UNIST Thread

God I hope they add her, she looks so much fun to play as. Reminds of vanguard princess where the girl I mained had 2 guns. That was a fun stance character

I'll take note of these.

Btw, have we finalized the rule set for this years tourney? I haven't given it much thought, but I figure we should get that figured out and pick a date so we can create a sign up page and remind people so the less than regular people who roll through have a chance to sign up as well.

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Neat, will have to try that then. Gotta undo a lot of muscle memory though.

In terms of general character advice, how important is having a pin ready? Should it just be something to pick up mid combo or should I be holding a button at pretty much all times? I played a bit of birdie in SFV and bullhorn seemed to be the latter depending on the matchup which I had trouble remembering to do.

Getting a sign-up page would be ideal so we can get some names down. I was thinking of identifying two people to be team leaders just so we don't have two strong people on the same team.
I'll say this now, when we do get that page up and running, let's use the lobby names so we don't get confused like last time.

Good match Dia

People will just sit and down-back through everything you throw at him so having that high-low mix-up at such a distance for Hilda makes for scary pressure and makes them that much more antsy.
At least when I fight a Hilda, the good ones make me question my position all the time. The mediocre ones just let me shield all their lows for free GRD.

kw: pclobby

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We could do it through challonge I think, that way people can sign up with their psn name's to make the process of figuring this shit out easier.
speaking of, pc lobby is consistently getting people now, should a pc tourney be hosted as well? I'm don't really join those that often, but if someone would want to organize that, possibly on a different day, that would be cool.

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I have no business with the PC lobby so that's up to those involved.

they didn't actually add some random no-name fighter to the roster rather than the like 8 other known characters right?

No they didn't

Who exactly would be the no-name?

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I'm starting to incorporate using D again in neutral, not all the time but every so often and it seems to be doing really well for me.

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supposedly kamone confirmed in a stream that joker was just a fan character and that they have not intention of ever making him playable. Which is a shame since a gambit type would be way more interesting than gun nun.

Which room should a beginner join?

The one that's up. You might as well just get fucked now.

Really depends on fan outcry. At least they said he's not 100% out.

What's Kaguya's EXS power?

What's the lobby's name? I only see 2 and both don't require passwords.

I feel like Kamo would always pick characters he really wants in first before some fan made character.

...

I think I'll have to take up some names now. Depending on the turn out, we'll have the matches be best two out of three per standard tourney rules or go Japanese with single elimination if we get a lot.
We hardly know a thing about her other than the description being "guns and magic"

Is the room full?

Will the tournament be at 12:30 like every other lobby?

Holy shit, yes it is.
That was quick

I'm still interested in seeing how she'll play if they're not going the gun kata route.

yes

It is now. Got 3 more people all of a sudden.

What was the room's name? Will we have another one?

Yeah. It'll be on July 20th so it will be on a Saturday
Redblade will try his best not to pass out and my co-commentator. Now I'm wondering if I can rope maiko into this too

If ya want, I can make a 2nd lobby and I'll play secondaries and stuff. Let me know if you're down and I'll make it happen.

Do it

Cool. I've got it set up. Feel free to join whenever you're ready!

It was short but sweet, GGs Lobby 1! Anyone else is free to join as well.

Same kw.

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I'm here to Yuzu, and ready to luzu.

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that would be breddy gud if we could get both of them into it, but I know maiko has long hours so I'm not sure if he could join. Maybe I'll ask him in discord later. I'm assuming Red will only be on commentary and not playing then? Wouldn't exactly be fair, even if he was the only one on his team.

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Ah I totally thought you'd go for one more FF. Good shit hippie.

Red's gonna stick around and if he isn't passed out by then, he's gonna be the secret arcade boss.

Remember to hold your buttons

Still can't find it. Am I doing something wrong? I've never used player lobbies before so maybe I don't know how this works.

cool, that's fun. I'll try to come up with a rule set for tomorrow, and if all goes well and people like it, I'll put up the sign up page.

Ah. I believe there's an area at the bottom of searching for lobbies called keyword. You put in "vee" when prompted and it should bring the room up.

Or maybe it's at the top.

