Persona 5 BTFO

I still have this game in my shelf and haven't played it yet.

12 units or 120k? I refuse to believe Nier 1 sold 12 units.

sarcasm m8

Amazing , look at what one good ass can do . Then we have ppl in the west saying shit like "sex sells is a meme" or respect wemen ( because admiring beauty is disrespectful for some fucking reason )

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It's hyperbolic for comedic effect. The original was very niche but still had a decent cult following.

>considering the original Nier sold something like 12 units

what an embarassing fucking hack.

ITT: seething PC and xbone fags

Alright carry on, I thought it was worded poorly but it might be me who misinterpreted.

>"sex sells is a meme"
It is though, nier just had good meme bait, lots of sex games sell like shit

i'm still surprised it sold over 1mil
i'm still surprised the game was made at all

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Sorry to butt in like that, but I'd like to crack the mystery of this game's widespread appeal. The gameplay looks ass, which bummed me out from playing it. Can anyone fill the holes for me?

>Persona 5 BTFO
>Multiplatform game sells more than exclusive niche game.
No shit?

If the next game doesn't feature a thick booty girl, Im not buying

This is hardly worthy of praise. You can have sexualized designs without turning your characters into heavy-handed vehicles for fan service. The fact that Yoko Taro couldn't; even manage something as basic as that speaks volumes about his incompetence as a writer.

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>PC port is STILL shit

>Multiplatform game sells more than exclusive niche game.
>No shit?
Hos is this an argument? Nobody is forcing Atlus to remain wedded to the Playstation.

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And turn based fags wonder why SE jumped ship to ARPG combat from now on.

>;

Really enjoyed both desu

Persona 5 is garbage and anyone that says otherwise is a zoomer piece of shit.

"all clothing in videogames needs a PRACTICAL reason to be the way its designed We cant just have designs be the way they are for purely stylistic choices!"

Here's a (you) for actually being autistic enough to compile and post these over and over again

Are there really people who enjoyed P5 more? I liked both but N:A was definitely better.

Yakuza 0 was better than both though.

why do you go out of your way to try make Kaine look sane?

Annah isn't poor though, she's a ward of Pharod, who's stupid rich.

Style is a buzzword, I need my fantasy to be realistic

Too bad Square Enix us too dumb to do anything about it

>realistic fantasy

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pity reply for fat virginal 28 year olds

So is this the shipments + sales combined meme or are these actual units sold to customers?

>wow no way a SE game outsold an atlus game

And good writing.

>"all clothing in videogames needs a PRACTICAL reason to be the way its designed We cant just have designs be the way they are for purely stylistic choices!"
What are you arguing against? The design on the left is more fantastical than Kaine's.

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>All that work for shitty hacking minigames
I mean, you've played a hundred hours of "find the enemy weakness and spam all out" minigame so why are you complaining?

No it hasn't.

LOL NieR automata is better than every single WRPG ever made cope harder.

Automata is multiplat though.

Nobody forces Atlus to remain on one platform

>12 units.
This has to be an hyperbole.

Kaine dresses like that because she's a hermaphrodite that wants to be treated and be looked at like a woman and is taking it to very extreme extents because she was bullied as a child and was called a monster.
Taro wrote a better lgbt character than the west ever did.

Of course.

What is the madman currently working on?

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Well Nier A isn't an RPG, so they aren't very comparable.

The bulk of its units were still sold on PS4, probably more than the 2.4 million total sales of P5 across PS3 and PS4.

a phone game

At E3 it will become mutliplat

Final Fantasy 16

both are not on the shitch

An Automata themed FFXIV raid.

LMAO . why is the west so obsessed with m-uh realism is a video game they can do whatever they want without any logical reason

You are going to provide the source to back up that claim, right?

fuck casuals
the original nier was clearly better than shitmata

westacucks should only play their aaa sjw games and give attention to stupid amerimutt identity politics

japanese games shouldnt go mainstream.

This game is ass

>fuck casuals
>the original nier was clearly better than shitmata
>westacucks should only play their aaa sjw games and give attention to stupid amerimutt identity politics
>japanese games shouldnt go mainstream.

