Should children be allowed to game? Or is it too dangerous for them?

I don't think gaming has anything to do with school shootings. I'm just worried about addiction

It doesn't matter if it's dangerous or not, parents will buy games for their kids to take them off their hands anyway. Nobody wants to deal with a child when both parents are working so they shovel the responsibility onto technology.

>tfw no underage roblox gf

I agree with one part of this but I won't tell you which

>modern parents
>parents (plural)
It's 2019 man, having two parents is heteronormative and not #Sobrave.

So you think that, in a more ideal world, kids shouldn't be allowed to game?

It better be "Yes, I support gamers' rights" you funposting leller-teller.

Yeah, as long as their parents are responsible and not expecting games to raise their kids for them.

Video games these days are FAR too stimulating for young kids' brains. And many of them are specifically designed to hijack their reward systems and get them hooked.

Addiction can be mitigated by forcing them to spend time doing other things as well as teaching responsible time management to them early on.

I'm addicted to games and I wouldn't let any of my children touch one let alone something like heroin either

>a bunch of autistic 12 year olds on Yea Forums think they should have the authority to police what kids should and shouldn't play
the ironing

Meh, I showed my 7-8 year old cousin RE2 recently, and he was having a lot of fun blasting the zombies with the infinite ammo guns.

To be fair, if you're playing a game that teaches you to stop making excuses, wipe away those salty tears and GIT GUD, then it's giving you a better mentality than your parents do.
Your parents probably tell you that you're beautiful just the way you are, and that's a toxic mentality that makes people think it's okay to play meme specs and suboptimal strats.

>frying their synapses
What the hell is that supposed to mean?

Addiction can definitely be mitigated, but it HAS to be mitigated. You could theoretically give your kid a few small doses of heroin here and there, without severely impacting their long-term health. I think letting kids game is playing with fire.

I'm 27. Modern games are way more insane than they were when I was a kid. Especially mobile games, which are a fucking cancer.

If you had asked me 10 years ago, i would have said chill out grandpa, but...shit man, has it nailed i think. The formula now for games isn't just to enjoy the moment, shits like a second job, and you're always chasing a high that comes from a progression system.

No, denying the kids games would simply make them want to play games more. Then they'll just find ways around the restriction. Just limit their hours until they're young adults so they've had time to go outside and build connections.

No, yes
youtube.com/watch?v=kW9pGZAUEAU

If for some reason someone claims to have a child of mine I'll be glad I was alive for this particular period in gaming so I can tell my bastard spawn not to play shit that has $50 season passes

Mobile games are a separate issue entirely because of the close relationship with gambling, but 3 hours of normal vidya every day would be acceptable.

Sorry, that's shorthand for like, messing up the pleasure centers of the brain. Someone who's become addicted to opium has had their "synapses fried," i.e. their brains no longer respond appropriately to normal sources of pleasure. Their receptors have been so hammered by pleasure-chemicals that they're worn out, and no longer feel real pleasure from the things they used to like.

reminds me of smashtards

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I've seen the damage first hand when tiny children (ages 2-3) of being handed tablets and smartphones by deadbeat parents because it's an easy pacifier.
These same kids, now ages 6-7, are so hyperautistic they cannot function properly at school.

Regular console and handheld games at earliest age 7 is fine as a hobby.

kids shouldn't even be allowed to breathe until age 12

I think kids should be allowed to game if they have a certain level of emotional maturity. If they can play Pokemon and they can understand the concept of the fact Pokemon arent real and its just a game not based in reality then its okay for them to play.

Children should be allowed to game but should be supervised in their early years until 16-years old. Parents should be supervising kids playing vidya, considering a lot of the games on the market are very mature. As well as the fact they can teach kids moderation to mitigate addiction and invest in other hobbies beyond indoor hobbies like fishing or soccer.

Seven or nine-year old children are still retards who will be hopelessly addicted to vidya or easily influenced by what they see.
Seriously, I was a dumbass who tried to replicate wrestling moves from WWF.
And parents should get involved with their kid's hobbies instead of showing disinterest or getting annoyed by what a kid likes.

I appreciate this. There are games out there that are more addicting than heroin, for some people. They're actually designed to target the weak points in our minds. Seasoned, self-aware gamers can immediately recognize this type of game and shut it down, but kids don't have this defense. They're so vulnerable to it. If you spend any time with kids, you can really get a sense of how fucked it is.

Video games have nowhere near the capability of hard drugs
You're weighing two completely different things

What if they start losing interest in all their other activities, wanting to spend more and more time gaming?

Enjoying the moment isn't good either. If you don't have to work for a reward, then you get used to being rewarded without work, and that'll hurt you if you try to port that mentality to meatspace.

Casually, yes. Online multiplayer, no. It's especially more acceptable if the parents get involved and play them. Parents don't have fun with their kids enough and it can be very isolating

They're not COMPLETELY different. And remember I'm not talking about ALL games, just some of them. There are plenty of people whose lives are derailed by gaming addictions.

