Toehoefags on /jp/

>Talking shit about Cave aesthetics

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>t. Guy who play movie games

>Touhou
>One of the hardest shmup series
Nigga wat, if anything 2hu one of the easiest.

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I'm pretty sure shmups and bullet hells are not the same things

You aren't tricking anyone.

>hard
Not talking about difficulty

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I've beat Koishi with every shot type, am I cool yet?

oh, I see

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>Not a single one of them is good at shmups
You do know that a lot of WR holders are /jp/ regulars, right? Some of them like MaZe or the podd guy also post here, but there's still a large powerlevel gap between the boards.

Not yet, you still must defeat Gengetsu by timing out her final attack without bombing.
youtu.be/v0FkEZXVqjk

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>giving the hardest attack in the series to the easiest extra boss in the series
what was ZUN thinking?

>jp mlp

I beat EoSD, PCB, IN, PoFV, MoF on normal. I also don't know shit about 2hu other than the games I've played.

based non-secondary

Yea Forums barely has any Touhou fans. Those Yea Forums-/bant/-Yea Forums shitposters and ironic weebs doesn't count.

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...

>/shmupg/
>playing shmups

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I like the IOSYS flash stuff.

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>Please tell me Yea Forums can actually beat these games
Please tell me Yea Forums actually plays these games.
No one plays Touhou, at least the main games. There's just in it for the music, lore and porn.

I'm Yea Forums and I play these games. Music and porn are also great but lorefags need to kill themselves.

Touhou isn't even a real shmup

Almost the same thing for Windows with Mokou's last non

Gengetsu is a cute devil.

What's your beef with lorefags?

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Touhou games are still easy for bullet hells.

Ehh if you'da asked me 10 years ago I'd say yeah. But I don't have time to practice Lunatic for hours on end like I used to.

everyone in this thread is trying to pick a fight but I guess no one feels like fighting today.

>porn
Why don't you read Fate porn instead? The girls are sexier and actually made for sexualization.

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I'm glad I was never a fatefag. I would be so mad about gacha.

Well imagine being me, who was a Type-Moon fag.

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I can finish them on normal without too much trouble but play in EASY MODO more often because it's more comfy

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I have yet to see a lorefag who actually plays the games at a competent level. All they ever do is pretend to have read the printworks and clog up threads with copypasted /jp/ headcanons that they barely understand. They're also the main source of retarded memes like PC98 not being canon or Okina being everyone's mommy. I'd rather have gameplay threads flooded with braindead porn spammers than have a single lore nigger post their retarded drivel there. Just do me a favor and fuck off.

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But pc98 is not canon anymore. Only people in massive denial think otherwise.

Yea Forums don't play shmups
you gotta go to the farm for that

fuck you Mima is coming back for sure this time

See me @ TSSLPP faggot we'll see who doesn't play shmups

This kind of shit is exactly what I'm talking about. This dumb nigger actually thinks his opinion is worth more than words straight from ZUN's mouth. Go set up an emulator and play those games right fucking now, no excuses.

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I like cute girls and I fucking hate video games, alright?

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>Please tell me Yea Forums can actually beat these games.
I can beat my dick to them instead!

86709~

>everything that isn't a shitty bugman game is a movie game

When's the full game lads?

C96

this August

>alright
No

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I can beat them using cheat engines.

>implying that ZUN didn't say that to avoid the backlash from people like you
Where is pc98 in the Gensokyo Chronicles?
How come SCoOW started presenting the characters from EoSD and not from pc98?

what is this abomination

/jp/'s and Yea Forums's touhou fandoms are one and the same.

I've only played 8, and I couldn't beat it, but I don't post about the games either. I still try 8 every now and then, but I'm very bad and because of how you have to get it done within a certain time frame, I often feel like my run is over before I've even gotten to the stages that really give me trouble.

I guess I just got memed into playing touhou then because I assumed everybody at least did that.
They're fun though, even if I'm ass. Even like the PC98 games for one reason or another.

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I’ve been playing EoSD a little recently and I’m gonna keep trying until I can at least beat it on normal. So far I can make it till just after Meiling before fucking up and running out of lives.

