FFXV's combat was a downright travest-

Barry is hyped for FF7R, game is doomed.

I don't play weeb trash but why are a bunch of homosexuals attacking that innocent rhino?

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"Look Mom I pressed this button and the vidya did a fancy animation. So cool!"

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literally all games are like that.

>rhino walks around randomly while edgy looking dudes do misfitting animations that look pathetic

Barry, I don't think you know what real combat is.

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the rhino was exhibiting toxic masculinity and these gay men are on a mission to stop it

>it’s not okay when Final Fantasy does it

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Why do people think FF15's combat was any less braindead that FF7's?
There isn't even any positional consideration in 7.

Automata's combat shits down on FF15 so hard it's literally impossible for that garbage game to recover.

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finally fantasy doesn't let you play as big butt robot with boobies

WHY THE FUCK do they stumble and jump around so much and lift their arms up? It's like they have poor footing.

Is Barry the patriarchy of Yea Forums?

>hold down attack button to awesome
>occasionally mash dodge button
>instant heals with no limitations other than how much you have at one time

I’m struggling to see the difference.

XV-kun, are you so saddened by the fact that nobody even wants to talk about your game anymore that you are resorting to making your own threads?

It's ok when Platinum does it.

Found it chaotic, especially with the camera and the many many occasions where the game would throw 4+ enemies at you while the camera chooses not to make foliage transparent.

>hold down attack button to awesome
Literally the first thing you've said is wrong

I'm at the final battle now, I enjoyed every bit of the game until leviathan fight. The whole time I was wondering why Yea Forums shit on this game and then it all made sense. The whole game after leviathan fight seemed like they just patched together what they had to get it out the door.

That's kind of what happened. Insomnia is OK now too desu

Almost finished up my first playthrough of XV and I'm kind of underwhelmed with it. It started strong with the road trip vibe and had some feels along the way but the pacing and story shits itself. I was excited about the combat and ascension at the start only to realize how shallow it is. Magic sucks, quests suck. Potential was there but it's frankly just unsatisfying.

Going to play FFXII next in the list of FF games I haven't played. Hopefully it's not shit but if it is I'll be way quicker to stop playing it than I was with XV.

>everybody stumbles around attacking at random
>dance around to enemy's butt
>teammates teleport into canned animation

It's not just that. It was also the huge sections of map that you couldn't actually go to, the fact that aside from Leviathan town, there's no real city except for that Mediteranian-feeling town that is maybe 3 blocks in size, the fact that the side quests are all pretty boring and don't give much in the way of rewards (unless you are super psyched about a flying car), and the fact that the combat is piss easy.

Make sure you get the Zodiac Edition because that game is night unplayable without the option to turn combat speed to x4.

FF12 is much, much better though it has some flaws. It's essentially the last mainline FF game that weren't shit.

>the last mainline FF game that weren't shit.
That would be IX.

Depends if you like doing hunts. If you do, it's an alright game. If you don't, the game is needlessly complex for how short and stupid it is.

No, both X and XII considerably surpass both FF8 and FF9 in terms of quality.

You can hold it and do an auto-combo. You will eventually have to press it again, but the difference between holding and mashing it is frankly negligible.

Chinese poacher simulator

>You can hold it and do an auto-combo
Holding it launches a charged attack
Thanks for confirming that you don't know jack shit about the combat system.

Not if you are using her/his standard light sword.

Lots of cope in this thread. FFXV's combat is arguably the best action combat system in vidya.

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Makes sence since they were made for the modern systems, doesnt make them not shit though

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All weapons in the game without an exception have charged attacks, this includes small swords.
Two out of four weapon categories also have heavy charged attacks on 2B as well as all weapon categories on 9S.
Keep your mouth shut and stop embarrassing yourself.

LOL that's what all the classic FFs are tho

This man is correct
FFXV is the best combat action game out in the video game market
This game stomps all other RPGS out of the water

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You don’t play much vidya, do ya?

I'm so fucking happy that they finally stopped doing shit for this game. Good fucking riddance.

I think you need to go back and play it. You definitely can do an autocombo by holding the attack button.

Based and Dantepilled.

>I think you need to go back and play it
No, YOU need to go back and play it, retard. As well as watch some combo tutorials because you're spouting an absolute nonsense.

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I remember in the leadup to FFXV's release, somebody was legit trying to push it in action game threads. Bayonetta 2 and some other Platinum stuff had come out, DMC 4 HD ports were giving the fanbase renewed hope, and Ninja Gaiden remained eternally restless. And some autist was going, "Yeah FFXV is gonna be cuhrazy too!" with some bizarre consistency in threads.

It's almost offensive in retrospect considering the actual gameplay is more "hold button to unleash flashy canned animation" and is more braindead and lumpy than the easy automatic modes of Bayo/DMC.

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This is how I feel too, the Leviathan fight is when everything starts going to shit. What makes it so sad is that everything leading up to Leviathan is the best stuff. Road trip with Iris, touching moment with Cid and the picture, cool water city. Then (spoilers) bam, super saiyan Noctis cinematic fight into dead waifu (if you cared, Iris best girl) into unnecessary tension with Gladio into maimed Ignis. I think the writer got brain damage or had a bad breakup or something. I could go on and on but everyone knows that it's shit.

I got the Zodiac, thanks for the advice.

Cool, well honestly I don't think XII could be any worse than XV and I did every sidequest and hunt in that so.

I played every major route at least twice. You can definitely auto-combo by holding light attack button. There are charge attacks for heavy weapons and you can mash the light attack instead, but it doesn’t change the fact that you can hold the button as well. Go try it right now.

>You can definitely auto-combo by holding light attack button
Holding light attack button launches a charged attack.
A2 straight doesn't have light charged attacks but a taunt instead.
It's obvious that you've never played the game, retard.

Idol culture has ruined so many Japanese aesthetics.

It’s obvious that you never even tried holding the button down and don’t want to admit you are wrong.