The PSN lobbies' keyword is vee
The PC lobby keyword is pclobby
It's not the room name but the keyword. These are NA lobbies, and if you can't find the PC one try changing your Steam DL region.

type in the keyword "vee" if you're on playstation and "pclobby" if you're on PC then click Search

I'm making the challonge right now, actually. As long as I'm allowed to change up the rules/tourney set-up once we get a feel for the amount of people, I should be good

I didn't and I'm dead.

The secondary lobby is just the two pros who've been thrashing me all week! You guys tricked me, AND lowered my rank. Do you know how hard it is to see the screen through these tears?

Well I'm dumb. I assumed it was all PC. My bad.

Looks like you've managed to find your way in. Let's have some fun matches!

I feel like even though I'm beginning to understand how the mechanics work at a deeper level and theoretically how to open people up with shit like TRM/beating OSes I'm regressing as a player and I just lose to everyone. Did you all go through stuff like this?

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hippie I can actually see those stutters while spectating, looks like you still need to kill your ISP as much as I do

If you want to see how the ps players play here is the livestream.
youtube.com/watch?v=o9igxPdNugo

Huo, in case you didn't know, you can hold a non D button to recover as soon as possible from a combo. You don't need to manually tap A

He''s definitely still getting some but at least it's not nearly as bad as it was last week.

Yes, I'm still going through that.

This one with dia is bad because he and I have 0 bars atm.
Last night was pretty smooth.

user, you could always hold a button to tech out of a combo. You never needed to tap out.

I think that's the mix of terror and rage speaking. That and recovering just gets me to the next beating faster. At least the ground doesn't hit me as many times...

You're not the only one.

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Constantly.

Yes, that's kind of the point I was trying to teach

Everyone has shit weeks and periods of stagnating.

Yeah. I started losing a lot more once I started trying to expand my defense with OS's and more advanced setups (many of which don't even work if you don't establish respect/fear first)

Shit, I read Huo as "huh"

I get that alarmingly often.

I figured, this slump lately has seemed especially bad compared to when I'm usually trying new stuff so I was wondering if I should stop worrying about it and just keep moving

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I'm in the same exact boat friend. just gotta keep practicing and thinking about what went wrong to fix it.

is that real

Alright, this is temporary but I'm mostly trying to get a feel for how many people are going to sign-up.
July 20th is a Saturday mind you.
challonge.com/tournaments/signup/6pM56gPanP

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>stop worrying about it and just keep moving
Pretty much. It happens all the time to pretty much everyone.

I think it'll click if you persevere long enough. Just continue to have the will to win and the will to learn.

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>0 bars
It's showing 3 bars for me. It's obviously not that, of course, but there's something fundamentally wrong with our connection with eachother specifically.

Yeah
But it's half a joke

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>trading IWs
Off to a pretty fun start already.

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Cant log in from here but i got the day off for it

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It fluctuates every now and then.
The skip earlier was not only accidental but you were reading at a lower bar for me.
>3 bars for me
That must be similar to when me and sean have 3 bars on my end and 0 on the other.

>Two (2) time outs in a row
Sasuga UNIST.

make it so i can sign up

Finally got that sideswitch combo Jesus Christ

Hey hippie, would you be able to play Orie against me if we match up again? I legit need someone to thrust against me.

What did I mess up with on the page?

Anyone have any sort of tricks to refocus yourself when you're having an off day?

Which is more UNI, both being Park+Snow Sisters,

A) both players dash up and db, staring at each other for 5 seconds round start
B) 3 timeouts

Take a break.

idk but it own't let me sign up

Just accept it, I have never gotten back in groove in the same day. You might get better halfway through though.

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You should probably specify it's a PSN tournament.

I mean I can thrust again if you want. I'm just trying to relearn how to dashblock

I just accept my fate and hope it goes away after playing through my mistakes.

a break can definitely help but there are times you just gotta play through it

Maaan, at least you can slump. My gud level's never been high enough to go any lower.

If you would, It's legit fucking with me now. Yuzu shouldn't be allowed to move around like I can against orie since she has such an advantage of her.