I just like the characters and the music.
I almost never post about it.
not that it even matters, touhou is enjoying its second popularity surge, the vast majority of the "community" (at least on english-speaking IBs) is stupid secondaries like me

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Keep making excuses faggot, the truth won't change just because you're too lazy to install an emulator.

>discussing lore is worse than spamming porn

Even if lorefags can be retarded sometimes this is a really dumb statement.

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Only when ZUN will actually aknowledge pc98 in canon
Which it will never happen because it's dead and irrelevant lol

8 showers you with resources, just bombspam

No, fuck off back to that shithole and wait the sweet release of heat death of this shit game. After all you nigs love to be oh so obscure.

>this shit game
Which one?

Don't type like a fag.

At least the porn spammers are honest about being secondaries. Lorefag derails are just as destructive and not as pleasant to look at.

roight, be real with me here Yea Forums what was your favorite game in the series and why?
i really liked EoSD for example, but not because of the gameplay itself, but because i played it on my laptop and for some reason it went 4-6 times the regular speed, didn't realize it wasn't normal until 3 weeks into it and already at Remilia's door

>lore
>derail
Do you see the flaw here?

I like Touhou.

You came to the wrong thread fucker

I like sneed

>/jp/
LOL dead board

>Only when ZUN will actually aknowledge pc98 in canon
He already did though, Yuuka and Alice exist, with Alice even referencing MS in her first appearance in Windows canon.
Mima was referrenced in some chapter of Curiosities of Lotus Asia when discussing the topic of the Hakurei God and Shinki was outright mentioned by ZUN in the spellcard commentary for Byakuren's Devil Recitation.
ZUN said the events of the PC-98 era are still canon as long as there aren't any contradictions, and as far as the main events of the PC-98 era go, there's barely any contradictions, well, aside from some very minor stuff mainly on HRtP.

>not a single one of them is good at shmups, let alone danmaku
And how this is related with touhou again?!?

Yeah, just like retards engaging in game wars shitflinging and boasting his WR or boomers who think only TH6-8 has good music.

Every discussion can goes south but at least unlike substanceless porn discussion, game/lore/music are part of the series and dismissing one of them is fucking stupid.

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The real problem is expecting anything good from western fans in the first place.

Alice and Yuuka are merely rebooted versions of their former selves, alice is just a city magician no longer from makai and yuuka is just some old and powerful youkai that reimu APPARENTLY fought long time ago.
Everything else are just references, but that's it. Byakuren using the same spellcard doesn't make shinki canon

>only TH6-8 has good music.
But that's true.

*1-5

He said "harder" which I think is fair. Plenty of shmups out there aren't bullet hells.

Even if rebooted, they are still confirmed to be the same characters they were in the PC-98 era, none of the new stuff added to them in the new canon clashes with their old interpretations
>alice is just a city magician no longer from makai
She was never referrenced as a makai citizen/Shinki creation unlike characters like Louis or Yumeko, she could have easily been in Makai just to improve her magic (hence, why she got a grimoire for her extra boss fight that she still keeps with her to this day)

>yuuka is just some old and powerful youkai that reimu APPARENTLY fought long time ago.
That's a short explanation written by ZUN to explain new fans unfamiliar with the old PC-98 who she actually was, it doesn't clash with any of the events of LLS.

>Byakuren using the same spellcard doesn't make shinki canon
What makes her canon is the fact that ZUN still referred to Shinki by name, and said that Byakuren probably learned Devil Recitation from her during her time in Makai, implying that Shinki is still in there.

>the fact that ZUN still referred to Shinki by name
Did he really? I thought that part was made up by the thwiki autists and their non-canon spell card comments. Everything else in your post is correct though.

>Even if rebooted, they are still confirmed to be the same characters they were in the PC-98 era
Yes. But only those two. Everything else is not until they get the same treatment, otherwise they'd appear in the gensokyo chronicles and scoow.

why do niggers want pc-98 to be non-canon

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No fun allowed. Touhou is serious settings.

they're literally too stupid to run np2.exe and play the fucking games
shitposting is how they cope with mental retardation

Not to be a broken record, but ZUN already said that everything in the PC-98 era is still canon as long as shit doesn't overlap.
Or what, will you also say Genji wasn't canon either? Despite ZUN already confirming that he moved to some pond behind the shrine (Even if he never another appearance again)?