The first Nier already desperately tried to go mainstream. They even dumbed down the western version to appeal to a dudebro audience:

siliconera.com/2010/05/20/barbarian-nier-was-born-in-los-angeles/

>Originally, the young Nier was the only main character. “I made the youthful version (the protagonist of Nier Replicant) first, during development Saito-san (producer) talked about considering overseas markets,” Taro Yokoo, Director at Cavia, explained in an interview with Inside Games. “At Square Enix’s Los Angeles studio we had a discussion, it was said having a fragile young character was not possible. So, I started preparing a macho protagonist for North America.”

>European and American staff were brought in for a heated debate. The point in question was whether a delicate looking character can wield a giant sword without looking ridiculous. Because Nier is a new intellectual property and they wanted it to sell, Cavia and Square Enix moved forward with two versions.

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Who gives a fuck?
Nier on Xbox One BC fucking WHEN??

But one is clearly on Xbox, and spoilers: it's the one that sold better.

Both Persona 5 and Nier: Automata are some of the greatest games ever created, togethet with Zelda: BotW.

2017 was a surprisingly good year for the triple-A industry, after over a decade of trash.

It only sold two million more thanks to being multiplat whereas P5 was exclusive and sold 2 million and Atlus got to keep more of the profits due to only being on one platform. The fact that see things fags even had to bring up P5 means they're living in their head rent free

It's already on Xbox One.

Persona 5 fuckin blows bro, its obnoxiously condescending and glacially paced. Any time you're in danger of having fun you're suddenly locked in for hours of cutscenes.

It sold well because twitter meme faggots made a ton of cringy "2BUTT XD" jokes and some cosplay thots put on a blindfold and wig to farm beta bucks. In nearly every way that matters, the first Nier is superior.

It had already sold over 3 million units before it even came to Xbox.

And P5 is on PS3 too, and released a year earlier in Japan.

>You can have sexualized designs without turning your characters into heavy-handed vehicles for fan service.
But there is nothing wrong with "heavy-handed vehicles for fan service" unless you're a religious puritan or a hambeast/hambeast orbiter.

As I'm sure you know they haven't broken the sales down by system, but unless you're a slobbering retard you must also realise that most of the sales are on PS4.

Over 500,000 sales in Japan very early on in its lifetime which would've been almost entirely on PS4 (most of these sales pre-dated the delayed Steam release and japs can't into PC anyway),

The majority of of the western sales would also have been PS4 owed both to the delayed release of the PC version and the bad PC port resulting in early mixed reviews on Steam (still unpatched to this day).

The game crossed the 3 million threshold before the Xbone version even released, that version is probably ~500k of the total sales considering the game of the YoRHa edition has also released since then on PS4 and PC.

Even if the PC version accounts for more than 600k of the sales which happened before the 3 mil milestone (and I think it does) it's plain as day that if the game was exclusive to PS4 many of the people who got it on PC would have gotten it on PS4 if it was only available option.

If it didn't already sell over 2.4 million copies on PS4 then it pretty obviously would have as an exclusive.

>Nier 1 became a huge cult gem has nothing to do with Automata success, nor SE actually putting a good marketing behind it, Platinum making a more polished product and/ or being multiplatform.
>It was the ass
I don't know why so many retards spout this, it that was true Bayonetta 1&2 or P.N.03 would have sold like hotcakes.

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Not everything is a competition user

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>remove all casual filter from your games
>becomes the most popular game to date
whoa

>PS4 exclusive from a obscure publisher
>on both pc, PS4 and Xbox from square
Wow yeah shocker

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Is Yea Forums looking forward to the sequel?

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>Bayonetta 1&2
False, bayo looks like a tranny compared to 2b. I never got the appeal of those femdom fantasies. It just shows that cute sells more than domshit.

DONT FEED WPRGKUN he’s still mad no one plays his shitting 90s to early 2000s games

You mean the lore from the gacha game?

>But there is nothing wrong with "heavy-handed vehicles for fan service" unless you're a religious puritan or a hambeast/hambeast orbiter.
You're holding up a false dichotomy. Both of the characters in that image are equally scantily clad, but the one in the left actually feels an organic part of the setting, whereas the one in the right sticks out like a sore thumb.

I'm not familiar with FFXIV at all, but how does this relate to NA plot? It's just crossover shit or something else?

Nah mate. Persona 5 is easily one of the greatest JRPGs of all time, with stellar story, themes, atmosphere, visual design, cast, music, and even gameplay. It's easily the peak of its own series as well.

