While some developers are lazy, greedy or just can't stand against the publisher's orders, GameFreak is actively incompetent. All games they have in their library are mediocre forgetable platforms that were outshined by any platformers released on the same year, and... Pokémon, the most valuable game IP in the world.
Where to start?
Where as studios that handle big titles like Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed and GTA have thousands of workers and many buildings under their belt, GameFreak is a tiny "indie before it was indie" developer that fits in a tiny room somewhere in Japan. Their developers are middle aged men who wrote the code for a 1996 game and lack knowledge to do anything besides that.
GameFreak simply doesn't know how to make a modern game. They don't know how to 3D model (Stadium and Pokémon Go did a much better job), they don't know how to optimize code, they don't know how to embed art to their creation, they simply don't know how to make games.
>b-but bethesda is bad
If you asked any developer that you consider bad to develop a Pokémon game, they'd know how to do it. If you asked GameFreak to develop, let's say, Fallout 76; they'd not be able to.
they are the top, I can't really argue with this, and I'm a pokefag
Nathaniel Jenkins
>gamefreaks best game in the last decade was solitaire with a horse gimmick The absolute state of this fucking company
Gabriel Bailey
Naughty Dog
Grayson Scott
You are not even scratching thw surface, the fact that a JRPG from 95 like Chrono Trigger has so many good QoL features and pokémon does not, tells you a lot about them. Just look at fucking SWSH.
Ethan Green
>They don't know how to 3D model (Stadium and Pokémon Go did a much better job) Funny thing is, they didn't even do the 3D models in the mainline games. They were outsourced to Creatures. Game Freak literally can't into 3D games.
Cooper Clark
Viwawa
Adrian Cook
Platinum.
Julian Parker
They make games for the largest media property in history, with minimal effort involved. Im not defending them, but why should they try any harder? They make bank no matter what.
It's objective truth that GameFreak is the absolute worst. Can't really be argued against, not even by people who are fans of Pokemon.
William Rivera
I wouldn't even mind the shitty graphics, if it wasn't for the incredibly primitive gameplay. It took like what, a decade for the series to include something as basic as fighs that involve more than one enemy?
Dominic Foster
How do we convince Nintendo to buy Gamefreak, execute every staff member above 25 and let some new blood in?
Dominic Parker
>Post the WORST Developers in the World
>a simplistic menu-based rpg with virtually no interactivity or world simulation had a bigger team size and a longer development time than a sprawling open-world rpg
Is Atlus the most incompetent developer around? Mind you, I don't even like Skyrim, but I fail to see how Persona 5 could take so many resources and people to develop when its game design is so incredibly simple and downright archaic. We are talking about a game that couldn't even manage to have combat take place in the same area you explore in, and instead has to teleport you to a separate battle screen for some inexplicable reason.
>b-but bethesda is bad Lol this is the funniest bit of your post OP. Bethesda IS bad, as is gamefreak. They can both be bad together Bethesda is by far the worst one though
Evan Fisher
>remove features of old games >everyone still buys the stripped down re-release >still have to use 3rd party tools just to view basic stats of a party why would they try? why would they care? you keep buying it. furukawa is happy. everyone is happy.
Lucas Thompson
Even the most soulless franchises try to do new things. Things like Call of Duty and Sonic the Hedgehog are guaranteed to sales and they still attempt to shake things up. Tetris has had more innovation than Pokemon since the DS.
Jonathan Thompson
>couldn't even manage to have combat take place in the same area you explore in, and instead has to teleport you to a separate battle screen for some inexplicable reason. Its a JRPG trope. Persona 5 has an incredible sense of style. These little things you dont think about require work
Jacob Barnes
I find it hard to believe that GF would be able to make Chrono Trigger in 2019, even less in 1995.
I agree. I keep thinking their incompetence will catch up to them but they get away with so much fucking bullshit. I guess owning the biggest franchise in the world lets you get away with a lot of crap.
Logan Howard
They make some solid games but Sega doesn't even give them control over the game anymore, they outsourced development to dimps for like every single shitty DS port of the games
Alexander Gray
>There's a blackout >All lights intact
Nolan Taylor
Weird that they make great games when Sonic isn't involved
Adrian Collins
Persona 5 is MUCH, much better than Pokémon.
Consider all the storylines, the models, the artistic design, the voice acting and how style is inserted in everything that the game has. You can't even see the engine trails in Persona 5, that's how organic the games feel.
You can clearly see that Skyrim, Oblivion and Fallout came from the same thing, though.