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Based.

When you hold the heavy attack button, you do the charge attack. Now, please apologize to me and Final Fantasy XV.

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>Iris best girl
Ah, I see you are a man of culture as well.

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>he's a fucking phoneposter
Of course.
Here, a small guide for you if you decide to open your mouth again.

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It says hold S or T because you can equip heavy/light weapons for either button, retard.

Yes and even light button has a charged attack.
In fact even 9S throws are technically charged attacks.

It's funny how this game just died and nobody cares anymore.

One (1) person does

>Barry doesn't even have all the achievements for FF15
What a fucking poser

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>FFXV's combat is shi-

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Why did they just do dissidia or kh combat. This looks like garbage.

all of the flashy shit is a complete waste of time and way slower for actually killing enemies and getting shit done. get new material.

so just like every stylish action game?

Combat was great.
Open world was shit. Open world is cancer killing aaa games.

Aranea>>> Iris

>i am bad at DmC and KH

then DMC must be shit too

are you retarded?

Is this the daily shitting on FFXV thread?

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The problem with FF15 combat is not the flashy shit, it's the fact that it's a literal awesome button combat.

If anything, it let me picture what the turn based fight was supposed to represent

If final fantasy wants to go real time why not just copy monster hunter or dark souls combat?

Those are literally perfected real time hack and slash type combat.

Final fantasy should really just stick to turn-based combat. Its not like there are any turn-based games left and its a lot less stressful just using turn based-combat. Pokemon hasn't stopped using turned based combat and everyone loves it. Why do you have to change square?

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>play classic final fantasy
>lol mash attack to win
Great game guys

I'm so glad I didn't buy this pile of garbage

If you like fisting asses and getting doodoo on your arm then I guess the combat is okay.

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>crashing gives a fucking game over
they could have just have it fade to black with you at a gas station, but I guess that was just too hard

User error

>dark souls
weak bait

>Those are literally perfected real time hack and slash type combat.

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>why not just copy monster hunter or dark souls combat?
user, imagine controlling 4 people at once in souls combat

okay fine, not literally. I actually agree that the parrying shit is retarded

There are Ai alies in dark souls.

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you're mistaking combos for the charged attack. Small swords hit multiple times but that's not a combo, it's a charged move but with a different animation, retard

>hold attack to win

Amazing how people only claim this only have videos against random trash mobs in the overworld and not big bosses or mini bosses etc.

You don't seem to understand what QTE means because nothing in that WEBM has anything at all to do with them.
Also FromSoft gameplay has drastically improved in the past 10 years.
FF15 combat is pathetic compared to Sekiro.

You also have no control over Solaire.

I enjoyed it, but I didn't find myself awfully invested in a combat system that felt like it had a lot of potential for variety, but seemd to reward "optimal strategy" (eg. the same couple of moves).

It looks... weird, like if they were super heavy.

>FromSoft gameplay has drastically improved in the past 10 years.
If anything, it's gotten worse.

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>If final fantasy wants to go real time why not just copy monster hunter
they did that already.

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youtube.com/watch?v=efX8P-1-t3E

>final fantasy explorers

this combat actually looks better than ff15

>lost all the estus flasks
>had to POISON Gael
>still bitches about rolls

Once you initiate takeoff, you lose control until you're at a certain height.

Cope.

Cope.

>this combat actually looks better than ff15
That's a low bar if I've ever seen one. There are games from the early 2000s with better combat than FFXV.

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Knowing that why would you initiate take off there?

>travest-
travesti? that is a man who dresses like a woman in my language

that's a given. literally every other attempt by final fantasy to do an action-based rpg is better than xv.
explorers, crystal chronicles, adventures of mana, crisis core, type-0 - they're all better than "hold o to win: the movie."

Becasue streetlights are everywhere?

Wow you side stepped a goblin.

Grats user! Sure showed me better combat.

The rhino didn't dress well enough

>adventures of mana
I'm still kinda bitter that they did such a good job updating Final Fantasy Adventure, but such a horrid job at updating Secret of Mana. There are combat breaking glitches that were present at day one, and still haven't been patched out.

Too bad the mutation system is ass. Diminished returns on abilities after so many +s, but the game never explains that. Getting certain mutations is an absolute pain in the ass as well.

He literally spends all of his time on here defending it and nothing else. I fucking have more achievements on that game than he does and I wouldn't say I was a huge fan of it.

-y

Even DS games have better combat than XV.

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Play the game and then shit on it, you faggot.

EMPTINESS STRIKES YOU OUT OF NOWHERE

It is really hood but it just needed to be polished more, it would've been great then.

who tf takes off while turning?

EMPTINESS DON'T NEED ANY HEAVEN

It's okay when Platinum does it and Nier Automata is still a much better game.

EMPTINESS DON'T NEED ANY HEAVENS

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Based

The diffrence is FFXV feels like shit to play.

>FFXV feels like shit to pla-

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even kirby has better combat than xv.

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y

is this Seiken Densetsu 4?

Also looks like shit too.
Weeaboo wetdreams. Only thing missing is the naruto running animation

>no longer content with getting BTFO'd in threads about other vidya, Barry takes it upon himself to create an avenue to get BTFO'd on his turf
Hokie-doke buddy. I've never met another (((man))) solely sustained by his own impotent rage.

Git gud.

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One of the best boss fights in the game, honestly, along with Pinky and Lollipop.

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>its another Yea Forums can't into video games thread

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Sorry pal, WHM combat in FFXIV has more depth than that shit

>implying FFXV is even that hard to git gud at

You don't think ARPGs can stand next to legitimate action games do you?

>Hold Circle to win
Yawn zone.

Automata is just mediocre in combat when it comes to action/arpgs.
FFXV is just even worse.

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KH2FM

>MGR bellow KH1 and the GoW games
I disagree.

