Are we on the verge of another video game crash?

Zoomer detected.

Like the industry crash of the early 80s that almost killed video games.

What companies do you think would survive?

There's never going to be another large-scale crash I think. At least not in the near future
The most that would happen would be some big companies ducking out of the industry

What did they become more expensive or did they stop making new ones?

My gay dog's not even gay.

If you like games that make me want to kill you but you love my gay dog you're probably just making fun of me or something.

I'm glad we broke the story because it meant I could sleep and not deal with my own anger or frustration anymore.

Maybe that's how I feel about all of this.

I can't go on pretending to be an expert because apparently I'm not.

I hope one and all of this goes completely unnoticed, but this isn't about being nice. This is about you and me. You are not this game's audience. You're here for a different reason. The problem with the game isn't about playing it if that makes you happy. The game is about playing it without any feelings of anxiety or angst. You can't just go out there and have a nice time playing with your gay friend. You have to do the work, make a choice, and make it work on your own terms. Play it to feel happy, but make it work for you if it does.

>If so what do you think the aftermath will be like?
make it permanent this time

dilate

stop doomposting

I fucking hate this. I share the board with faggots who don't know what crash of 83 is and probably don't know what Odyssey is.

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No. There can never be another video-game crash like there was in the America in the 1980's. The industry isn't centralized under one company/console - there are plenty of ways to play video games on plenty of different systems, and plenty of different people making plenty of different games. Even if all AAA Western game companies like Activision-Blizzard or Bethesda went under, there are plenty of alternatives available.

video game profits dropped something like 90% and a buncha companies went out of business.

If we have a crash it'll just be some of the bigger companies dying.
We'll probably end up losing all the old IPs to mobile shit.
Games will still be made, Indie games will still be made, PC games will still be made even if the consoles die out completely, which I can't see happening. Budgets will be smaller but it's very arguable whether bigger budgets make better games.
Nintendo will be fine because of their quality first party stuff.

Also probably this. I'd expect to see more and more Chinese companies moving into the tech sector. I wouldn't even be surprised to see a legit Chinese console sooner or later.

GAAP will cease to be.

You really don't know this?

They made a bunch of shitty games that cost too much and basically people stopped buying them, leading to companies having massive stockpiles and going out of business.

>Too big to fail

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>I wouldn't even be surprised to see a legit Chinese console sooner or later.
Wonder if people outside China would buy something like a TencentBox if it was priced really cheaply

Plug n Plays exist outside China so I wouldn’t be surprised

People have asked this every year for the past 10 years
It's not going to happen.

In a way it's already crashed. The B tier title barely exists anymore because the only things selling are AAA blockbusters that are becoming longer to develop whilst still killing developers with crunch and unpaid OT.

The industries fascination with indies has almost died as well now that any cunt with a unity license can push out shovelware onto steam/consoles, diluting the market and making it almost impossible to curate.

The only forseeable future now is one where AAA development becomes so costly/time consuming that generations take decades to end and only the safest/design by comittee shit floats to the surface.

it won't happen because now games have digital platform
or at least it won't happen as way it happened during the 80s

>that feel when I have ET for the atari 2600 but no atari 2600 because people basically burned every console back then because there were so many
I WILL NEVER GET TO PLAY THIS

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if youre not a boomer youre a retarded history nerd 100 100

seriously though what was Atari thinking back then?
people won't buy your shit product but decides to churn more shit from their factories

At least the guy was simply asking politely instead of just making shit up and passing it off as facts. I'd rather 1000 people simply ask questions than constant shitposters.

The same thing any AAA company is thinking today. The only difference is they don't have a warehouse filled with unsold copies since everything's digital.

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Nobody really knew how to actually run a full-scale video game company at that point

they still dont really know but normies eat up any shit they get served so it doesnt matter anymore

Arguably, they still don't considering they seem so reliant on illegal practices like abusing internships without every actually wanting them on contract or unpaid overtime, crunch throughout an entire project, etc.