Julian Jackson
but here's the thing people still buy the games regardless of what they do best example is LGPE one of the biggest cashgrabs ever
Brayden Taylor
Look, I get what you are saying, but no matter how primitive pokemon games are they still have a certain level of quality and consistency. You cannot tell me for a second that Sonic Team are better with a straight face. They may try to change things up and innovative, but jesus christ they have a stellar perfect record of fucking up constantly. Sonic is also one of the biggest franchises in the world, and the way it is handled is depressingly laughable. No matter how shit pokemon lets go is, it never reaches the levels of sonic 06 or even sonic forces.
Adam Morales
>"I can't let you pass here, go see more of Johto"
Literally can't even be bothered with a reason, just a fucking "no"
Anthony Sullivan
Ok, now THESE fucks have no fucking clue, should just bite the bullet and let Platinum, Capcom or fucking Nintendo EAD handle the next Sonic game.
Tyler Davis
If you could, to which developer would you give Pokémon?
Julian Roberts
Thanks, Cap. Keep up the good work.
Jayden Reyes
Pokemon faggots deserve everything Gamefreak gives them. For years they defended trash designs, poor balance, stagnant gameplay, the uptick in handholding, railroading, and everything else that steadily turned Pokemon to shit after gen 2. LGPE was made for retards who have put up with years of pure garbage
Chase Ortiz
>Black and White are announced >TRIPLE BATTLES YO >SHIT WILL BE SOOO CASH >literally only 3 triple battles in the game what the fuck is wrong with them
EA, Gearbox, and Bethesda are the only three game companies that I actively hope go bankrupt. I'm disgusted with the level of hype there is for Borderlands 3.
I'm also still not entirely sure why people hate Ubisoft so much. The yearly releases are kind of annoying and often result in buggy games, but they're nowhere near as bad as some others for the level of hate they receive.
To be fair progtamming a turn based RPG with simplistic overworld interactions is a lot easier than a fast paced platformer that needs incredibly big levels.
Sonic Team are still shit, though.
Elijah Torres
they don't give a shit retards will still buy the games
Jason Collins
Sonic games are objectively worse but I have more respect for a team of fuckups that keep trying to innovate than a team of hacks recycling what works. They're both garbage teams but one is sad the other has a shit eating grin.
Thomas Rodriguez
I think the worst offender so far was Gen 5 though.
There was some random copy pasted characters at a Route gate, blocking the exit who only said "Today we're here, tomorrow we might be somewhere else." It was so fucking jarring, like holy shit.
Carson Thomas
I'd give them to the guys who made Digimon: Cybersleuth.
Literally anyone would do better, though. Just look at the quality of ROM hacks and essentials games.
Jayden Gutierrez
Square Enix or Monolith soft, would at least be 10 times more ambitious.
Henry Russell
I prefer the gif version when an NPC walks past him into the restricted area.
I feel like everyone's go to is gonna be Atlus because SMT but I think one of the Squeenix teams could do it better. World of FF was already Pokemon and DQIX shows they can do a traditional JRPG on a large scale still and knock it out of the park.
Leo Young
What fanmade pokemon games would you recommend?
Liam Thomas
literally all their non sonic games are good you lil shit. its quite obvious they don't want to make sonic games but people keep buying them.
Caleb Rodriguez
I used to think Gamefreak was just lazy, but they really are just flat-out incompetent
The Splatoon team. Though they are hacks as well, especially in QOL stuff, they at least know how to make fun gameplay
Jose Perry
Bethesda is bad though.
Nolan Ortiz
Probably monolith since people want to have a pokemon game with a big world to explore and pokemon on the field. Xenoblade 2 has most of that already done. I also wouldn’t mind them trying an ATB system
Andrew Martin
Already forgot about me, huh? Don't you remember Curiosity?
oh lord a bethesda Pokemon game thanks for making me imagine a world with THAT fucking mess existing. I'd rather see a bethesda Super Mario Bros. than a Bethesda Pokemon game
and maybe a Bungie Pokemon game they seem to be able to make games where you collect stupid shit for stupid prizes
Lol my friends used to work there. One of them absolutely loathes peter molyneux. It was actually good fun hearing insider info during curiosity. It was always a Trainwreck
Liam Foster
Gamefreak are honestly amazing, they're living proof that effort or talent mean jack shit when compared to blind luck
This. They could literally make a game with 50 pokemons and the same old formula and retards would still buy it along with the gimmicky console. I'm glad I never spent a dime in this shit, god bless piracy and emulation.
