Western studio

>western studio
>gets progressively worse with every new game

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>eastern studio
>releases the same game three times per release for 40 years straight

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>muh realism
Obvious b8

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The second one is the worst though.
And Picasso didn't paint the first one, it was his father.

>>releases the same game three times per release for 40 years straight
lol what?

Picasso got better as he got older though. You just don’t know art.

>1st picture
>KAIN IS DEIFIED

Doujin?

he looks like a chad

Just watched the OG series and movies for the first time and this made me fuckin rofl

Fuck art. There's no meaning to something so subjective. It's a means for money laundering by rich people, nothing more.

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Name 10 significant modern/contemporary artists then.
I bet you can't, since you only know the same 5 fucking cherrypicked images.

>There's no meaning to something so subjective
Go ride your corporate masters cock until you're told what to like next then, goy

>Third game has a dark twist

Underrated post

The twist is Picasso wasn't a genius. He just got old and couldn't see well so he picked all the wrong colors and drew at the wrong places.

>Volition

Kill yourself

Virgin Normal portrait
Chad Abstract portrait
Thad Ą̢̣̜͍̼͉̤͕̬̠̼̊ͨ̔͋͊ͩ͌̉͋̾ͤ̚ķ̢̖̼̘͖͎̙̥͎̗̫̗̖̪͕̗̝̼͎ͩ͒͂̀̄̄́̃͊̀̒̓́͠͞ͅđ̵̶̢͓̼̱̯̖̰͙͚̼̦̙̻̙̻̫̟̤̝́̆ͩͫ̎̍͒̉ͣ̆̀͟ͅį̷̶̗̞̤͚̘̮͙̞͍̬̟ͤͧ͒̉̍͒͋̿ͫͪͪ̈̎ͤ̈̋͝ͅŕ͔̜̗̟̱͈̬̬̦̳̂̈́ͮ̍͟͠͞ỷ̵̰̻͚̺̟͎̹̰̤̟̼͛̿̈́̄́͗̓̓͌ͫ͑̍̋͗ͤ͌͡͞ͅë̶̦̳̮̻̯͎͈͙̳͋̒̔̓̆͗ͫ̀͗ͤ́æ̗͚̼̩̙͕̽̎̃̄̀͢͟͞œ̧̜͕̮͚̟̦̰̤̜̖͍̩̯̂̀͆̃ͦ͌͒͂͜͠ͅ

Anyone been to the Picasso museum in Barcelona? I want to get hold of the dirty Jewish minds that lead this lost soul astray.
The Spanish inquisition were right.

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There are blind painters and drawers, not seeing is not an excuse for not making art. Try again

Still not as bad as Andy Warhol, he draws like a horny 13 year old with a fat fetish.

Hold it!
Well, obviously, they are geniuses and I claimed Picasso isn't.

He painted this when he was like 8 btw.
Most of Yea Forums was probably struggling to beat sonic at that age.

brainlet cope

have synch

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Yea Forums - S*ytendo

This is basically Fromsoftware.

>first time
I wish I could see your face when you find out about the space turtles

>Dark souls,Dark souls 2 and bloodborne.png

I'm convinced of a insider conspiracy that the mods and jannies actively wish to kill this board.
I bet half those posts are mods and their discord buddies.

for me it's Franz Xavier Winterhalter.

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It was painted by his dad, retard

>brainless on Yea Forums can’t imagine how boring realism can be.
Picasso literally looked at African masks and thought they were more interesting than anything he has done.

Nintendo is söy repellent.

picasso was chad as fuck

Anno series ?

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It would have been interesting to see a 20th century artist use the realistic to draw something unrealistic.
Something that you know does or cannot exist but in a way that it seems it does.

Your picture was painted with white paint so you have to be in person to see it

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So brainwashed you can't think of other possibilities.

