How will Assassins Creed work in a Viking setting? They didn’t even have buildings other than thatched roof huts. Will there be a rape feature?
How will Assassins Creed work in a Viking setting? They didn’t even have buildings other than thatched roof huts...
We just got God of War. Fuck Ubisoft
>Viking setting.
>The place that apparently had Shield Maidens.
You know damn well why they're making Viking Creed.
Assassins Creed Vikings is going to be like playing a stealth archer in Skyrim.
God of War is stuck at 30fps for eternity. I prefer action games to feel fluid.
I can't take this franchise seriouly anymore.
Assasins creed 1-3 + unity and maybe japan would have suficed.
>maybe japan
Fuck off
Just you wait for them to cram muslims on every single village because they found those muslim rings that were obviously just pillaged treasure.
>lame as fuck vikings
>not glorious medieval
>4 player coop AssCreed
Seen it before, didn't end well.
Or part of payment for slaves. Vikings would capture people; mainly slavs which is where the word slave comes from, and sell them to Arabs. Also there were some viking swords found in Iran I believe
>killing muslims and DEUS VULT'ng
Cucksoft would never do that. A shame, I'm a sucker for medieval, be it realistic or fantasy I easily gobble anything with some good n' old medieval setting.
You won't be an Assassin, it will play like Odyssey.
>and maybe japan
fuck off weeb
This game will almost certainly be about the Great Heathen Army that rampaged in England in the 800s or the Viking conversion to Christianity. I can't really think of any other standout moments in the Viking period.
Closer look. It might seem like it, but Origins and Odyssey still really on actual events to give context to their time periods, even though they have more fantasy mixed in.
Viking hordes lasted for centuries after civilization started. They were to Europe what Mongolians were to China. They were also killed on sight.
Or just plain old trade.
AC hasn't been about climbing/parkour for a few instalments now. It's basically a historical RPG series now.
Wasn't the first one set during the crusades?
samefag
japan would have seriously worked, before the franchise turned to this new cornball fantasy shit.
>actual events
>7 foot tall 300 pound butch lesbians wielding warhammers are literally EVERYWHERE
now im no historical experet but it seems oddity
It was from the time AssCreed was still about assassins, instead of roleplaying in whatever new setting you're in.
Keep crying because you will never get your Jap Creed. Go play Sekiro or wait for Ghost of Tsushimi or whatever its called
Bullet sponge enemies, braindead combat, clusterfuck plot, 90 hours of shitty and repetitive side content. Classic ubishit game as always.
This, there's no point to asking how AC would work in X setting anymore. They opened it up too much.
Already played Sushiro, I need more japkino, and waiting for Nioh 2 is hell.
Ghost of tsushimi is just a linear sony movie, I don't like those.
i literally don't care, but a japan setting would have worked great back when assassins creed wasn't as cheesey as it is now
>God of War is stuck at 30fps for eternity
Are you talking about the new GoW for PS4? Because wih performance setting the framerate is 60 for 1080p, even if it's not compeltely stable, still never drop under 55. This is literally not stuck at 30 fps.
Also if PS5 will be retrocopmpatible, sure as hell that it will run GoW at 60 fps 4k with no problems.
>It's basically a historical RPG series now
And that's a good thing.
Desmond and futuristic shit was the worst part of the games. Glad they shoved the boring walking simulator Desmond sequences down the toilet.
Ubishit. How many of these games are there now? Like 30?
>I don't care
>but lemme post what's on my mind
Oh yeah, Nioh too. You could play that shit aswell. A sequel is coming out for that, I think.
Tbh Origins combat was pretty good. Haven't played Odyssey but the Viking one will probably have the Shield back which is cool.
Honestly better than 90% of WRPGs if you consider it as one now.
>God of War is stuck at 30fps for eternity
I'm mostly a PCfag and at least on a pro the newest runs pretty well.
You seem incredibly mad about something.
>snownigger setting
Not that user but I don't really see how what you are saying has anything to do with that he said. He talked about gameplay and not the modern day shit. I mean, the modern day shit is still in there and it's even worse than it was before.
It will be set in pre Norman England
Is that what your internet instincts are telling you?
Only the fact that the game physics are not tied to the framerate already implies that at some point in the future the game will be playable at 60. If not in new releases in next gen consoles, at least on emulation a few decades from now on.
