So, i'm replaying the original AC on my X1X and it's glorious.
There is something here that the later games just lack, I don't know if it's the actual intelligence gathering or the more impactful swordplay, but it just has something else.
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>impactful swordplay
Seriously now?
>impactful
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I can see what he means.
there's a bit more to it than X to Counter Kill every 3 seconds and it does feel a bit more meaty and weighty than later games.
>There is something here that the later games just lack
unironically, soul.
at this point in the franchise, assassin's creed was planned out to just a be trillogy,
the first game, you play as altiare, the second, ezio, and the third desmond in the modern day.
The director of the franchise got forced off his own project around 2, and ubisoft raped his creation into the abomination we know know today.
You were an Assassin, not MAMA MIA Batman.
No, wait a moment...you're telling that the sequels have even dumber combat that the first game?
That's hilarious.
Assassin's Creed games bore the hell out of me. I'll try one out, get into it for a few hours, then realise how monotonous everything is.
Only thing I miss about AC1 was riding a horse through hundreds of people and watching the cascading effect.
>Soul meme.
Yawn.
Is the Modern Day story still going?
I heard they resolved the Juno plotline In comics, after years of drip feeding in the games.
I suppose they expect AC fans to gorge every single piece of media.
one thing that game have is that the script or narrative is not "somebody who was historically bad" = templars and "everybody who was right" = assassins and instead you are left in the middle.
I hate that in Unity, every single character that was supposed to be violent or traitor is a templar and everybody who was "on the right side of history" is an assassins.
This. It's all very Grey in Ac1 and you can agree with the "bad" guys. Then from brotherhood onwards they become mustache twirling comedy villans.
turn off all the HUD elements for the best experience
>at this point in the franchise, assassin's creed was planned out to just a be trillogy,
>the first game, you play as altiare, the second, ezio, and the third desmond in the modern day.
>The director of the franchise got forced off his own project around 2, and ubisoft raped his creation into the abomination we know know today.
read the rest, virgin.
i should fucking KILL YOU RIGHT WHERE YOU STAND
>but it just has something else.
Its the only one with proper assassin atmopshere, phylosophical discussion (Im looking at you Sibrand, im afraid to die too, and i also think there's nothing out there), stealth, and all what assassins creed represents.
Honestly, a remake of this game with more gameplay but keeping the story, personalities and all the rest the same, would be GODLIKE
AC1 was designed as a Prince of Persia game, so general gameplay is much more methodical and combat more punishing. I also really dug the open world segments between cities.
Acre best city
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If you dont play the game by just killing the target, and run away without killing soldiers, then you are not playing the game right
GO BACK TO THE CROWD
BECOME ONE WITH THE PEOPLE AGAIN
It's my favorite AC. It has many flaws, but none of them stop me from playing the game, even today. I replayed the series this past winter up to BF, then played the ones I hadn't played which were Unity and Syndicate. I haven't tried Origins or Odyssey yet and I'm not even sure I want to. AC1 also has the best soundtrack too
Its the only game that made the "assassins creed" right
I remember the announcement trailers.
I remember the hype and preordering it.
I remember loving every minute of it even though it was repetetive as hell.
It was such a novel game.
Shame how it went all downhill with Brotherhood
The cities have atmosphere.
You can just slowly walk the streets and be among the people and they feel like they belong instead of just being Canon Fodder NPC's.
Same here, everytime i play it again i try to get the kill as clean as possible (they catch me after i kill the target of course, i wouldnt miss the chase theme and the escape for nothing in the world), but i try to keep it clean before. ALways looking for newer and cooler ways to kill them.
The medieval setting is the best part. Unity would have been 100x better if it was in medieval France instead of 18th century france.
>brotherhood
>bad
Name a single bad mechanic of brotherhood. I'll fucking wait.
Game went to shit with 3 and had a modest revival with 4 and its spinoff.
AC1 was soulless bland shit which wasn't even the best in the series, play this game instead OP since it originally going to be an open world version of it
Don't fall for the le repetitive meme
It's the best AC and every game afterwards loses a bit of the original vision.
AC2 is incredibly casualised.
1, 2 and Black Flag are the only ones worth anything, maybe Brotherhood.
I'd snag them, but fuck me if I am ever going to use Uplay.
This
The game was designed without a HUD.
It was added in just before release because Ubisoft thought it'd be too hard.
You can get everything you need from the game by subtle context clues
This got even better as the series went on. In the first few there's crowds of NPC's all over the cities, but all they really do is walk in circles around a block or 2.
Later games have them doing custom animations and tasks that really make the city feel alive. There's gotta be hundreds of them. Fishing, playing with dogs, harvesting clay and drying it into bricks, picking fruit from orchards, dyeing fabrics in big pools of dye, making pottery, working on wood in a workshop, and a lot more.
Its a shame because AC series is so mediocre, these detailed worlds they create are utterly wasted on the games.
Tower defense
"I Win Button" or summoning your peeps
Chain kills? I'm not sure if those came with Brotherhood or Revelations
Either way it brought little new to the table and what it did bring was garbage. Signaling the direction future games would take.