GGs PC lobby, gotta get up really early tomorrow to go interview

Fap.

Usually I just let it ride out and hope for better results the next day. The other day I ended up taking about a 30 minute break and coming back and started turning things around so maybe that's more effective?

Yuzu actually blows up thrust very easily if you jumpback enough or time/space your ground slash pressure. Even when I do thrust I can't just spam it against a Yuzu who has those down or I get CH to death.

Ah, good point

Yo claw, try more 66B/66C stuff instead of the windcar follow-ups.

Sounds false to me, usually the thursts come out faster than Yuzu's slashes. Or at least that's been my experience with Orie, but you're the only Orie I've played/ seen in the last 5 months.

Nice read on the divekick m8. I definitely should've prepared for IW after seeing 200 EXS thinking back on it hahaha.

GGs Spoon.

Yeah I keep autopiloting into those when I don't have the resources to make them safe. Ironically I crack under the pressure of it being my turn to pressure.

I don't know what's up. We got 2 more people already signed in

Damn, it's a team thing? I'll stay out to avoid dragging people down.

It's two big teams, don't feel too bad about it. It's a celebration more than a real tourney.

Yeah see atic. That thrust came out way faster than the slash at the start of the second round.

I just ride it out

You might end up surprising yourself.

>Yuzu's counters Vat's sonicboom and hits Vat herself
What iaido sorcery is this?

Yuzu's parry is fucking disgusting

That was A thrust, and I think a certain move retracts Yuzu's hurtbox or hits me out of it clean on round start (or it's done after a slight walkback). Ask Lamp, think he did it to me a couple times the other day.

I finally got through Yuzu's Level 3 combos today, I thought I could do something! Overconfidence is a quick and insidious killer.

>Veil Off is 20 frames of start up
Holy fuck that's slow. No wonder why my parry timing gets messed up

Sounds better than me. You're making progress!

I can't believe I reacted to your side switch dia and did the correct motion for the teleport.

Did I? A thrust and even B thrust is faster than Yuzu's slashes, so I think it might have just been a whiff punish

Wait, jokerman still plays?

Very quick progress, straight into a brick wall.
Yuzu 4-1 is horrifying, I can't even get to the one people like.

The only move I know of that'll somewhat cleanly beat thrust is 2c. It sort of low profiles it, and it's her longest reaching normal.

Did he use to play here? I only saw him yesterday.

If this is Lamp, maybe you did walkback > whiff punish slash or something. I do that a lot with Orie actually, for instance walkback thrust beats stuff like roundstart Eltnum 236A.

How do I Eltnum
I learned some combos but those aren't worth much if I dunno how to make an opening

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Not a sin in being outmatched user, but it is to fail to recognize it.

I think I remember him from way back during western console release.
Then I haven't seen him since.

You should go practice 4-2. Better to learn that and get good at it before learning a combo like 4-1.

Her blockstrings can get real mean.
Like you can try ending a combo in 6B into 22A to keep yourself relative safe. Or test someon's patience by constantly 236[A] in their face with buffed bullets.
Or 2C > 421A > Grab
Or just the usual assault mix-ups

No, another Yuzu player. A normal could probably whiff punish thrust if you're ready for it, stances slashes are way too slow for sure.

I wish I had that prostitute walk speed.

You're telling me to quit?

Don't listen to this guy

Why? Learning how to hold your buttons and cancel them properly is more important.

He's a very strong player. He keeps catching people with Linne's low-strong pixel perfectly (2C? 3C?). Really oppressive corner pressure.

Doing a combo won't teach you how to use stance

I think Orie has the fastest walk speed in the game, followed by Yuzu. Funny how that works, huh...

PC lobby full or just not running?

its full

It's full, but I'm thinking of dropping out soon.

It's full, friend. Make a lobby and post it and some people will hop over, probably.

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Will they finally buff /ourguy/?

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Oh, he's gotten better?
That's good to hear. Last I saw of him, he said he didn't want to bother with combos and just went for like 2k damage stuff.

Obviously, but 4-2 is a great stepping stone. Getting comfortable with 236b[C] is important.
It's how I learned how to get in and our of stance

What do you want buffed for him?
Be specific and don't say everything because I hardly see people play him

That FF just feels made to kill my fireball attempts.