Honestly an amazing game that fully deserves all the sales, but unfortunately would never have sold that much if not for the ass, so I say good for Taro and the team for going in that direction.

lmao Persona 5 peaks in the first palace, how the fuck can P5 be one of the greatest JRPG's of all time if the peak is the very first dungeon.

just a crossover themed raid.

debatable. I for one didn't care for the butt at all, and only got interested on the game a whole year later, after I started noticing people refer to the game as some sort of emotional rollercoaster.
And they were right.

She does stick out like a sore thumb though, she's supposed to, no one thinks she looks normal in her own world.

So it wasn't the ass but cutenes now?
I guess every single moe videogame ever has sold very wellOH WAIT, no, there are games with cute girls as protagonist that have sold very bad, bad, decently, well and very well, like everything else.

Stop baiting zoomzoom. P5 isn't even the best game of its own spin-off series, much less the entire Megaten franchise.

How does P5 peak in the first palace? It peaks after the casino palace - I agree everything from there on is downhill.

bayo has no ass you wapaneese low-t faggot.

Another thread with seething Nintendo, Xbox and PC fags who will never get to play P5R unless they buy a PS4

Its own series sucks just as hard. Persona 5 teased the player into thinking the series finally had something to offer beside a discount friend simulator by restoring some gameplay mechanics and proper dungeons, but both of these turned out to be tremendous letdowns.

That was the same for me as well,
I know it's debatable for the few who didn't buy for ass, but do you really not think the vast majority bought it because they saw an ass and "the gameplay and story is good too I guess" attached?

Also, cute != moe. Faggot weeb.

>lmao Persona 5 peaks in the first palace,
It does not.
The 2nd palace is already way better, and Futaba's tomb is the best chapter.
Even after that, the game remained damn engaging and enjoyable. I can only criticize Haru's introduction taking place too late, and the very end-game having pointless exposition dump. Those do not reduce the otherwise magnificent ride by much though.

never played persona 5 but is it true that the game takes 90+ HOURS to complete?

The first Nier for 360, not Automata.

did they fix the pc port yet?

more like western sjw trash btfo.

i only play japanese games and a few slav ones but its not even funny that weebshit goevs mainstream and casual fucks play it. western media and sjw devs should brainwash western normies more than ever and stop them playing weebshit. i dont want to see western shit media covering japanese games and all that shit.

>Stop baiting zoomzoom
Go back to bed, kiddo.
I'm 31, my wife's a year older, and not only have we played ALL of Purse-Owner games + most of the SMT titles, but we both consider 5 to be the peak of the whole saga. It actually managed to beat P3:FES, which is something.

>Its own series sucks just as hard.
Stop being so negative.

You didn't buy it for the writing

Taro felt that he had some more bullshit left in his ass for Nier fans to gobble up and Yoshida is desperate for other people's ideas to pad his WoWclone.
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>the one in the left actually feels an organic part of the setting
Just like the 1000 year old loli shit, this doesn't hold up to scrutiny because we all know the actual reason she's dressed like that is they wanted a half-naked chick. Which is perfectly fine, no reason to waste time coming up with pages of lore on why when no one short of absolute retards like you will believe it for a second anyways

I'm being honest. The Persona series - from 3 onward at least, I can't speak for the first 2 games - have been poor RPGs.
I can understand newcomers having such low standards that they tolerate the horrible dungeons each of these games feature, but none of these games have any substance to offer genre veterans.

no, use mods.

>people are seriously trying to pretend Persona is a niche franchise
it hasn't been niche or obscure since 3 dude

Why the FUCK isn't Nier backwards compatible on Xbone yet?

>One is a turn based game from a previously slightly niche series (SMT)
>The other is an action game that was also a multiplat. Plus has that ASS factor
No wonder...

They are preparing a Nier 1 remaster. Be a good goy now.

Wow bro, you managed to finish P3???!!!!!!! What an epic gamer you are. P5 is fine, but it's not even the best game of its own series. It has many of the same character development problems P4 had while introducing many more with the purely directed overall story.

oh god /eog/ is leaking again

Zoomers actually think p3 is hard because reddit told them its unbeatable without direct party control.

>The Persona series - from 3 onward at least, I can't speak for the first 2 games
Then don't say anything.
Also newsflash: there's many types of "RPGs". If you only limit yourself to one definition, nothing will ever be acceptable.

