowed to show nudes whereas an R rated film and have all the shits and fucks and at least the top have exposed? Censoring is not the only thing, micro transactions are more shoe-horned in that ever before, and multi-player games are literally accepting the pubg / fortnite. This is why I would pirate a game, if it has some bullshit agenda shoved into it, no thank you.

>epic can shell it out you cuck

And yet Epic's managed to secure exactly zero timed exclusives for Japanese-made games

just wait for E3

the pc conference is going to make all you steamniggers seethe

LMAO

Dauntless Hammer is the best weapon i've ever seen on a Mh-like game

>Southern Floridian.
Fuck off poorfag, welfare leech Cubano.

YEP

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Riddle me this Yea Forums.

If everyone hates Valve's cut why are none of the devs going on itch or discord instead since they ask for an even smaller cut?

B-but Valve! Valve is bad!
Praise the Chairman Sweeney and his EGS!

>Epic store literally collecting trash so it doesnt pile up on steam
Thanks?

>yfw the free games shit actually works on some people and you've seen people deflect all criticism of the EGS with BUT THEY GIVE FREE GAMES

there is literally zero incentive not to pirate a game if it isn't on steam

EGS not only offers a lower cut but also gives them straight up Cash if you are big enough.

There's also zero incentive not to pirate a game EVEN IF it is on Steam.

>What games are actually coming to Steam?

The 99% of big games that are quietly coming out on Steam as usual? The only reason it even looks like Epic is getting anything is because everysingle announcement of them taking a game has shitloads of news articles to push controversy

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Oh right I forgot that they still give free games.

Thats fucking retarded but I guess chinks probably hacked it to death

itch.io offers 100% cut

Fuck you chinks.
Games like Mordhau would have never found success on Epic because they would have never let them in their store in the first place.

But Borderlands 3 is Epic exclusive.

the cut is a meme

Like I said EGS is better than that since EGS offers 100% cut AND CASH MONEY ON TOP OF IT for big games.

cp2077 won't, it will never be an exclusive because they own GOG

It's not like Steam magically disappears or something. Low quality trash games and shovelware will keep getting released on Steam while good games go to EGS

Only for a little while. Why would you by the "DLC game" before it's complete anyway.

>EGS offers 100%
they don't

>while good games go to EGS

Like Roller Coaster Tycoon Adventures, a PC port of a Switch port of a shitty mobile game?

t.roastie

>What games are actually coming to Steam?
Games that people will actually buy.

>EGS offers 100% cut

88% cut you dummy

Bloodlines 2 is already on epic you retard, they just turned down the exclusivity deal.

>that dev list
lmao the only one that i was even remotely interested were fatshark because of vermintide, and i stopped playing it like half a year ago because of slow updates
literally how would they make me seethe faggot

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I remember when it was easier to pirate a game than buy it. Gaben realised this with the "piracy is a service program" approach and made PC gaming more comfortable and give people reasons to buy a game as opposed to pirating it.
15 years later we are back again, currently pirating a game is easier than using the Epic store and you won't miss a single feature by doing so because the epic store is that bad

>noooooooo, not my kickstarter scams!

Are you people absolutely retarded (this is Yea Forums so yes). The 88% cut is for normal developers. NOT developers with a deal. We know from some developers (Metro) that EGS offered them a 100% cut AND CASH MONEY on top of it.

This is to ensure people will need to download and install EGS to play those games even if it's at a loss for Epic. They are trying to become the main store after all they are throwing billions at it that they got from Fortnite.

>while good games go to EGS
Like what?

Ashen?
Dauntless?
Satisfactory?
Outward?
World War Z?
Roller Coaster Tycoon Adventures?

Are you actually memeing me right now mate? Epic can't curate for fucking shit.

>as long as you know how to avoid obvious traps
fucking this. I've been using TPB for a little over 10 years and have literally never gotten a single virus/malware/miner from it. There are so many obvious tells. If you're trying to download a game from 5 years ago and see the top seeded game was uploaded fucking yesterday then it's pozzed

Because managing the myriad of payment systems, credit/debt cards, banks, etcs. is a right pain in the arse. Lord help you if some slav used stolen cards to buy your game and re-sell on GMG, meanwhile you're footing the bill for all the chargebacks.

unironically why i started pirating again

god bless igg

They all will once epic store burns to the ground.