Using the hidden blade in open combat was so much fun in 1, you couldn't block at all and the counter timing was much more strict than with the sword and dagger. It felt satisfying and the guards would start panicking and fleeing when you killed a few of them with an empty palm.
AC1 has good deep writing and philosophical arguments on both sides. Neither side is explicitly good or bad and the whole plot ends with Altair choosing to break away from the script he''s been given.
Odyssey has a Character called Testikulous the Nut.
Couldn't agree more, OP.
Swapping out the morally grey story for comic book shit and strategic missions for GTA-clone mission designs killed the series for me.
Welcome to Patrice Désilets' vision of AC. The guy influenced the videogame industry for the last 10 years and no one even remembers him. Hopefully he'll laugh last with Ancestors and 1666.
Also, the game was build without minimap in mind. The cities are build with landmarks so you can navigate them in a fully immersive way. This game is very special and the amount of details that get abandoned in the sequels culminating in the shitty franchise that Assassin's Creed is today is easily one of gaming's saddest things.
1 and Unity have the hardest AC combat out of the bunch (haven't played the shitty RPG wannabes). In 1 you can't counter kill most enemies, and they can break your guard if you keep it up too long. Different weapons have different counter frame lenghts, with the sword being the default, the dagger having it shorter but its regular attacks being faster and thus easier to combo (more on this in a bit) and then the hidden balde, with which you can't block whatsoever and has the shortest window of opportunity but it always results in a brutal one hit kill.
As I said, you can also combo strikes by attacking again right when your blade connects with the enemies. Do it succesfully three times or so and you'll be the one breaking the enemies guard.
Overall it's still simple but way better than what came after it. As soon as ACII, being able to heal yourself and block and counter with the dual hidden blades makes combat laughably easy.
>you've been here long enough to see Assassin's Fucking Creed being praised for its "actual intelligence gathering" and "impactful swordplay"
Pushing people down stairs was fun.
You forgot the war thing just being what flavor of icecream you choose or the fact that they tried to copy Shadow of War's Nemesis system (ironic, ripping off the game that ripped off from them in the first place, but did it much better) and did a shit job of it.
This game is so criminally underrated, simply because it's a short singleplayer-only experience without much to talk about.
Don't, they're not AC and as middle of the shelf RPG they're pathetic. Keep doing what you, me and every sensible person should do: play up until Unity, ignoring the Modern Day storyline after III, and then call it quits.
Oh look it's thar one annoying autist who only liked the games because of the modern day/ancient aliens shit. Aka the worst parts.
Animus was a cool framing device for a Historical game series, but that's all it was, "cool". They never expanded upon it or made it worthwhile. All it ever amounted to was the player being ripped away from the main game and forced to play as some dumbass in a linear modern day section
I never mentioned the Animus in my post though. What makes you think I liked it?
I remember it being very highly rated.
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At the time, yeah, but it hardly gets mentioned these days. It's not the kind of game anyone's gonna put on their list of favorite games of all time or their 3x3 or whatever.
Don't be so dramatic, Origins and Syndicate are perfectly fine if you just want to play the game as historical tourism simulators. You know, exploring the maps and fighting guys in different time periods. The main appeal of the series.
Odyssey isn't though, they don't really try to be Historical in that one anymore.that one is mostly fantasy and is easily the worst of the series. They shove WAY too much pieces of Eden and ancient civilisation shit into it, it might as well be world of Warcraft. (And it's about as grindy as that, too.)
Animus is the main framing device through which the Modern day and conspiracy and First civilisation plotlines are all connected. Without the animus none of it would work.
The first game is so fucking boring though
>waah I need constant gimmicky bullshit to hold my microscopic attention span instead of just enjoying polished core gameplay
I know, I loved Désilets story. Doesn't mean I mentioned it in my original post though.
The first game is arguably the best looking.
Sure it doesnt have the modern oomph, but it has the tone and style.
lol fuck off. the first game is the most repetitive game i have ever fucking played. even for ubisoft its really repetitive
Tower Defense was Revelations
"I win" worked differently, there was a weapon triangle system going on and enemies behaved differently which made going into combat to easy win an inconsistent option (Papal Guard will rape you without final tier weapons or perfect timed blocks)
Chain Kills were implemented to get you through those higher-level enemies by killing fodder, and not every enemy can be chain killed
Summoning your dudes was actually cool as shit since the minigame wasn't overly elaborate and it was all optional.
>impactful swordplay
kill yourself, faggot
you can literally kill anything by countering with the hidden blade
Only with good timing, and if you try to do that in a crowd and fuck up you can get curbstomped pretty easily. That one fight with the Templar in the open world segment where you're surrounded by like 20 soldiers is pretty tough.
>That one fight with the Templar in the open world segment where you're surrounded by like 20 soldiers is pretty tough.
get gud, shitter
you're like those faggots that act like following the train in San Andreas was so fucking difficult
What? First you say the game is piss easy and then you tell people to git gud? Do you have brain damage or are you just the densest fuck in the known universe?