>FFXIV is terrib- while posting vids of the games shitty combat
>people say the combat looks shitty
>n-no u
>rinse and repeat
get new material

Nice joke

it's different because you have to select it through a menu first you shitposter

>2FM that high
>KH1 that high
>MGR that low
Is this list a joke?

What's being used here? This actually looks really cool.

Nice argument.

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KH is a game for babies, the only argument that needs to be had is if your bed time needs to be pushed back.

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>KH
>action game
>DmC
>good

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KH2FM deserves that spot.

>press triangle to win
Super deep game there.

MGR's only saving grace is it's bosses and music.
Zandatsu gets old after a while.

9S' launcher and charged attack and two separate Pod Programs.

If you know nothing about action games then maybe.
So its saving grace is the most important parts of an action game? It deserves to be higher than an ARPG by the fact that it isn't an ARPG

I just hate teleportation combat, it's just really unfun for the eyes.

nice cinematic attack that is one button press

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>kingdom hearts that high

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RCs don't automatically make you win.
Nice way of showing that you didn't play the game.

>Being overleveled for that fight
Nasty.

KH2FM has amazing bosses and music too?
I don't get your double standard.

>Git gud.

Everyone is already gud at XV due to the combat pandering to casuals as the director intended

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Doesn't really matter when you can fight a super boss version of him near the end game.

>NG2 above Black
Your list is absolute trash and you should burn in the fires of hell for all eternity

It's amazing how everyone are too retarded to tell that ALL action games are playable in two ways:
Piss easy hold down 1 button (every action game, this includes DMC, KH, FF15, Nier)
or
Wanna be stylish to seem cool to yourself achieving what is piss easy but with extra fingers being used

>He fell for the 'MGR has bad gameplay' meme

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Kingdom Hearts is entirely dictated upon the stats you have, it doesn't care if you're good enough at the game to beat it legitimately and even if you're playing on level 1 you have a get out of jail free card with drives. The only people who think it's something even close to the word deep are speedrunners who're too autistic to use rational thought, the dickriders who listen to them, and literal children who have never played an actual action game in their lives. No ARPG deserves any spot next to an actual action game.

That's The Gaming Brit's list he did in a livestream.

git gud

based

this looks boring as fuck

the combat is not that bad, however, the story was a big clusterfuck

No one thinks or ever thought that FF7's combat was challenging.
But you still have to make every decision for every character in the battle (and in true ATB style you have to make those decisions without hesitating or else you're punished).

How many times do we have to teach you this lesson Barry?

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That would explain why RE6 is there.

You've never played an actual game if you think they require you to hold down a single button ever.

Final Fantasy XV is a great action game
Cope and have sex losers

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...or just open the item menu and have a good think. ATB didn't get time pressure until 13.

over half of these aren't action games. They're just shitty RPGs and then some beat em ups

>Kingdom Hearts is entirely dictated upon the stats you have, it doesn't care if you're good enough at the game to beat it legitimately and even if you're playing on level 1 you have a get out of jail free card with drives.
You realize 2FM has minimum damage scaling regardless of level?
You don't need to use drives or shit to beat it either.

>Phoneposter

It’s not even a good ARPG.

Kingdom Hearts being anywhere at all, or above C tier throws this list in the trash

>the same retarded phoneposter who tried to bash Nier is now blatantly samefagging

Yes it is
You are both in denial
Have sex incels

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You got the wrong guy

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>Phoneposter

This man actually spent 100k red orbs on the easiest difficulty. That's funny.

>FFXV is a great action game
>it doesn't matter if it lost the company 33 million and got the director fired
>so what if it had all its DLC cancelled? that happens to a lot of great games right?
>so what if the game is basically a butchered attempt to rebrand a pre-existing game that never got off the ground?
FFXV haters BTFO out amirite? haha

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Square hasn't made a good game since FFIX

>computerposter

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>he actually believes this

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Ahem.

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Strange when I bought the full FINISHED game on release I couldn't do anything like that, or do you imply the game wasn't finished until 1,5 year in its life time? I refuse to go back and play again the full game after it was already finished once and they thought it was acceptable the release then

Do people actually post thi Webm seriously or is it just a joke? Entire game is garbage, broken and unfinished

>FFXV is absolute bottom of the barrel tras-

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TWEWY was genuinely amazing. And the fact that Squeenix hasn’t been able to capture the dual screen gameplay of the original is a tragedy.

>he doesn’t think that FFXV is the greatest ARPG this decade

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>handheld trash
>good

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Look at how bland and ugly this shit game is lol

>actually shittalking TWEWY
Man, fuck you.

>a game where you just spam X and triangle until the end
>good
KH fans are such a joke.

why do you keep failing to finish stating the obvious? allow me
>FFXV is absolute bottom of the barrel trash

Looks good ≠ good game

why are they bullying that poor triceratops?

Never played a FF game but why are they even fighting this rhino hybrid looking thing?

>TWEWY
>good
Pick one.

>TWEWY
>not good

Even FF XII and Crisis Core did it better
FF XV is trash

RE, KH, and NMH shouldn't be on the list.

TWEWY IS FUCKING TRASH KILL YOURSELF
FFXV IS BETTER THAN THAT FILTH

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It had its moments where I could feel what they were trying to do, but they casualized ot too heavily to try and maximize sales, and the camera had seizures regularly. The whole game was clearly half baked and unfinished despite having a 10 year dev time

TWEWY is better just based on the fact that it was a completed game on release compared to XV.

Wojakshitter being retarded as usual

>desert
>bunch of faggoty-looking zoomers wearing black jackets and attacking a dinosaur with swords

Kill all retards who like this shitty game.

>t. couldn't git gud

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FUCK BOTH OF YOU

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>phoneposter again

I’m sorry the truth hurts, user.

>computerposter again

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This isn't impressive XVkun, the enemy tells are coming out so slow you have enough time to rape that girl you were stalking.

