Aerith is just perfect!!!

The silent majority vs the loud and autstic minority

Aerith sounds like a mongoloid with a lisp trying to say Aeris. What the fuck is wrong with you people?

>teaser for a trailer coming at E3 with info
>SE releasing information about projections for the rest of the year and Q1 2020
>interviews actually talking about how they are going to approach release
>twitter account hard pushing the teaser every day

Part 1 is actually going to come out start of next year, this is amazing

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Who gives a fuck?

post lewds

Her name is Aerith retard

I don't play FF games but she is super cute

>AERISU

Ty for pic. Gonna jack off to it tonight

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She's missing something?
Hmm something long I think?

I can't believe you retards have been going on this long defending the bad translation of her name as canon for 20 fucking years

Its always been Aerith and was never supposed to be Aerith

do you guys think square will let me wear cloud dress during the whole game and will we have that ferris wheel date wih Barret?
I could care less for sephi sloppy seconds in your pic

There is no "th" sound in the Japanese language, which led the mistranslated "Aeris". That's why it's been corrected in Advent Children and Kingdom Hearts.

>It's always been Aerith and it was never supposed to be Aerith

Stop it, I'm already confused as it is.

Is that what he means?

*always been Aerith and was never supposed to be Aeries

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Both the Jap and English verison say it the same way. Good enough for me.

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Her nose is long. When you see people with giant noses all the time, you tend to just tune it out, but when you compare her nose to the rest of her face, you notice it. She also has fuckhuge ears.

Post yfw fags don’t realize that “aeris” is a bad translation and her name was always “aerith” from the start which is why they corrected it in later FF games/media

She already had 39 dicks inside of her6

Everyone knows now go have sex

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I don't CARE that it's a bad translation. Aerith just sounds stupid, so I don't want to say it.

Biggest surprise for me was how good she and Cloud looks
They really fixed Cloud up

I'm usually the most anti-waifutard out there but when that trailer played and she first appeared, I went "woah" in my mind.
First time a fictional character ever made me rewind a video just to look at how cute they were.

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>anti-waifutard
Who hurt you anyway?

>they corrected it
Too bad that doesn't count for shit because FF7 is the original.

The waifutards that keep derailing threads and posting porn for zero fucking reason. Literally have sex

I really don't see why people say she looks bad. I think it's a nice mix between realistic and anime. The FFVII remake so far has looked to do a great job at that in general.

i love the way aerith lookth in the new trailer
I hop they thow her more in the nextht trailer they thow at e3, the final fantathy theven remake lookth like it'th gonna be thuper good
anyone who doethn't think tho ith jutht a thimpleton

you have to admit that waifufags are shitting up this board a bit

Or literally deal with it. This is an imageboard. Get over yourself and admit you're insecure.
They can't derail shit is it's related to the thread

Literally how? At least they talk about videogame

It has to be Aerith because Aeris is a guys name, coming from the Greek God of War Aris

>just deal with it hurrr
>what you want to talk about vidya? Fucking faggot look at the same shitty lewd image that's been posted 700 times already
There's a fucking hentai board for a reason, retard.

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Ari = Aryan, but that's not the same as Aeri. E changes everything.

Oh come on, the Aerith v Tifa shit is fucking cancer that's been around for 20 years

Why did you have to post THIS picture to prove your point? Her chin is unusually pointy right here.

how is it a bad translation when it's Earisu in Japanese?
why would you translate エアリス to Aerith when Aeris makes more sense

My only complaints is that she's flat. She doesn't have to be Tifa of course but we already have Yuffie for the flat girl quota.

so, since it's just half waifu thread half thinly veiled aerith v aeris REEEE war thread, I might as well put this here

jessie = elena > yuffie >= tifa > scarlet > aeris

Its Aeris. And if you disagree you need to have sex.

>insecure.
How the fuck does this word even fit into the context of obnoxious waifu faggotry? You're just throwing out random buzzwords like a fucking idiot.

FF7 in Japanese is the original assface, and btw the pc version of FF7 corrected it
Cope

Hmm interesting ranking. Not bad but I would go like this
Tifa = Jessie > Elena > Yuffie > Scarlet = Aeris

Here is the definitive waifu rankings for ff7.

Marlene>Jesse>Cait Sith>Jenova>tifas tits>yuffie>cloud in a dress>AERIS

Same reason why Sephiroth is not "Sephiros"

>all this hate on Aeris
Jessie = Aeris > Yuffie >= Tifa

I don't remember the other two well enough.

I’ve had sex, recently, multiple times, in real life, with women, who I didn’t pay
And it’s still Aerith, and Aeris is still wrong
Cope

you can't count marlene or priscilla user that's cheating
I can respect that, user, tifa's a good choice

Because there is no “th” sound in Japanese, even with katakana

>btw the pc version of FF7 corrected it
No it didn't you idiot, because back then they saw nothing wrong with it.

C&B
B&R

Didn't she have a sharp chin anyway?

It's painfully obvious all the Aerithfags are children while Aerisfags played the original when it mattered.

Over the years they've even corrupted the Wiki pages.

was never a big aeris guy
sure, she looked cute, but so did yuffie, elena, and jessie

Yeah, good point. They COULD have made Aeris Aerith back then, but didn't. Sephiroth and Aeris are written as intended.

Aeris is a hips girl.

Creepy bug eyes
Long face
Sharp chin

She still cute tho

It's going to coincide with FF7's original release date: January 31

The world's oldest waifu war will be restarted in earnest.

Yeah but she was also made of roblox back then.

>Steam version
Rofl, I played it on a Pentium 2 266MHz originally, then replayed it on a Pentium 4, it always said Aeris.
>Steam version
Never mind... child.

>was never a big aeris guy
Yeah, her character design was nice looking but she felt really fucking pushy and annoying with her advances. It was like she was practically throwing herself at my character and it got irritating.

It’s painfully obvious that aerisfags are afraid of change and new things and have nostalgia for “da good old days”

>my character
He has a name.
You don't self insert as Cloud, do you user? That's kind of weird.

I self insert as Vincent because Cloud is kind of a wuss.

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I played the original and always knew her as Aeris. Years later Advent Children was released and it never mentioned her by name, presumably because of the conflict with no confirmations. Later still Square Enix themselves decided that it wasn't worth it trying to go out of their way to not choose either way and settled with Aerith. I accept that decision just like I have to accept the shit that AC pulled with everything.

>You don't self insert as Cloud, do you user?
What's wrong with naming him something else once in a while? I've kept him as "Cloud" for years already.

The remake is going to be worse than the orignial, so you will never have the upper hand on this. Kek.

>Sephiroth and Aeris are written as intended.
...By the localization team. In actuality, even the Japs spelled it in english as "Aerith" in promotional materials in magazines before the game even released.

For the record, I also think Aerith sounds weird, but that is actually the correct spelling and pronunciation.

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If anything I think part of what carries her is her personality. I find her being somewhat assertive to be refreshing compared to the typical blushing shy girl. Otherwise I find her a nice medium between Tifa and Yuffie; not as bland as Tifa but not as annoying as Yuffie.

Even if you can name him, he isn't a self insert. It's like Tidus or Robin and Corrin from Fire Emblem, for example.

I unironically hope she is flat as a pancake so that half of this board will cry itself to suicide.

Because people will complain about anything

I’m gonna screencap this and edit it into a picture where I show the remake’s inevitable higher score along with messages from other angry faggots saying it’s gonna be shit

based and tranny pilled

I hope not, just to see twitter have another panic attack

Someone is gonna come in and say earisu is an S sound so that means Aeris but miss the entire point of the hiragana anyways so it doesn't matter.

cope

A flat Tifa means they deleted Yuffie.