1. no, unless you mean traditional offline singleplayer games, then yes
2. mass incel suicide
i'm willing to sacrifice good videogames for the 2nd to happen

I'm no expert on economics and business but they could have just not make too many cartridges when people are buying less of their products

>Are we on the verge of another video game crash?
Ha ha no.
The average video game player is a gullible retard with no sense of taste who will buy whatever is marketed to him.
So long as people with low standards have money, there will never be a crash, because there will always be enough whales to buy whatever you market.
Have you ever seen advertisements for a thing that is "Fun with friends" or "Lets me express myself" or is "For the players" or "Just feels right", showing plenty of cutscenes and Press X to Awesome, but which says literally fucking nothing about the gameplay?
Yeah, those ads exist because they work. People don't watch ads to get an idea of what the game's like, they watch ads to have emotions directly implanted into their skull, bypassing the rational parts of the brain completely. That is the vast majority of consumers.
So long as people will buy a videogame because you can sit on a couch with your best buds, order some pizza, laugh about old times and boot up GAME™, and it just doesn't occur to them that GAME™ is irrelevant in this scenario, then any old turd can be farted out and become a best-seller.
And if any old turd can become a best-seller, games will not crash.

I mean look.
You have people on this very board who think Dark Souls, Fallout: New Vegas, Twilight Princess, XCOM: Enemy Unknown, Bioshock, Civilization 5, GTA 5, and Persona 4 were good.
That's how low people's standards are.
Gaming will not crash unless the global population does.

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>Bring up gamergate at all
>Gamergate = Gaming industry crash.

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This guy did more negative than positive.

unironically this

Can you talk about what games you think are good? That's always fun.

Are we on the verge of another video game crash?
Maybe, I doubt it personally. But I think we could use it. Not as a spite towards the gamers them selfs but as a reminder to the industry
This industry of video games. The relationship between the Gamers and the Developers [and their filthy publisher masters that they are shackled to]
This industry is disease, rotten to the core. It needs to be burned to the fucking ground.

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oddly enough its faggots like you that big-budget trash games are marketed to, you could never enjoy a proper videogame like bullet witch, nanobreaker, ninety nine nights, spy fiction, EDF, runabout, ray tracers etc... because you're so busy fucking fetishizing 'quality' while pretending you're not a braindead sheep whose idea of quality has been imposed on him

Here you go
G4TV Icons episode about the crash
Enjoy
youtu.be/RuHbRPoOEEA

To whom?

every game that was finished on release for example. pathetic attempt faggot

Overconfidence and incompetence mixed with simple math.
>This IP costed us X
>Therefore we need to sell Y copies to make a profit
>Ergo, we produce Y to cover X
In a way, that's what happened to TellTale. They bet beavily on licensing known IP's, which likely cost a fortune to get the rights to, thinking both TellTale and the IP were valuable enough on their own to make a profit.

I wish but no. "Gamers" have lost all taste.

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>its faggots like you that big-budget trash games are marketed to
thats probably the most stupid thing said in this thread. people like him dont buy these games, what a waste of money to market to them. thats the whole point of his argument

The zoomers will either exit their homes, or exit life.
The boomers will continue playing the same games they've been playing for 10 years or exit life.

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Sure!
Spacechem
Hollow Knight
OpenXcom
Huniepop (though mostly this is for irony)
Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
Factorio would be if the graphics were more focused on giving the player information than on fitting an aesthetic. Something with glyphs and ascii symbols, or simple distinct shapes with bold contrasting colors.
Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup would be if the fanbase didn't have literal jewish propagandists and the identity politics thought policing crowd in it

*tips fedora*
Such a pleasure to meet another gentleman and video games connoisseur, just like me self.

I'm guessing mostly smaller companies that aren't spending half a billion fucking dollars on making games. Indies and smaller devs will start making larger profits as bigger companies collapse under the weight of their own absurd standards of growth.