Holy shit you're retarded. Yes, if you hold down the light attack button with a sword, you'll do a move with 2B where she spins around and that hits enemies multiple times, but that's not an automatic combo. That's like saying swordmaster moves in DMC are auto combo because they hit multiple times. It's not even close to FF15 where you LITERALLY hold the button down and your character does some fancy attacks. This is probably bait anyways though, so fuck it.

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>that girl you were stalking.
Wait, what.

why did those angry teenagers massacre a rhino?

I played this game emulated and never could understand what people thought was great in this shitty emo retarded and short little piece of trash game.

The game is comfy but it keeps crashing every 2 hours

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>game has blocking
wow, sure showed me

How and why is he doing that?

Why do you shill this game? The more you do it, the more aggressive the hate for the game garners here. FFXV is a pile of unfinished shovelware and nothing will change that fact. Save your webms and time.

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it's a meme game. only people in here think it's great. nowhere else.

>emulated
>emo
>short
This is too much bait for me to handle.

BUY HIS FUCKING GAME AND HIS MOVIE AND HIS FUCKING NOVEL VOLUME
FUCK KHFAGS AND DMCFAGS
FFXV IS THE BEST FUCKING ACTION GAME
KILL YOURSELVES

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It's short though. You can finish this game in less than 10 hours even if you don't know what you're doing.

>nowhere else
>he says when TWEWY is considered a cult classic and got great reviews and player reception on release

XV and KH aren't even action games you nonce

>game is so bad its DLC gets cancelled and has to be put into a book instead
fucking amazing

Wrong, reddit loves it.

>less than 10 hours
You’re kidding, right?

ITS A ACTION RPG YOU RETARD

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The only thing I hated about this game was Noctis, he's such a pissy bitch, surprised they didn't just make him a faggot.

Yeah so they aren't action games, they're action games for babies.

>buying shovelware

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not in VR.

I DONT CARE FUCK YOU KILL YOURSELF

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ITT: Plebs getting filtered by XV.

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Kingdom Hearts has boring combat, but XV beats it out.

>"ITT: Plebs getting filtered by XV."
>posts this
what did the retard mean by this?

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>TGBS
Is that really true? For all the shit he threw at both nuGoW and DmC, it's surprising to see he actually puts those on the same level as games like Onimusha, MGR, Yakuza, etc. Sounds like he enjoyed those games more than he let on his videos for the sake of clickbait/controversy.

What shocks me even more is seeing fucking Vanquish so high, not to mention it shares the same spot as the "legendary" RE6. Did he change his mind or something? I'm pretty sure he said VQ was mediocre at the time.

This is why I stopped watching his content; either he isn't transparent, or flip-flops on opinions without a consistent framework, making these ranks completely worthless, and his fans even more so for enabling the worshiping of a shockingly mediocre e-celeb who isn't even that popular. Nice image for ants btw.

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e-celebs are just attention whores who hold no true opinions.

FUCK YOU FAGGOT
XV IS THE BEST GAME OF ALL TIME

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*blocks your path*

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e-celeb, therefore he is just an attention whore who shifts opinions whenever he deems necessary.

If you like it so much, why don’t you go back there?

Was this meant to look like it requires skill?

I lose track of which of the older games had the "active vs wait" configurable or not. Either way the main point is that you're fully managing every action for 3 characters.

Cope.

Cope with what?

ffxv actually looks pretty good, if it's on sale I might buy it honestly

Based.

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This requires no more skill than back stab fishing in Dark souls.

>samefagging
oh nonono

Tbf he mentioned in the stream multiple times, that while he personally cares about combat first, he rated those games as a whole package, including story etc.

>I lose track of which of the older games had the "active vs wait" configurable or not
uh, all of them

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Then his ranking makes even less sense

>SE made FFXV and not FF Fractals
Fucking weebs, and their generic JPOP crap, give my space boats and planet fractals.

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Not really.

So ignoring the shitposters. Can someone tell me why KH2's battle system is held in high regard? I haven't played any KH games. I just go from hearsay. Like people saying KH3's battle system is a step down from KH2 or whatever.

It's not as bad as it's made out to be, but the story does get kind of jumbled at some points. The combat is actually fun, there is a "Hold X to Autocombo" thing but there's zero need or obligation to fight that way and you get to use finisher moves if you don't. It's not the best final fantasy by far, but as its own game its alright. The roadtrip stuff is pretty fun too, they did a good job on getting that feeling across.

Speedrunners conflate their fucked up way of playing the game as being deep. It does nothing special from other ARPGs.

do you still play it? how's the online game-mode?

Then the list is an even bigger pile of shit.
Especially with No More Heroes that high and a fucking RE6 in A

I've read around for a bit after posting. While most agree with your take, they do persist though that you won't feel the actual battle system affecting the game unless you play "Critical Mode" whatever that is.

Brit loses points for having not played Oni 3 and ZOE2 yet

Why is it always this webm? It looks mediocre at best. Is this some kind of elaborate false flag?

BASED

>that while he personally cares about combat first, he rated those games as a whole package
If he prioritizes combat, then he should rate accordingly. What's the point of singing praises to something that he doesn't actually enjoy? It all becomes empty statements devoid of any real meaning if he doesn't mean what he says.

It's not like he plays the role of "objective" reviewer in his videos either. Most of his commentary boils down to basic "this I like/don't like" statements with snark thrown in and wacky editing and 1-frame jokes.

That's not even touching on the fact that makes the list even more questionable. Why is DMC4 an S and Yakuza, Onimusha, or hell, even GoW or DmC only a C if that's the case? If there's anything DMC4 fails at big time, is being a good package.

SHUT UP
BUY HIS GAME Yea Forums
BUY HIS MOVIE
BUY HIS NOVEL
BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HIS GAME RIGHT NOW
FUCK KHKEKS AND FUCK DMCKEKS

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>"objective" reviewer
What does this even mean?