I hope she's still big but slightly smaller than Lulu or whoever the other biggest breasted girl is.

Strange how that localization team redid it for Tactics then. Maybe it just made sense to have same sounding names instead go back to early design plans.

>he isn't a self insert
Who said he was? Why are you so obsessed that someone called him "their" character just because of a name change?

They designed Cloud in a way you don't really know what he is. Easy to self-insert.

Either way will be delicious tears, but I get more enjoyment out of sexually frustrated tears.

>half the plot is dedicated to Cloud realizing his own personality and remembering who he is
Okay

But Aerith is flat and Yuffie is presumably still there. Having three flat girls would be a bit much though, so I'm guessing Yuffie and Aerith are both flat so Tifa can compensate by being massive.

the problem is the second we get a close up, we can spot the tranny

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She looks just like a chick I hooked up with out of boredom back in college, just with shitty hair. She had the most asymmetrical labia I've ever seen on a girl, even including online pics and porn. She was also somewhat neurotic.

Fucking flat Aerithers. She's round faggot.

top kek

You have to admit that settling with Aerith was a stupid decision, since the distinction between -th and -s was already made in the original with SephiroTH and AeriS. Pronounciation arguments don't work.

I hope they give Tifa a butterface but with huge titties. I feel like this is the result that would cause the most board controversy so this is what I'm rooting for

Not in the remake(bizarro) universe

now this is shitposting

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first clever thing I've seen on Yea Forums in months

FFXV will always be more beautiful than that thing you call a woman

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Soon

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They won't since Tifa is supposed to be the hot one, compared to the cute Yuffie and the plain Aeris.

I have some questions about Aerith/Aeris

1. What was her goal in going to the Ancient Capital of the Ancients?
2. Why did she need to go alone?
3. Did she know that she was going to die soon?
4. Why was Jenovaroth there?

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That distinction only exists outside of Japan though. The original hiragana uses the same characters Japan uses for the English TH in both names. Otherwise we'd have to change Sephiroth to Sefiros.

Cope with what?
Aerith is the canon correct translation
If anything you need to cope with change fag

Well, XV really had the perfect mix between anime and realism design wise. Too bad the game was shit tho

this post implies that you think it's a conscious decision on their part

user I'm willing to bet that throughout their entire history Square never designed a female protagonist character that was supposed to be anything but drop dead gorgeous

I think after Cloud beat her up, she thought it would be the best to keep her distance

Her eyes are a bit too far apart

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So, the Japanese say Sephoroth as Sepirosu?

have sex

See

How would you Aerithfags cope with it if you had to speak to the Japanese about this and every time they open their mouth, out comes Earisu?

>What was her goal in going to the Ancient Capital of the Ancients?
Aerith made a lot of questionable decisions about literally everything. Like why she chose to follow Cloud in the first place when her mom didn't want her too and Cloud keep telling her to go home.

If you transliterated how they pronounce it then, yeah, it would be Sefiros and all audio would sound like seh fee rossu.

Well for one I can speak nip. Also Earisu is the correct Japanese pronunciation, so there’s nothing wrong with it, Aerith is the correct ENGLISH pronunciation. We’re talking about the correct English version fag, not the Japanese version

>1. What was her goal in going to the Ancient Capital of the Ancients?
To stop Sephiroth. She was convinced it was her duty after talking to Bugehagen at Cosmo Canyon.
>2. Why did she need to go alone?
She can't rely on Cloud, because Sephiroth can control him.
>3. Did she know that she was going to die soon?
Yes
>4. Why was Jenovaroth there?
At the Ancient Capital: to get the black materia
At the temple: to stop Aeris from summoning Holy

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she would've been an actual retarded person to stick around in Midgar. Did you forget the part when Shinra kidnapped her?

>Aerith just sounds stupid,
You sound stupid.

>correct Japanese pronunciation
Correct pronounciation period. If you somebody handed you a script of Ancient Mayan and told you to define how the words are said, you really wouldn't be able to get it right unless you heard someone say it. Vocals matter more than an artificial script trying to record it.

Again, Aeris is fairly plain and Yuffie is just kinda average cute. Tifa was the only one in the game who could be considered "drop dead gorgeous."

inb4 remake calls her "Aerith" even though literally the whole world is screaming that "Aeris" looks and sounds better

Well Lionheart and Lockheart was changed later to Lionhart and Lockhart, even though the meaning was obviously "heart". Same thing with "Aeris/Aerith". People have to look at the context. Aerith sounds like a lisp so Aeris makes much more sense, also it sounds a lot closer to the Japanese pronunciation

But Shinra kidnapped her anyway, and Cloud was right there.

see

Source?

>To stop Sephiroth.
How was she going to stop Sephiroth, again? I know it had something to do with the White Materia, but why did she have to be in that exact location? Also what was up with all those weird hallucinations of Aerith that Cloud had right before she died?
>She can't rely on Cloud, because Sephiroth can control him.
Okay but what about the others? Also... the whole scene where she just sits there and trusts him as he has to struggle not to strike her down would imply that this isn't the real reason, right?

If they nerf tifa's antifas, i wont buy it

Square designed all three to be drop dead gorgeous, your subjective opinion doesn't factor into it.

What's her name

Tsing comes in a helicopter and nabs her right in front of Cloud and the gang.

I'm just going to repeat my same point because what you said doesn't refute it: if she stuck around in Midgar she would've never been safe from Shinra because they knew her exact location.

both are sexually frustrated

. Did she know that she was going to die soon?
>Yes
This is a tumblr-tier fan theory right up there with Jenova controlling Sephiroth. Aeris was okay with her death, but she was never actually aware of her incoming demise up until then, and nothing in the game implies that she knew what was coming. In fact, the circumstances of her presence in the City of the Ancients and the people that have seen her on her way there seems to paint her departure as some sort of semi-trancelike awareness of a given path communicated to her by the planet that she followed without question, but at no point was she aware of Sephiroth's presence or intent. In fact, Cloud seemed more aware of Sephiroth's intentions to intercept her, hence his hesitant agreement to go after her in spite of him hurting her before.

>How was she going to stop Sephiroth, again?
By summoning Holy
>why did she have to be in that exact location?
It's the only place a Cetra can summon Holy
>Also what was up with all those weird hallucinations of Aerith that Cloud had right before she died?
Cloud has hallucinations all the time.
>Okay but what about the others?
No idea about this one.
>she just sits there
I'm guessing she had to, because that scene was in the middle of her summoning Holy (Sephiroth showing up was an attempt to stop her).

Right but the problem is that “earisu” doesn’t sound like aeris or Aerith, actually in Japanese even with katakana there is no “th” sound but if you say エアリス or “earisu” in the correct way it sounds more like “aerithu” so both “aeris” and “Aerith” are attempts at making an easy to say and decent sounding English translation, but sometime after the English VII release somebody decided that “Aerith” is a better and more appropriate translation and therefore her new name was born

Then why didn't they kidnap her before? It seems like they only started wanting to get her once she started hanging around Cloud and Avalanche. They knew where she was and kept tabs on her for years.

Then why did she even trust Cloud? He was wearing a SOLDER uniform and they work for Shinra. This is the kind of questionable shit im talking about. I hope SE fixes this.

because Hojo kidnapped Red XIII and figured it'd be radical to make him fuck the last living Cetra

They literally aren't though, which is why Tifa is by far the most desirable of them. Sorry Aerisfag but your waifu will be forgotten the moment Tifa is shown and makes her look like a goblina.