Granted, a gaming addiction is usually cheaper than a drug addiction, and less medically devastating. But there are lots of people who no longer have an appropriate sense of reward for doing normal, healthy things. There are lots of people whose lives are in shambles, and they know their lives are in shambles, and they no longer really enjoy gaming, but they keep doing it.

Absolutely not. At this point, I'm not sure most adults should either. There are so many more rewarding ways to spend your time.

Don't be a conformist. The masses are retarded. Don't be a conformist. The masses are brainwashed. Don't be a conformist.

I'm not sure if regular gaming can be a hobby anymore. Modern games are going to be far more stimulating than every other aspect of their lives, and kids' brains crave stimulation.

And it's only going to get worse as tech improves.

Recommend me some more rewarding ways to spend my time that isn't just a form of exercise or another form of media. Not attacking you or anything either.

But I can't find anything that gives me a sense of adventure outside of media like books, vidya and television. I've tried.

Imagine when technology gets far enough where you can jack your brain into whatever game you want. It'll be like machine-induced lucid dreaming.
youtu.be/J0sQCGV_u-M?t=250

Just go outside, beyond the city borders. There's something really soothing and refreshing about just lying on a hill and basking in the sunlight. Or you could learn a hobby or lifeskill, like woodwork.

>vidyia is bad for kids because it prevents them from being good wageslaves
Good goyim

don't forget giving them "smart" phones before they're even able to walk

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Whirlygig Saw from Bloodborne.

I'll try that, thanks.

I mean, I already do that and im still a functional member of society. The idea that people who play only video games or hang out online having no social life or not living close to their friends makes them not functional is complete retard bullshit.

Why don't you go ahead and take a seat, user.

user children can't be sexy

None does that. Unless the person reports it to the authorities themselves.
Maybe china though

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>M'amore

>Should children be allowed to game?
Sure if it's a safe casual game they won't get mad at like maybe Rayman or something. But when they get older keep them away from trash like GoW and TLoU.

If they play in moderation I don't think it's a big deal.

We don't have access to many things that are more enjoyable than gaming in the moment. But there are a lot of things that, though they're not as amazing while they're happening, leave you with a sense of meaning and satisfaction, and these things can compile over time.

Most rewarding ways to spend time involve real connection with people you care about, and who care about you. This can actually happen in gaming, but it can happen anywhere. Developing relationships. Working on projects together.

Sense of adventure is harder. If you have the time and the money, you can still go on irl adventures. Even better if you have friends who also have the time and money. You can do some open-ended exploration. If you've never been in the middle of nowhere, or in the middle of a huge mountain range, or seen the night sky without light pollution, or seen a full solar eclipse, you should really try to, especially if you can bring some people you care about. And then when y'all get home and you're all burned out, THEN you can knock each other around in smash bros., and that'll be a great memory too.

Sorry for rambling, I'm at work. Add me on discord if you wanna talk more about it

What are you talking about, I played videogames as a kid, and I turned out just--
Oh.

You're a functional member of society. Are you satisfied with your life?

If you are, then you don't have a problem. But a lot of people are unhappy, unsatisfied, and yet they keep gaming, and can't get themselves to do anything to improve their lives.

Under 6 - No
6 Years - Allowed to play Nintendo handhelds
12 Years - Console gaming allowed, local multiplayer only, no online multiplayer
16 Years - PC gaming + online games allowed only if they get a job to pay for it

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They should, but under moderation. No online games though. Multiplayer should be strictly forbidden to anyone under the age of 18. Same goes for internet in general.

this actually seems like a pretty decent way to handle it. simple too. I'm actually going to save this as an example, thanks user!

Man if i ever have a kid he is going to spend all day on school, practice two sports, play the piano and the violin and learn another language and maybe if he is done with all the homework he can play tetris an hour a week
I know what games did to you guys

I'm going to push older games on my kids. Modern games, from like mid last gen and beyond I'm gonna have to screen to ensure it isn't gacha/timer based/microtransaction pushing nonsense.

I grew up playing video games, but I didn't grow up playing video games made by developers who had a team of psychologists working for them figuring out ever more devious ways to manipulate players.

Every child must play Sekiro.

Learn an instrument. I recently took guitar classes and now I'm having a lot of fun. Been working on Killing in the Name Of and I've been dicking around with some Sly Cooper songs just today. The Muggshot theme is fun as fuck to play.

I'm impressed with how reasonable Yea Forums's overall response to this thread has been. Hell yeah.

>underage minecraft pussy

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Well fucking put. I've talked to so many people who aren't willing to accept that point, this is a breath of fresh air.

For some reason I thought you were referring to pizza and I got really weirded out.

Or start climbing shit. I climbed my uni's chapel a few weeks ago and my old elementary school just this past week.

In my experience, the people who are okay with kids gaming are not gamers themselves. They're lazy parents who get defensive. Normie parents who don't have first-hand experience of how addicting games can be.