>Yes. But only those two. Everything else is not until they get the same treatment
You aren't the one who makes the final call on that, I'm afraid.

Not that it matters to me. For Touhou itself as a whole, those games and characters are so irrelevant that might not even exist lol

It's too ambiguous.
I'm not saying it can't be canon but as it is now saying it's canon or not-canon hold the same weight. It's all just speculation.

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Q: Are the PC-98 games considered canon compared to the Windows series?

ZUN: It's the same world. There are a few contradictions in the story when putting the PC-98 and Windows games side by side, but I would take reference from the latest games to consider what is canon.

ZUN is often ambiguous (or at least translations are) but this is not one of those times.

Wake me up when he will actually incorporate it in the windows canon and print works

this is what happens when you let waifu and lorefags into your community with open arms they shit up everything, and every place players attempt to retreat to ends up the same, /jp/, /vg/ and Yea Forums threads are the same. At this point if you want to talk about the games you need to explicitly tell the waifufags to fuck off and dedicate your time to bumping dead threads. Cancerous community desu

I played the fuck outta these games back in middle school and managed to get a few Hard 1ccs in, clear a few Extras, and beat ISC for the most part. My problem is that as I get older I care less about obsessing over a 30 minute long game (and 6-8 don't do well on WIndows 10) so I just browse h-doujins for fun. I still remember the days when flash animations by IOSYS were all the rage, McRoll'd was the spawn of Satan, and MADS were in circulation spamming remixes of Flandre's them and Nights of Nights. At least new Touhou game every two years can be fun.

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He probably said it's the same place, Gensokyo, but not necessarily in the same timeline.
Probably.

Sorry, were we too loud? No one is stopping you from talking about anything.

>Not that it matters to me
Yet you've spent all this time funposting.

>For Touhou itself as a whole, those games and characters are so irrelevant that might not even exist lol
The same could be said for 40-60% of the Windows cast if we are perfectly honest, GC and Scoow have barely added anything of worth to most characters (It has even made a few of them worse, like Ran and Chen in Scoow).
The Touhou franchise and its universe could still run if you removed like from a third to a half of the entire cast (which is outright filled with filler charactes such Daiyousei, Rumia, Momiji, Wriggle, Kagerou, Banki, etc). Even if they were gone barely anything would happen to Gensokyo

Why does /jp/ hate Japan Yea Forums?

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Because they know a lot about it.

The difference is that for Touhou those characters actually exist

Haha nice one wanna rub dicks together

>let alone one of the hardest shmup series

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ZUN introduces a lot of characters whose activities aren't intended to intersect with Reimu and Marisa's lives very often. This shouldn't be a problem. Gensokyo doesn't just have 10 or 20 people and youkai living in it. It's full of people, most of whom we haven't been introduced to. Most people on earth don't show up in your life's story but it still matters to them whether they exist or not.

Because there is only so much you can discuss with the main games alone. Even fucking shmups general is barren wasteland. How do you think discussion about bunch of simple and slightly-different bullets hells alone would flourish?

ZUN churned out tons of printworks and manga means he focus on the lore as much as music and gameplay. Hell, I'm sure he designed the games around the plot he want to make. Saying lore discussion should fuck off means you already took away 1/3 of what Touhou is.

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The only actual difference is that newer characters have more info/flavor text than the old ones, that's really about it.

>this whole fucking thread

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Of course I expect you to. You do it every fucking time you see a thread.

will host soku for (You)s

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>ZUN churned out tons of printworks and manga means he focus on the lore
Those works are mainly about characters and their interactions. Lore is literally the last thing ZUN focuses on.

I beat all of them up to Mountain of Faith since that was the last one when I was into it, haven't played a Touhou game in ages

But Touhou doesn't have any shitty character or music though?

Still ten times better than any other thread we've had in weeks because the image spammers aren't here yet

I've beaten DDC on normal and the extra stage. Bow to me casuals.