P3 was great. P4 was okay. P5 was damn great.

Persona 5 is soulless, the prime example of style over substance.

>Multiplat
>Sells 4M
>Sony exclusive
>Sells almost 3M
I don't know

>he doesn't get why Kaine dresses that way
c'mon son, think

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lol

This would be my first time buying the game, so I don't really care. But after Automata got ported to Xbone I was expecting Nier to become backwards compatible sometime soon.

Etrian isn't even that good, there are DPRGs a lot better than it. That said, it has much more going for it than Persona ever did.

It's almost like there is a market for platinum games.

on ps4.

Concerned genocide Dad > angsty male prostitute twink who hates his sister

Why the hell are you so mad and got so defensive?
>bayo has no ass
Objective lie, but whatever, the example can be done about Bloodrayne, the Tomb Raider games that haven't sold well, or, again, P.N.03
>Also, cute != moe
Another objective lie, and again, you haven't rebuttal the actual point, only spoutting insults like a teen suffering of Tourette syndrome.

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The forest in nier one is better and more original than everything in both games combined

>a single room with 3 NPCs
I enjoyed the Deathdream segment too, quite a bit actually, but it also magnified just how limited the game really was.

to be fair, Nier can be bought on 2 CURRENT platforms, cant say the same about persona 5
a steam or switch release would help the games sales considerably
>inb4 port beggar
its just the truth bro, games this gen are way too easy to port to PC since all consoles are now custom build PCs, all runing in x86 arquitecture, the only thing keeping games away from PC is exclusivity deals

I want yoko taro to write ff 16s story (characters)

yoship wants it too

retard

If i loved Persona 3 would i like 5?

Play and see it fag

t. bootybothered nintendork who has a big mouth but doesn't actually buy platinum games

platinum should be fully multiplat or they will fucking die

Absolutely.
t. old P3-fag.

Very different tone, but yes probably.
I'd argue that P5 is simultaneously more lighthearted and more SMT than P3.

Retard you're comparing a game sold in multiple platforms to one sold on two, not to mention you're comparing a hack and slash to a fucking turn based JRPG
It's like comparing apples to a fucking rock

Persona 5 sold better beyond expectations and exclusivity means Atlus keeps more of the profits. Plus PC and Switchfags seethe

if platinum were to die it wouldn't be due to the consoles they put games on(they're pretty evenly dispersed at the moment in terms of consoles they have games on), it would more be due to their blatant mismanagement of projects, starting 8 new projects before they are even halfway done with one.

>Also newsflash: there's many types of "RPGs". If you only limit yourself to one definition, nothing will ever be acceptable.
So pray tell, what kind of type of RPG is Persona? What does it offer that other RPGs don't?

Persona 5 sold 2,7 millions on PS4 alone, Nier is on multiple platforms if Persona 5 was it would also sold as Nier. Regardless we should be happy that JRPGs are selling well and I hope Square expands on Nier franchise from now on.

Life sim

Roughly half of Nier Automata's sales are from the PS4 alone. PC and Xbox sales are a mere fraction

I bought it for Taro

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>Life sim
lolwut. The supposed 'life sim' aspect of Persona 5 are just a watered down version of what you see in normal RPGs.

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>make a great game
>give customers what they want
>sell 4 million
>happy with that

>EA make shit bf5
>low effort, copy and past from bf1
>talk shit to customers
>tell them not to buy it
>sell 13 million
>underperformed

is this pic real?

the left screen definitely is.

How fucking retarded are you?

The main profit from EA games doesn't come from copies sold, but from microtransactions and monetization.

The level of budget between the two is completely different

I wish and wish with all my heart

>Automato is on multiple platforms while P5 is only on one
>Forgetting P5 is on a 90 millions PS3 + 97 millions PS4 userbase
Even of you assume no less than half the PS3's or PS4's userbase should be removed to account for people that bought a PS3 then a PS4, it still amounts to the same userbase as PS4+Xone

Why is Persona 5 being compared to Nier?

I bought it because I liked Nier and wanted a sequel. I would of liked the cancer wave following automata to not exist but whatever

is the left screen really real?