>Pretentious retard who likes to pretend he "understands" bullshit
Changing it up from a lack of realism doesn't mean go full retard mode and paint like a fucking 8 year old

Heres the autistic response. At the time everyone was doing "realism" and anything different was seen as new and interesting, it became less about the actual quality of the image, but rather its meanings and interpretation behind each stroke, it was considered "intelligent" when some shitty lines is a representation of how the artist use to arrange sticks when they were young to ignore the fighting of their parents, thats sort of shit. You could discern and interpret more meaning from his later work than his earlier work, even if the quality is better in the early work.

What separates artists isnt how well they can replicate the world around them, it is how they interpret it and see it, and give their own window into what they see. If you get 2 artists to paint the same scene with the aim of doing it realistically you will have 2 paintings of a scene that you can get any number of artists to replicate themselves, if you get 2 artsits who have personal style to do the same you will have 2 completely different paintings of that may well make you look at the scene in a different light. Look at Van Goughs Stary Night painting, do night times look like that? Thats how he saw it, and even if you dont like the quality its an intersting perspective to see something so colorful and living in the night sky.
Art is for artists, 90% of it is pretentious

Caravaggio smokes that fool.

I like this guy's art he painted a lot of animals and stuff

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Literally Dali

Just take a picture you stupid nigger.

>Art is for artists, 90% of it is pretentious
>worse

Who's the girl on the right ?

Me.

what is surrealism?

>mfw pig fucking white trash think art is supposed to be 1 to 1 recreation of reality without any imagination or creativity.

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Well, yes, S*yny is shit too, maybe worse, i never stated the contrary.

Call of Duty. Gears of War. God of War. literally any shooter. Based retard the west is much worse between this for normals and unplayable woke feminist shit.

>men age like wine

I never understood how Yea Forums became so obsessed with an extremely strict view of art as realism when most of the popular stuff on this website doesn't align with such a world view.
Is it just contranianism for the sake of contranianism?

modern art is actually god awful, at the very least you cannot debate this

this but without the most derivative form of media ever as a reaction image

election tourists from /pol/ trying to justify their own retardation

same

>t. Never took art history

/pol/ niggers think adolf was right about everything. Honestly I don't even know why they're on this website.

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You are the retard, anyone with half a brain can see that he doesn’t paint like he is 8 years old. For example, 8 year olds have no concept of composition. Picasso obviously understands composition. Do you even know what composition means?

Who is the most Chad artist and why is it Bacon?

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Yea Forums, please Yea Forums, stop talking about art or anything slightly more cerebral than playing your Persona 5, Witcher 3 or Fortnight.
No Yea Forums, blaming the "jews" is not the answer to your problems, it only points out how hopelessly mediocre, obsessed and normalfag you are, Hebert copypastas don't help either.

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It's reactionary hate toward what is perceived as modern.

a wild fancy

/pol/ retards are pissed that their idol was a complete failure that was too shit at painting to get into art school.

A lot of it is just autists who can't express themselves properly. They're more upset about art students today being able to attend prestiguous art schools without having any artistic talent or vision or even any interest in art at all. They can just splash some period blood on a canvas, write a paper on why whatever they hate is bad, and boom, doctorate

Unfortunately, self-awareness is a fairly distant concept to some.

You first, faggot
>OOH LOOK THERE PISS IN A JAR, this is sooo artistic! This jug of piss should be in a museum!

>it's a brainlet trying to understand art episode
Stick to jacking off to cartoon cunny porn, nerd.

O B S E S S E D

I want a real game done in Beksinski's style.
Bacon is high-tier to be sure. Head VI is one of my favorite paintings. I tried to emulate it once. Messed around with paint thinner to see if I could achieve a similar but different affect.

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Cope.

>Why don't people like my intentionally bad art anymore!! :((

Cubism is retarded.

Great taste. One of my favourites along with Soutine and Beckmann.

>pretentious art retards are so scared of "not getting" art that they pretend the center and right paintings are better

I can't imagine living such a lie of a life.

for me it's Victor Vasnetsov

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>Yea Forums
Literally everyone is more into artistry and technical skill over pseudo-talents trying to challenge what art even is by being technically shit on purpose
'What's the deal with modern art?' is the airline food joke of the 21st century, fucking everyone hates modern "art"

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Stick to looking at "ironic" kindergarten tier paintings by "artists", artfag

>dude lets paint something ugly and call it impressionism L M A O

Eat shit you book burning barbarian.