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>solely sustained by his own impotent rage.
What about caramel? He's been going on with his "JUST YOU WAIT KOJIMA GENIUS WILL REVEAL THAT DEATH STRANDING IS MGS0/SILENT HILLS" for 3 years.
I'm looking forward to this loonie return for E3 2019

I already bought his game and regretted it.

What's the point of rating games as a "package"? That's stuff like what ACG and other professional reviewers do, they mostly analyze a product at a surface level that's ready to be consumed, more so than listing off their own preferences, or ponder about the game design like what Mattosis and Anderson do.

Those are all different styles of reviewing, and TGBS doesn't do neither exceptionally well. The main drawn there is his humor and personality.

Based

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BUY IT AGAIN YOU FUCKING FAGGOT
KILL YOURSELF FOR NOT HELPING DETHRONE FORTNITE

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, no. I’ll play a good game instead.

how long until mods come in and thread gets 100+ posts deleted?

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>That's stuff like what ACG and other professional reviewers do, they mostly analyze a product at a surface level that's ready to be consumed, more so than listing off their own preferences, or ponder about the game design like what Mattosis and Anderson do.
None of which are objective.

>KH2's battle planner is working on FFVII:R

Well at least for sure that game will have a good battle system. It's going to be a grounded version of KH for sure.

>KH
>Good battle system

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I'd rather play fortnite than a 10 year mistake

what's the difference? that webm proves nothing

KH2, not KH3, dude. KH2 had a good battle system.

I put "objective" in quotes for a reason. If you follow the comment chain you'll understand the context better. I was responding to the notion that TGBS somehow detached from his own preferences so he could "properly" rank those games in that manner, but his extreme biases still show.

Was it a fluke?

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I'm not too familiar with his videos, but there are several where he goes in depth with what he likes and doesn't like about a game. He even has a few videos that are over an hour long. Someone that people only watch for humor would be someone like Dunkey, who purposefully misrepresents games for comedic effect.

I'm just here for the inevitable mass deletion of barry. They're always fun

Anybody remember when he got banned 13 times in a single thread?

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...

considering it's only that one mode, I'd say so.

reminder that ffxv-kun doesn't even play the game and only shitposts because it's fun for him

Even Wan Hazmer its lead game designer got fired and banished to working on indie games, not just Tabata.

Tabata is now working on a mobile paralympics game. Making games for literal retards like xv-kun.

Love how xv-kun for a while was seriously trying to convince everyone that Tabata quit the company by himself because SE wanted to force him to direct XVI. Fucking delusional autist.

Nomura spits on Tabata's grave.

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>Dunkey
He would be on the opposite end of the spectrum, yes.

TGBS making in-depth videos isn't really the norm. Most of the stuff I've seen from him is more of a hot take, and meant to be provocative. His nuGoW video perfectly exemplifies this. He starts off by saying he didn't even want to play it in the first place, and that fanboys were nagging him because of the review scores it got.

he is talking about Kagari from neogaf, the jew girl xv-kun threatened to rape because he banned him on neogaf and blocked him on twitter.

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Yep, was just about to post asking if anyone remembers. Kek

>MGR that low
Whoever made this list is a fucking moron.

he was at 16 bans when i left that thread

Holy shit, I will never watch another Gaming Brit Shit video again. What an absolute disgusting list

Reminder that Charlie lurks Yea Forums.

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>slouch around a bit
>Hold O to trigger a cutscene
>press directional button to trigger two other cutscenes
>mess up the button prompt
>position for one final cutscene
eric

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So his list is just even worse in context then.
Christ, what an absolute bong.

>fantasy beast
>literally just a rhinoceros with 2 horns
That's it, shut it all down, it's over.

Play DMC5! :D

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>implying orbs even matter when you can farm it very easily

>inb4 bags of potatoes or whatever the fuck his excuse is

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Is this webm literally the only defence in FFXV's arsenal? It's not even good.

Shit game. Not even years of free and paid content and patches could save it. It's shit and it always will be.

Is this the same kid that calls others retarded in other threads?

>FFXV's monster designs are shi-

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Reminder that a cut-content game had a second season pass cut off and converted into a shitty novel, and the last DLC was immediately forgotten

Started unfinished, ends up still unfinished years later

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god i wish i was good at max act

Are you unable to finish your sentences because you defend an unfinished game?

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BASED

>single enemy with slow ass animations
Now record a fight with multiple fast moving enemies.

WEW

wouldn't be the first time they did that

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>the last DLC was immediately forgotten
This meme is usually wrong but just this once it's entirely true. Episode Ardyn was forgotten in less than a week after its release.

SE was right to cancel the rest of the DLC.

fact: you can beat every dmc and kh on the hardest difficulty by spamming regular attacks and jumps with a bit of timing,nothing more,there aint a single enemy in these games you have to use specific moves to beat

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I'm stealing this

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Based.

yeah, and you can beat FFXV by holding circle. your point?

damn, that's a good one

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Is that an official port or on an emulator? How do you change the sides?

BAH GAWD THIS MAN IS BROKEN IN HALF

i didnt say a word about FFXV,you got bamboozled

>there aint a single enemy in these games you have to use specific moves to beat
Blitz and fury would like to have a word with you.

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don't play coy dipshit you knew damn well what you were implying

to be fair how fucking overleveled is this dude to have that much stam with that amount of armor?

put me in the screencap

OH NO NO NO NO NO

So so sad that FFXV ended up shit just like XIII. It was SUPPOSED TO be a masterpiece of this decade.

I've never seen a video game with such a high budget and potential just waste it all away. No amount of patches and DLC can fix a shit game and FFXV has proven this.

at this point i'm starting to wonder how many of these things are Barry and how many of them are copycats. Then again it falls straight into Barry strategy to begin yet another FFXV offensive against everything else because of VII-R's resurgence

unironically how will he ever recover

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>KH2
>not KH2FM
You had one job

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Put me in the screencap.