A JRPG gives you two or three dialogue options at each prompt.
>Wow so much freedom!
A WRPG gives you four.
>Fallout 4 worst RPG ever!

the absolute state of personafags

KH3 BTFO'd every Jap game this year though

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Undereveloped trannies who call themselves journalists see them both as ''anime games''.

Not to mention Persona 5 cost significantly more to develop. It dwarves even the budget of many triple-A RPGs. So Nier Automata made far more profit than Persona 5.

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And the right is more fun

This guy gets it.

Ys 8 as well.

...can we say we are real, user?

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no, you're only an illusion

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Nier sold because it had incredible gameplay and fantastic storytelling that propels videogame as an art form. The gratuitous sex in it only serves to detract from the story elements and the game would have sold a lot more if it didn't objectify women.

Almost every modern JRPG aside from horrible kusoge like FF15 or games from Gust and Compile Hearts is better than P5

Fuck off resetera

>2B booty harm the sales
>Delusional
get yourself check son you might not be OK on the head

detroit become human BTFO
persona 5 BTFO
dmc 5 BTFO

How the fuck did nier automata outsell these games that has a large following. The first nier sold something around 200k in its entire lifetime
Resident evil BTFO

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The absolute power of DAT ASS

>incredible gameplay
no

>still mad about bayonetta

thanks for keeping platinum alive so we get number 3 bro

The original Nier probably sold more copies in the West when Square started reprinting it than its initial run.

Ass

>and the game would have sold a lot more if it didn't objectify women.
lmao ok you silly hole

>mfw I didn't even make the connection that Nier and Nier Automata were even related until literally right now
My brain just forgot Nier existed.

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>So pray tell, what kind of type of RPG is Persona?
JRPG with dungeon crawling, Pokemon and Life/Dating Sim -elements.

the very fact that you play the female imperative game of
>you have to justify why she is dressed like this beyond you liking it
is why you will always be picrelated

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i liked persona 5 over automata, but liked p4 and nier 1 far more than the sequels. these games sorta lose their novelty after playing one entry

Next you'll be surprised to hear that they're both directly related to the Drakengard / Drag-On Dragoon series ?

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Persona 5 was not fun. So glad I didn't waste a single moment playing it.

Nier Automata sold very well on PC it sold like 1,5 millions.

I literally entered this thread for ass pics and i'm so disappointed. Fuck you Yea Forums

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people overlook this so much, the entire game of automata is fuckin retread after retread to save money because they couldnt make new areas, its fucking dull as shit and they did the same thing in nier 1 too

Good. False-flagging beta-fags like you have no place in my Nier threads.

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>Not to mention Persona 5 cost significantly more to develop. It dwarves even the budget of many triple-A RPGs. So Nier Automata made far more profit than Persona 5.

This is the stupidest thing I ever heard about. Persona 5 is nowhere near AAA budget it is AA game the fact that Atlus considers it a success at just 2,7 millions sold tells you enough.

...or, you know, they wanted you to get familiar and accustomed to the environments?

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I'm pissed at square because now is the perfect time to do a re release of Nier for current gen hardware/PC, and they don't seem to want to do it.

You just know there's nincels here hating on p5 through a game they don't even have on their console
Sad times

despite being a very shitty port of quite obscure series with not a single official fix even to this day
really tells you about power of that ass.
but im just glad that Taro's marketing trick worked for him and we got more nier in the end.

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>botw
lole

the game is on pc retard

lolwut no WRPG let's me live my fantasy of living anime life in a modern day Tokyo and date anime girls.

>This is the stupidest thing I ever heard about. Persona 5 is nowhere near AAA budget

>bigger team sizee than triple-A RPGs
>twice as long development time as triple-A RPGs

Even if it isn't AAA budget, it's hardly a stellar example of project management. To say nothing of the absolutely atrocious localization...

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It wasn't a very fun game, I watched a steamer play through it and didn't enjoy it. I probably won't buy it when it comes out on switch either.

are you seriously trying to imply that Atlus fans haven't been the butt of a lot of jokes for the past decade, it only became less common to make fun of those guys when it became more accepted by normies to be weebs

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It wasn't just ass Platinum name and great scores helped also.

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It's the same gameplay with some extra battle mechanics like baton pass. If you enjoyed 3, 4 or 5 you'll enjoy the others.

>It wasn't a very fun game
>I watched a steamer play through it
sublime trollan

People know that pictures like this and similar ones are always bait/joke pictures right?... right?