The true tragedies are games like Demon Souls and maybe even Bloodborne, made by an incompetent dev that ties the game physics to it's framerate, so don't matter how strong the hardware is, it will always run at 30fps. Demon Souls can be emulated at 8K, but it shall never reach 60fps, and whenever you force it, you only double the game speed.
Assassins Creed as a series ended at III imo. 4 was stellar, but at this point they're better off laying the series to rest.
Absolute retard
It makes money and has an audience, so why would they do that?
Nah, it was born at 4
No, it's more your projecting and usage of insults for no reason.
>viking
The have one story buildings wtf. Why don't they do one set in a truly interesting and untouched period rather than retread the most overused settings?
>but lemme post what's on my mind
this is a website where people have discussions you insufferable fuck wit lol, i mean its more than worth pointing out that you have to be an absolute dip shit to think japan would have been a bad setting for asscreed in the past
and hey, go figure, you're a total shit for brains
There's pretty 0 actual viking games that are built around the actual setting and not just popular culture
Ok.
The first one had actual nuance and the Templars were on both christian and muslim sides manipulating both sides
Odyssey is perhaps the best GAME in the franchise, but it's missing a lot of what made an AC game...well, an AC game. It has the parkour elements, but they're braindead (you can literally climb on anything, no longer requiring the need to find a 'path' to climb like a mini-puzzle) and the scripted cinematic parkour events (like in 3/4/Unity when you cut a rope tied to a weight and go flying in the air) are extremely rare. The stealth is really lame, too, since the enemy placement is designed in a way that you can stealth-kill maybe 3 or 4 guys around the perimeter of a complex before needing to fight a group of enemies. I also am not a big fan of the way every single point of interest - whether it's a library, vault, or someone's house - is a restricted zone.
Still, I feel the (decent) combat and world make up for it. The exploration is really well-done, and missions no longer acting as a giant marker showing you where to go and, instead, requiring you to actually use your head to find the locations is refreshing. I love the myriad of armor and weapons you can find, and I like the Cultist/Mercenary systems, even if they blatantly ripped off the Middle Earth games. Sailing is still fun, and the vistas are gorgeous.
It will be a fantasy game. Instead of going for historical accuracy it will make vast cities with viking inspired architecture. Either that or it will be focused on viking boats and raiding Christian cities
So you do care. Anyways, you guys got your oriental creed: Assassins Creed: China. That doesn't count?
I wonder if Ubisoft will ever put out a real video game again. Rayman Legends may be their swan song.
What does that matter, the AC games aren't even that historical anymore, they're essentially just fantasy settings of real life periods. You know they're going to throw the most retarded shit, I just wish they would do a non cliched historical setting.
It's more akin to a Light RPG rather than the rest, which are action adventure. The build I had could do stealth pretty well, but it's impossible to avoid fighting in this game. The guy who made 4 and Origins is making Kingdom. So I expect great things
I wouldn't even mind
It does. I can't think of single viking game at all
Not that user, but that's like a mobile game right?
An actual mainline game in china would be fantastic. Perfect architecture, tons of potential areas, tons of crazy wild historical periods. Kung fu shit
cant tell if troll or just retarded
i dont care what assassins creed does now that it's pretty much shit. but japan creed would have worked fine.
Bloodborne probably could run at 60 since it's the same engine as DaS3 which is more competently made.
>Odyssey is perhaps the best GAME in the franchise
Right, right.
Mount and Blade
There's plenty of books, television shows and movies that cover vikings. Its the same as shogunate japan, its been tread over so many times.
I will get this only if they return to classic Asscreed formula, none of this leveling bullshit, or at least make it more stealth orientated if not. I really don't like this new style they are doing but they change the Asscreed style every 2-3 games so who cares.
stop replying to him
MAKE*clap* A *clap* ASSASSINS *clap* CREED *clap* GAME *clap* SET *clap* IN *clap* FEUDAL *clap* JAPAN *clap*
Hellblade, I guess? The Banner Saga games.
Retarded argument. If we're including all forms of media, medieval Europe should never be touched again.
Rune
I played AC at the first one when it was new and avoided the franchise entirely until a friend gifted me Origins and I have to say I'm kind of impressed at it still. No other game gave me such a sense of immersion as that one (Hud on minimal). Specially after I got the 'all enemies on the offensive' mode thing.