Maybe it's a Linne thing. Sai also didn't have combos for a long time before he really put in the work.

Not him, But I want his EX counter special to be more than a kick that sends the enemy flying far and away and not allowing for a follow up.

I'm out. GG's PC lobby. I really need to learn how to approach Vatista and Yuzu. And welcome to the Yea Forums threads, Venator. Hope you stick around.

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Fix some of his hitboxes, make him able to counter projectiles since that's like half of the cast, make his ex not shit, improve some speed.

I just haven't seen him in a literal year. Figured he stopped

I mean, I think projectiles are the least of his problems. He's got 4 moves that go through them.

Are all you enkidufags on PC?

HOLY FUCK
I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT STUPID MOVE HIT MY SLASH.
Great match Dia, my heart was pumping.

Yeah, it's just hard to stay up late. I still play in the afternoon on discord. I'm benching Mika for a bit and trying to focus on Linne rn.

Yo, does anybody know which song has that little piano-thing at the end? Like everything else goes quiet and it's just this kinda sad pianoish thing. I'm trying to think of a better descriptor, but that's all I've got.

UhhhhHHH snow sisters?

that was a pretty nice confirm bench. 4100 off of a j.[C] starter i think it was.

If it's piano try Byakuya's theme

Thank you, I'll try it when I'm 1P again.

Look at this shit: youtube.com/watch?v=7Im5ZrG7Eb8
This makes me sad on a metaphysical level.

that's pretty much what I use for any corner starter midair like 623a/b cs
gotta make every opening count

All they need are a few QoL hitbox buffs and an increased throw reward. It's very easy to reaction block his two charged overheads, yet his midscreen throw oki is nonexistent. The best change they could honestly give him is instead of a ton of big buffs, let him have a Gord-esque midscreen combo followup to his throw.

>Hope you stick around
So do I lol. BlazBlue was what got me into fighting games and this game gives me the same feeling. Just wish it had more players as it feels everyone who does play at this point is too good for me have a chance against.

No one is going to say 214C is good
But projectiles are the least of his problems

I don't even think that's optimal but it's the easiest route for netplay since timing 22x delay 236b is a pain in the fucking ass on 5f

jesus, that's a scary vatista.

They could at least make it a higher range/be able to combo afterwards.

I land 6B so rarely on atic anymore that I can't even finish the combo

Sorry lad, you missed the initial new player rush like 2? months ago. There's only 2 or 3 other news players you can try your hand on in PC. Maybe more people will pop up from the sale, but you're just gonna have to suck up beating steamrolled for 2 months. Alternatively you can try discord and look for games in their beginners channel, that's really active at any time of the day I think.

GGs pc lobby, feels nice to get absolutely destroyed after scraping by a few wins. Not hitting training is showing its ugly effects.

I never go for 22x stuff, not because i have trouble with the timing, just because i never know what starters lead into it properly.

Sorry for the lag in that one Adamant, haha. Bro usually downloads anime around the same time every week.

Where is that discord? I keep seeing people mention it but what is it? Reddit?

Nice fighting though I must say! Nice to be able to fight Merkava since there aren't too many that play him around these parts.

Since the clear or whatever the name is coming out, choose at least one more Blitzkampf character to be a guest.

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GGs.

Easy

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Your pressure was pretty good when I was watching your matches with the others on PC Friday. Keep at it for sure. At this point I just have the advantage in knowing the mirror matchup though.

I'd rather a different game

Next guest character will be Naoto to spite the modders and promote P5A

Dante from the Devil May Cry series, then.

GGs PC bretheren. Gonna call it here since it's gonna be time for bed by the time my turn rolls around again in a lobby this large. Fun times. Nice to see a new person and improvement all around from you guys.

GGs.

GGs and good luck my man.

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ggs bro

Damn, it was Byakuya's theme, which seems to be on the only OST I can'd find a DL for. Fuuuuck whoever came up with how fighting games and their soundtracks release.

I don't think UNI has enough buttons for Dante. I don't know how he works in marvel but I assume marvel has more than 3 buttons.

