The redditcore Smash mains

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>the Smash characters i lose to the most

this. git gud.

ok kuck rool fag

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>ur main reddit
>my main based & 4 chads only

who's the one with the cape?

Based

Sounds like somebody got farted on and had the laughing victory screen play.

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Pretty much every Smash thread decrying one or more characters

Nobody ever loses to ganon.

git gud

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Fpbp

ain't that, uh
crenando

Doriya

ike

>first post in charge of refuting OP's claim

Arena up.

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PW: 1877

we know it's you, nessnigger

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>The I-genuinely-enjoy-playing-this-character core smash mains

>Hi, you will never meet us online
>Have fun fighting another Ness, Cloud, or Wolf

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why do people play ken but not ryu?

same reason nobody picks simon, he's just cooler and better looking

Duck Hunt shows up from time to time, and it sucks cause I play samus and Duck Hunt just shits all over her. It’s a hard enough matchup with knowledge and practice, and I got none of that cause not enough people play em

Ken is more fun and nimble because his combo game is far superior. He's also better for rushdown, byt his projectiles suck ass and he has very poor range. Ryu is overall stronger.

true other than da cunt

but simon does look better than that fag richter

On the contrary, Yea Forums is the only place where people play these characters seriously whereas reddit never explores them and denounces them as unviable unless tier lists tell them otherwise.

People pick young Ike more too. Online has bad taste.

>Ness, Cloud, or Wolf
Lies.
There are at least six matches with Blue Marth, Red Marth, Girl Marth, or Not Marth between each of those.

Not gonna lie, Young Ike sounds dope as shit.

I barely fucking see any other FE characters these days, wtf are you on about?

Actually, Wario is actually considered high tier, just slept on for some reason. Like Greninja was.

Young Ike has better alts and a better VA.

Smash Ultimate.

>ganon
Literal big dick energy in smash form
Stay mad, chode

They used to think Wario was trash until he started getting results. They're all a bunch of tier whores.

I'm sure we can agree with this.
Should I add GameFAQs, Smashboards, and DeviantArt?

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OP BTFO

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It's the same fucking voice. And they're both terrible. Greg Chun was a fucking mistake.

>no more diddy kong
THANK FUCK

It's the same voice, but it sounds better on Young Ike.

That's because he didn't even try to sound older. It's like they only did voices for one set and just slapped different takes on the other one.

I play all of these characters and the responses that you're getting only prove your point, anyone who's proud of maining a heavy needs to commit suicide.

However you're missing the king of reddit characters.

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tfw all the smurfs in the beginner only arenas when i just want to learn how to play against other people

Fair.
Doesn't mean the voice doesn't sound less shit on young ike though

>anyone who's proud of maining a heavy needs to commit suicide
All 3 of my mains are heavy.
2 if you argue that Ridley doesn't count.

Plant may have been reddit in spirit, but what remains of the Plant mains is a fine bunch. All the reddit kids dropped the character unexpectedly.

Ridley is probably the most boring character to ever be in smash, they all do the same thing, spam side special, some times down special, always neutral special when their opponent is off stage.

Nothing wrong with PP, outside of the fact that it's neutral B can blue ball you during juggles.

Not really, there's nothing more cringe than doubling down on a shit pick by sakurai, Piranha Plant mains probably post smug plant pics and are "glad" your favorite character isn't in. Absolute cancer.

Wrong.
Ridley joined the Nair gang, along with Ike, Cloud, Palutena, and friends.
A Ridley that spams side B is a Ridley that is loosing.

T. projecting, seething waluigifag

These aren't plant mains, these are rosterfags & autists. They don't play the game or dropped the plant already

Move Peach to twitter
and yes

Factually impossible, as Ness manages to get by with exactly one move.
Two if you count Backthrow.

>Losing to Falcon

He's bottom 5

No not really, I don't like Waluigi because he's just a copy of Wario, which is a character I do like, but thanks for your predictable response that proves my point.

Bowser Jr definitely browses /pol/ but is too fearful to share his opinions in front of his father.

If you play a slow character, I can see how you end up losing to Falcon.

Replace DHD with Rosalina

I feel like falcon in ultimate examplifies everything I don't like about the gameplay.

BASED

>he's just a copy of Wario
Of course he isn't you retard.
He's a copy of Luigi.