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Possibly. But I like those odds better than any other active combat system Square has put out in recent memory.

>"Tabata is now working on a mobile paralympics game."
>decide to check if true
>it is
What the fuck siliconera.com/2019/04/12/hajime-tabata-announces-the-pegasus-dream-tour-as-the-paralympics-first-ever-video-game/
>xv-kun for a while was seriously trying to convince everyone that Tabata quit the company by himself because SE wanted to force him to direct XVI

Cant make this shit up

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i knew someone was gonna get ass mad over it :^)

Nice

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Based

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thread went from 0 to 100 real quick

>Lord of the Flies combat

>Barry just stopped posting after
Embarrassing

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>mobile paralympics
after literally dumbing down XV to holding buttons and braindead combat because he didn't want to remember combos, I wonder if this is a sign that he's disabled himself

this fits to so many games

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>triangle
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>
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>left dpad
>right dpad
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>
>
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>O
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>hold O
Amazing gameplay

>hit the monster's butthole for awesome scripted attack
Kill yourself.

>Phoneposter

What's made even more worse is that the enemy present very little threat too. So all of this arbitrary shit isn't even needed and overly excessive.

I thought owning niggers is illegal. God damn.

Ok this is epic, all unfinished sentence threads are owned.

He could have just held O at the start and killed it much more quickly

>overly excessive

>crisis core, type-0
Those were also Tabata games, why didn't he just use one of those combat systems for XV?
Type-0 even had real time party member switching.

He also pushed a button to watch a cutscene of his allies doing an awesome attack

Well at least he knows his audience.

>KH3 kids still recovering from their poorly received launch PTSD.

Never forget that Tabata was responsible for the Third Birthday.

I’d rather play KH3 than FFXV.

>poorly received

What's that? I haven't bothered keeping up with Square Enix since NieR: Automata.

>FF
>not turn based
Pass

Third birthday is ok

The third game in the Parasite Eve series, except divorced from the prior games enough that they didn't put PE in the title. It was a mediocre third-person-shooter with weird gimmicky mechanics for a PSP game, the story was absolutely convoluted while barely attached to the prior plots, the protagonist Aya was played up for fanservice with shower scenes and even an entire armor mechanic around her clothing taking damage, and you were actually playing as Eve from the second game, possessing the now-dead Aya's body the entire time, which makes the fanservice even more awkward.

The third game in the Parasite Eve series. It was fucking dogshit. Directed by Tabata, what a surprise.

Yes, I remember this tutorial fight too. The real fights were more like press XXX over and over again.

Gotcha. That's a shame. I liked the first two games a lot.

>Action RPG
>good combat

choose one

As opposed to what? A fighting game? A first person shooter? A platformer?

I hope everyone realizes that this isn't a true xv-kun thread but a shitposting imposter having a good time.

Bazztek is a turbo autist and mega obsessed with XV so he would have replied to EVERY single one of you by now calling you kh-kun or khfag telling you to stop samefagging while also replying at his own posts telling himself how based he is and agreeing that XV is a masterpiece.

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What a massively disappointing game FFXV was. What a terrible shame.

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>everyone always says XV is bad
>no reasons why

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>Ys 8
>bad combat

Will he ever recover?

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There are only four turn based FFs.

Are you

It has been 3 years since its release, we have already listed its flaws countless time. Just a "it's shit" now is enough.

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>Barebones plot with almost no dialogue in a FF title
>Gameplay is mostly mindless (holding the attack button and using items freely to never die)
>Very bland side quests make up most of the games content

If they want to do action combat, they should do action combat.
If they want to do menu-based combat, they should do that instead.

Why do they insist on combining the two into a thoroughly mediocre experience that doesn't have any of the aspects that makes the two separate styles fun?

>unfinished game on release
>will never be finished now since Tabata left and the remaining episodes were dropped
>shitty hold circle to win combat
>large, empty open world
>side-characters get zero development
>incoherent plot propped up by a movie and a short anime series

I could go on, but you'll just keep on burying your head in the sand

Anyone that played the Online gamemode? How is it?

>gif accompanied by greentext
>always a newfag that never read a single thread in his life

It has been memed a bit into irredeemable garbage mostly out of spite for ol' Bazz, certainly. But it's not really a well-designed game. You can abuse items when downed or use Phoenix Downs when defeated, which makes death a distant obstacle rather than a real challenge. The AI automating your movements and attacks, and being able to hold a dodge or attack for most things (excluding undodgables and specific encounters) turns the combat into braindead matters. Control is stripped away from you at every turn, and Noctis controls like weighty molasses with absolutely no precision and a wide berth for every action he takes.

The fundamental combat is just not good. "Acceptable" for casual audiences, but terrible for everyone else. And when the core combat of an action RPG is so flawed, everything else unravels at the seams as the world is barren and empty of anything but mineral points and the occasional notable monsters, the systems are dull and repetitive, the story is chopped up into pieces and released all over the place while creating an extraordinarily underwhelming narrative that cuts corners at every opportunity, and the DLC inhibits any sense of cohesion by being so divorced from the rest of the game.

The only good parts are the music and the feeling of the road trip, but the game was and still is unfinished in many ways, and those two benefits don't make up for the severity of the game's issues.

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This.

>RE6 in A
Bait image.

youtube.com/watch?v=4kJrVQwnB2U

They fucked over most of the game, but they nailed it on this title theme. Literally the greatest piece of video game music.

>"hold o to win" combat
>half the game is set in a bland, generic open world, the other half is almost as linear as ffxiii
>most of the side content is a bunch of boring, repetitive fetch quests that are only there to pad out the playtime
>story doesn't even begin to make sense unless you watch a movie, watch an anime, play mobile gacha shit, buy dlc, etc. in addition to playing the base game
>still unfinished years after release and will never be finished
>characters suck, most of them barely get any development
>the game LITERALLY ripped off sonic 06
>all in all, a massive downgrade from everything versus was supposed to be in every way
it's not hard to see why everyone thinks xv is bad.