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>Those works are mainly about characters and their interactions.
And mechanism behind Gensokyo, relationship between different creatures, industrialization, religion influence, the nature of different worlds, etc. Character interactions are also part of lore.

>every place players attempt to retreat to ends up the same
This thread started with an awoo image. Nice hidey hole, primary.

Now do it again with Reimu instead.

DDC is a trash unbalanced game though. Call me again after doing the same with MarisaA.

I'm starting to see user's point now.

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FYI not all lorefags are shitty waifufags and I do hate waifu circlejerk.
But if you dislike 2hu lore that much I suggest you stick with other shmup instead.

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A or B?

A

I have 1cc'd Touhou 13 on hard, am I good enough?

No.
Try other games.

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You will never be good enough.
But still better than the majority of 2hufags on Yea Forums who never even bother.

i fucking despise awoo vermin

>MarisaA
Doesn't matter. DDC showers you with resources. The only bad shottype in DDC is Sakuya B because her bomb do no damage.

Name one (1) Touhou game that is balanced.

Shoot the Bullet

The only games i've beaten are the fighting ones. Now I just play eratohoTW and the mount and blade touhou mod because it's comfy.

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EoSD

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The shot type balance in EoSD is literally perfect, the shots are distinct enough from one another without having one clear winner.

>Touhou doesn't have any shitty character

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>>Not a single one of them is good at shmups, let alone danmaku

wrong, lots of /jp/edos are good at the games

I 1CC'd a few of them. But that's been a while I'm probably total shit right now.

>needing bombs in the first place
SakuyaB is utter garbage, but MarisaA is so much worse it's not even funny. Look at that damage output nigger, it's just not there.

She has the best theme of HM

>eratohoTW
>Not eratohok

I feel it in my bones

Not saying much unless you count Koishi and Kokoro's themes. Or if you like calm jazz music as opposed to the rock ballads of ULiL

What makes PoDD better than PoFV?

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>can't even bombspam the game properly
Like whoa dude.

>At this point if you want to talk about the games you need to explicitly tell the waifufags to fuck off and dedicate your time to bumping dead threads.

Duh, waifufags need to fuck off but if you take everything else away and just leave the shmup discussion it will be as dead as /shmupg/ in no time.

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am I primary if I 1cc'd SA hard then gave up getting good at STGs to play fighting games and never touched them again out of apathy

It doesn't matter whether you're primary or not as long you're not shitposting.
Good job 1cc'ing SA though.

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I wish more 2hu had the gameplay of youmu in TH13, I honestly think it was one of the best thing ZUN added to his games, I want more unique playstyle

Uhhh, Touhou 17 has Youmu you know.

17 Youmu is literally 13 Youmu

Oh nice, I haven't played 17 yet, I still wish for more variety than just what he did to Youmu

Boy you gotta love Wolf Youmu in Touhou 17.

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>this upset people don't recognize PC-98

MS is the only good PC-98 game anyway. Why defend it so much?

Why is this dork so smug

She is the most fun character to play as in a long time.

Thx for being honest, I'm trying touhou 12 on hard but it's fucking my ass

Shit dude are you me? I'm exactly the same except I managed to beat Ran and Yukari.

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>Please tell me Yea Forums can actually beat these games.
Wait a minute, there's a game?

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Years ago there was a Touhou All Star video on youtube which was basically a boss rush with each boss just having their signature spellcard or something similar. It was never released because the dev got super mad when ZUN told him not to use the original game music for the project. Did anything similar ever come out and is it worthwhile?

Just beat Flandre with ReimuB, just panicking at Then there will be none and at the end of Ripples of 495 years because it was my first time doing those in years, at least.

Have LoLK sealed sitting around, is thcrap really the only translation patches around these days? A service that constantly connects to Internet for a fucking translation seems really shitty.

Ten Desires on hard is around the same level as other Touhou games on normal. Ten Desires is by far the easiest of the modern games

Why don't you try PCB or DDC instead? It's better for you to start with less gimmicky game with mild difficulty.

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Don't shill era games please.
Thank you.

Play it in Japanese, don't use that crap. Unfortunately there's nothing else.