I literally laughed to how retarded you are

no

Micro crashes happen when customers lose confidence with what's on offer.
That's when a trend changes.
Fortnite and the BR genre has its time in the spotlight for now but that'll change soon enough.

>If so what do you think the aftermath will be like?
Gaming companies won't be able to afford being so overbloated that they hire dozens of trannies to handle "social media affairs", which will cause them to 40% themselves, making Yea Forums a better place.

I don't fixate on quality.
NOBODY fixates on quality. That's my point.

The first and only video game crash happened because the market was undiversified and tiny enough that a few high profile flops tanked could send everything crashing down. You might see genres fall out of favor due to dwindling sales. You might even see a AAA publisher crash and burn sometime soon... but there's not gonna be a crash. The field is just too wide nowadays.

>This guy did more negative than positive.
This.
Thanks to this guy, Trump is probably going to win a second term, because of his incel alt-right "based"ness.

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>Are we on the verge of another video game crash?
Yes. Every new game release is starting to feel like a joke.
>If so what do you think the aftermath will be like?
Well, the West fucked things up last time, and Japan came along and saved things. Now the West is fucking things up again, and Japan has lost it's ambition. So... Maybe China will be the new savior? God help us.

I doubt it but I wouldnt mind it happening

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Also, I've heard that Touhou Project and Disgaea are autism, and therefore good, but I haven't played either. Maybe I should, because I really fuckin love me some autism games.
If normalfags are the cancer, then autism is the panacea.

>Are we on the verge of another video game crash?
No, because the PC market is very open, with many different developers and publishers and niches, and no one big player having problems will destroy the whole market.
And on the console side, something would have to hit both Sony and Microsoft, who get their money from very different parts of the world and industries, and hit them so hard that nobody even wants to replace them. What would that even be?

The "video game crash" we are heading into is just EA collapsing because they lose their lootboxes, sports licenses, and SW license.

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So, sports games and AAA shit?

>verge
We've been in the collapse for two years now. Even EA has finally realized it after all of their tent pole franchises besides FIFA have collapsed in the last year. The collapse is at its peak right now.

B-but [insert youtube gamer shill] said pirating is immoral! W-we need to set an example and show the devs and publishers who spit in our face that we're the good guys

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what?

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... Isn't this the point where someone calls my favourite games shit?
Does that not happen any more?
Come on, say "micromanagement"!
Lame.

We need a crash, but more specifically on video game journalism/journalists. They single handidly make the industry much worse
>Because they get free shit and invites to press events, any AAA game is guaranteed to get at least a 7/10. The game has to be a massive undeniable flop to get anything lower
>Journalists personally attack devs over their artistic choices, whether it be skimpily dressed women, or a lack of minorities, scoring the game lower just because it goes against their personal politics
>The opposite is just as true, literal non games like "Gone Home" received universal praise from journalists and won several video game awards despite being nothing but a walking simulator that can be beaten in under a minute
>Like guard dogs journalists defend scummy practices and call gamers entitled bigots for expressing their concerns or outrage over certain issues.
>Of course people who paid to go to blizzcon, who are primarily pc gamers, would get pissed off about the new diablo project announced being a shitty mobile game, that's not even fucking made by blizzard. Despite this being a very reasonable thing to be upset over, journalists defended Blizzard and called red shirt guy a whiny manbaby for asking if it was some kind of joke
>Video game journalists are very open about the fact that they don't actually like video games, or even play them in their spare time
I could go on. Journalists encourage the shitty industry as it is right now, focused entirely on politics and not about the quality of games at all

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It is not possible for the video game industry to "crash" like it did in the 80s. To do so would imply that there is no longer a market for video games at all, or that nobody is capable of making them. Given everyone and their grandma is an indie developer, there's a million and one ways to buy games through digital media, it's heavily integrated into social media culture, games and gamers are more diverse than they've ever been, there is crowd funding, and the gaming industry has more money in it than movies, neither of those things will ever happen.

They've been slowly dying off.
Gawker is kill
Vice is now kill.
Buzzfeed is slowly kill.