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>Ignis is much more fun and stronger than Noctis
What were they thinking?

How arw these images made? By hand?

>Literally the greatest piece of video game music.
That would be Besaid from FFX.

Also, XV's combat meets an annoying paradox despite how easy it is and how cheesy you can get with things. The fights aren't hard, but shit like Costlemark Tower and the level 120 Nafagir bonus boss highlight how broken things are because you are faced with nigh-unavoidable damage constantly, a camera that refuses to cooperate, and in the Nafagir's case attacks that require manual dodging with precision or you're instantly downed. But you can just heal through it with enough supplies like it didn't happen. And it creates this retarded cycle of fights not being "hard" by challenging design, but trying to be hard by just spamming damage all over the place and knocking you on your ass every single time. It's repetitively bashing your face against a brick wall and healing the damage until the wall finally crumbles.

This is literally how it goes for every challenging fight in XV that isn't Comrades or the XIV stuff, because the main game is just that incompetently designed. But then most of XV's battles aren't challenging so the stone wall shit stands out even more when it does happen.

>Literally the greatest piece of video game music.
not even the best jrpg music. falcom's sound team could do better than that in their sleep.

Ironically, the "open" world part is just as linear as the second part. One has to wonder what the point is in making an open world, when the player is forced through it in a linear fashion and guided around by quest markers.

this theme is only impactful because of how trash the game turned out after all those trailers as it remembers me noctis trash can suit stabbing human soldiers

>we will never have that speed & momentum in Kirby games again

>muh JRPG doesn't have action combat

Never tried. It's like complaining the stealth is shit in Doom.

Automata had relatively simple combat, but all it had to do was be functional and snappy. At the very least, you had defensive abilities beyond tanking a punch to the mouth and countering by drinking a potion.

Today I will remind them. Again.
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Yeah, you had a dodge button that you could be infinitely spammed.

It's the mobile version

i can't tell what's happening because the webm is so small. there a bigger version?

Because literally no other game causes you an instant game-over from lightly bopping a streetlight?

i agree with this nigger though,waifu fagging and dmc threads are normalfag /vg/ tier shit,it's nothing but epik memes,these threads alone make dmc look like an absolute trash of a series and that's makes me somewhat mad

>He's been going on with his "JUST YOU WAIT KOJIMA GENIUS WILL REVEAL THAT DEATH STRANDING IS MGS0/SILENT HILLS" for 3 years
He quit after the Archillect shit. Literally just stopped posting without a word.

>hey lets hype up an airship car in one of our early 2016 trailers like it's gonna be a big thing
>it's post-game, used only for infinite fuel and getting around the world without fast travel (even though fast travel is faster), less customizable than the regular Regalia and basically can access all of one optional but amusing gimmick platforming dungeon
>and crashing its finicky shit was also where 90% of the playerbase's game overs came from

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he's back after the 8 minute trailer announcement

This is the most confusing thing for me. If they wanted to have relatively simple but flashy combat that was still functional, why didn't they take more notes from Kingdom Hearts? At least you could feel what the hell you were doing in that game.

Only good thing about FFXV were the bros and their roadtrip. Rest sucked shit. DLC was ok.

>hold o to win
>get killed
what the fuck

Destroyed.

Imagine a proper overworld in a classic FF setting with an airship. I miss how the franchise used to be

>The game is literally just holding down a butto-

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fuck this shit.
What's the best royal arm and why is it the Trident of the Oracle?

Because Tabata. He basically had everything already shaped for him with Episode Duscae's combat, besides maybe making more sense of how convoluted the "weapon per attack situation" thing could potentially be. But in a single year's time he dumbed down the entire combat system because he wanted it to be so newcomer friendly - and also because he doesn't want to memorize complex combos or shit like that. A director should always have imprints and all, but he basically dumbed down everything Nomura left behind to appeal to himself and gave the middle finger to everyone else in the process.

-n
that'll be 5 bucks plus tip for that cut co-er I mean DLC

n.

the US release of FF4 didn't have that option.
but I just checked FF7 and it is indeed configurable in that one.

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>no reasons why
lurk moar newfag

why not use phoenix down?
>b-but it wouldn't be just hold O
selecting an option with infinite time in a menu isn't gameplay

>Somnus was composed over 10 years ago

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Based and Hoypilled.

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>tfw the omen trailer was a whole load of nothing and had almost no bearing on the finished game
still mad

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that's one of the bazztek cherrypicked webms. his methods of trying to shut down people's arguments about the combat being braindead and easy was, without fail, always "run into attacks and counters without dodging and then not bother healing afterwards" to attempt to make those he was debating look bad.

anyone with even a passing knowledge of the game could call him out on his bullshit.

Alot of the trailers was a whole load of nothing. It was MGSV all over again

Only difference however, is that MGSV has gameplay

>Kojima
>Gameplay

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The fact that you have to actively go out of your way to not use healing items, which have no penalty for using, in order to put up a facade of challenge for this game is just bad game design.

MGSV had great gameplay. The problem was the content

Funny cause FFXV suffers the opposite. Great content, but shit gameplay

Warp striking and noctis's powers are cool imo. The game should have just embraced action and hired people who are experienced in making action games. The worst thing about the combat is that it has no progression. You finish the game with the exact same limited moves you start with. This works only with extremely tight minimalist games. It's a shame because the animations are really great. Imagine if each type of weapon had 4 different combos + unlockable special weapon moves you could map to O + up/down/left/right + flashy special attacks for another button + transition/switching attacks between certain weapons + a good magic system. This seems too ambitious, but honestly there's no reason they shouldn't have gone for something like this since they spent time and resources creating new character movesets from scratch the game was not designed around.
Even with a combat system that good though, fights would still be shit if enemies don't telegraph their attacks properly.