Aerith sounds like a lisp, Aeris on the other hand sounds much more rounded and full. Aerithlets are subhuman who need to be put down

I'm more upset they shrunk her already small chest

All three have their charms user, you attempt at trolling is dutiful noted tho

Great argument, you clearly know a great deal about the Japanese language and you are a very well educated individual

Too bad the remake voice acting will butcher it.

why wouldn't she? Cloud gave her no reason to ever betray her trust and risked life and limb to save her.

Plus the moment she first meets him he's running out of an exploding reactor. I'm pretty sure she's smart enough to connect the dots of "Cloud = Anti-Shinra"

Try learning all of Japan's written languages and tell me THEY understand language.

Tifa charms
>tits
>midriff
>legs
>face
>hair
>caring motherly personality

Yuffie charms
>midriff
>'cute' look
>bubbly personality

Aeris charms
>she dies

based and 1488 pilled

Out of all the shit re-designs of major franchises lately, as well as how Square have presented the cast shittily in other games, Aeris' design for the remake makes me hopeful that they'll do Tifa and Yuffie justice.

Are you trying to bait me into naming Aeris charms to you?

Hold off on that judgement until they either put in 'Sexually confident sassy housewife' Aeris and not 'I'm SO pure and peaceful and love purity sue' Aerith

Lmfao fuck this girl when Lightning exist. Id smell her ass if i was a dog lmao.

>we will get more bogdanov look alike
pls no

Aeris sounds prettier so I say it too

To be fair she has nothing to be sexually confident about with those B-cups

fucking russians get off the internet, stop influencing our elections

A flower?

She had an ass.

To be fair one of their alphabets is chinese, the other is for pronouncing English, but that doesn’t change the way the original name is said, I also think the romanji spelling of “earisu” is confusing a lot of people likeWho don’t realize the very subtle “tsu” sound in the romanji which leads them to think that the Japanese pronounce it like “aeris-su” instead of more like “Aeritsu” But with a very very subtle “t” sound, it’s hard to type out the correct pronunciation with English characters desu

Better than what we have now honestly.

>It's been a while...CLOUD

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squeaky wheel gets the oil

Presumably since you can never really get a good look in that huge dress.

Do you pronounce Sephiroth with a "th"? Cuz both characters end with "s" pronounciation

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>The world's oldest waifu war will be restarted in earnest.

I'm sorry, but Neon Genesis Evangelion was released in 1995 and FFVII was just released in 1997.

Asuka vs Rei predates Tifa vs Aerith.

Tifa struggling against a relatively flat chested girl will always be amusing.

2/3 of those girls are also much more athletic than the 3rd

It showed through the dress so you just know she’s mother material

>Presumably
I mean, what other explanation is there

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Was it ever really a war? Because I'm pretty sure Tifa was FAR more popular with waifufags. Like it wasn't even close. Aerith is more popular with girls.

Sure, why not?

I’m definitely team Aeris but the fight always struck me as foolish since people get so invested in it they can no longer enjoy big chunks of the game and story.

Aeris arguably a bigger hero than Cloud and she was “the one” before tragedy struck.

Tifa helps Cloud pick up the pieces and part of his arc is learning to move on from aeis after avenging her lost smile.

So if you’re hardcore Team Aeris you can’t be happy Cloud moves on. And if you’re hardcore Team Tifa you resent being his “silver medal” when neither consideration should matter.

I want to see aeris dominate tifa
not because I like aeris more but because that'd be hot

From a purely aesthetic perspective though Aeris and Sephiroth are the best. Sepfiros starts and ends with an s so it gives it some variation.

I only get annoyed when Tifafags pretend her rack is a total null factor. Don’t lie to me!!!!!

The only thing "full" about Aeris is her womb after she's bred by Red XIII

Pal PS1 was Aerith, before both the official declaration and the later games.

It only sounds like a lisp because you grew up with the wrong name, if you grew up with the months in a year being called ''muns'' instead of ''month'', you'd still be autistically complaining that ''month'' sounds like a retarded lisp too. Aerith sounds fine to me, shit, even better, the s is sharp and jarring, th is calmer and smooth, fits Aerith better, and at least makes the acronym ''I Earth''.

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Aeris is fiestier personality-wise so yea definitely.

They were initially siblings in early drafts so it makes sense

This sort of reductionist thinking actually works against the other girls because when AeriTH dies she was immortalized in the minds, if not hearts, of every player.

Meanwhile Tifa and Yuffie might only come to mind to most if they're thinking of jacking off. Their names, histories, actual character and not just personality "flavor" and so on aren't put to memory.
Shit you could swap Yuffie's name for Riku or Vanille and your description would still work, that's how little staying power she has.

I'd bet you there are probably some who have jacked off to Yuffie who had no idea she was from VII let alone FF.

This isn't the case for Aerith, if you have any familiarity with her you are or become familiar with her relevance shortly. People who have never played or heard of FFVII until the remake news have probably already gotten a distilled idea of her significance.

She is exempt of being reduced to pure libido memory, meaning her character concept actually accomplished its purpose compared to many other female characters in FF or games.

>And if you’re hardcore Team Tifa you resent being his “silver medal” when neither consideration should matter.
Tifa was always the gold medal though. Even if Aerith didn't die, Tifa would have won.

personally, I'm more of a yuffie x tifa guy but aeris x tifa is also good, as long as tifa is the sub

>Tifa helps Cloud pick up the pieces and part of his arc is learning to move on from aeis after avenging her lost smile
I swear to god, non of you faggots ever played the original game.

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Look how thicc her ass is in combat and the world 3D model.

youtube.com/watch?v=5ZP0uby7lUM

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>Even if Aerith didn't die, Tifa would have won.
LOL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also Aeris had a pretty well defined and interesting precocious personality. He’s just wrong.

Honestly what I’d forgotten is how selfish and poorly developed Yuffie is, being optional I guess does that

How can aeriTH even compete?

>look at me mom I'm starting a waifu war! I'm like a puppet master >:)
kys

She has the same style as the guy that kills her

In Tifa’s date with Cloud she expressed insecurity toward how effortless Aeris makes the love triangle look. We’d never know but the intent communicated is clearly to put Cloud and Aeris together and then pull the rug out from both of them

Also you’re proving my point about the waifu war, you have to fuck up the narrative to win the feud.

Wise man

>Tifa helps Cloud pick up the pieces
Which Aeris started.

Pal ps1 was the same retard

Why is she wearing a nightgown?

I am literally drawing upon lines Cloud says at the end of disc 2

They were initially going to be siblings is why

Started? What do you mean? Are you blaming Aeris for Seph sodomizing Cloud’s mind?

Nani? Y-you say you want to give me materia if i do t-that?

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Ah yes, FFVII with my authentic kawaii desu JP names
>Kuraudo
>Burret
>Reddo XIII
>Yufi
>Shido

Let's be real; Tifa is the more demure, nice childhood friend. And unless the other girl is a tsundere, that pretty much guarantees her the victory when it comes to video game romances.

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>if you grew up with the months in a year being called ''muns'' instead of ''month'', you'd still be autistically complaining
Protip: a written standardized language isn't real language, i.e. rikssvenska and the equivalent in other languages. In reality the acents and dialects are the real organic languages.

In some languages you sound like a dork for speaking the textbook version rather than a more spoken variant.

Aeris was the one who started piecing Cloud's fractured psyche together, Tifa only finished it.
If anything Tifa before Aeris' death kept it from being properly fixed because of her fear of telling Cloud the contradictions in his flashback

aeris vs aerith is bait, stop falling for it, either is fine

yuffie vs aeris/th vs tifa is bait, stop falling for it, theyre all hot, and it all comes down to personal taste

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where does she hide the materia?