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So absolute hipster tier. Not like some of those are bad, but when that's all you mention, and given your attitude, then whatever.

You do know those guys are backed with financial investments by deep state think tanks and get funding as """counter-espionage""" intelligence projects (obviously to stop the russian bots), right?
They have the bankers' hands so far up their asses that when they talk about muh freedom from consequences you can see a gnarled yellowed nail holding a government bond.
Money is irrelevant if you're backed by people who control money.

Journalism as a whole needs a crash. Even normalfags are pretty sick of how the media distorts things and spins narratives right now.

If we count the year before the election, we're going on literally 4 years of the media constantly crying about Russia, when the most interference they can prove is that Russians were shitposting Trump memes on facebook

People stopped buying them because they were shit. Et was an especially major part

Hipster doesn't mean good if it's the type of stuff anyone at a local starbucks can pick up and play for 30 minutes without really thinking about it.
Undiscovered does not mean good. For that matter, widespread interest doesn't mean bad, so long as that widespread interest doesn't come from the ADHD retard "Videogames shouldn't be WORK" demographic.

There is a word for what I like, that word is "Autism".

Not to turn this into a /pol/ lite thread but realistically both sides are at fault for the public's perception of the media being more of distrust. There's still good journalists out there but then you get the fake news meme thrown around at anything you might personally disagree with, even if it's a fact, which just makes things even worse.

And before you ask
>If you're Autistic, why don't you like {thing you listed as bad}
Because you're not actually making decisions. You're either doing the exact same tactics that won you the last combat and the combat before that, you're mentally on hibernate as you walk to the next situation requiring your conscious attention, or you're waiting between 200 milliseconds to a literal goddamn second for your animation to finish so you can stop watching a movie and resume playing the game.
I can tolerate a lot in the pursuit of autism, but I don't boot up a game to watch a cutscene and have the game win itself.

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The only solution is that journalists need to be held responsible, both on the left and the right. If they post fake news there needs to be consequences for it.
Far too often the media puts out blatant lies that millions of people take as the truth, and when it's proven wrong they quietly put out a revision article that only a few thousand people see.
Reminds me of that time Brumpf met with the prime minister of Japan and followed the ministers lead and dumped the fish food into the koi pond. Every single journalist had access to the full video, and the minister dumped the fish literally seconds before Trump did, yet they printed blatant lies saying that he made a mockery of the ceremony and dumped the fish food.
None of those reporters were fired, even though they clearly proved they have no journalistic integrity

>forgetting one of the biggest ones, producers obsessed with metacritic scores

lmao

I hope that microtransactions get outlawed in the US so it sends the profits of every company plummeting.

I want to see Acti/EA/Ubi/everyone burn for this shit.

The absolute shitstorm of watching them all scramble for money would be the best thing to happen to this industry in years.

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Stay mad, loser.

The media hasn't helped itself at all. The no-source circlejerk continues. One paper references another which references another and the original source was fake news. Now every site on the internet is all referencing each other for the same fake news story. Modern journalists don't check sources and don't do investigative journalism. They just link to other shitty articles who also don't check sources or do investigative journalism. Modern news is all clickbait fake bullshit. The internet news is a closed loop of links and none of it links back to reality and no one in the link loop checks for a source validity.

>You have people on this very board who think Dark Souls, Fallout: New Vegas, Twilight Princess, XCOM: Enemy Unknown, Bioshock, Civilization 5, GTA 5, and Persona 4 were good.
They were.

>If they post fake news there needs to be consequences for it.
The problems with the media go beyond merely "reporting things that aren't true."
In crafting a narrative that doesn't even remotely reflect reality, you're forgetting:
>what they choose to report on, and what they choose to blatantly ignore
>omitting key details that completely changes the narrative
>including irrelevant information to make an event appear more common than it is
And that's not even getting into the language they use themselves. I don't know what the media is like in your country, but I have never heard a right-wing person ever referred to as anything less than "far right", and a left-wing person has never been called "far left".