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Pic related is real art

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BALONEY PONY

>I want a real game done in Beksinski's style

That reminds me, what's happening with that Scorn game? I haven't seen anything about it in a while, I wouldn't be surprised if it's vaporware at this point.

>intentionally bad
>not understanding that realism was only the primary form of painting because photography didn’t exist.

Frazetta, the actual gigachad

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Beautiful and transformative the wood in hollywood is clearly supposed to represent the predatory actions of holly(wood) execs and how they fuck the cast

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Start off with impressionism and art nouveau then modern art will make more sense.

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I thought Picasso's drawings looked the way it did as he got older because he had brain damage/mental health shit going on so he saw the world differently.

I'm surprised there was no pre 3e direct, they have way too much stuff to cover to fit it all in e3.

I genuinely think Picasso's art looks terrible. I'm not saying art should strive for photorealism, but it's not black and white - there's infinitely many categories of art between photorealistic and a work of "art" that looks like my 3 year old nephew drew it.

3>1>2
What are some games that match this?

Art is retarded. At least high art is, because is biased depending on the artists reputation and not entirely on skill.

Picasso could have drawn a single square and a dot on an empty canvass and people would find hundreds of meanings to it just because it's Picasso.

RENT FREE

DMC

>72% of players identify as LGBT
Where id they pull this bullshit from?

Yea Forums - Video Games

This nigga, he was gay af but look at dem cloths

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Correct

>there are still people who think Yea Forums is not just a toddler central

If you all want to shit a brick, Google Cy Twombly.

Here's an example. My art teacher praised him. I tried to understand it, I really did. I like a lot of other modern/post-modern stuff, but I never could like Twombly's shit.

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hol up
Since when Picasso looked like that? mirin' jaw

Video games is art.

Art isn't retarded, pretentious art snobs are retarded. You can just ignore the existence of "high art" and enjoy art created by actually talented individuals.

art should require skill that's all i'm saying and the only one up there that requires skill is numero uno

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DICE

Picture unrelated? The last portrait is by far the most badass and interesting one.

It has to do with the modern concept and definition of art which was left astray by the Right and given to the Left. Once this process took over the spirit of art went from enlightenment/incline to entropy or the decline of it for it's own sake. Usually good art is not considered subjective like the Left does, but objective and mathematical since beauty is objective and form/design is math.

This is basically it. Also read or watch The Banishment of Beauty, read Evola on Dadaism, etc. 95% of the people in the thread don't know what they are talking about.

I'd like to see you paint something like the 3rd. Oh wait, you can't. You're just a butthurt /pol/ster who thinks that any art that isn't the classics as painted by Michelangelo is shit. Picasso is NOT the same as some modern artist masturbating on stage, or smearing their shit across a canvas. If you can't see the artistic merit in his work you're a genuine, one-of-a-kind, true to life, shitposting brainlet.

It doesn’t look like you 3 year old nephew did it though. Anyone with a brain can see the differences in composition. Picasso still follows very recognizable composition rules common in more realistic painting at the time, he just decided to use those rules to make something that he wanted to make.

>it's realistic so that means it's more gooder
fucking christ

Incorrect.

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how does it feel being so wrong? Imagine your world without the art that you enjoy and then say it has no meaning.

nah its just nonsense
would a 4th be even more interesting if it was just random geometric shapes that didnt even resemble a head?

It's still bad if it's ironically bad.

>western studio
>releases the same game every single year

>It doesn’t look like you 3 year old nephew did it though

You're right, my nephew is pretty talented, some of his doodles actually look a little better

where did i at all in my post refer to realism?

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>you can either draw realistic or you can draw fucking terrible drawings that look like absolute shit
>no middle ground or any other style is allowed

Isn't this artist some faggot leftist?

Maybe at the very end; but for a very long time into his cubist period it was simply him choosing to draw that way. Whether that's because he really thought it was brilliant or because it was much easier and what people expected and wanted to pay for is debatable.