And in this case it was accomplished by Aeris dying.

Oh I see. I recall Aeris saying she thinks there’s “another Cloud” she’d like to know. I’ll take it.

Well, Tifa is a more insecure girl so it makes sense that she is comparing herself to her rival. Also, after Tifas date Cloud asks her what she was about to say, where she pussies out and says it's nothing. While after Aeris date it's her who asks you if you like being around her which you can either answer with: that's not it and something else, either answers sounded pretty lukewarm tho

/thread

I really don't see how this CGI had any impact on anyone:

youtube.com/watch?v=Wx3duFYCcho

It looks like shit!

Meanwhile FF8 was fucking gorgeus:
youtube.com/watch?v=OlfH3r780So

This is bait, seeing as both of those have objectively correct answers.

>Aeris was the one who started piecing Cloud's fractured psyche together
No she didn't, Tifa was the only one able to do that since she was the only one who actually knew the real Cloud

it was an impact in that you either used her in combat and now lost a party member or not so bad because you never used her except for a struggle with that goddamn wall

Retards on this board calling Aerith a tranny is fucking stupid. no way ANY tranny has looked this good, and no, fuck off with your faggy balley and that youtuber

That's only the case if you're a Aerisfag

Cloud is pretty lukewarm generally. But it's well communicated Aeris was his girl and it’s reflected in how the game prioritizes her in the dating game to begin with.

And while I do not applaud the execution, getting over her was the arc for Advent Children because killing Seph did not solve Cloud’s issues.

Aeris' death cutscene was awesome back then, and it's intensified by the dialogue and interactions between Sephiroth and Cloud that immediately follows it.

>Meanwhile FF8 was fucking gorgeus:
Too bad it's shit and the most interesting thing about its shitty characters is a dumb fan theory where everybody is dead.

Your whole claim is literally a hypothetical you can never prove. When the game’s script and design support the idea that Seph inherited his dad’s cockblocking genes

>All these "Aeris" posters
Fat faggot jew niggers dying of denial.

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in her butt
don't let it multiply though

Yea the formula just did not work for 8. I’d be interested in playing it again to figure out why but 9 is... taking it’s time

>shitty characters

That's exactly why it sucked. There wasn't a single likeable character in that whole game.

It’s easier to type, idc which is used.

waifu wars are boring. I don't give a fuck about your dumb opinion on romance shit in the game, the creators literally put in a gameplay feature where Cloud has a date with one of them based on how you treat them.

What will you do when the remake's default name is "Aeris"?

Nothing, because it won't be. The preview videos have already shown this.

There is a narrative dimension to it all but as I’ve said a few times the “waifu war” only encourages people to obscure certain aspects of it while exaggerating others based on what benefits their girl.

Sephiroth could be voiced by Christian Bale. He sounds so much like fantasy Patrick Bateman in that scene.

exactly, it colors peoples' perspective to fit their narrative. You're literally cutting off portions of the game to yourself if you're a waifufag. And that's not even to go into how I don't understand how you can enjoy the game proper with a waifufag mentality in the first place

>But it's well communicated Aeris was his girl and it’s reflected in how the game prioritizes her in the dating game to begin with
I don't think so, the reason for her getting a bigger role in disc one was due to the fact to make her death as impact full as possible, but the actual twist comes later when the player finds out that it was Cloud who was actually in love with Tifa back in Niebelheim, and that he did the things he did to make her notice him.

Why did she tear the skin off her thumb

>I'm right your wrong
You're a nigger

Dude it was obvious Cloud liked Tifa in the Well flashback.
It's just Aeris wasn't Tifa who was completely unsure of herself and made better advances.

Not at all, since Tifa is the one who asks Cloud for the promise it seems like she was the one who wanted his attention even though it's the other way around

iirc Cloud was the one who asked her to meet him in the first place.

Yea Cloud had a childhood crush on Tifa, and things changed. The whole point of the Shinra building raid is Barret and Tifa smirking at how invested Cloud is in “this girl.”

There’s his reaction to her death which is clearly more than just “she’s my friend.”

There’s Sith’s fortune. Both of them. The one about losing the most precious thing and how Cloud and Aeris are perfect for eachother (complete with romantic music).

The inclusion of these things show where his feelings were beginning to lie.

And this is not even getting into the admittedly crappy expanded universe stuff from Nomura which further drills this in.

Niggers make claims they can’t back up actually. You describe yourself far better.

>people always ignore the Zack part
It's amazing.

When

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Apparently that scene was expanded to be something all the boys did with Tifa when they left.

What made Cloud special was joining SOLDIER.

This actually makes sense because one of the reveals when piecing his memory back together was that Tifa and Cloud were not bery close as kids. He admired her from a distance. So it makes sense she’d initially come along like with the rest of the boys only to have her interest piqued by him going for SOLDIER (she says she read the newspaper a lot hoping to see Cloud’s name; that’s still legit)

What part of the Zack part?

Pretty much everything to be honest.

I wish I could ignore Crisis Core, specifically the ending

You can, just like Square does. CC doesn't exist anymore because of legal issues.

So what? A lot of women date only one type of men, it doesn't mean only the first one matters.

Thank god

>Yea Cloud had a childhood crush on Tifa, and things changed

>Cloud was still in love with Tifa when he came back to Niebeheim
>Sephiroth goes beserk
>Cloud turns into a potato and stays for some years in a tank
>Runs off with Zack, still potato mode
>Meets Tifa in Midgar where his mind completely melts
>in the Lifestream he discovers his true self, hence he remembers his feelings for Tifa
when exactly would he have gotten over her?

There are seriously numerous things you could mean though.

>continue to ignore the impact Zack makes on the story and the reason Aerith and Tifa even react to Cloud the way they do
Zack is the fatal flaw in every single argument shippers make.

if anything I think Zack is probably overrated in shipper discussions

Aeris and Zack weren't that long with each other.

>expanded
Not canon.

>Apparently that scene was expanded to be something all the boys did with Tifa when they left
That's not true tho, it was one of the earlier concepts like Sephiroth and Aerith being siblings. But I guess the devs cut it out so the promise scene would have a bigger impact

I dunno, meeting a girl who was more openly into him? There’s simply a preponderance of evidence he was more into Aeris when she was alive from where I sit.

Also remember Tifa was being secretly wary/worried toward Cloud so maybe he thought she was being distant and didn’t know why.

What a terrible time to be a phone posting faggot, I wanna put Ross's face on Sephiroth's body now.

Aerithfags downplay him and Tifafags don't factor him in enough.

Hojo’d

Worth noting Cloud was acting like how he saw Zack and probably how he wanted to be himself: a cool badass.

Zack being more carefree in reality was a decent idea from CC. But botched execution wise.

CC botched a lot of things and it's good that there are so many legal issues attached to ownership and likenesses. They can still carry over the easygoing but determined personality now without any of the Tabata-isms and weird ass subplots.

You are constantly projecting CC ideas here. I'm coming from a purely vanilla experience here.

Aerithfags downplay him and Tifafags overplay him, and I think the Aerithfags are mostly correct on that end.

I remember faggots used to say "She's Aerith in Kingdom Hearts but Aeris in FF!"

The point is, he wasn't fully himself when all the love triangle stuff happened. But after the lifestream sequence he becomes his true self again, while also remembering his feelings he held for Tifa

i always thought her name was aerith
but i played ff7 likes 15 years ago
which is right?