Ethan Flores
>One of them absolutely loathes peter molyneux
why would he go out of his way to work with him then
>One of them If you're friends with anyone that doesn't loathe Molyneux then you don't belong on Yea Forums.
Dominic Allen
Storytime? What is it anyway?
Jason Baker
Who do so many of their games look like shit?! Like holy hell every game has obnoxious textures you'd see either in the ps2 or early ps3 era. How fucking lazy are these fucks?
Genius Sonority, who made Pokémon Colosseum and XD. Those games were brimming with SOUL
Eli Brooks
>SWSH cringe
Gabriel Miller
None of you are wrestlefags but Yuke's is the worst developer of all time for a number of reasons.
Colton Diaz
>What is it anyway Oh boy, where to begin. Molyneux founded 22cans to create 22 games. One of them was Curiosity, see here A mobile game with a big cube, made of billions of little cubes The players have to click/touch the cubes away, layer per layer The hook was that molyneux had an amazing "prize" for the guy that removed the last cube. He promised it would be life changing. What it turned out to be was a position as "God of gods" in their next game, a kickstarter project called Godus. The winner would get a cut from the profits, and could suggest things for the game. But of course, the winner never saw any money from it and Godus was a massive failure. Google it, the articles are hilarious, here's an example eurogamer.net/articles/2015-02-11-the-god-who-peter-molyneux-forgot
Jose Gray
This,the whole series should have been given to them
Nathaniel Phillips
Elaborate your point. Repeating what you said with a reaction image isn't an argument. Kids love collecting shit. There was nothing like it at the time. The game itself had more than a few programming errors (Fucking every game did back then) but the marketing and the world building were more than enough to make up for it. Not to mention that most of the programming and balance errors were of the kind that wouldn't impact the vast majority of players. They were smart enough to be one of the only companies period that took advantage of the explosion of anime in the west since Japan famously doesn't give a shit about sales in other countries.
Alexander Jackson
Modern Intelligent Systems is making GameFreak look good. FEH is just terrible and 3H is looking like a hot mess. Not to mention their treatment of Paper Mario.
And in GF's defense Pokemon remains fuckhuge so I guess they're doing something right. I dunno, maybe the normies just use pokemon as a nostalgia delivery device or some shit and wouldn't tolerate a significant departure.
Because why do they actually REMOVE features they implemented?
Ayden Sullivan
Advance was the golden age.
Adam Ramirez
Game Freak knows that they can phone it in and still sell a crapload. They're not going to improve unless Pokémon stops being a cash cow, and Satan will snowboard in Hell before that happens.
Sebastian Ramirez
Hope more people come to realize that GF are not only incompetent but have also forgotten their passion. They know that they can get away with anything, given their quotes on my image.
The collecting and raising shit is fun and there is not a single competitor in the field. It's the same reason Skyrim is popular. There is literally no other first person exploration RPG to compete with it.
Parker Adams
>tfw we'll never get another game on the level of colosseum/gale of darkness because gamefreak is retarded and doesn't involve genius sonority anymore
Angel Taylor
Looks like it, last comic is from 2016
Luis Sanders
So they can bring them back in later games for artificial hype. They know damn well what they're doing.
Landon Butler
>the marketing Dude, Nintendo only shipped 200k copies when it originally released, they never expected it to become a massive success
Josiah Reed
>and there is not a single competitor in the field Yokai Watch did a good job as a competitor in Japan when it first released. They then proceeded to oversaturate their brand with SOULLESS sequels pumped out at a rapid pace.
Joshua Perez
>b-but bethesda is bad
OP ousting themselves as a retard right out the gate by defending one of the worst development teams in existence.
Jaxon Carter
There isn't anyone worse.
GameFreak is literally on the level of like a 2 man dev team working in Unity. Despite the fact that they are heading the single most profitable media franchise on earth.
Tyler Scott
>Apex engine has shit >released two duds in a row and squandered Just Cause >RAGE 2 is next
>play Godus on iOS >seems like a slow paced but fun game >realize quickly its pay to proceed >burns thru phone battery like a hot knife >learn later some guy won a contest or something that said he'd get part of the profits from this game >Molyneux says that since the game came out it's made NO profit >told contest winner to eat shit basically
Cooper Torres
It's a shame. I think it sold poorly in part because by that point DS flashcards had gone mainstream and piracy was ridiculously rampant. But GF probably took that as "why bother"?
I remember reading a dataminer's take on their coding. The shit they found was fucking absurd.
Gabriel Bell
At the end of the day, Bioware Austin was able to make a functional MMO. A god awful one sure, but they were still able to make one, and they even had time to add a shitty gimmick.