>Play Dauntless to completion in Beta with friends.
>MHW comes out I forget about it.
>Rejoin with the same group a few days ago
>All weapons are reworked and have even less mechanics than before, being good feels unrewarding as fuck
>Granades and Guns are cool I guess, good supports at least
>Default Lamp doesn't locate the monster anymore, in fact none of the lamps have unique effects anymore its variations of the same 3
>New monsters are neat and pretty original in the genre
>Missions are gliched out the ass
>Spent half the playtime replaying old missions because rank doesn't actually mean shit and there are new tutorials
>Going on Patrols is still a 90% chance of having carrying a mentally retarded kids stuck with the Quillshot
All in all not that bad actually

You're selectively ignoring the thousands of absolute shovelware trash that no one buys and clutters the Steam store.

Yes those games are all 6/10 games and are of acceptable quality. They don't need to be GOTY. Just not the absolute trash which is what makes Steam unusable.

With the backlog I got that's ez

why would you buy borderlands at all

cheevos

where? I thought this store was supposed to be curated

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Well yeah. Are you braindead? It's piss easy to find new games that are potentially good on steam. At least they're actually giving these hidden gems a chance.

Meanwhile Epic was supposed to be curated and actually have good games but instead they've filled their catalog up with utterly mediocre crap.

We are not talking about exclusivity deals. According to """""Sweeney""""" publishers should switch to EGS on their own be cause of the better cut.
The question is, why they didn't switch to platforms with better cuts?

I JUST WANT UT AGAIN

HOW IN THE FUCK IS THIS SO HARD?

the worst thing that could happen to you is you get a letter from your ISP telling you to stop, but they only send those letters when they're getting paid by a company to do that. pretty much only ever seen disney, CBS, and fox SOMETIMES do that shit when you pirate one of their new movies.
No video game company has ever paid ISPs to scare people from pirating their shit

So EGS has only 6/10 mediocre shit, while Steam has both 1/10 crap and 9/10 GOTYs.
The choice is a no-brainer to me

PLAY FORTNITE AND BUY SKINS YOU GOYIM

The point is that EGS only has 6/10s now. But in the future they will have 6/10-10/10 games while Steam is filled to the brim with 1/10-5/10 trash with some good games being released on there as well.

EGS is also trying to buy Discord so it's inevitable it's going to be the leading platform from 2020 onwards. Unless Steam starts to fight back aggressively as well.

Putting your game on the Epic Game Store, is pretty much garunteed to sell poorly and have you branded negatively in the eyes of your supposed customers.
Especially if you promise to be on one pr two platforms and then do a bait and switch to EGS exclusive. It's especially insulting when the indie Kickstarter games do it because EGS waves it's dick made of cash in it's face, and they just open their mouth and beg for money.

Don't you guys find it funny how we are going a full circle with the tech industry? Around 20 years ago when Napster was launched, the entire music industry, a billion dollar industry holding monopoly with access to the best lawyers in entire world got completely BTFO'd by two computer science students living in a small dorm room.
It used to be that old money billionaire companies while fighting against the technology and the young geniuses doing better work in their free time than what they could with the unlimited resources.

And now we got the point where tech guys are the billionaires trying to sell their shitty products and it's the government that has to come in and regulate them.
Case in point, money makes people shitty

>chinks are too dumb not to buy bad rats
wtf is wrong with you? how braindead do you have to be to complain about MUH SHOVELWARE.

>Discord
>another well-known chinese data collection tool
Sweeney is so far up Chairman Pooh's ass he might as well renounce his US citizenship and become a card-carrying member of the Chinese regime.

When I started using Steam in ~2008 I actually browsed the store and looked at every new game released to see if it's cool or not. Read the discription and everything.