Here's an example from 1945. A series of bulls in increasingly minimalist design.

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Composition retard. Is it too big a word for you?

no, what? It's still obviously a face, just surreal and disjointed which makes it more visually appealing than a boring old regular human face.

Goodnight Picasso

paradox

>but objective and mathematical since beauty is objective and form/design is math.
is this was true stemfags would not be famous for their shit taste and lack of aesthetics

Faggots who "appreciate" modern art are nothing more than idiots trying to act smart by pretending to find meaning in meaningless things.

it's a bit sad

My nephew's works have much better composition.

I think that vidya can be art but that the industry just isn't set for it. There's something that can be done with the medium being interactive, but very few attempts have succeeded.

>if a "leftist" says the sky is blue it's actually purple.

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name one thing specifically about it that is interesting
"it looks weird" doesnt count

his leftism isn't the cause of his faggotry

not him but the sky would be a lot cooler if it was purple

>Expecting any kind of coherent argument from a hooligan who quotes Evola of all people

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People from /pol/ don't like Liberals. Most modern day artists are liberals. Ergo, art from last 100 years = bad. Old art = good because the people who made it are Christians.

The composition of those paintings is retarded, my guy. It looks unaesthetic and amateurish.

So it is too big a word for you. Thanks for clarifying.

I thinik Beksinski's art shows insane technical mastery but it is also very digestable to the average Yea Forums user.
Most Yea Forums users will see a skeleton playing a trumpet and say "cool", then move on life. They don't really care about what the artist tried to say at all.

It is supposed to be a 1 to 1 recreation of a fantasy.

This but unironically.

BUT THE SKY ISN'T PURPLE YOU CAN'T DRAW A PICTURE WITH PURPLE SKY

the colors are psychedelic, the extra features where they don't belong, the unnatural geometrical shapes

actually if a leftist says the sky is blue then it means that once in his lifetime he was finally right about something.

If the sky was purple you'd be saying how a blue sky would be much cooler. Things you aren't used to are cooler.

Booty bothered art majors on parade. I knew this place was turning to shit but I didn't think it was that bad already.

/pol/ doesn't like Christians either since the religion has Jewish roots

Rope yourself, you postmodernist cuckold faggot.

you're making arguments for people who aren't arguing that at all my dude you should refrain from that

it's obvious that you believe that by the rest of your post

You misread OP, he said worse with every new game. FromSoft has only gotten better.

It objectively is purple sometimes.

Is his faggotry the cause of his leftism?

>Michael Bay movies and Fabio romance novels are art
>Lil' Xan and Lil' Peep are art
>Video games are for kids and if u like them u dum :(((((

You can make any medium look like trash because most things are trash. Most music is trash. Most films are trash. Most books are trash. Most video games are trash. Most building blocks are trash. I'm trash, you're trash, we're all trash, the world is trash.

Well that’s a stupid way to think about art.

better to be booty bothered art hipster than a boring square that can't even appreciate art.

what was the artist trying to say, user?

Germany was destroyed and occupied by communists because of the Nazi party and their poor decision making.

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You're making this too easy.

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wrong
purple is my favourite cooler that's why it'd be cooler imo

Dark Souls 3 is one of the worst games ever made.

>Most Yea Forums users will see a skeleton playing a trumpet and say "cool", then move on life.
kek, very true

>Listen to podcasts or audiobooks in car
>Play white noise in background when mindlessly web browsing

Not too bad desu

>Is his faggotry the cause of his leftism?
no, those things are unrelated believe it or not.

The irony in you using a word that you clearly don't understand and then going into damage control mode and saying that the word is "too big" for me is just pure gold. The paintings simply have terrible composition. Throwing around a basic art term that you heard in your 4th grade art class and thinking that makes you an authority on art is retarded. You should probably just end yourself.

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That's not terribly uncommon.

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"The sky is blue" a fairly common expression in the west for expressing something obvious and true.

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That is untrue. Plenty of people on /pol/ pretend to be Christians because they see it as opposite of being a leftist. Obviously they're stupid because Christians are a bunch of cucks, but still.