>just short like 1cm from kuuga saving me from death
hahaha

I'd jump in and play my scrub Eltnum but I stayed up till the time I usually wake up. Sorry fellas.

gg Melk. I've gotta come around and fight your Vat more. it's crazy how helpless i was in match we had.

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it's not a problem offline, but it can be online. the damage tradeoff isn't worth it imo
also holy shit why can't I do the dash 5[c] anymore, that's like the 5th time tonight I've gotten 66c which never fucking happens anymore

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>a fellow Linne/Mika player
Brother! I hope you also have Enkidu on deck too.

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It has 4

In that* match we had.

Oh really? I thought all capcom fighters had 6

4 buttons but instead of light fireball or medium fireball, you have a different move for each input and button.
So 236A/Yea ForumsC/D would all be a different move for Dante.
So yeah, I agree, he's too limited for this system. Bring in Nero or something

Whoa seriously? That does sound churazy. I really should try out Marvel one of these days.

Nero would pretty much just be an Order Sol clone

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Nothing wrong with that
Yeah, Dante's mvc3 moveset is insanely varied and only like 2-3 moves out of like 40 are not used practically.

You know you want Vergil in here. More lengthy katanas can't hurt, right?

let's get johnny too while we're at it

I want off phonons wild ride

I still think adding one of the skullgirls would be cool.

I'm waiting for all 3 Phonons to show up on a fated day in PC...

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Please don't make me re-learn sword loops again

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I like the way you think. Can you imagine a team fighter with them all?

>I hope you also have Enkidu on deck too.
One no-range low tier is enough lol. I've done all his trials but never played him in a real match.

Looking forward to it. I'm always up to play different people.
Also yeah, the break I took from Vatista to play other characters expanded my knowledge and view of the game a lot. So when I came back to her it was easy to look at my play critically after watching other Vats and make some changes.
I think I'm starting to reach the point where I might lose the right to call myself a Nanase main.

only if it is big band. we need a boxer function in this game.

how about we just make a new fighting game with nothing but ridiculously long katana users in it.

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Bummer, but I understand hahaha. Hope we can have some fun mirror matches in the future. I play on PC as well (though not as often as in PS lobbies).

Imagine the smell at that game's locals/tournies.

I will interject right now and tell you that unlike Yuzu and Johnny, Vergil's range isn't nearly as big nor does he involve stances.
He's relatively straightforward and his "projectile" is underrated as fuck

Now I'm motivated.

Vergil, pls.

well he wouldn't necessarily need to be a clone of his marvel incarnation in such a game, though as far as UNI guests go their MO seems to be to keep them as close as possible to their original game

imagine the timeouts
I don't know which phonon you're playing that you hate the matchup so much lolb, you really know how to exploit the holes in space she can't cover

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gg pc bros

Hey I can actually do Eltnum combos now.
The magic of not practicing.

ggs

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I'm glad your thrusting against me again but now I remember why I really detest Orie. Being able to do a thrust in to a CS is some real horse shit.

Thanks for having me guys. I'll be back tomorrow.

It's a strange feeling playing against a Yuzu who seems to actually be thinking and learning.

GGs m8 wherever you came from! Glad to have ya aboard.

lolb is really good at the matchup, better not exploit that 66[b] weakness too much or he'll start shielding it

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Looks like you've got those whiff cancels in your combos down pat now Lamp. Nice stuff!

(´・ω・`)

Man JK is so good at reacting to my teleports and assaults.

It's a strange feeling playing as Yuzu and never thinking or learning.

Apparently on clearlamp's blog where he interviewed Kure, Kure doesn't actually think much during matches and does everything on instinct. One day Icy will approach those heights, becoming really good without any conscious thought during matches. He's already become decent enough while still not knowing how to use CS properly after two years.

I can't tell if you're being serious.

I just didn't feel like playing against Phonon almost 6 times in a row in a like 7 person lobby that night. What are the odds? I don't know if I'm actually playing at spaces Phonon has trouble with, if I am it's subconscious or I'm just guessing. There's some annoying Phonon things I haven't 100% figured out an answer to, they only work like half the time, or seem kinda jank. Like for air fireballs after whiff, seems a bit sketch to try and run up 5c aa, sometimes it works, sometimes it trades, sometimes it whiffs/loses.