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This kills the waifufags

>th

Weird considering I never played it and I think this is my first time bringing it up. But if you want vanilla justification... Aeris says Zack was “a real ladies man” and I would not call Disc 1 Cloud a “real ladies man” desu

Now you're getting into a cyclical problem where you're favoring one shipper over the other which ultimately ignores the entirety of the flashback sequence and how much the context of disc one changes once Cloud puts things back together.

>still arguing over the love triangle shit when Cloud says he could only atone for his sins if he starts anew and thinks everything will be alright because he has tifa this time

Back then the wikis still defaulted to Aeris without any revisions.

That’s a fair argument however Aeris expressed an interest in “meeting the real Cloud” (or something to that effect) so she saw the facade and could have won anyway.

At the end Cloud is still stuck on her in some capacity.

Keep in mind I think moving on to be with Tifa is correct for him, but the writers clearly want something bittersweet to go along with it as a denouement.

I don’t think I am being unfair to tifa

This was pretty much definitive proof that Tifa was always the love of his life, every since he was a child. Aerith was never, ever gonna win. Even if she survived he'd have ended up with Cloud while she would have died alone. If anything Sephiroth gave her a mercy kill.

That’s also not as simple as that would suggest. Which is why I think the idea of Cloud not getting what he wanted most but probably something that complements him better is a totally fair way to read the triangle’s outcome

It’s not definitive proof because she’s the only one with him at this point, so of course he’d say that to keep their morale up.

You guys igbore a lot more in pursuit of something that can’t be definitively determined. When your girl does win anyway.

people like to argue, nigga

Ignore I mean. Point is you guys are proving my point about the waifu war. That it’s ultimately a disservice to the actual narrative the writers chose. The one where your girl wins anyway.

And Aerithfags an only function by pretending she was his true love and that they were only separated by death. Face it, she was never going to win regardless.

>The whole point of the Shinra building raid is Barret and Tifa smirking at how invested Cloud is in “this girl.”

Uh no. Aeris was part of the group at that point. She's helped "rescue" Tifa and helped relocate Marlene before the plate fell on Sector 7. Those 3 were going to save her together, because she was their friend.

Mad as fuck tifafag detected. Tifafags always have to devalue Aeris, because they know she’s more important than Tits McGee.

I am pointing out the dialogue Barrett and Tifa have with Cloud, they know he’s unusually invested.

At times like this I am glad Nomura made it extra explicit Cloud never got over Aeris. He’s an obvious storyteller but clearly it’s necessary.

You are going to have to reanalyze everything about the love triangle when the remake introduces facial animations and possibly new lines.

>As Tifa looked away from the sky towards the ground, she was fearful of the future. However, Cloud beside her chose to smile gently. It was a smile that she hadn’t seen before during their journey. Cloud noticed her gaze and asked, “What’s wrong?”
>“Cloud, you’re smiling.”
>“I am?”
>“Yeah.”
>“It all starts now. A new…”
>Cloud looked for the right words.
>“A new life.”
>“I’m going to live. I think that’s the only way I can be forgiven. All sorts of things… happened.”
>“That’s right…”
>“But when I think about how many times I’ve thought about how I was going to start a new life, it’s funny.”
>“Why?”
>“Because I’ve always failed everything.”
>“That’s not funny.”
>“After this … I think I’ll be okay.”
>Cloud was silent for a long time before he spoke again.
>“Because I have you this time.”
>“You’ve always had me.”
>“What I mean is kind of different,” Cloud answered with another smile
Literally what more "definitive proof" do you want? Cloud decides to move on from his past and he knows that there are people he actually values who would be guiding him along the way. Do you want him to keep on being the miserable fag who still suffers from guilt that he is in AC?

lol

>clearly it’s necessary
Well, looking at this thread he's right. It wasn't enough for a dramatic death to happen apparently.

It’s funny. After Cloud gets his memories fixed one of the first things he does once he gets all the huge materia is talk about how he’s been thinking a lot about Aeris.

His childhood crush on Tifa was also something he shared because Tifa suggested he share a memory she’s never talked about before. Because Sephiroth said Cloud was just repeating her own memories back to her, so she wanted him to think of something she could remember when reminded.

Cloud still had feelings for Tifa but his childhood crush served a strictly plot purpose in that moment.

>Aeris expressed an interest in “meeting the real Cloud” (or something to that effect) so she saw the facade and could have won anyway
Yeah, but Cloud wasn't fully himself. Also Aerith saying she wants to meet the real him also implies, that she never met the real cloud.
> Keep in mind I think moving on to be with Tifa is correct for him
Cloud had feelings for both girls, so he isn't really moving from Aeris to Tifa.
> but the writers clearly want something bittersweet to go along with it as a denouement
I think your kinda interpreting your own bias into the Cloud/Aeris/Tifa thing. FFVII is pretty cut and dry about life and love. You get some and you lose some, life goes on. There was no grand love story like in the later games. It's much more like ffVI in that regard

I'm sorry, buddy. But even your Nomura thinks it's going to be Tifa just like Nojima saying he's certain they would be together.

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How the tifafag bargaining comes in. I have said it was good he moved on with Tifa several times. Nothing I have said requires his connection to Tifa to be a sham. You’re projecting.

pls god no

The argument revolvings around trying to convince people of a hypothetical there is no proof for. Your response is clearly unaware that fact. I merely have to point out their theory rests on presuppositions which are nowhere near as simple as they implied.

>I am pointing out the dialogue Barrett and Tifa have with Cloud, they know he’s unusually invested.
When does this happen? When Cloud decides to rescue Aeris from Shinra HQ, both Tifa and Barret insist on coming with him despite Clou'd warning.

this is the first thread I've ever seen where the Aerisfags are winning the argument

Yep, waifuwar threads for years to come.

They are gonna make it more definitively Tifa, not just because it was always meant to be but also because they know that she's far and away more popular.

What argument?

Dude he literally wrote the story to remove one of the girls so of course the other wins. The story was constructed around achieving that goal and the way he did was to literally remove the competition.

The question is about whether the characters written would have ended up the same way if she did not die. Not so clear based in what else Nomura has written

>cloud loves both girls as confirmed by the devs
>one is dead
>one is life
>cloud l-loves my waifu more!! reeeee
This is pathetic

On the stairs or elevator, they giggle over how concerned Cloud is. Barret even says “looks like you found somethin’ to care about.”

It’s not hard, they’ve taken an extreme stance that they can’t prove or justify. While I am saying Cloud liked Aeris, but Aeris is gone and he still has genuine feelings for Tifa.

Not even saying Aeris would definitely have won if she lived, just that it’s cavalier to say Tifa would have definitely won

Strange for the most "popular" girl to not be involved in the most famous scene in the game.

Reminder, the argument is about a hypothetical scenario where one of those characters did not die (when their entire relationship is built up to end in that death).

>The argument revolvings around trying to convince people of a hypothetical there is no proof for
But you do the same thing, nigga. What we know is he had feelings for both girls which one of them was the "one" is up in the air

Popular and iconic are not always synonyms

After the lifestream it's Tifa hands down. No idea if she would have one if Cloud never discovered his past tho

you want a long face?

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BURN IT WITH FIRE

No one would have cared if it was Red XIII or Cait Sith, or even Yuffie.

It was Aeris in disc 1. This is not a controversial statement. But it does not change that she was always going to die and Tifa would therefore win.

I’ve made it clear I support Cloud moving on with Tifa.

Let me phrase it this way: if Aeris was NOT going to die she would have not have been built up as “the one” either because that was done to tragedy-max.

That clarify?

I hope the remake will have several endings.

The bad ending: Cloud dies.
The default ending: Cloud stays with Tifa.
The perfect ending: Cloud stays with Aerith.