>"ironic" kindergarten tier paintings by "artists"
Alright stormshitter. Try drawing something that is even half as good as the third picture.
If even a kindergartener can do it, so can you, right?

well you assumed wrong pal now go back to your gay art

>console with the most jRPGs and Japanese exclusives is bought and played mostly by the kind of faggots who sit around pretending to be a little girl in programming socks all day

I'd believe it. Too bad they're getting fucked now because all their anime tiddies are getting censored.

If the sky was purple you'd be so exposed to the color all the time that it wouldn't be your favorite color. Fact.

Fucking terrible point. The actual point of a lot of contemporary art is the omission of fundamentals altogether, composition being one of them as well.

Some contemporary artists actually do very little a literal child can't do. And that's perfectly fine, because it never was about the fundamentals, you fucking dunce. Do you actually "get" art or do you just pretend to?

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Wait, Nazis burned books? What books were they? Russian masters?

cope

It's the "73.6% of all Statistics are Made Up" method.

>18

Well fuck.

youtube.com/watch?v=lNI07egoefc

Beauty is only a part of art.

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I think there's a big difference between being able to draw realistic and with good technique and choosing to do something else compared to just being a shitter that's unable to draw well.

Leftists are more likely to believe in science (clarification: real science, not biased surveys with no conclusive findings) than conservatives. Werent there a ton of trump supporters that thought building a wall across the Atlantic Ocean was a good idea because it would keep Muslims out of the country?

>I'm too much of a stupid child to read about ideas and opinions that disagree with my own.
Oh sweaty.

Looks like shiny rubber.

wrong my entire bedroom is coloured purple and has been since i was like 5 it'll always be my favourite colour hombre

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I like art but it really has none. It's made for silly reasons and enjoyed for silly reasons. The reason the world without art would be worse is not actually because of art but because of pain. Pain is the value that has meaning, art just occasionally interacts with it. It has no meaning of its own.

>progressively
nice pun, OP

I didn't say that I understood the meaning of the painting he posted, only that the average Yea Forums user doesn't care about its meaning.

>PragerU
Fuck off retard.

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Christfags are but a small loud minority of irrelevance, they know this which makes them agitated. The West knows that it is spiritually weak and needs to create something that will usher in a better age.

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I can appreciate art. I love a good bit of art. I might not go out of my way to look at art but if I see some good art I think "that's some nice art". The problem is we have a lot of "art" now-a-days that, like that guy said, is literally just a way for rich people to gift hundreds of millions of dollars to each other. I remember reading once that Daniel Radcliffe, shortly after he got lots of wonga for being Harry Potter, wanted to buy some art for his new mansion or whatever. They told him to fuck off because he wasn't in their super secret art buyers club. It's the biggest scam of all time.

Purple is my favorite color too user

>PragerU
Literally fucking braindead.

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No, really: what books did they burn?

Except if you researched Beksinski at all, you'd know he claims there's no meaning behind his paintings. A lot of people assume it's his interpretation of the horrors he saw as a child during World War 2, but he says it's just dreams and fun imagery he makes.

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Explain me thinking the blue sky is perfect and I wouldn't want it any other way then. You're pulling shit out your ass. Grass is greener is definitely real, but you're using it wrong.

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>actually linking PragerU videos unironically
holy shit that's the most embarrassing thing I've seen on this board.

Unironically linking Koch propaganda

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>something that obviously isn't true is a common expression for things that are obviously true

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Alex Ross
Bob Ross
Pollock
Picasso
Dali
Duchamp
Walter Gropius
Normal Rockwell
Greg Martin
Akira Toriyama
Murata
Chuck Close

>PragerU
Yikes.

You just gave me the meaning of his paintings retard.

so it's true that friendship can bloom on a battlefield

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Fuck off.
youtube.com/watch?v=bHw4MMEnmpc

>B.B.B.B.B..B.BUT NINTENDOOOOOOOOOO
gee I wonder who could be behind this melt down

isn't it weird that janies delete video game threads and leave tranny threads alive?

Spoken like a true suicide-bomber.

Freud books.