You are? You knocked me out of the air so many times.

Is Yuzuriha secretly a gorilla character?

My impression of icey's skill still hasn't changed from
>throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks
This wouldn't really happen if you could punish Yuzuriha but man, that just doesn't happen
Icey's compliments are weird and his judgment is incredibly flawed. Don't take him too seriously.

>shield pho 66[b] which is like -30 something
>don't punish with anything
>tilt off the planet
why am I like this

It's a weird state of gorilla where you have to overcome a significantly high execution barrier

I'm gonna dip on you guys, maybe go play some VNs. Do I romance Michiru or Amane?
Anyway, thanks for the continued beating. I know it means you love me.

can we get a timeskip between now and UNCLR? I'm tired of Linne low profiling shit that works on everyone else.

He's converting a ton more into his full combos and has cut down a tiny bit on the wakeup buttons on defense. Just being able to have good Yuzu pressure and convert off hits can go a long way given the character.

You're going to have to figure out another way of opening me up besides those overheads Sai

I can't believe you blocked both VO's Dia. That shit ain't right, you're taking away my chances at a purple rank when I'm so close.
Me and Kure are basically one in the same. There is no time to think while playing Yuzu, you have to try new shit and the old shit to catch people off guard.

perhaps more of an orangutan than a true gorilla

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Amane's one big flashback that can get boring at times, but it has an okay climax and it's better than Michiru's route which is honestly pretty dumb. Then again, I wasn't that much of a fan of Grisaia so you can disregard my opinions if you're enjoying it.

Cherry is a slut, Lemon is a retard (j-just pretending...!), pick your flavour.

GGs man. You've been improving, even if it's only little by little. I can't speak for everybody but that's how I was for months until experience started to take form.

Grisaia rubbed me the wrong way so I dropped it like a bad habit. I've heard overwhelming accounts of Michiru's route being good while Amane's is shit, which is sad because Amane appealed to me while Michiru didn't.
but what do i know, i only play moege

wew, I can't do anything right tonight

It sure doesn't feel like it to me.

Yet I still feel like he's not thinking.

Grisaia was just a author wank fest to make a guy have everything and damaged women that will be on his cock because UR MY HERO.

Quitting while I'm ahead. GGs pc lobby.

Atic you have better defense than like 99% of my ranked opponents.
Part of it feels like the match-up

PC lobbies still going? Rushed home to try another control scheme that might not wreck my hands and might let me do more with vatista down the line.

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GGs, maybe you can play more often if the threads started an hour or two earlier? A seemingly growing list of people who would benefit or be able to play earlier.

I already said I don't have time to think. I'm not a genius like the rest of you people, plus If I have time to think I should be teleporting or slashing.

Case
In
Point

Yeah, probably a good idea to switch if you confirm it's better. I don't have any hand pains or fatigue from playing Yuzu now with my new grip, I think.

there's still 3 of us left, but beware, it's nothing but full screen slashes and whip cracks here.

If I think during a match I'm a sitting duck. Plus thinking has never gotten me anywhere in life.
How do you even think during a match anyway? You aren't moving if you're thinking.

You're supposed to think during your combos/ their combos. at least i think that's when normal people do it.

Well that was my implication as well, he's going off instinct and muscle memory.

What matchup? If this is hippie it's probably more person-to-person than a Hyde-Orie thing since we've probably played each other the most respectively.

I can't pick between railing my favorite Hidamari Sketch girl, or hearing Sumika get railed again. Do I go red hair n' cute stomach for that Yuzu factor?

That's the thing.
I hardly ever employ new tactics so it just feels like me playing the character with more predictable strings feels a bit less advantageous then someone with j214 and that damnable jC

What the fuck? how? I'm too busy concentrating on my buttons and making sure I do them correctly. What exactly should you be thinking about anyway?