That's what the fans want. They all ship Cloud and Aerith.

that new style is fucking awful, she was so cute before ;_;

>On the stairs or elevator, they giggle over how concerned Cloud is. Barret even says “looks like you found somethin’ to care about.”
That happens on the stairs. Barret laughs and Cloud tells him to stop because it's creepy, then Barret responds: "So even you will fight for someone else. I had you figured wrong I guess." Tifa laughs after that.

There's nothing about that hinting that Cloud was giving special attention to Aeris. Tifa and Barret are just laughing because his cool-guy act was falling apart.

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I would fuck that until an AVALANCHE of cum covers her metal-covered titties.

Yes but I think I see it somewhat differenly:

After the lifestream Cloud says he’s been thinking about Aeris a lot, after Seph dies he says he thinks he knows a way to meet her, etc etc

He’s still stuck on her somewhat but Tifa is the one he has feelings for who is alive.

Because after the lifestream is also after Aeris dies. It exists to give Tifa and Cloud development in the wake of Aeris being extinguished. And it succeeds.

No i dont, fuck used goods

Literal Kardashian

I miss old Jessie.

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Right, they built up Cloud and Aeris to be perfect BECAUSE she was planned for death.

That’s why i see speculating she “would have lost even if she lived” to be dumb because there would not have been that build up if she was not going to die.

I’d agree but the game makes it clear people do not get exactly what they want (aeris) and maturity is about learning to love what you have (tifa)

>it was Aeris in disc 1
He was wavering between the girls, user
>I’ve made it clear I support Cloud moving on with Tifa
Moving on from what? You say this over and over again. Aeris awasn't Clouds fiancee or something. When was this "moving on moment"?
> if Aeris was NOT going to die she would have not have been built up as “the one” either because that was done to tragedy-max
That's your interpretation of the Cloud/Tifa/Aeris thing.

Elevator is a bit different. But you do not get it, Cloud did not lose his cool as badly going after Tifa in Corneo’s.

nice aeris pic, user

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>After the lifestream Cloud says he’s been thinking about Aeris a lot
In that scene he is talking about how she is stuck and can't get back to the lifestream tho

>The question is about whether the characters written would have ended up the same way if she did not die. Not so clear based in what else Nomura has written
If Nomura and Nojima says they believe that Cloud and Tifa would be together then that was the creators' answer. You're just making a hypothesis at this point because you're clinging to a hope that Aeris might have a chance has she lived, which isn't going to happen because the canon did the other way around because the writers themselves wanted him with Tifa, unless they completely retcon the story. And Aeris didn't die just so Tifa could be with Cloud. Nomura said her death was already planned since the beginning when Cloud, Barret and Aeris are still the characters they had planned.

Tifa is both the most popular and iconic girl though. Aerith is only remembered for dying. Tifa is remembered for being one of the most famously beautiful girls in video game history.

She dies

If Cloud hadn't literal alien autism Aerith would have never cared and neither would he. Aerith was the catalyst to expose him as a fraud, even her death is immediately followed by "lol u gonna cry? Why, you're a puppet" almost as if it's a dark comedy
The point about Aerith goes well beyond "wanna fugg girls xD", it's that his asshurt about him wanting to fugg girls eventually turned him into a puppet that got an innocent girl killed.
As soon as he goes to Midgar and half-joins Avalanche you don't see one hint of intimacy between him and Tifa, almost as if he's another person and he didn't do what he did to hit on Tifa.
Basically, he's re-enacting what happened between Aerith and Zack.
She looks like an NPC from FFXIII.

He was not or was wavering more on one side. I’ve given specific instances where he is more concerned for Aeris.

And it’s not my interpretation to say they build up the Aeris and Cloud relationship to make it sting more when she dies. That’s obvious. This is getting laughable.

I don't have any issue with alternative endings, provided there's that one everyone knows is canon.

But they already had in mind that Tifa was actually the girl Cloud was lusting for as a shota giving it maximum impact after we see him getting closer to other bitches

You’re tedious. They deliberately built up his relationship with aeris and later made sure to make him miss her after the adventure to ehance the tragedy.

You guys act like they did not intend for Aeris to be dead as part of how Tifa wins.

By the way, what was that cut content from FF7 where you can still meet Aeris in the church?

HE BOMBED?

>Cloud did not lose his cool as badly going after Tifa in Corneo’s

Bullshit. He literally crossdressed for her and the parts of that costume included squatting against gay bodybuilders for a wig, entering a bathroom covered in diarrhea, getting gang-raped by gays, and wearing a hooker's makeup. You're a delusional faggot.

Incould as easily reduce Tifa to her boobs, and you kind of did. The irony js I think I care more about Tifa’s personality than the Tifafags

Yea, if the story was completely different it would be completely different.

But people forget the idea of him being SOLDIER piqued Tifa’s interest too.

>they actually introduce a way to save Aerith that results in major differences
>but Cloud still ends up with Tifa
Post yfw

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one grotesquely large boob with a giant puffy erect nipple and the other boob flat enough to see her ribcage

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>I’ve given specific instances where he is more concerned for Aeris
pretty sure you didn't
>And it’s not my interpretation to say they build up the Aeris and Cloud relationship
What I'm saying is that you're interpreting Aeris and Clouds interaction as some epic love story, which it isn't. He had feelings for her, but he also had feelings for Tifa. Later in the game he tries to make it up for letting her die

I’ve acknowledged that. I will explain this one more time.

They wanted Tifa to be with Cloud as a reault, and they wantes Cloud to have a doomed thing for the Flower Girl. Both goals are accomplished by killing her off.

If there was an ff7 where Aeris did not die I bet that ff7 would not have built up their relationship as much. But based on how they did in disc 1 I do not think it is reasonable to assume Tifa would have won anyway if everything was the same up until the point where Aeris dies.

Because let’s face it, if Aeris lived and had the same development with Cloud in disc 1... why would the ANCIENT not be the one helping him in the lifestream? Maybe with Tifa, maybe not. The way the narrative played out from her death was influenced by her absence. So arguing about how it would not have changed if she lived seems silly to me.

She was always going to die and Tifa was always going to win. That was the roadmap decided.

you know what I never quite understood about Aeris

she doesn't really even seem to care all that much about how she's the last of her race. You'd think she'd be enraged and in despair and a mixture of other emotions but it's almost as if it's the least important think to her

Then I would rather have Aeris dead and pretend otherwise. Anyway I think it defeats the whole purpose of an alternative ending.

>mfw they reveal Marlene instead of Tifa at E3

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I did. I think you’re new here.

They forecast, prior to her death, that they w

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Continued... if I remember correct there were some files in the PC version of a dialogue happening.

Now why would they have conceptualized that if CloudxAeris ends in disc 1?

even joking, I can't believe you guys seem halfway serious about the prospect of Aeris surviving. Her death is the most iconic moment in video games, it's way more important than some shipping bullshit. If they gave the player an option to save her Nomura would be the ultimate hack

Annoying, they forecast that they were perfect for each other, complete with cheesy music, right before she runs off to die.

They obviously build her up as “the one” to make it tragic when she is killed off.

The fact she dies is why they did all that.

The most stills I see of him the less Black he looks.

From the characters' perspective it doesn't matter. It's not like they break the fourth wall.

That's a good thing.

>she doesn't end up dying in the scene shes supposed to die in and has tons of scenes making her fans love her even more
>ends up dying later anyway in a more horrific and sad way

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She can talk with them so it is less bad. She does get ennui at cosmo canyon I think, and has religious-esque episodes at the temple.

I think the idea is that she was cheery despite having a shitty life, she spent a lot of her early years in Shinra custody based on the videos in the snow village

I'm just following what the creators said. They stated that Aeris was planned to die even though the planned characters are what I stated a while ago. You're the one who can't get over that fact because you kept pushing that Aerith died so Tifa could win.