>made drilldozer >made the gameboy camera eat shit op
John Martin
From a pure development standpoint there isn't one. There are companies out there that make more offensive games, more greedy games and so on, but no single one developer is as incompetent and behind the times as GameFreak. Even the most awful shit to come out of modern day EA, or Blizzards mobile division, or some first release of a no name indie dev, will still be far more competent and technically impressive than their games. It's unfathomable how hugely lacking of brain power and work ethic a single company can be.
Kayden Flores
Unironically Riot They are greedy, lazy, incompetent, responsible for the enforcing the "toxic" meme and the absolutely awful free to play model, their game design is idiotic, they can't balance their own game, they can't make anything good, and their workplace is a fucking mess where people sit on their asses all day and do nothing
Well, you know about their free to play system, right? It's, like, "pay to not grind" but the grinding takes years and months and even if you buy shit, you need a LOT of money to own at least a half of champions and at least one batch of rune pages. And the worst offender is, every new character is usually overpowered as fuck, so they release a broken champion, wait sone time while enough people buy him with their money, and then nerf him until the next hero and the next cycle. Add the insane amount of sex appeal just to get idiots spending money on "muh waifu" and you get one of the most predatory honeypot schemes on the market.
And remember Rising Thunder? Riot just bought the developers and made nothing with the game. Literally fuckall.
Easton Ramirez
Since there's a lot of people talking about GameFreak, what's your opinion on UltraSun/UltraMoon?
I played only Red, Yellow and now UltraSun and I liked it.
Levi Butler
I think it's funny how the most soulful thing to come from the series in the last 15 years was a Hollywood movie that catered to all pokemon fans rather than just kids or even worst, gen 1 fags.
USUM biggest problem is that it comes off as an extremely lazy rehash that Gamefreak did solely to wring as much money out of the 3DS userbase as possible before moving on. It solves none of the glaring issues S/M had, like intrusive as hell cutscenes and technical slowdown even when played on N3DS. They literally came up with the idea to re-release the game and include ideas they couldn't get around to shortly before Sun and Moon released the first time.
Kevin Lopez
That's pretty shitty. But are there any particular problems with USUM alone? Something that would make people drop it completely?
Dylan Powell
>Square Enix or Monolith soft, would at least be 10 times more ambitious.
Given their recent track records, Monolith would be the better choice.
Granted Sqaure did make a Pokemon/FF fusion and it was more fun than any of their AAA titles (FFXV, KH3, Left Alive, etc...)
Cooper Parker
gamefreak is utter dog shit but I'd argue this is the worst dev and will be for the foreseeable future. normies loved TLoU and that game popularized the cinematic 3rd person cover shooters (uncharted doesn't count). any look into popular social media shows no resentment towards cinematic games. this led to the ruining of the god of war franchise which will never return to it's roots (screen cap this). the only popular person who objected to movie game crap is Matthew matosis and he barely makes a dent.
Ayden Hernandez
The cutscenes probably. If you didn't play Sun or Moon then USUM isn't a bad choice if really want to play a Gen VII game (it has much more post-game stuff) but it's not as good as X/Y
Matthew Hill
Stinky pits!
Liam Lewis
Gamefreak just phones it in while IS is so retarded they don't know how to
I didn't even bother finishing them. They feel like a Gameboy era third game in the sense that they only added a FEW extra scenes here and there and called it a new game. It's still as much of a slog to get through as the originals and it also removed my boy Hala from the Pokémon league.
Listen, if you start the thread with an example that cannot be defeated, there is no conversation to be had.
Easton Perez
I heard that Riot bought the Rising Thunder developers for their netcode.
Colton Phillips
Bethesda steals IP's and makes shitty follow ups. Bethesda is one of the shittiest developers ever. Every good game to come out of Bethesda wasn't developed by them.
Zachary Richardson
That's weird because I tried to play Y for a few hours but it felt really lazy and childish.
Things I really hated: >chibbi style of characters >your whole squad >that dancing fatass
I just couldn't force myself to play.
That's why I didn't play SM and went straight for USUM.
Alexander Jackson
You can’t start a thread off like this when no other studio can compare to the scourge that is GameFreak.
Thomas Fisher
Don't forget their counterpart who make an equally shit game
Dylan Green
gaijins will buy anything
John Roberts
Activision EA 2K Bethesda One word Microtransactions
I wonder what I should even expect from this? A full blown gacha like FEH, where we summon various trainers from the games and each trainer has their ace mon and then send them to battle or something more tame like Mario Run?