It seems like there's no real solution other than the media to be heavily regulated, and to be fined if they leave out key details in a report, or refuse to report on things they do not agree with. Enough fines and they may be investigated and lose their credentials.
Though this would never happen without them screaming how it's an attack on the press

True. During the Obama days I also remember all sort of stories that tried to spin every single move of his as being un-American or something. It's just constant propaganda from all sides. Then you have those clear violations like having a reporting show technically labeled as entertainment, therefore they're allowed to lie while clearly trying to manipulate people.
This as well. Before the internet I think one of the biggest issues in media were the 24h news channels. They had to find all sort of ways to fill in the dead air, meaning more sensationalist news that no one should care about. But the internet pretty much killed it. What's the internet if not 24/7/365 information with no end in sight?

It won't crash again, sadly.
Games are making more money than ever before

There's no such thing as too big to fail, sweety.

And then they try to pass the blame when the story gets proven to be false
>Hey I didn't know, after all I was simply reporting on this other site reporting on it!

The obvious issue with regulating the media is that it's not a far step into only being allowed to report on what the government allows. Plus there's always the concern that journalists' sources should be protected at all costs, specially if they wish to remain private.

this isnt going to be a video game crash

its a full on world economy crash

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Some things should almost not even be reported on if the only source is an anonymous one and the story seems like bullshit. Like the Trump pee tape reports. How the fuck was that even reported on when it would be obvious to anyone that it's fake as shit?

>too big to fail.
t. stock broker in 2007

Because it's funny, so it generates money.

Nothing but shovelware, and vidya games still costed $60 which back then was like a million dollars. People could only afford a couple of games and when you get a pile of garbage that lasts 5 minutes and there's no alternative, you stop buying. Nobody was buying, so there was a crash.

>It seems like there's no real solution other than the media to be heavily regulated,
This has never backfired before.

I kek'd

There will never be another video game crash. Games are way too decentralized now.

>costed

NES games were more expensive than Atari games

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If so, the US will enter a recession. This is like asking if there will be a film crash

Also the crash of 83 only affected the North American market. Computer and arcade games were still selling strong in Europe and Japan respectively.

>if the only source is an anonymous
There's a difference between an anonymous source, which isn't valid, and a source that doesn't want to be identified. A jornalist's job when dealing with people like whistleblowers is to personally check the validity of the source but then keep that information for themselves as a way to protect them. If jornalists were to throw the whistleblower under the bus to cover themselves all that leads is people refusing to expose anything in fear of the consequences that the rich and mighty will do.
Good jornalists still do that. Even if I think that Jason guy from Kotaku is a retard, he actually does his research for in-depth pieces like the Anthem one, checking their validity while making sure the employees he talked to were safe in anonymity.

A Hollywood crash is a lot more likely than a gaming one.

thats pretty spot on.

At least Nintendo had quality on their side. Which is why they managed to completely take over the western market after Atari fucked everything up. Arguably, Nintendo jumping in to save the vidya market in the west was what led to Japan exporting so much of their media in the 90's.

please dont say that

because all it means is the state pays to prop it up when it fails

and i dont want to normalise my tax money propping up ea

>Computer and arcade games were still selling strong in Europe
Were they? As far as I'm aware, Europe never got too much of a foothold in the gaming market, outside of Ubisoft.

You already do, mate. EA and Activision just recently were in the news for using a tax haven to avoid paying taxes while also getting a tax refund in the hundreds of millions. So even if you never bought a EA or Activision game, congratulations, your taxpayer money went in their pockets.

I think that he meant that game market is so big in terms of quantity of games and developers/publishers, so even if EA and ActiBlizz will go bankrupt, another publisher will take his place.