I thought Clartranny is also doing translations.
I heard he did one for VD at least.

As far as I know, TD/ULiL were the last hard patches we got. user asked about LoLK anyway.

Isn't that basically photo games?

The photo games have different mechanics and spells tuned to those changes, though.

Touhou is too boring for me. I like my shmups fast and explosive. The slow-moving projectiles put me to sleep 30 minutes in.

What, is the /hgg/ thread having trouble with too many newcomers? These games are great and I want everyone to have fun playing them.

I have 1cced touhou 8, but I gotta admit all touhou games are fun because of good difficulty curve, they get hard after stage 3 mostly but all arcade shmups get way too hard after 2 stages, and its usually not a small jump, and arcade shmups on the easier side like 19xx, sonic wings, gunhed, firebarell etc. get super boring after a while, so its either super autistically hard or super boring. but touhou(can't speak about all of them but 6,7,8) have achieved very nice balance between fun and difficulty.

I'm sure AI in PoDD has a timer that has to go down to 0 without you getting hit to suicide into a bullet

>says porn are great
>tell lorefags to kill themselves

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What about the balancing? Is Yumemi better than Eiki?

I beat them all using trainers because I don't have autism.

I think difficulty shouldn't spike that much though, which most Touhou games do.
The difference between Stage 3 and Stage 4 are crazy sometimes.

Is it true that most 2hu games don't work on Windows 10? Which ones are they?

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I picked up the torrent on nyaa and they all work fine, even the pc emulator can still use controllers without issue, but the control scheme itself seems to be random depending on the game.

>dedicate your time to bumping dead threads
>Cancerous community desu

Sounds like shmup fanbase in general

6-10 has input lag (and 10000fps on 6) which can be fixed with vpatch. 11 onwards don't really have any major issues

Does the torrent include pc-98 games and its emulator?

Seething pc-98 fag

I ccd a few in normal and some extras but I never did all the ones I wanted to beat.
Got frustrated and stopped playing when I lost all my lives instead of continuing even if it wasn't a 1cc so I didn't have experience with the endings of the games.

Question, how hard would you consider this game in comparison to 2hu?

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But shmup is better than danmaku

oh hey guys whats going on in here

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Choose your character

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It's not that much for the genre in general

ok, but why sakuya?

I beat eosd once using one continue on normal

I'm playing them in order starting from 6. 1cc'd EoSD and PCB on normal, now I'm on IN. Skipped IaMP because >fighting games

touhou is dead

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At least rush the story mode because Suika.

I watched a no-commentary playthrough on youtube while mashing buttons like a retard, so I think I got the full experience.

You got pretty close to actually beating it, why didn't you? You could gloat about being good if you did.

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Good

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>shitty music
What shitty music?

Mima is the best character in the game. Prove me wrong.

Could anyone explain to me how Sakuya's A shot type works in DDC?
Thanks in advance.

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Danmaku shmups are the most boring fucking genre, it's no wonder that 2hufags talk about the waifus.

It's a shame that proper shmups have gone out of style because of danmaku idiots looking for pretty bullet patterns.

youtu.be/gp2QpfkKGZc

She pin knives to enemies, slowing them down (and the timer for bosses). After she run out of knives or release focus they explode

Dumb fairy

Touhou has
Shit art
shit characters
shit fanbase
ok music
I do not get the appeal

If Touhou were more like actual shmup I doubt the waifufags would be different.

fairies are not dumb!

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Cute cock

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>I never did all the ones I wanted to beat.

What games do you want to beat?

mostly 11 and 12 got to the final boss on both but I haven't really played any for years and I don't have the motivation to go back now
I didn't even finish the demo of 17 on my first try

>Download this for MAME
>It's boring as shit
Cave was a mistake.

Yeah, those were among the hardest games in the series.

shmups are just pattern memorization

the only kind of difficult video games are fighting games and Yea Forums is awful at them

I love this meme, you never disappoint Yea Forums.

cope

So what do you hope for the full release of this game?

What are the chance that ZUN will nerf the hype mode, especially otter?