Now the store is so fucking filled to the brim with shit that I haven't even looked at steam since 2013. I also don't play a lot of games anymore due to this.

>Yea but what mongloids buy games on release

that's what I want to know. I can't see a reason other than to be a zeitgeist following faggot or console cancer with no games so they have to buy new shit to play anything.

>EGS
>Leading platform in 2020
You crack me up user.

>But in the future
We're not in the future, we're in the present. I don't care what epic has planned because from what I've seen they can't even stick to their own deadlines. Epic is interested in doing everything except make a good service, until they learn to do that I will buy my games elsewhere or pirate.

lmao use the curator system in place you asshat if you're too lazy to dumpster dive yourself.

if a game is worth your time then it will eventually rise among the drivel.

>dude i havent used steam in 6 years!
>let me tell you how it is
kill yourself retard

This still greatly amuses me.

>use private trackers to download public releases

is retarded, unless they're freeleech it's just lost ratio for the exact same thing. private trackers are great... for stuff that isn't massively public like big game releases.

>Monster Hunter World
weebshit
>DMC5
Nothing personnel kid
>Sekiro
Decent weebshit
>AC7
Yikes, zoomercore-tier flight sim and weebshit

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if you count your favorite devs from a certain time period not being PC-focused as the "death of PC gaming", then it was always going to happen. are you suggesting some non-existent person or conglomerate should have bought out every good dev in the early 2000s and forced them to only release on PC, an unproven market?

It’s an endless grind towards nothing and the story is shit. The devs are divorced from the player experience, most of their content is doomed to die without any support, there’s STILL no endgame, the gameplay is STILL piss easy.

>outer wilds
>epic store
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO EPIC YOU BASTARDS HOW COULD YOU
RIP to the comfiest space game ever. Now I'll never be able to roast marshmallows on the moon while listening to banjo music.

Ice cream-headed bitch

>MHW
>weebshit
Gr8 b8 m8

Is there a third party game on EGS that's ACTUALLY exclusive there and not just timed?

get an invite from someone you know, or get into semi-private trackers and work your way up through forums. keep an eye on what trackers are having open periods where you don't need an invite. to get into the most exclusive trackers though you will need an invite that is backed up by a history of some kind, and either rare material to offer or a well set-up seedbox to maintain ratio. but you probably won't care about those trackers unless you are into niche stuff and/or hoarding.

Dangerous Driving I think?

Satisfactory and phoenix point probably

>epic pays millions for literal who games that don't sell
I wonder how fucked epic will be if that lootbox bill passes

I think The Cycle, which is this f2p game I've had my eye on for a while.

>Satisfactory and phoenix point probably

Both are only year-long exclusives

>believing this
Dear god the chink shills are getting desperate

pretty good doesnt mean perfect epic shill

there was not paid mods in 2012, quit trying to revise history so people buy fortnite skins faggot

probably not unless the dev goes bankrupt/publisher saw it sold badly so they forget about it

Imagine the Meltdown those Devs must have had when MHW was announced lel

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...

epic used to use lootboxes but removed em at the first sign of trouble. their current business practices will be much harder to prosecute. if lootboxes get outlawed steam's going under first

>it SOMEHOW run's like ass even though looking like shit

Are we talking about world or dauntless?

>then it was always going to happen.
Yes, maybe I didn't explain it well, the existence of middleware/storefronts/launchers is unrelated to the death of PC gaming, they just so happened to pop up at around the same time.

True PC gaming died with the advent of rising costs and bigger teams. "PC" is not a Platform Holder like Nintendo or Sony, there's no big man to sponsor projects, so it would be innevitable that devs jumped ship to console development. PC gaming's golden age died with middle tier AA 90's/early 2000's devs. By middle tier I don't mean quality, I mean cost/team size.

>are you suggesting some non-existent person or conglomerate should have bought out every good dev in the early 2000s and forced them to only release on PC, an unproven market?
Microsoft might've done it, but by then it was clear consoles would be more profitable. Now even more so with services, paid online and the platform holder getting a cut of each and every game bought within their ecosystem.