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Why is Ivysaur reddit?

Pac belongs in both Yea Forums and Twitter tier.

>Yea Forums
>Dr. Mario

checks out with me

Truth be told, I do have some form of soft spot for him, mainly because I like Wario and my best friend loves Waluigi, we were those two for halloween last year.

Also the only way I'll truly ever like Waluigi is if my theory of him just being Jimmy T. faking being lame and evil is correct.

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>he has very poor range
>Ryu is overall stronger
The only attacks with better range on Ryu are heavy forward tilt, focus attack, and forward smash, and even those are only longer by about a fist. Ken's neutral air, AKA one of your most important tools has practically x4 the range and his shoryuken has a noticeable amount of forward movement that increases its effective range.
Losing shakunetsu sucks but in exchange for losing a projectile that becomes useless against any zoner/anti-zoner you get two stupidly good roundhouses, a tatsu that's good for extending combos, a DP that's actually usable as an anti-air due to the damage output never degrading and the lack of a sourspot, and aerial medium DP which is one of the best kill options in the entire game. That's not even mentioning the increased movespeed actually letting you reliably keep up with those squirrely little faggots who try to run away for entire matches.
Honestly, the biggest loss from Ryu to Ken is collarbone breaker, but it's negligible compared to the advantages.

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Captain Falcon players are too good for this world.

what if i lose to every character, and i just hate those 4 the most

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put Mii fighters and Villager in Reddit

Move Wario and Peach to twitter

Move haha and ROB to Yea Forums

Understandable, though unlikely, because there are definitely characters that feel worse to lose to.

Move Joker to 2ch / the Phantom Thief site

Real talk, how do you counter Warios bite attack? It grabs you out of literally anything

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Move plant to reddit

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tru
i more hate it because of the personality of the players
ganon and dedede mains are always assholes (and the one's that aren't are redditors) and thats why i dont want to interact with them

It's a command grab

>Losing to Falcon

He's literally the most nerfed character for no reason

How is wario reddit when they'd probably look at him like he's some sort of stereotype or some shit? Nah most redditors are disgusting swordfags

>most redditors are disgusting swordfags
All sword characters are Yea Forums because reddit never shuts up about how dumb sword characters are. Now go back.

>dedede mains are always assholes
I don't actually feel this.
They have the unique feature of being the only character on the roster with a true taunt online, and they flex with that. It's kind of like advancing with Bairs on Ryu or Ken. You just do it because you know they envy you.

I swear to god I'm fucking done fighting mentally retarded brain dead stupid fucking Ikes that fight me 200 games and lose every time and never stop rematching. Unless I'm playing bayonetta in which case they'll win every time even if they' have a single digit IQ.
The absolute definition of someone who does something forever without ever improving or learning.

>flexing a taunt
even if it was with kirby after getting a copy ability, i still consider it an asshole move

except Yea Forums never shuts up about the excess of fire emblem reps in ultimate so that aint true. Im sure redditors complain so hard about swordies but the moment they go online they're all lucinafags

>I swear to god I'm fucking done fighting mentally retarded brain dead stupid fucking Ikes that fight me 200 games and lose every time and never stop rematching. Unless I'm playing bayonetta in which case they'll win every time even if they' have a single digit IQ.
>The absolute definition of someone who does something forever without ever improving or learning.
There's a vague memory of the honest Ike main that many who main him try to attach to.
This memory is dumb, because Ike is no longer honest.

Do you not know what a command grab is?

I know what a command grab is, how do I work around it without getting fucked

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This board complains about every fucking character just shut up and get good and stop being a bitch

>WAHHHH HE MAINS FALCON
>WAHHH HE MAINS WOLF
>WAHHH HE MAINS MARIO

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Hmm lets see... ooh, defensive options might work. Oh yes, walking away, jumping away, dodging, quite technical but it'll do.

I don’t get why people are mad about this. Its just fact every reddit person plays a heavy online.

I feel bad for Pichu bros who been mainig him since Melee.
>considered one of the worst characters
>usually played by chill people who just wanted to have a good time
>announced he was coming back in Ultimate
>most of the people excited for him were the same chill people
>ends up being best character in the game
>all of those chilled guys end up being viewed as try hard tier whores because their main since Melee is now top tier

Am I not allowed to complain about certain match ups?

no because it personally annoys me and therefore you're not allowed to do it umu

I used to only be good with Dedede but I just got to elite with regular sized Link and I really like him. If it’s any consolation I don’t do the smug lounging taunt when I get a stock.