Reminder Patrice Désilets is stronger than ever and will make his dreams true with Ancestors, and after that with Amsterdam! he got the rights to the IP back from Ubisoft, fuck them!
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Slightly connected, but is Liberation worth a playthrough? I got it as part of the Odyssey Season Pass.
I only ever tolerated it. In the first 2 games it was still fresh and interesting, but then it became all too clear it would never conclude and it would just drag on forever.
The Assassins and Templars will always be fighting over some stupid magic artifact. You'll always have to play through a life to see where the stupid thing is hidden.
I play the games for the setting, exploring, the character's journey & progression, & the climbing.
I wish they'd just ditch the assassin's, Templars, ancient Civ, modern day, and all that. All it does is make every game the same.
Keep animus (or rather, bring animus back) because that's still a cool concept. HP = Synchronization and all that. It's Ultimately interchangeable but it's just some extra dressing.
If you don't know what it is, it's nostalgia.
Jesus Christ that is some shit taste, I remember being extremely dissapointed back when it came out and I was like 14 back then. 75% of the game is the same boring shit over and over, it's mindnumbingly repetetive, and the "social stealth" is such a joke, press a button for this contextual action, it feels like the enitire game is unfinished. Which is a shame because the 25% of actual content are quite enjoyable and it has great atmosphere
m8 the game sold like 14 MILLIOIN COPIES
Granted from release until now but 14 MILLION COPIES OF A 4 HOUR SINGLEPLAYER GAME
I was really hyped up for this game thinking it would be open world Hitman "parkour edition".
the actual assassinations were the only fun part, but they are extremely few.
Doing a bit of espionage before the hit is fine, but they just recycled the same missions over and over until you got to the entertaining part.
And I don't think the sequels really fixed that either since it just became an action game instead.
the people that want actual stealth are in the minority so it's safer to just do generic action.
I would recommend Styx or even Dishonored over AC
>set up an ancient Mediterranean trilogy
>abandon it at the end because faggots on Reddit kept crying that Rome would be the same as Greece
>fall for the boring, overrated vikings meme instead
Yeah, it's still my favourite in the series. I agree with all you said, but I'd add that this is the only game I felt like actual Assassin (as in a member of the order of assassins). The holy land setting was a lot more interesting and enjoyable for me, and I liked that the enemies were people I hadn't heard of for the most part. Everything after felt like pseudo-historical Forrest Gump wearing a dumb hoodie running around murdering people.
>do the same 3 repetitive missions until you found your target and repeat
what a great game
AC1 still has the best parkour system.
Odyssey kind of pisses me off because it looks nice and I think exploring the actual world is fun enough but nothing about it actually feels impressive. Like you finally make your way to Athens and you'd think it'd be this cool moment and awesome to run around in and instead you see the Parthenon and... that's really it, there's nothing at all impressive about it. That really sums up Odyssey as a whole.
It's more like I finally reach the Parthenon and it's really cool but for some reason the statue of Athena beside it is 55feet tall instead of 15 feet tall so I just feel like I'm in some ridiculous theme park instead of a real place
Wont lie, going back to Masayaf in Revelations was an unreal experience.
Best game in the series. They went wrong even in the second game, it just wasn't the same, you were shacking it up with stupid ideas like including Leonardo Da Vince of all people in the game, doing stupid shit like town-management and just a lot of wrong focus instead of actually delving into the assassination parts, like the first game. You still remember the assassinations in the first games, because everything was built around that, gather information, find location, find method and execute without getting slaughtered by a thousand guards.
Sometimes when fighting multiple enemies in Origins, the puppeteer system spaces out completely and Bayek just random starts jumping back and forth then striking repeatedly for like 10 times. Having no control over the character just makes every combat sequence an awkward form of QTE. I was never a fan of AC combat but this makes it all the more sad they removed most stealth stuff from later games since that was the series only redeeming quality aside from the scenery and setting.
Best chase music in gaming desu. I wish someone would upload a version with the bells ringing though
But that's false, and isn't Unity the only AC game where there's a plotline to end the war between assassins and templars, even if it all ends in betrayal and misery?
Face it, even the best games boil down to conflicts of good vs. evil. I'm more annoyed by the fact that in recent AC games the main character ends up having to assassinate countless of their allies because muh tragic betrayal plot except since introducing that everyone sees it coming miles away. Classic AC with it's form of "taking down a mafia organization" where you simply assassinate lower-tier temps and work your way up the chain of command while being educated about history in some limited capacity worked much better imo.
Only NPCs hate AC1. They couldn't appreciate what it was going for.
i agree, AC wasn't a combat game to start, your main objective was to get away, fighting guards meant you screwed up somehow. AC2 shifted it to a combat focus but being sneaky still helped, and then in AC3 your were literally in a war as a general. Good stealth gameplay is hard to come by and it looks like AC games are only going to get worse.
Curse the christian king and his army of infidels
I liked how allu akbar AC1 felt
same
i just look for church bells on youtube and put it, best feel
oh yeah and i forgot the church bells, its like the entire city its on alert, i love it
not to mention AC2 was originally 2 and Brotherhood combined.