I usually think about Yuzu's tits during my combos

Which oki setup to go for off your current combo route options would be an immediate concern
You're going to want those combos so deeply burned into your muscle memory that they happen automatically once they've begun
is probably a better choice though

a couple things off the top of my head
>occupying that quadrant in the opposite diagonal of phonon requires a ton of commitment to contest outside of b pillar range
>you work the assault mix a ton, which pretty much requires a read to beat
>if phonon is ever out of slash range you teleport on top of her immediately before I can throw a fireball or charge grd
>you never teleport above me in ranges I can DP or FF
if you tell me what exactly you're referring to I can probably give you an answer

I've been playing for 2 years and not a day has gone by that I'm not thinking constantly agonizing over the 66b in Yuzu's BnB. Plus I still don't fully understand how to oki so I just back away and make sure there is a good amount of space between me and the other dude.

The new D placement feels weird but I could get used to this.
You a bitch for that mag

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I know when I play Vatista, whenever I start a ground combo, need to think about whether or not I chase them into the air or do an energy ball to get some distance. It depends on where we are on screen and how much health they have left.

That would be nice. I start playing super recklessly the later it gets.

I just picked up this game the other day and still havnt pick a character yet?
who is the most snowflake pick?

In general I think both of us have got to work on varying our offense. A few people at my locals are starting to kick my ass more because my strings and approach are too predictable after they've seen it for months, and I still do dumb shit from bad muscle memory and sperg out too much.

We actually talk a lot at locals about playing "real UNI" as in playing the fundamental frametrap/throw/assault game and baiting/running OSes. A lot of people there are now getting real good at it and some of the better players can still kick asses using secondary or tertiary characters mostly riding on their fundamental systems knowledge, while meanwhile I still keep getting 2B/A/crouch tech over half the time I go for the AA OS and my subs are gimmicky as shit. It's unfortunate that 4-6f is our usual connection since I think it's harder to work on playing real UNI above a certain delay.

Is Yuzu a real big sis, or is she just a whore?

Enkidu

The rest of the list probably isn't as accurate for regions outside of Japan

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Yeah, I'm not as smart as you, I can't think that far ahead.

ggs Sai. Fun games

Chaos

>You a bitch for that mag
I really hope you're referring to my corner crossup, i spent a decent amount of time getting the timing for that just right, and i'm really pleased with how it's come out.

GGs Lamp. Got a place to be right now even though it's late so I can't continue those fun matches unfortunately haha.

Thanks for the fun ones and thanks for all those who joined up Lobby 2!

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Damn when the hell did redblade get here? I didn't notice all this time

That list is old

You ain't catching me with my own trick that easily anymore

Phonon, think about it, what's more snowflake than picking one of the most popular characters to out snowflake the other snowflakes? also we don't have enough Phonon's around here.
Real answer would probably be Carmine

Carmine

Enkidu is for low tier netplay heroes who want an excuse for when they lose.
Chaos is the hipster character for hipsters
Carmine on the other hand is for true contrarians

She's Hyde sexual so the former.
She got hit on by this guy and told him to creep somewhere else

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Actually, now that you're here, red. What mic do you have and how much did it go for.

Atic is making me do a lot of IWEXS tonight.

oh wow, I guess neither of those routes work on phonon
good to know

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j[C]? appears to be a really good normal for patroling the air against Yuzu, absurd range, and you can fireball on whiff to help mitigate risk, I think you can jA on whiff as well?

The diagonal nature of the air fireballs make them pretty annoying, since they're +. 4b is apparently an option, but trying it, it's very hard to adjust it for spacing and for the 2 speeds, since the fireball can go low enough to just CH 4b.

I feel like 22c>air fireball is something I should be able to contest or punish, but haven't found anything.

421a teleport is a no go, since whip reaches far enough to call me out for it.

Yeah I'm just mad my response to assault is still ducking.

Also kind of mad at that "pressure" I used against park and lolb. I was entirely too scared of them doing anything the whole time.
Oh well I got what I needed. GGs.

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GGs PC lobby. Eventually i'll steal all of bench's good combos, but not tonight.