I just wish it had a traditional health bar that doesn't regenerate and you had to use potions, food, etc. Hunting just for upgrades isn't as cool as for food to keep yourself alive or your health up. They could certainly benefit from a light cooking system even and a more survival approach to the games with what they're going and I'm 100% into that.
If you haven't yet, play 2, compared to the first it's much better.
As usual retards don't know that Vikings conquered half of England at some point and held for a century
AC isn't about parkour and being in a stealthy spot and pouncing on people below, or using crowd stealth. Its about loot collecting, damage number increasing, big map and a boat now. Also tons of padding/filler
In what way? Go over some improvements.
Should be about Vikings getting into Byzantine territory through shenanigans, becoming mercenaries and shit.
First act is in the snow, later on you'll get to remade Constantinople
>dude post actual facts
>call him retard because you have no arguments
I know who is the retard here.
I'm saying choose something else than the most trite viking shit.
Skyrim
We already got Sekiro
I wand ancient Babylon/Sumeria AC with hanging gardens, huge bearded giants and the Annunaki
Well what setting would you prefer then, user?
Not that user. The gameplay is far less clunky and it has a more conventional story. Honestly though that's it. It doesn't capture the atmosphere that AC1 has where you feel like you're playing an assassin. The writing is also significantly dumbed down so don't expect the writing that AC1 has.
Nu Assassin's Creed are Witcher 3 rip offs with monsters and all
Ubisoft is creatively bankrupt
Ancestor's legacy, rune, mountain blade, mordhau, for honor, total war kingdoms, too human, god of war, banner saga, skyrim, vikings, viking.
That's a mix of actual historical vikangz and made up shit that's clearly inspired by them.
I never had any problems with the gameplay or story, desu.
It runs at 30 fps on pro
Odyssey was not made by the same who made Origins, who are also making the viking game, so, hopefully, they will have listened to all the complaints about Odyssey and avoid going full retard and stay more grounded like Origins did.
It's less clunky for sure. I never had an problems with the story either, honestly i kind of prefer AC1's story more than 2 now. But its a very satisfying game and running around renaissance italy is very fun.
People always meme on about how ACII is so great, but I never was compelled to play after the first one. I guess someday it'll be nice to delve further into the roots of the series.
>it was like valhalla n' shieeet
2 is great, Brotherhood is a solid expansion pack, drop the series after that.
What is the modern day plot building up to now that Juno got killed in a comic?
I think one set during the Great game would be cool. English and russian political intrigue mixed with the ancient cities of the middle east and india offers a lot. Also what this user said
>even Bloodborne
For what i know, BB gameplay is not tied to framerate.
We even could ahve got a real 60 fps BB on the Pro, if only From didn't refuse to make the Pro patch afterSony asked them to do it like all other exclusive's developers.
As usual, it's all From lazyness fault.
The only monsters are endgame bosses like the Minotaur, they are not running around the open world.
Literally nothing.
You play as an insufferable millennial you'd find in starbucks along with another insufferable hipster and your objective is retreaving pieces of eden before the templars do, all while making ultra ironic remarks about how "badass" your parkour skills are.
>dude post actual facts
>you call him retard
>people explayin that youre the retard here
>you state some false shit to show how much retard you are
Imrpessive.
pretty much this, you feel like a big warrior instead of an assassin, it feels weird to have super big powerful moves when you should be sneaking around trying to gain any advantage be it underhandedly or not.
You know these are some good ideas. I misjudged you user, I thought you were retarded.
Make one set in the Cold War.
Make it like MGSV, except you go around killing historical figures.
BB still has trouble being at 30 fps on the Pro depending on the number of particles and shit.
Loading times are also still long as fuck so I can't even imagine what it is to play it on the regular PS4
I dream of a world where the entire franchise was Assassin's Creed, Assassin's Creed II, and a third game set during the French Revolution. Third game is the modern Assassins escaping and regrouping, Desmond goes back to the French Revolution to track down an Apple, game ends with him using the Apple to take down Abstergo.
Is that so hard, Ubi? Is it so hard to not destroy something that I hold dearly?
Yes if you activelly put it at 30fps lock like an utter raging retard
>BB still has trouble being at 30 fps on the Pro
Because it was not patched to use all the Pro full power, it was left dying with only the base enanching option of the Pro software, so it's basically nothing for a game like BB.