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From the character’s perspective, Cloud had strong feelings for Aeris and was en route to ending up with her as per disc 1.

But from the writer perspective that was never going to happen and only allowed to get as far as it did to make it more tragic when she dies

That’s what I have been saying. You helped me out.

>talks about writers intent
>thinks the other girl dying has nothing to do with how they fulfilled that intent

I legitimately do not know how this simple concept evades you

That's actually quite red-pilled writing if you look at modern white countries today, or like the Native Americans when they got colonized.

>That's what the fans want. They all want Cloud and Aerith.
Maybe some minor vocal Aerithfags do
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>she dies as an old spinnster after both having Zack leave her and having Cloud ditch her for Tifa

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>"Why did you cum?"

What did she mean by this?

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>nd they wantes Cloud to have a doomed thing for the Flower Girl
Cloud isn't moping after Aeris in FF7 tho
>Because let’s face it, if Aeris lived and had the same development with Cloud in disc 1... why would the ANCIENT not be the one helping him in the lifestream?
because she doesn't know the real Cloud, doofus. The point of the Lifestream scene was that Tifa was the only one who Cloud confirm that Cloud was actually the same Cloud she grew up with.

holy fuck that's just cruel

>The point of the Lifestream scene was that Tifa was the only one who Cloud confirm that Cloud was actually the same Cloud she grew up with.
I played FF7 like 10 years ago but this doesn't sound right to me. IIRC Cloud was like a beta orbiter to Tifa in their childhood and they didn't really hang out except for that one scene where Cloud says he's going to SOLDIER

>Annoying, they forecast that they were perfect for each other, complete with cheesy music, right before she runs off to die
Cloud doesn't even react to that

>dies by getting knotted by Nanaki

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>The area left to the church with a save point has dialogue assigned to a non-player character who is never actually seen there, although his dialogue can still be viewed in the game's script files. Among the lines this scrapped NPC says is the following line:
>"I saw her! I really did!"
>"This woman just disappeared! Right there around the old church."
>"I waited around a long time, but she never came out again!"
>"I tell you, it's one of them ...haunted churches!
>Ohhh... shiver... shake..."
Tifafags BTFO.

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Yea he is, more than he mopes for the other losses he’s seen anyway.

>doesn’t know the real cloud
She knows there is a real cloud that Cloud’s hiding, no reason to think she’d not have liked him.

Remember, Tifa was not close with Cloud as kids and also liked his persona as a badass soldier. Did not stop her.

Besides, Cloud regaining his memories is there as a way out of the fact Sephiroth can control his mind... which was the reason Aeris went off and died.

These storytelling decisions are all woven together but this weird idea that you guys have where changing a critical one would not require altering the story substantially is just silly.

>Cloud had strong feelings for Aeris and was en route to ending up with her as per disc 1
I disagree, since Cloud wasn't himself at this point. He was still a mix between Zack, Jenova, Tifas memory's

She's a qt.
I think that Aerith and Tifa represent two exact opposite ends of attraction. Aerith is peak cute, while Tifa is peak sexy.

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Correct, see here. The issue we keep running into in this conversation is that they think storytelling decisions don’t affect one another. I say they do and changing one requires changing the story’s outcome (ie who cloud gets with) or the build up (ie making CloudxAeris less prominent in disc 1)

He barely reacts to anything. He also doesn’t react to Tifa clearly trying to open her heart to him

You are trying to reinstate a thing I already rebutted. When determining emotions at a particular moment the writer intention later is not relevant.

>have never liked Aerith
>see this

I like Aerith.

>Yea he is
When does he mope?
>She knows there is a real cloud that Cloud’s hiding
She literally says she wants to meet him, which implies she still hasn't, user

Actually it’s more accurate to say he was wearing a delusional mask. He was not parroting Zack’s personality. And the “tifa’s memory” thing seems to just a lie from seph

It’s silly to think nothing he did or said in disc 1 is authentic, since it still all motivates him in 2&3

The only thing cloud had from zack was is manerisms and skills because of his memories of him, his petsonality, and this is from SE, is a mix of his real personality, his ideal SOLDIER self, and tifas expectations of him, cobled together by jenova fuckery, he still had his own personality there

No you didn’t. This is pointless

Because the girl needed some damn happiness in her fucked up life

Aerith is happy Cloud and Tifa are raising children together.
The LTD is so stupid.

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After he gets his memories back he has mournful recollections and such, at the end of disc 2, the confrontation with seph, etc.

Mope is not the right word but he clearly did not just forget she died or not care. I think you chose mope though

>He also doesn’t react to Tifa clearly trying to open her heart to him
He asks her what she wanted to say tho, showing interest at least which is more than the others got. Also the things he says in the lifestream/highwind are the strongest romantic emotion he shows through the entire game.

I agree. I have said several times it’s good Cloud and Tifa are together.

It’s also funny that tifafags dislike Aeris so much when tifa was one of her closest friends

By your logic we should watch all movies backward, because the writers intended for some things to be revealed later. And if characters thought or felt something in the beginning then we can ignore those.

I consider Tifa peak cute and sexy

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Aerith is just a character

she is a very successful character insofar as you care enough about her to literally want the writers to resurrect her... but that would be hackneyed. Aerith needs to stay dead and I say this as someone that also really likes her.

When he gets his mind fixed and stops hiding behind a lie he is generally more open

If the Aeris from disc 1 were not dead he’d be more open with her too

Delete this. Aerith is literally crying herself to death, or well not death but you know, in the lifestream, being forced into an existence of misery and loneliness.

She's the one who taught me you can love fictional characters. She means the world to me.

Nope. Not even close to what I think.

Why do you keep posting this crap???

Tifa AC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What you posted.

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Same. Maybe a bonus dungeon where she can temporarily join you, that would be fun but no more

>asian
>shirt too long
>skirt too long
>no dolphin tail
YIKES

go play Danganronpa so you can get used to characters you love dying

at the same time?

>Two 6/10s
>peak anything

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Never played final fantasy but I just want to let you guys know Aeris sounds better.

Add back the content of Aeris's Ghost and let Cloud talk to her a bit. It's not even a revision since they were 99% there.

You have no idea what I am arguing. This is why I am becoming flippant toward you guys.

I wrote this

I liked her more since 1997. Never even knew there were so many tifafags.

:3

>Mope is not the right word but he clearly did not just forget she died or not care
Nobody said that. The thing is that Cloud gets more upbeat and happy the more the game keeps going. He isn't pinning after Aeris. Like I said before he had for both girls feelings, the love triangle happened in a time where he wasn't really fully himself. So it's kinda silly to say which girl would have won

He said Aerith and Tifa, not Aerith and Yuffie. Tifa is the pinnacle of video game females.

Hahah. They are going to make her Asian as fuck in the remake and kill your attraction to her, Tifafags.

At least Aeris is confirmed to be pretty.

:3

I think that’s what he means at the end about “seeing her again.”

I assumed it was a pyreflie type thing

/thread

You did. This is just getting silly. It’s almost like you’re arguing Cloud does not care she died which is like the fifth time a tifafan has chosen to fulfill my warning aboit waifu wars today

He is literally still stuck on Aeris to some extent and says he has to get over her memory (after avenging her).