DUDE I KNOW ITS ANNOYING AS SHIT TO TO SEE PEOPLE JUST USE FLACON WOLF AND NESS AND TRY TO DO THE MUST JUST TO LOOK COOL BUT ITS GETTING OLD WE ALL JUST GOTTA GET GOOD

There are two basic types of command grabs, lunging and rooted.
Lunging command grabs tend to actually have kind of shit frames, any form of disjoint will beat it out. This includes the likes of Ganon, Rifley, and Incineroar.
Rooted command grabs, like Wario, Kirby, or Bowser tend to have much stronger frames, though are still beatable with good disjoints. However, their flaw is that they tend to have a lot of endlag. Just jump and attack them from above.

>an actual answer
thank you based user

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what shonen shit is this?

>Plant not reddit
>Cat not tumblr

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twitter and tumblr are pretty much used by the same type of people

Be glad you are fighting the underaged. Walls of pain and random up specials are when the real suffering begins.

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I felt this but with Sonic.

I don't give a shit and just dab on their corpses.

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Ganondorf, Wario and Falcon, I get why you see it. Ganondorf doesn't take much skill, Falcon has the meme punch, Wario has the meme fart. Dedede, though? Why? He actually takes skill to use. Those montages DDD's make where they do the same shield break combo isn't very creative/original, but it's a lot more technical than whatever the other 3 do.

>DDD takes skill
Nah, Gordo spam goes from "pretty good" to "excellent" online and all the DDDs I've played follow the flowchart of "throw gordo, hold B so even if you hit it back, it comes back again". DDD is also super heavy so he'll be living to 150% plus just spamming gordos and recovering with super armor and only needs to land one back air to kill you while you have to work really hard to kill him. He probably benefits the hardest off of wifi lag out of anyone except Ganon which is why he's common online but a ghost in actual tournies.

Kill yourself, Dedede fags are the absolute worst.

>tfw i've mained dedede since brawl because i like heavies and dedede in general
>tfw people regard him as a total meme pick for completely faggots for some reason
>also feel in love with mewtwo after smash 4
>he's regarded as a tierwhore character now
WHY IS IT THAT EVERY CHARACTER I PICK IS ALWAYS HATED
FUCK

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>Falcon
>Bottom 5
He's not where he used to be, but what the fuck do you mean bottom 5?

>complaining about gordos
Maybe you should try improving instead. It's not as useful as you think. It really only shines as a tool for ledge trapping, but I'm not sure if you know what that is. Dedede takes skill to use. Just because you don't know how to counter such a basic projectile doesn't mean he's skill-less. I paid my dues. Bottom 3 char in Smash 4. I deserve some 'bullshit.' I've earned the right to super armor, a buffed jet hammer and back air. I'll take that. All in all, mid tier at best. Complain about a Pichu or Palutena instead, you weak kike.

>he's regarded as a tierwhore character now
by who?

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>>tfw people regard him as a total meme pick for completely faggots for some reason
It's because Dedede players love LARPing as him for some reason, it's extremely obnoxious. Also Mewtwo was high tier in 4 but he's not nearly as good in Ultimate.

How do you people not look at lists like this and get embarrassed?

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>totally side stepping how much your character benefits from lag to keep claiming side B spam and being a fatass takes skill
Whatever.

Yeah? I looked at the numbers. They don't make any sense. They never found enough Dedede's in top placings at tournaments to fit the narrative. You don't like that he doesn't actually come close to even top 32? Well, why don't you quit? I get shit for stating Dedede's gordos aren't that strong and only received nothing but nerfs in all these updates? Why? Because you can't handle it? I'm the only one day in and day out that has the courage to talk about how Dedede still has bad MU's against the likes of Inkling, Pichu, Snake, Cloud, Palutena, etc. I even mention how he still gets bodied by Mega Man. No one even dared to discuss how Dedede still struggles against the most basic characters like Samus before I did, but you call him strong and I'm a reddit fag for using him? Fuck out of here. Just learn the game.