If they actually patched the game how it needed, it could have been using all the Pro power and being optimized for it's hardware could ahve meant a 60 FPS 1080 BB.
Fuck lazy hacks at From.
Even the original plans were far more complicated.
Desmond would go through 6 ancestors to become the "ultimate assassin", then in the vault from AC3, you'd find a Piece of Eden that would let Desmond travel through time, and with it, you'd spend several games jumping from one period to the next, changing history to save the world.
still better than what we got
>a few decades
you wish, snoy
Go back to r/assassinscreed
No it fucking isn't, it has the worst gameplay of the franchise and worst parkour.
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I've gone back to playing Origins and i'm surprised at how much smoother and more responsive it is.
The parkour of Odyssey feels archaic.
It's absurd how they haven't made one in china yet, there are so many obvious choices. There was literal peasant revolt from man who claimed he was Jesus and he actually created a heavenly kingdom en.wikipedia.org
They could easily write it as he found pieces of eden and turned on his former templar buddies, his literal origin story is god came to him and gave him a magic seal and demon sword.
That's lame, but not as lame as what we got. The series went completely off the rails after Ass Creed 3 shit the bed and completely fucked the modern day storyline.
Hell I would've been happy if we stuck with Desmond as he experienced Connor, Edward, Arno, whoever the fuck. It at least would've been more consistent. Shit hit the fan when they threw the rules out the window and made anything possible, that's what led to the crazy magic abilities and RPG elements and everything.
Honestly if you take out the stupid co-op mechanics, Unity has the best gameplay in the series. It's the logical conclusion to the three pillars (fighting, social stealth, freerunning) that the first game established and the second game continued to develop.
The problem with Unity is that the gameplay was overly convoluted.
Sure, if you took the time to master the parkour you can do pretty stuff like this.
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But even then, most people struggled because you need to know where to point the camera, when to use the go up or down buttons and when only move the joystick, and knowing that by pure instinct is hard because it takes far more dedication than most people are willing to put in AC.
1800's to 1930's shanghai would be great too. The US, France, UK and china all owned their own parts of the city. Actual secret societies were active in it and of course there are the triads.
en.wikipedia.org
Tons of russian immigrants as well so that could also fit in with the whole great game aspect.
Ubisoft are decent with their historical titles. There'll probably be a muslim trader or two, and possibly en.wikipedia.org
WE WUZ VIKANGZ
I just hope there's actual Assassins, the whole "proto Assassin" and "proto Templar" shit has already gotten old.
Forgot pic
China would be great but i'd rather have like, Hindu/Buddhist kingdoms in India, Thailand, Cambodia, etc. Their archtecture is kino and they are pretty underused
Them and Aztec's (see pic) would be my dream asscreed settings.
Also fuck the mods for killing that aztec dark souls thread, why the hell was that killed but this thread kept up/?
This, people meme them out to be SJW-fests and super inaccurate but the cities/general society shown is generally super on point, only stuff that's pretty off is specific historical figures/events to fit the assassin/templar conflict, and even then it's usually only as off as most historical media
Does anyone actually give a shit about assasins creed
>sufficed
fuck off, there's thousands of years of human civilization just before gunpowder became widespread alone yet 99% of historical vidya only uses eurpopean and jap shit.
>5000 years of civilization in the fertile crescent, from Bronze age Mesopotamian Sumer, Babylon, etc & Old Kingdom Egypt, to Iron Age Assyria, the Persian Empire and Poltemic Egypt, and various Medieval Islamic Caliphates
>4000 years of civilization in India/South Asia, from the Indus River Valley civilization, to the Vedic which gave birth to the Sanskirt epic poems, to India's contact with the Western world in the classic period and the Maurya Empire, various other empires and then under Medivial Islamic rule such as by the Mughals
>3500 years of civilization in China/East Asia, from China's Shang Dyasty , Unification under the Ming, the 3 kingdoms, subsequent reunification and splits, ancient and medieval korea, etc
>3000 years of civilization in Mesoamerica from the early Olmec cities and the spread of civilization in the preclassic, the prominence of Teotihuacan during the classic during the alongside the Golden age of the Maya and the Zapotec, the rise of the Mixtec over the Zapotec and the the Toltec succeeding Teotihuacan in the early postclassic, to the rise of the Aztec empire in the Toltec's stead and their rival with the Purepecha empire in the late Postclassic
>1500 years of civilization in the Andes, from Moche city-states, the Nazca, etc during the early intermediate, the Tiwanku and Wari Empires during the Middle Horizon, the Sican culture & Chimu kingdom in the late intermediate, and the utter domination by the Inca empire during the late Horizon
>1500 years of civilization in Southeast asia due to it spreading there from India, such as the Khmer and Suhkothai
>1500 years of civilization in West Africa due to it spreading there from the fertile crescent, such as the Malil, Songhai, etc
It sucks since its clear the suits in Ubisoft only want to choose the settings that mouthbreathers would be interested in.