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Well if there's one thing I need to steal from the likes of other Hydes, it's definitely more 2A staggers and 3C.
Problem is that I hardly get to fight too many more. I fought blacklionouro tonight and he was a lot easier than I imagined but he did have his 3C game down.
It only helps strengthen the idea that every Hyde's weakness is just another Hyde

ggs. I've been up way longer than I should have.

j[c] is very slow when you're in stance in the air and fireballs won't cover that space across the screen and off the ground

you also need to start shielding 66[b] if you can react to it, there's a reason I only really use it for people getting overzealous with wakeup low shields

>Everyone with their goddamn make myself a hit-box gap-closer move into CS

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just stuff it bro

>that pic
great now i want to go watch some mugen, what have you done?

Meteor mic, i think it was $50?

Dark Ronald is old school

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Outside of stance it seems solid, in stance I'm probably going to do the lower angled slash which probably whiffs? Fireballs don't cover full screen, but neither do slashes.

this orie is pretty good

Guess 50 bucks is the baseline amount that I'm going to invest in.

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I liked rare akuma

what is the highest amount of frame delay too still consider playable?

Oh shit I just noticed this wagner was RB35.

5-6 is the breaking point

Anything higher than 3f feels awful imo

4

Only about a week old

I'd agree on 4

Gonna end when it's my turn

>outside of stance
when exactly is that lmao
I'm getting a lot of work on my OS skills during these matches, it's great and the matches are fun too

redblade when are you going to bully the PC lobby again, we have no wag players and melk said you were here the other day

4 i can still adjust too, anything above that i drop all my spaghetti

How did you block that IWEXS? You clearly did your 2c

who is the ryu of unist?
is it hyde or orie?

Akatsuki

hyde and linne is the ken of unist

Hyde technically.
But Enkidu or Akatsuki can fit the bill too I guess. Akatsuki more so but imagine Ryu had a double jump and his tatsu acted like an anti-air

I fucked up the combo, I coulda IWEXSd
Oh well, GGs everyone.

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Good games everyone. I think I was playing really well for the first hour or two, but towards the end I was pretty sloppy. Still the 4 or so matches I had with Dia were tons of fun, though having to play atic makes me want to put a bullet in my brain.
See you all tomorrow

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ggs everyone, going to have to grind the OS to stop getting that damn 2B. For some reason it felt like I dashblocked a little better tonight.

I can't believe atic is a bully now

GGs all

Shit, are you actually just punishing me when you think I won't slash, instead of when I'm out of slashes or when I'm likely going to exit since I'm almost out of slashes?

He always has been, he was programmed to be one after all.

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Park, if you're still here, are you still doing PC lobby streams?

>>outside of stance
>when exactly is that lmao
I still don't really get this either, it seems like Yuzu has no downtime between running out of slashes and being back in stance with all her slashes back

How many buttons does this game have

3 for attacks and 1 for system mechanics

4

I need to be better about that but I generally meant that most of the match you're going to be in stance
I want to keep playing but my hands are starting to hurt and my execution is getting sloppy. It's a shame since it felt like we were really getting into a groove there towards the end
ggs man
start shielding 66b high on reaction, even if you shield uncharged it's a free punish. mag can't keep getting away with it

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It probably seems like she has no downtime since most chars can't punish her from her preferred ranges, and it's hard to gauge gaps when you have to factor for distance/travel time and like 18~ frame stuff instead of just 5-12f up close, catching rebeats.

Reality is, depending on what slash she ends with, whether she whiff cancels, and if she exit with the +D version, there is like a 20-40f~ gap between when another slash can come out since enter stance moves are like 17f+. Her normals are faster of course, so there's a smaller but still punishable gap if you're within range, or at least take your turn.

Is there really a rainbow Gordeau that's even more broken than Ronald?

>unblockable, free burst
>full screen
>wins both rounds
youtube.com/watch?v=8MaJZlMdR6o

are combos generally light > medium > heavy?

>combos
If you mean buttons, yes.
But combos differ for each character, obviously. Reverse beat system lets you do shit like heavy light medium

oh shit, even after you typed out how it'd go i wasn't expecting that. Thanks, i needed that laugh.

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Not him but looking at his history, he seems to have done 1 last week so maybe it's an off and on thing.