Why can't Japanese developers do turn based combat right?

Why can't Japanese developers do turn based combat right?

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Why can't Western developers do turn based combat right?

Rufus is /fa/ as fuck.

Name one turn based game with as much depth as Jagged Alliance 2.

daily reminder that ffx is the only good turn based ffx game

They can, you just posted shitty ass Final Fantasy instead of something good.

>strategy rpg combat
>depth

Final Fantasy Tactics

Geez a game from before you were even born has outdated gameplay stop the presses

The gameplay was dated when it came out.

Let us be reminded that a notable part of Yea Forums wanted this combat system to come back in FFVIIR.

FFX is shit

You don't know that because you weren't even swimming in your daddys ballsack yet

Reminder that this fight is the easiest out of the several you do in a row at the Shinra building. It's hard to lose once Rufus' dog has been killed. This is also a decently leveled Cloud as well.

The Japanese can do turn based well, and if you turds tried later entries in the series - atb and tbs was fast and challenging. Both FFX and FFX-2 had the best combat systems hands down in the series. People wanted some evolution of THAT in FFVIIR. Even fans of FFVII recognize it had a slow ass battle system like Xenogears. It was Grandia that showcased a perfect turn based system at that time.

lol this is from a modded version of the game
rufus has 500 HP in this fight, not 275~ that cloud does
not to mention dark nation which isn't even present

>FFX-2

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They have always done excellent turn-based combat RPGs, you just posted one of the two (30-second one-on-one) fights in a 50hours game.

That’s FFVI.

Reminder you had to bring up what is considered the magnum opus in that genre, and beyond that an Xcom almost all are shit.

X takes way too long to get good. On-rails garbage for hours.

yeah the game really picks up when you're spamming overpowered enemy skills on everything :)

Yeah, FFX-2 had an incredible combat system. It was the fastest ATB system in the series and had some strategy to it. The arena fights were amazing. The rest of the game could be stupid, but the combat is almost universally regarded as the best in the series.

Good job ignoring the other options. If you want to dumb it down to try to make your point, most games can be won by just spamming one button.

>most Final Fantasy games can be won by spamming just one button.
Fixed.

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like 80% of the abilities queue up and completely break the flow of the action pace it sells itself off. I wouldn't call it bad but my god is it overrated. I wish we got more combat like FF X where the combat flows really quickly despite being turn based, and abilities have different speed attributes that dictate the turn order.

wow that guy gets his ass kicked in every single fight and they take five times longer than just casting the right spell, if he wasn't just pressing X then he probably could win those fights quicker and not need to heal like a dumbass every 4th fight

>people still respond to WRPGfag's threads

>ffx is the only good ffx game
you don't say

I'm not buying remake because I only play turn based games. I haven't played a non turn based one in my life.

Based.

I find it peculiar that this webm starts in the middle of the fight, missing the two additional dogs and only 40 HP

It's almost as if someone had already taken out the dogs and dealt damage to the boss and healed prior to recording in order to trick us into believing this was the whole thing and was bad

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