Eh, it's not like Ressisiance Italty, the French Revolution, etc are super normie tier settings.
Vikings is the only setting they've done that REALLY feels like they've unjustiably gone with a normie setting. Hopefully after it, and the inevitable rome and japan they start to branch out with more Precolumbian, Middle Eastern, and Asian settings.
at the time it was much better than 1 but by now it's pretty dated.
>T. Weeb incel
everbody knows the greeks, frence revolution is pretty well known and common
>First game was literally a medieval setting and about the crusades
>"Hur dur they'd never do that"
Everybody "knows" the french revolution, but how many mainstream vidya, movies, etc take place during it?
>ugh why do these japanese/western studios only do japanese/western themes
Imagine AC Japan, being a fucking shotgun ninja assassin with Sai knives, nun-chakos, katanas and throwing stars.
>Hur dur vikings is the only normie setting
>Not Egypt, France, the Crusades, Italy, Greece, FUCKING PIRATES, etc.
You are retarded.
>unironically wanting sais and nunchucks.
>Calls nunchucks nun-chakos.
Imagine just advertising how much of a virgin mall ninja you are.
How will Assassin's Creed work in a viking setting? They didn't have diversity.
Greece didn't really either. There is, what, 1 Persian in that whole game and everyone else is just Greek?
I'm not asking why they don't do those things, i'm disputing the other user's assertion that Japan is the only other worthwhile setting left.
That being said, what you point out is a bit of a postive feedback loop: America ISN'T a european country, it's not inherently and intrinsically tied entirely to europe culturally. Obviously it has it's roots in european colonization, but as the saying goes, it's also a melting pot. Other people's cultures do and have become more prevelanant in mainstream american culture and media as a result of people spreading info and it starting to be common knowledge of media using those cultures becoming popular.
If public schools invested more in teaching about other parts of history and more media was made featuring other cultures, you could see tgeneral public awareness and knowledge about them be more common and popular. Look at how japanese cultural exporets have built up interest in japanese history and culture, or how the victiorian egypt fad has had a lasting impact on an interrest in egfypt to this day, etc.
Also, there's an inherent fallaciousness to certain events or history being "more relvenant" to somebody or the world's history or culture: You can't predict butterfly effects outside of huge, obviously influential ones: Whose to say spome random war between two empires in cambodia and thailand DIDN'T cause some massive shift in european or american history down the road? even looking at obvious world changing events, nobody bothers, say, teaching about the politics and history of different Aztec city-states despite the geopolitical context and history of that region influencing them aiding the spanish and their particpation is what largelry enabled the conquest of mexico and caused the colonization of the americas to go how it did, and by extension, much modern day world history.
Eurocentricism is only justified so much.
They barely even attempt to be historically accurate.
It's absolutely more normie then those. Not SIIGNFICANTLY so over egypt/italy/greece, but there's way more viking vidya then french revolution or the crusades or pirates, and still somewhat more then egypt and goreco-roman shit
It's written nunchukos you pedantic faggot. I am not a weeb, but I really want a genuine ninja game, we haven't had that yet. Would be a shame if Ubisoft ruined the concept with the current state of AC though.
God of War 4
>More viking vidya than Greco-Roman
Underage confirmed.
That's cherrypicking and is notable PRECISELY because it's an exception.
Go look up any archeologist or historian talking about asscred and they'll tell you the cities are stupidly accurate as is the general hustle and bustle of them, they are some of the most comprehensively detailed accurate recreations of historical centers ever made. Yes, there are a few things they screw up, usually in reference to the characters soince they need to fit the in game narrative, and rarely shit what like you posted, but overall they are way, way better then most historical media
Compared to most mainstream media set in Ancient Egypt Asscreed origins might as well be a academic study.
>but I really want a genuine ninja game, we haven't had that yet.