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zun's 13-17 music style

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Are you joking? You literally need to memorize your character's moveset and frame data before even thinking about getting good at a fighting game. Compare that to shmups where proficient players can clear most patterns on their first try and realize how fucking dumb you sound.

Someone tried making their own version with more characters, but it was made in Java of all things, and had a stage portion and story for some reason. I don't think it was ever finished.

Seethe.

...okay? you don't magically get good when you learn the frame data, retard. that's when you start playing.

>before even thinking about getting good at a fighting game
compared to
>mastering the shmup

Why did you post?

Yeah because fast aimed/random pattern doesn't exist, right?

>rng
wow, what a fun competitive experience!
thanks for doing one part of my job for me.

post yfw hecatia namedropped a pc98 stage location

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>shmup
>competitive

Nigga you're playing the wrong game.

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exactly.

>hating based ZUNTZ
youtube.com/watch?v=FPpwwPYgoAc

I'm more concerned with that retarded guitar and those static drums he keeps using.

Yes, that's what I said. Fighting games have an initial memorization requirement and shmups don't, therefore fighting games rely on memorization more than shmups do.

>Touhou
>Hard
You've never played a shmup have you, huh

Lake of blood has been a location in hell in most lore. It's not an exclusive PC-98 location.

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It's somewhat on the same level due to extra dolls being relatively easy to obtain, but that game has a heavy focus on mechanics specific to it. Specifically, crashing into enemies to explode a doll is VERY important, save for a few of them (and most of those are unlockable), as is activating that little zone you get when you're near enemies, which slows down all bullets in that zone and transforms them into gems if that enemy is killed (which I guess you could compare to the photo mechanic in STB style Touhou games).

Mugenkan isn't in Hell, nigger. That's just a discrepancy you've brought up yourself.

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There are no other good ZUNTZ than that one.

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Soku time, host it!

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But Hecatia mentioned that place as part of Hell, therefore it's not the same place as the one in PC-98, is what I'm saying.

94.172.191.5:10800

It's the Hell of that place, not a place that is in Hell.

>What are the chance that ZUN will nerf the hype mode, especially otter?

Probably never.
He's damn lazy.

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Did he balance DDC shot types?
Did he nerf HSiFS Fall?

Daily reminder that yukari is a flat little girl and the fighting games appearance is non canon

I hope the later stages will be LoLK-tier hard at least to compensate for the overpowered hyper-mode.
After all ZUN said the game will be aggressive. I hope he didn't mean that WE are the one being too aggressive.

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I think PC-98 games sucks.

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Stay mad

Posting the best girl

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Why are the spin-off shmups mostly better than mainline?

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Only the Daily Mail simulators

what a lewd little umbrella

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why would I play a video games when I can shitpost, and listen to 2hu eurobeat?
I mean check this out:
youtube.com/watch?v=_8mlH9-giXs
youtube.com/watch?v=w4VSn91-Lf8
youtube.com/watch?v=oFDuB8oaC4s

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BOING BOING

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stop playing on easy then
higher difficulties are almost always sped up

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post the pasta, you know the one

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2hu I'd reglining

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Since waifuposter is here I hope mod just delete the thread this time.

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See you in /jp/

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One try to save this thread
What game are you working on?
Any spellcards giving you trouble?

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I hate touhoufags so goddamn much. Doesn't matter what you are talking about, they try to force their touhou shit at everything. It's fucking exhausting.

Kogasa is best 2hoe.

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Don't prolong the suffering. It never worked before.
Just let them be so mod can work faster.

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Don't discourage actual discussion.
Sage if you have to but fuck off with your 'give up' attitude. Just close the tab and don't reply.
As long as there is at least one user that can benefit from this thread I'll be here.

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I want to prolong just to make him work towards that image limit. Proceed.

Not many people want to discuss anything in soon-to-be deleted waifu thread but okay.

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You know what to do with posts that are considered as spam. Let mods take care of it.

UFO
I still don't understand Shou's rotating laser

What's a secondary?

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Decided to go back to the series after a long break and currently doing PCB again.

Stop posting lewds of my wife

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>mods will just move the thread or delete it instead of banning the fucking spammer
Every time

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