Which is worse than the first one.

*malware

>didn't objectify women.
Why you don't talk about the male representation both sexes are basically walking fan service in this game. why cant we appreciate beauty anymore ?

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12 units? Where did he got that?

>shirtless faggots who aren't even attractive
>equivalent to 2b's level of exposure

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Nier was better than Persona 5, but both were amazing games that deserve even higher sales.

>one shit game btfo another shit game
Yikes

is this momokun

too fat

>those motherfucking pillars
That cypress stick was not worth it.

But Persona 5 is complete ass?

Japanese devs aren't paid outrageous salaries like US devs.

When you first meet them they are 100% naked , did you play the game ? not to mention how similar they are to those k-pop / j-pop "dudes"

I stopped reading your post after the first sentence, i'd just like you to know that you're a faggot

Those quotation marks are like calling an attractive vidya girl a "girl" because she's unrealistic. Just saying.

i'm referring to this type of dudes not the in-game characters. is because they hardly resemble a male

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really sad knowing that sony would have forced nier to be censored if it came out today and it probably wouldn´t have sold nearly as many copies as a result

P5 did face a tough censorship , is what made me skip the game.

The term "sex sells" doesn't refer to "sex games". It's that sexiness sells.

A sexy character or sexy ad will attract attention, which will then sell your product because more people know what it is.

Of course "sex games" specifically don't sell because actual porn or products designed around sexiness from the ground up (Senran Kagura, Onechanbara, etc.) are an inherent niche. They're not what the phrase "sex sells" is referring to.

>Atlus got to keep more of the profits due to only being on one platform
Please explain what sort of insane logic you're using to claim that being on more platforms takes away more of your profits.
The only cost is during development if you don't build your game to be easy to port.

Fuck Automata. Now Yoko Taro's gonna make soulless not edgy shit cause Automata struck it big

I will take games with positive messages over the edgy shit any day.

Then you don't like real Yoko Taro

>incredible gameplay
isn't it just a discount metal gear rising? you just slash health sponges? whats great about that?

Pod programs add more depth than Rising

90 million PS4s sold, weeb game only sells 4 mil across platforms. What the fuck do ps4 owners play?

FIFA and COD and Fortnite

wtf is that

we're still wondering, since xv lost $33 million.

Fifa and fortnite , what dumb question is that ?

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Fifa/Fortnite machine

Nani?
The game is on both pc and xbone

>The gratuitous sex in it only serves to detract from the story elements
Know its bate but desire is literally the core of the later parts of the story.

this comment is meaningless, the prime example of wanting to fit in with Yea Forums shitposters on a game you haven't played.

>clawed dragonskin gloves and dragonskin pants that never actually leads anywhere

So much of this game was nothing but a dicktease. Automata was good but it's definitely one of Taro's weaker titles.

If Square was smart they'd have a team doing a slight graphical update and port of the first right now + Taro working on another one.

Here’s something else that’s realistic

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who is persona games marketed towards? from everything i've seen it looks like its for women and gay men. like life is strange

I got memed into buying Automata at half off and it still wasn't worth that price. The original NIER absolutely shits on it. Every single aspect is better, especially the music and story. THICCposters carried this game.

the only people who say it peaks in the first palace are console-war shitposters, tortanic shitters, and zoomers who stopped watching their favorite twitch streamers play it after the first palace. at this point, it's one of the most basic bitch "criticisms" that actually exposes people for never playing the game.

realistic is a buzzword

>THICCposters carried this game.
the real time soundtrack is pretty nice

the only people pushing the narrative that p3 is "hard" are p3babbies who want to act elitist over liking the most boring game in the series.

>who is persona games marketed towards?
patricians who enjoy god-tier games.

What does it fucking matter if they're not forced to keep persona exclusive? It's exclusive and nier is not and that's that. It should come as no surprise when multiplats sell more than exclusives and that's why it's a shocker when they don't like Days gone selling more than MK.

nice non-answer. i'll continue avoiding this obvious cancer of a series

The main story cutscenes are 40+ hours. All of the lifesim stuff is around 25. So you'll at best spend 30 hours in dungeons and combat.

I have KH3 and Automatta lined up for vacations. I'm the most curious about Nier but I''l play it second just in case I need a plate cleanser.