It really does make you feel bad.

Imagine thinking you could corner the pc market for monhun-style games only for the OG crew themselves suddenly decide to just utterly destroy any hopes you had for success. And the worst part despite this epic deal it's going to happen again with iceborne. You can't make this shit up.

I don't feel bad for them, the game looked like trash and the fact that it was f2p and early access was a huge red flag.

>not a single jap game to speak of
Almost like the japs know the chinks are subhuman filth or something.........

I recognize like 3 of those, and as far as I'm concerned
Chucklefuck abandoned Starbound
Warframe is cancer
Fatshark are jews

public tracker plebs will never understand

Does anyone even fucking remember what noteworthy shit happened in the previous pc games conferences in e3?

>spent £80 on the dauntless founder package
>MHW gets announced moments after the refund date

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FUCK YOU

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>recognize the developers of a terraria clone but can't recognize the developers of terraria itself
and look at the first paragraph, there's more companies there, although most of them aren't giving me confidence, especially if they started sucking Epic dick

There's no games coming out in general if you have any taste, you pleb.

>I remember when it was easier to pirate a game than buy it
This is always what it comes down to.
Paying a suitably low price to avoid inconvenience is what reduces piracy.
Inconvenience and high prices are what raises piracy.
Tenecents store has both consumer inconvenience and laughably high prices compared to the market.

i slept during the pc shit man, who can bear to waste time on it?
it's so boring and nothing but indies are announced

>outer wilds
lmao fuck this shit I was at least looking forward to it.

Oh look it's the same retarded whiner back again.
Obviously people buy them, otherwise they wouldn't be on the store and wouldn't be able to have any user reviews retardo. I dunno why you keep arguing this, just leave steam, nobody wants you here and you're too brainlet to use the features correctly for searching and curating yourself.

>tfw the only game I want from the Chink Game Store is Detroit: Become Human
What's wrong with me

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Haylow: The Master Chef's Cuisine
And any other game that has passionate devs that care about their playerbase and see money as a consequence to it
>But Rawkit League was bought by EGS
And the backlash was evident

>Unless Steam starts to fight back aggressively as well.
So far, steam has done nothing and epic has lost money and make themselves look retarded regularly.
Steam doesn't have to do a goddamn thing lad.

IMAGINE THINKING ANYONE SHOPS THIS WAY HOLY SHIT
You walk around a supermarket inspecting every single of their thousands upon thousands of items too? Fuck I want a new pair of shoes, best look at literally every shoe in the store instead of just the styles that I like and want. Big think

That's not remotely true, steam will be almost entirely free from that nonsense because their boxes are for the most part not tied to the game and you're not buying from them, their tied to the out of game market and you're buying from other players

>hair fag is also a retard
imagine my shock

Not that user but my ISP somehow blocks torrent uploads, but not downloads
I've already tried port forwarding and it doesn't work

that's not even a game

have kids

Neither are visual novels but no one on Yea Forums cares
Nothing wrong with enjoying a comfy movie game sometimes

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I HAVE TOO MUCH CHOICE SOMEONE SAVE ME I CANT NAVIGATE A WEB PAGE OTHERS SHOULD CHOOSE WHAT I GET TO SEE AND BUY

why are anti-steam drones so stupid? why do they want cancerous, apple-style walled garden marketplaces?

>why do they want cancerous, apple-style walled garden marketplaces?
funny thing is I bet if Steam didn't open up, the key narrative for a "competitor" would be that they're being more open and would give more games a chance

>y-y-your going to be seething steam drone, once we unveil another literal who game, just you wait
whatever lets you sleep at night chink

>Microsoft might've done it
problem is the ecosystem around PC gaming, IE the community, the availability of things like pc-gaming wiki, build guides, tons of hardware choice, etc. wasn't there at the time. if it had been MS might have been able to push a console-level playerbase onto PC. as it was the best they could do was become steam. Instead they leveraged their PC presence to psuh people and ports towards xbox. which wasn't really a bad idea, original xbox was the best console MS ever made, it had more PC ports than any other console at a time when PC centric design was still dominant. I played all the PC classics on the original xbox because I could never afford a gaming PC. I think they want to capture a bit of that old magic with the next gen xbox, IE, taking much more of a publisher and dev supporter position, having their hands in both markets, accepting that console people and PC players can be catered to simultaneously. as long as the games sell, they can sell the xbox on the greater and superior state of the ports, with exclusives basically meaning "not on playstation", instead of real exclusives.