I have never heard anyone say Dedede is good in this game. I heard his mid tier at best.

People look down on Dedede because he was the most “lol I’m from reddit look at this disrespect clip I got I’m an internet funny guy haha character.” Now that Plant exists you don’t have that stereotype.

Gordos are the sort of thing where you check to see if the opponent is a retard, and if they are, you spam gordos because they are letting you get away with it.
Every Dedede is secretly hoping that the other person is not a retard, so they can actually work on improving with the character and getting more tricky with gordos, and dies a little inside when someone just lets themself get gordo'd to death, and that crouch is the only way we don't commit hero because of it.

lucina, bayonetta, joker, chrome, cloud and richter are reddit as fuck.
as much as i hate it incineroar fits better with the Yea Forums kiddos.
i'll say falco and lucario are better on twitter with all the furry shit.

>tumblr all the shotas and fujos
checks out.

I try my best to play as a honest Toon link Main (using sword more than proyectiles and doing combos) but when you reach 4 millon a lot of people play like fucking faggots that don't deserve respect like wolfags spaming the gun and run so i start spaming bombs

The only honest people i meet are felow toonfags and falconbros

the Yea Forums-core smash main

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play whoever the fuck you want.
>people used to call me a tier whore for liking kirby in 64 and falco in melee
>destroyed their anus and laughed at their faces
every time.

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>dedede in universe is a dick that no one likes
>attracts those very people
>sakurai literally larps as him
Every fighting game needs that one clown character.

Why is Young Link so good?

>>dedede in universe is a dick that no one likes
What? He's a jerk, but a Bowser-type gold-heart sort of character who people put up with because he's genuinely nice when it matters.

Bayonetta and Chrom are 100% tumblr. If you put any tumblrite on smash there's a 50% chance first thing they'll pick is Chrom. Bayonetta is the female equivalent to Captain Falcon.

fuck off furfag
if you're going to play a zoner go for a fun one like ROB or Duck Hunt

That mac is trash, the upswing at the end of his jab beats bowsers tough guy

The way he's portrayed, especially in the anime and even in smash, is as an obnoxious ass to everyone unless there's is a greater evil that threatens the livelihood of everyone.

>Not intentionally doing the wrong play for the sake of the moment.
It's likey you can't even into fun.

>fun
>Yea Forums

>especially in the anime
Even though it's entertaining, the Anime isn't relevant to anything in Kirby at all.

Based.

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>tfw half of the people who play Palutena in Ultimate probably never played Uprising
I don't why but this thought makes me kind of sad. Uprising was really cool and deserved more.

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It's still Sakurai media which is all that matters in his Smash portrayal. The only Sakurai game that even hints at his good nature is the end of Kirby's Adventure. In any other instance, he's being a bully to Kirby or terrorizing his subjects.

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>It's still Sakurai media which is all that matters in his Smash portrayal
And so, it all comes back to Sakurai being a biased fucking gook shit.

You missed
>any fire emblem character

Because far more anons are underage than you'd think, and thus lack a sense of self awareness that is garnered with age.

I wanted to pick up Uprising but heard that the controls are awkward and uncomfortable. Is it that true?

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Well, he did create Kirby's Dreamland when he was 19. His vision for these characters probably come before anyone else's.

Screeching about fire emblem is the epitome of newfaggotry.

Where is Incineroar, nobody but a faggot redditor could like that thing
>inb4 the heel RP fag calls me a grinchfag

This is the truth. One is literally the chad-est motherfucker and the other is an anime version of Todd Howard.

Sakurai is not solely responsible for Kirby, nor even close to the most involved with the series. Sakurai's bias is a problem.

all of them.

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Mostly.
I actually stopped my first playthrough because playing in the highest difficulty settings is awful with the control schemes of this game.
The second one was mostly done on medium difficulty and it was a blast. This game honestly deserves a remake. The multi was fun too.

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Found one.

A Smash thread died for this

if i recall, someone posted a screencap of a reddit poll for Ultimate's newcomers and Piranha Plant, Isabelle and Chrom were at the top and Ridley deadlast, fuck off

>le swordfag

Wario mains are absolutely rare and based
Dedede mains are based

Ganon is popular everywhere for his merits,

but i'll give you Falcon, nobody likes him aside from his quips

It's not like HAL really did anything noteworthy with the character besides Masked Dedede. Dedede has exhibited the most personality and flair when directed by Sakurai, so I don't see this as a problem at least in relation to the character's representation.