>tfw I learn potions and elixirs are energy drinks in universe
imagine running around fighting giant rhinos while chugging monster

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>The game as a whole was too

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Wait. Aya's officially dead?

>imagine running around fighting giant rhinos while chugging monster

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>""Stealth"" game where you spend most of your time in forced action setpieces, following quest markers or watching cutscenes
>Good gameplay

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ITT we conflate flashy animation with good gameplay and bait 500 posts from spam posting pointless webms

i think the story implication is that they grab totally normal drinks and Noctis' magic enhances it to actually have restorative effects. same diff, though.

If 3rd Birthday isn't totally ignored should the franchise ever continue, Aya sacrificed herself to prevent some severe timeline fuckery, and is basically permanently erased with Eve being the only person that still remembers. So, yes - Tabata killed Aya.

OH MY GOD HE PRESSED A BUTTON HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?

t.

She got shot up at her wedding, Eve freaks out and ends up causing the creation of the monsters that plagued the game, and then possesses Aya's body.
Something with time travel shit too.
Game ends with Aya letting Eve to continue living her life in her body
They lost the rights to use the name then, didn't they?
Has anyone read the book?

FUCK YOU TABATA HOLY SHIT. WHO THE FUCK OK'D THAT SHIT. HE'S AS WORSE AS BABA HOLY FUCK.

>YFW FFVIIR is going to use XV's combat

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How does that Webm support your argument?

already debunked since KH2's battle planner is behind FF7R's combat.

Why are you still here after you got BTFO by ?
Leave, pleb.

Do you control 4 people at once in FFXV?

I didn't mind Tabata tragedy with Zack because Zack's fate was set in stone, and Type-0 made it clear from the beginning that nothing was going to end well probably. But the guy's got a real boner for pointless tragedy that happens because of miscommunication or arbitrary circumstances.

The worst part is that the reason Aya was shot by her SWAT team at her own wedding in the first place, which was the catalyst for the entire goddamn game, is effectively "I dunno". The entire plot basically exists to cause a convoluted time travel storyline with eldritch abominations and bodyjacking, and ultimately kill Aya in the end as yet another Tabata tragedy, and Tabata and his writers couldn't even be assed to come up with a justification as to why it started in the first place.

>her SWAT team
a SWAT team*, derp

y

Because it illustrates that DS3 is a bastardization of DaS and BB that isn't as good as either. Literal zoomercore.

>no more heroes
>S
Nice bait.

i don't have a reaction good enough for this much win

It illustrates nothing.

>pressing X multiple times
its either youre lying and you didnt even play the game or you didnt even pay attention to the tutorial because you dont even have to keep pressing a button to attack

dumbass

Nice try, DS3let.

I haven't even played it. Just saying, your webm shows nothing.

I knew Tabata loved tragedy, but goddamn I didn't know it ran that deep. Tragedy is fine, if it makes sense and the story shows why it is what it is. But if it's done just to say you're different? Fuck that.

Good fucking riddance.

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>Just keep holding down that O butto-

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user, it's a JRPG, if you attack something that has a drastically higher level than you, of course you're going to die.

it's doing against the coeurls specifically, who have an instant-kill counter attack. they're the favorite cherrypick.

>who have an instant-kill counter attack
Huh, I don't remember that. Maybe I didn't get far enough in the game for that.

Cope.

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Only one's coping is you, boyo

It's when they're sitting down, those lightning whiskers are charging. If you attack them when they're in that posture, they whip you for an instant kill. Bypasses the down state altogether. I think they're the only enemy in the entire game that does that, besides maybe some of the shit Geruda does in the XIV crossover fight.

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

FFXV is the type of game thats gets worse in retrospect after you finish it. Just pirate it.

They’re all worthless

In the earlier FF games do you get a game over if one character is KO? No you don't, so don't whine about it in FFXIIIII, please.

You guys should be worried about FFXVI. Since Taro is directing it.

yes in 13

Based.

I don't care to bash or defend FFXV because I found it to be okay but nothing groundbreaking.
I have an important announcement to make though:
Coeurl genocide best day of my life

Fuck i miss the bros already, despite how average the game was and how shitty it was of them to rush it after you board the train it was still enjoyable in some parts..

They really did nail the companion system, sad that the engine is now being used for some shitty open world game instead of polishing what xv started. This game would actually be fun if magic was like the classics instead of being dumb bombs.

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>mfw I made that

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That's cause the main theme was carried over from versus XIII. It's not really XVs theme per se just a ghostly remanent of a better game.

Combat system wasnt done right, could use tweaking with the damage numbers, its only a real challenge when you use the item that stops you from leveling up. Even nier automata had the same problem of getting too easy when you leveled up since there was no level scaling for enemies. Game doesnt even punish people that just spams warpstrike, it should deal reduced damage since you can technically just spam it turning the combat dull.

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>a ghostly remanent of a better game
>XIII
Was it really?

Yes.

from what I read, the lyrics to Somnus are referencing Bhunivelze, one of the gods in FFXIII lore and the final boss of LR, which it has no relation to anymore because they trimmed out the XIII shit after the XIII sequels sold like shit

It gets worse if you get Royal Edition or the season pass before all of that stuff. They give you Ragnarok from the beginning of the game, and even at level 1, a basic Warp Strike distance with Ragnarok was a 9999 every time.

It defaults to Attack which is all you need.

You’re probably one of the most retarded posters I’ve seen on Yea Forums

back then, it was a pay2win weapon since it was DLC

Pay2win on a fucking singleplayer game

The XIII sequels sold good, though.

I did wonder why one of the weapons was so much better

Versus XIII
youtu.be/vrEjbVxfsaE

>FFXV doesn't have a single good boss figh-

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Versus XIII is a different game than XIII

fuck you i liked it. The story was mostly garbage but the last 2-3 hours were absolutely kino.

Nothing worse than wasting Shimomura on a shit game.

>Mememomura

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>frogposter