Someone never played Tenchu.
I'm just trying to concept this:
>Multiple regions and civil wars, competing Jarls.
>Sailing (in a row ship)
>Raiding?
>Maaybe kill dudes down in England etc.
Vikings weren't about stealth, no they came screaming at you with an axe.
This. People see shit like that and write the whole game off because "MUH WIMINZ IN VIDYA!" instead of recognizing that its a relatively small change that they themselves would probably not even notice while playing, and the rest of the world is extremely accurate.
There absolutely is.
The only greco-roman vidya is oldass and a few modern strategy titles, Ryse, and Oddessy, maybe a few movie tie in in the gen 6 era.
There';s a lot more random vidya set in medivial/iron age europe with vikings.
The more you write, the more obvious it becomes that you are like 14 years old max.
>people in a class
>ganeplay
The same way Assassin's Creed III worked, which means it won't
I turned 25 a week ago, m8
it's honestly horrifying and depressing, I thought i'd be in graduate school by now studying archeology but instead I haven';t even gone to college because of an abusive, toxic living situation
send help
People that get angry over this example make me kek. Even when Ubi are departing from history in a big way like that, they still make it a point to tell the player what they've changed and how they've changed it. Get mad over something that's actually revisionist, like BF5.
>RPG
I don't think that word means what IGN told you it means.
When have they ever been historically accurate
Was AC4 the last decent game that Ubi ever made?
Expeditions Viking is the only one you'll need to play.
it makes me sad that they did Expeditions Conquistador first and viking second, Conquistador would have really beneifted from the iterative improvements
It would've been cool if they made the future settings fun. We like the lore and story but nobody likes the walking sim, let us parkour and kill people in the future
Is there even a story anymore.
Name 5 viking games. How about just 3?
Templars still have nuance in 3, 4 and rogue. I don't know about unity, syndicate or Odyssey. but definitely not in origins or the ezio trilogy.
There's an obscure viking game that came out in the PS3 gen, I read about it in game informer.
Maybe it was Viking: Battle for Asgard.
None of those things are equivalent
Reading a book isn't the same as a hollywood blockbuster which isn't the same as playing a video game
Viking are so fucking lame dude
The early AC games were notoriously easy so you were always just role-playing an assassin for fun since you could run in and clear whole areas in single combat
Kys
>The only modern RPG he has played is the witcher 3
based
Was Odyssey any good? It's on sale for 25 bucks. Last asscream I played was Black Flag and I enjoyed it.
It was pretty good but I'm biased towards the Greek setting
AC4 but with longboats
That sounds cool as fuck
t. doesn't know how back compat works or why companies don't deal with it unless there's HUGE demand
Fuck no, the Desmond sections were the worst fucking parts of the games. Nobody gave a shit about the modern day storyline, they just wanted to play as a cool assassin and got frustrated when they were taken out of the game for some worthless plot. Ubisoft thankfully realized that and for the most part scrapped all the dumb modern shit.
It's not cherrypicking.
It's one of an entire game full of examples showing that they don't attempt to portray historical people with even the slightest degree of authenticity.
They're modern French-Canadians in togas. They don't believe what we know the people believed and they don't act like we know they acted.
m8 it's already been pointed out twice in this thread that specific historical people are admittedly treated with not as musch accuracy as the cities and general society for the sake of the in game narrative
but even then they are only handled as bad as how most historical media handles everything
>but I really want a genuine ninja game, we haven't had that yet.
What does genuine ninja game mean to you that we haven't seen in ninja gaiden, sekiro, nioh, etc.
I'm not talking about specific people, I'm talking about every person. No attempt is made to be authentic outside of the architecture.
any game that lets you play your way whether that means building your character how you like or shifting the story to the path you prefer is an RPG user.
Can you imagine actually giving a shit about assassins creed in 2019? Holy shit
No because it was great and they kept making more great games
>tfw no assassins creed set in Prague/HRE during the 30 years war
This time around backwards compatibility might be easy since both consoles are likely to simply play their predecessors games
Okay, now explain how the skin tone or gender of the town guards has any tangible impact on the fun of fighting in the Peloponnesian war
Keeping in mind that most people loved the movie 300, so even if you can't enjoy a game that isn't a dry textbook, most people can.
Because historical authenticity is more fun than pseudo-capeshit schlock with bonus inclusivity.