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A meteorite strike is likelier than either

fucking disgusting now i want them to die

There was no "video game crash". There was a "video game console crash". Arcades games did fine. Computer games did fine. The reason that consoles crashed is that the pre-NES era consoles were bullshit crap that wasn't actually fun at all. People went out to buy Pac-Man for the Atari figuring it would be the same as it was in the arcade, and they had to play slow shitty dog vomit. After that, people perceived TV video games as a crummy fad. The average person didn't understand silicon scaling. They didn't understand that actual Pac-Man on the TV would be attainable in a few years, they thought it was all going to be Atari 2600 forever.

The Atari crash happened because Atari's product was bad. Not bad as in "overrated pretentious SJW soiboi casual console babby garbage" but bad as in "only literal 5 year olds could get lasting entertainment out of it".

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i havent see publishers appear in decades

but the survivors keep slowly disapearing

the whole state is a bubble

you cant buy a car parking spot for less the a million dollars

and the jobs dont scale with the expense of living there

They exist but they have difficulty in reaching EA size because obviously, companies like EA would rather buy out any new competitors when they're young than deal with them later on.
But there's publishers like Devolver who found their niche and seem to strive from it.

No. But we have such a huge noticeable decline in quality in all sorts of media such as literature, journalism, video games, television, movies and the internet itself. Makes me wonder where the decline started and what caused it. Or if I've just been oblivious in all my 24 years that everything is shit and I should just go back to an old childhood hobby like fishing and move on from these hobbies.

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If it did crash, Nintendo would survive. Microsoft,s gaming division
would not. Dont know about sony.

eurojank will flood to market because game devs will be able to apply for government aid like artists can.

it only affected the US market as I recall. Definitely couldn't happen now since videogames are a much more consolidated market, and an established concept in our culture, that people couldn't look at a shitty game being released and suddenly start panicking with "wtf maybe videogames were a mistake" and stop buying them.

>Or if I've just been oblivious
Kind of. When we look back in history, only some notable examples stood the test of time but it's not like nothing else was being produced. These notable examples might not even have been popular until much later on, maybe even after the author/artist died in poverty. So something else was the money maker while the actual art was just getting by.

This is the typical SJW pro-gaming "journalism" anti-gamers drone.

A kid who doesn't know jackshit about video game history...

I fucking hope so, I would finally have a chance to work on my backlog.

I never saw an advertisement for Bioshock, and I didn't play it with any friends, same with Dark Souls. I play video games completely alone, without any social experience attached to it. I think you're right about the average consumer, but attributing honest differences in taste to corporate manipulation is too broad.

Huwei is practically banned in Western markets. I don't see Western consumers ok with PLA's malware.

Just wondering, how have the stock of actiblizzard and EA recovered after all those threads saying they were finished a while back??

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they're still strong because despite everything they go mobile, and mobile brings cash

I used to think the people who prayed for another crash were cunts. Now I'm starting to think we need one to kick all the fucking morons out of the industry that don't actually like video games

I wonder the exact amount of years Yea Forums has been begging for the next vidya crash.

Video games are for fascists anyway.

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The industry can't "crash" because it's an actual industry now. The original crash was because 85% of all games were made or published by Atari, and the rest was literal 2 weeks of dev time garbage just made to shovel shit out in the hopes someone is stupid enough to buy it. Atari became retarded and people didn't want to spend $30 to play games about literal fucking dogfood and there went your North American industry.
The only thing that can crash now are companies, and if you're looking for two of those I'd go with Valve and EA. Valve is basically an exact copy of what Atari was, right down to the 0 quality control, and if Epics store buys enough exclusives or big enough ones like GTA they'll start crumbling since, just like Atari, all the devs left and they make nothing anymore aside from throwing money away on shit like Linux gaming and VR.
EA because the economic model of every single one of their games is based on lootbox like transactions and those are rapidly being shelved due to the government getting pissy about it and they're set up for a massive drop when that does happen just like all the gacha shit devs who take the money and never are heard from again.

You're just a hipster, kid.

>Are we on the verge of another video game crash?
No, stupid, the industry keeps hitting record finances every year. What kind of tard bubble do you live in?