Switch Dedede and Plant, Plant is a normie fag shit and Dedede is for true patricians.

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ok dedede main

>Dedede has exhibited the most personality and flair when directed by Sakurai,
>DL3
>K64
>Literally any Kuzumaki game
Stop posting on Yea Forums, Sakurai.

this. fuck you op

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This complete lack of self awareness is why no one can stand Dededefags.

I agree with him and am a Ridley main.

>>K64
Really, this is kinda the only argument needed against Sakurai.

just because you agree with him doesnt make him right

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Finally stopped being a completely mongoloid and started learning simple bomb setups. I still can't time dairs that spike for the life of me though, and especially not Samus's

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I miss melee falcon. The changes to movement in later games really nerfed him hard.

>smash 4

Dr. Mario main actually

I just like the Kirby series and i encounter poor Dededes rarely, reddit seems to cater to the Zelda characters the most as much as i like that series as well.

Consider how often you see a shitty meme video pop up as well, who do you see more often? almost never Dedede.

To be fair, he did save Ness and Luigi in Subspace. It's not really easy to portray his kindness in the game itself.

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>enemy keeps running face-first into tilts

This is almost worth being totally unable to recover

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Just because you disagree with him doesn't make him wrong.

>implying the average smash shitter can do well with wario

Why do all you retards think this is about the gameplay? It's just that their mains are obnoxious, stupid people.

I see most of those characters online all the time but I never have issues with them. Unlike Yoshi

As a Rosa player can confirm

I honestly cant believe how often Up special gets me stocks

>tfw you download someone's flowchart combo and can Skewer them in the middle of it

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What's up PacBros. Stay as based as ever

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Don't forget that ken's got those nice block strings that can pop your shield

Then kys heavies are fun as fuck you impotent weasel

I don't know, Pacposters are getting pretty annoying focusing on how smug and based they are over how much of a great guy Pacman is.

Thoughts on pit?

I constantly see FE characters, wtf are you on about?

Spam arrows while wishing their neutral air was as good as Palu's and struggling to kill you without cheese like random side Bs

>Peach/Daisy
>Reddit/Tumblr
neither of these sites would be able to pull off the float game

I used to see them plenty at launch but now they are pretty rare, it's almost only zoners that I see now

>hold down
>jump
Wow what a feat of skill
>implying 99% of tourneyfag princess mains are redditors

>fight a peach/daisy
>they just float around trying ebin combos they saw online
>sometimes throw turnips and shit
>destroy them everytime
A good peach/daisy is so damn rare, it's like spotting sasquatch

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Pichu is honest

He's good and but dies early and is lacking tournament results because he's hard to play
>inb4 he has results
No he doesnt, not compared to other top tiers

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>pichu mains
I stomp you rats online with Ganon like im a New York pest control miracle worker.

Now let's see you actually do something good
Float game isn't just floating at them like a retard and then dying because you're trash

i want to FUCK pichu (male or female, doesnt matter to me)

STINKY DAY

>hold down
>jump
>bair
>repeat
This kills 80% of quickplay scrubs and most of Yea Forums

Do note the set of matchups is likely preset depending on who you play

I played Ganondorf a few times and found Jigglypuffs, whereas i never found any Jigglypuffs as K. Rool.

I also saw more FE as Ridley and Dedede, so it might depend on what kind of playstyle matchups you get.

All of my mains are Yea Forums.

Supposedly honest, yet attracts teabagging faggots like flies.

You people are all wrong, the top tier character to main is your favorite character

I would assume that GSP ranges and regional tastes are what causes the differences. Highly doubt the matchmaking looks at matchups

But the default GSP rises depending on how you do with other characters until you play them, My Ridley, Dedede, and Ganon are around the same due to me playing them frequently.


Also, i've never found a single Mewtwo oddly.

>ywn fill pichu with your spunk as it desperarely electrocutes your furious cumming cock
sad.

why must u remind me

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The coolest character is Little Mac. Prove me wrong.

hes the biggest underdog in this game and this makes me love him because its accurate to punch-out too

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Based