It is right for him to move on with tifa, idk why you can’t accept he still had to make an effort though

She's grinning because she knows she won the Cloudbowl when that flower bitch bit the dust, and now she's the sole owner and proprietor of Cloud's buster sword

Nigga, you keep harping about Aeris being the "one". What I'm trying to say is that you can't really tell which girl would have won the d, since Cloud was a nut case in disc one and only after the lifstream sequence he is fully himself again which also means he rediscovered his feelings for Tifa

(And that's a good thing)

It's good for her womb that's for sure. Tifa's womb is yelling at her to get filled with his semen and carry his child

>shaved
There's a reason you find Yuffie in the forest

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>that flower bitch
How do people forget she also weeped over Aerith's corpse?
They must have bonded a lot. I bet they were planning a threesome before Aerith died.

We all know that's how the love triangle really would have ended if all 3 had made it

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It's just women doing what women do best: acting. She didn't want to lose to that bitch post-mortem, so she played along and pretended to be sad so Cloud could see how much of a "great and sweet girl" she is. I bet if you took a look into her thoughts at that moment, she was ecstatic. She has him all to herself. I mean, you remember that fortune telling thing before the demon wall boss, right? C'mon, it was plain as day.

NIgga my argument has eluded you up until now and I’ve been talking to like four of you guys.

All I have ever said is that if Aeris were to live the story would have to be changed because drastically because it would be weird for their relationship to be built up in disc 1 and then turn on a dime in disc 2 toward tifa.

Think about it:

1. If aeris was not going to die but Nomura still wanted Tifa to win he probably would have dialed back the Aeris moments in disc 1 since there’d be no pressing need for them in the story.

And without these... people probably would not feel as strongly ahout Aeris and Cloud anyway. I wouldn’t.

2. If Aeris lived and Cloud still got sick and sucked into the lifestream it would be weird for the ANCIENT wih HEALING magic to not help him

3. The whole point if his memories being fucked up was to give Sephiroth an in to mess with his mind, which is how Seph gets the black materia to begin with which is the very thing that makes Aeris go off alone. So that would likely be changed entirely if she lives otherwise there is no need for the set up

It’s just so ridiculous all the changes they’d have to make to keep Aeris alive that waifu war speculation about it is an absurd exercise.

Because tifafags only like the game for their waifu’s tits?

>making tifa a sociopath to own the aerisfags

They are friendly consistently but whatever. She and Cloud both bring up Aeris when the fight with Sephiroth begins even

>Speculation: the post.
this shit is gay

>asian
she looks asian in literally every official 3D version of her ever made, not just in AC.

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Yep, a beta girl's dream come true. They all wished Stacy would go away so they can get Chad.

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Tifa is boring as shit, as a character and as a design. Top-heavy skanks are a fucking dime a dozen in games.

Again, Tifa is pulling the good girl card. Bet she doesn't even bring her up after that.

holy shit, user. seek help.

That post wasn't painting her as a sociopath, he was painting her as a realistic woman.

>tfw part one won't have best girl

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EurasianTiger used to say that Asian women hate white women because they take white men away from them. Makes perfect sense why Tifa acted the way she did.

The argument was tifafags speculating the game would be exactly tbe same if Aeris lived. You know that right?

I am arguing against dumbass speculation by showing how that speculation thinks the game would not have to change to accomodate their hypothetical.

You guys have been incredinly dumb. Aeris dies and still ends up the most important character to the story’s resolution. But you guys seem to think if she lived disc 2 would play out exactly the same despite her involvement driving a lot of the plot points in disc 1

>2. If Aeris lived and Cloud still got sick and sucked into the lifestream it would be weird for the ANCIENT wih HEALING magic to not help him
Aerith couldn't help Cloud, only Tifa could. The way she pieces his mind together is by going through memories they both held from their childhood. And the one thing that proves to Cloud he is really the same Cloud Tifa knew from their childhood was by telling a memory he had of her she doesn't know of.

>discover the secret to female manipulation
>seething thot tells me to get help

They all look like chinks tho

What am embarassing time to make typos. Oh well. I think the argument is done now. Some new tifabro joined in an argument he didnt understand I am fairly sure.

It’s still to speculate how the game would play out if Aeris lived because either disc 2 would be totally different or disc 1 would be, making it a different game entirely.

That’s all.

>my speculation is better than yours
the fuck is wrong with you fags?

dunno who that is, but Asian women seem to never hate on white women in my experience. On the contrary, I see white women hate on Asian women all the time.

I meant in the dingt hospital specifically, helping his mako poison before Weapon attacks.

But actually Aeris could help them both. Tifa would probanly have to fix his mind, Aeris would probably use ancient magic to get inside or whatever. Currently it just sort of... happens.

And my third point was suggesting the memory subplot would likely be different if Aeris is going to live anyway since it was a way out of the fact Seph could control Cloud’s mind, a consequence of which is Aeris going off to die

She's a 9/10 woman. She literally got pounded the moment she stepped into the Honey Bee inn.

>462081404
Not wanting a cute nip waifu
gaaaaay

This guy gets it. Tifa was just nice enough to play along. Now Cloud is her's. ALL HER'S. She's manipulated him into taking the lead and sweeping her up, and that flower bitch won't get in the way!

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>those long-ass necks

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Stop baiting retards

I want a dog ;_;

That's what not-fat people necks look like.

I've seen it both ways, but it's rare on either side in my experience. That said, just about every single sheboon and she-beaner I've come across constantly whine incessantly about white AND asian girls for obvious reasons.

I thought it didn't look normal.

t. American.

It's not bait, it's reality! Now that the flower bitch is out of the way, Cloud is officially property of Tifa! Exclusive access to his dick!

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she's throwing spells

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Imagine being so butthurt by a fictional character's qualities that you shitpost and reply yourself to trick other people into responding to you

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Stay mad Aeris fag.

spoiler!!! she DIES!!!!!!

I'll say I do like her new design. Tifa is pretty good looking too, but I prefer a more modest look.

Imagine being so butthurt that you call out legit posts criticizing your favorite character as samefag baiting

which posts are those

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Yeah its a bit more Disney-ish or Dissidia-ish but she's looking good.

>Aerisfags are so desperate they start to falseflag as Tifafags
b-based and SHEETHINGpilled

I'm the guy he replied to and I completely agree with him. Tifa's a snake and it's easier for me to live with it that way.

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You tell me, buck-o

go to bed lobsterman

based and incelpillede

Unironically have sex

cope

>Tifa's a snake
People interpret so many emotion into these characters, it's a really strange thing to see

She's no stranger to manipulating men. Just look at Johnny, completely has him at her beck and call but cucks him with Cloud. It's not a stretch to think that she was overjoyed when the competition for Cloud's semen was reduced to nothing

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I asked first. Good job showing how pussy you are though :^)

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>nothing
Uh did you forget about someone?

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Will we get a glimpse of this game at all or do we get cucked?

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*her

Nope, Yuffie can only masturbate from the other side of the door as Cloud pumps Tifa full of papa paste.

She is never going to be a romantic interest due to her age, even though 16 is legal in most places.

>you can't date Yuffie anymore since the dating minigame gets cut out
nuke everything

Isn’t her name supposed to be an Anagram of “Earth” or a Japanese person pronouncing it. Like Aerth?

sauce

Honestly a fantastic premise for a doujin. One or the other would have been fine but making it both really shows a master at work.
Poke around any doujin site, it isn't like there's much for Yuffie.

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Give me your best Aeris doujins.

FF7 waifu wars are so intense because the game gives you two love interests and invites you to pick the one you ike. You project your sexual wish fufillment onto Cloud so when someone or something challenges that experience it feels like a negation of your imaginary sexual identity and that hurts I suppose

>Fake Cloud: has a fake resume and remembers one event differently

>Real Cloud: remembers one event correctly, no longer has a fake resume

Yeah, two completely different people