they showed a lot of footage for AA games already in development and announced quite a few PC titles as well. people think the show is boring because there is very little spectacle, but in terms of actual announcements and showcasing of tangible products the PC gaming show has been showing more than any other presentation.

>believing this
Epic is only able to stay afloat due to the fact that fortnite is trendy with zoomers who keep buying lootboxes because they are retarded. But the problem with that is fortnite will inevitably stop being trendy and will lose players and this isn't even considering the fact lootboxes might get restricted soon if that new bill passes meaning fortnites revenue will plummet. Once fortnite stops being vialbe then epic will go downhill do to the fact that nobody uses it outside of fortnite and since they can't throw away money anymore they can't buy out developers.

China will destroy Steam lol Fucking delicious seriously

Amerimutts should be purged

this. it used to be "give every game/dev an opportunity", now it's "ban icky games with wrongthink". people are really upset that a web page isn't showing them the ads they would like to see, they only want to see games they already think are good based on previous marketing I guess.

t. brainlet

That's why they're increasing their catalog. So that when the kids get tired of fortnite they'll check out the other shit on the egs. They're capturing a new generation of gamers.

All of them, but only in a finished state :^)

This is what epic shills actually believe.

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>believing fortnite kiddies will be interested in literal who games
Most fortnite zoomers are hardcore normies that only play trendy games. They will just look at those indie games as gay shit and move on and the few that do buy it will realize those games are absolute shit tier which further discourages them from trying out the catalog. They only think Epic has going for it that can get normie attention is borderlands yet since thats also a timed exclusive it will probably not have that much of an impact in the long run

>They're capturing a new generation of gamers
just judging by all these screencaps from twitter "new generation of gamers" dye their hair pink, uses xer pronounces and dont actually play those games

Everything beyond the few coming to epic

Furry Girl 2

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good ones, by the looks of that

no free shekels

Is there any good games left to be released this year? It can't just be me who's not interested in anything that's launching the rest of this year.

I pirated a lot of indies that I ended up buying at full price because they were good.
I also spoke badly of shit indies I pirated because they were terrible.

Make a good game and I'll give you money. Make a bad one and I'll refund/not buy it.
Simple math.

Yakuza PC port
literally all that mattered

This. It's all paid marketing. The entire board is filled with it. Just check the most recent releases and how Yea Forums would not give a fuck about them if it wasn't for fake outrages, literal whos on twitter screencaps and lots, LOTS of paid shills desperate to make their shit relevant.

Yeah, unlike World they've actually been supporting it with good updates so it actually became a decent enough game.

>p2w with nothing interesting to go for
Hard pass for me

You brazilians say this about every garbage game that goes free to play. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.
If trannywatch goes f2p you'll all be saying "It's actually pretty decent now :)"

How the fuck would the choice of launcher affect the "critical success"?
Do you have any thoughts before you type?

JUST

Theyll get a bunch of SJW indies.

Fatshark is literally owned by Tencent, so no surprise there.

Cuckshark

>sold 500k in one week
Damn, imagine if they had put their game on the epic store instead

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it would be 3k at max and i still feel like im too generous here

Oh, I didn't know.
Well, that does explain it.

Good lord I have not seen a single EGS exclusive that I actually want to pirate yet.
>that fucking John Wick game
Wick deserves a better studio, this is some ugly X-COM knockoff.

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not really, video game conferences are literally just to invite the shills to go to so corporate marketing can provide them with pizza & fries if you know what I mean and hand over the shill scripts they'll be running

I want to pirate anno 1800 but it seems no one wants to crack it.

>wanting a Randy Bitchford game
lol what a cuck