I’m saying early Picasso art still adheres to many traditional rules of composition, not that he didn’t slowly step away and discover his own rules, or that later artists didn’t completely make their own rules entirely. I’m arguing that there was a transitional period,and that modern art didn’t just appear out of nowhere.

We all know PragerU is garbage shill shit. But this particular point about art isn't wrong. Both of you posting that doesn't make you smart.

I never went to art school but I was thinking of it back in high school because my dad is a fashion photographer and back then I was thinking of pursing the same full time.
I think the biggest "problem" is when someone's art turns into a self-expression that does not says anything to anyone anymore. It can mean much to the artists himself but absolutely nothing to the audience. I've seen a lot of people falling into this trap, as far as making images that were strictly just noise basically. I can understand why some people are "triggered" by this. Obviously this does not apply to famous artists
At the same time, most people who critique art on the internet has no sense of style or aesthetics that is required to create great art. Especially in photography, especially men who care too much about the technical details and cant look them and stuck at analyzing how it was lit and things like that. People who fall into this category can never create anything great because they are stuck at trying to make technically perfect pictures that are boring and soulless. Flickr was the epitome of this back then with the famous "engineer hobby photographer" aesthetics

So you're telling me you have never heard the expression "the sky is blue"?

well, they are also cucks
they voted for a guy who is in fucking love with kikes

>ITT: Students of the Frankfurt school of (((art))) thinking they know anything

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why are women obsessed with that word?

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Leftism is always the cause of faggotry.

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just graduated with computer science. stay mad

Hm. Well, good thing they survived so people could realise he was full of shit.
Anything else? They were big piles, after all.

Holy fuck i would fug Picasso

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>What Nintendo the NintendoAmerica fuck NintendoEurope

What did he mean with this?

Beauty isn't the only part of art. See HR Giger. Do you want to call him a no talent hack?

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>look massah I said culture bad can I get some boots to lick now hmmmm o yes so good I am so obedient massaaaah

I'm saying it is dumb because the expression is wrong and is not true, when it is about things that are true

The word you are looking for is Avante Garde. They did this in response to the create of the photograph.

That's literally what a majority of the renaissance artists did. Religious artwork.

Art went to shit when artists took the easy way out and started drawing surreal bullshit.
True art died when Photography was invented

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>/pol/ is composed entirely of Am*ericans

Oh so you're a fucking idiot. Well that's nice to know.

>going into a field completely saturated with indians and chinese who will do your job for 1/10th of the wages

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pfffftttt HAHAHHAHAHAHA

Does the pope shit in the woods?

not him but yeah i'll call HR giger a no talent hack dude was just a big pervert big in both the sense of how much of a pervert and because he was a fat cunt

I disagree wholeheartedly. Not to mention the fact that photography in itself can be art.

Most people are today. It basically denotes a confident man that is genetically gifted. Most men today have a weird fixation with that archetype despite the fact that said archetype doesn't do anything to improve society. It's basically the highschool football jock that sleeps and destroy females mate bonding, causes some chaos in society then gets a somewhat or high paying job and do nothing else. This is what most men look up to these days.

dumbest post in the entire thread

If white trash don't want to be called white trash why do they act so stupid and trashy?

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And what is that faggot saying? How do you know, precisely? Has he ever said it himself or are you pushing the consensus interpretation of the artistic community upon his art? I see some malnurished skelly desperatedly but skillfully playing the toots because that's the only thing he knows how to do; his knuckles producing afterimages from the incredibly high speed of his play, yet it appears like he's clutching the final proof of his humanity. I'm drunk, don't pay heed to me.

Unironically you fuckers ain't got shit on based Marcel Duchamp

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>muh pol
Jesus christ, this is getting worse than Islam in the middle east holy shit.

>Missed the earlier /ic/ crossthread
FUCK. All I wanted to say is that I enjoy drawing but can't draw for shit. What is the secret? It's all about patterns and expectations, isn't it? Art is all over the place and I can't translate it yet.

Dali is the most well known surrealist painter and his surreal bullshit shows a mastery of technique. You're thinking of avant garde bullshit

>hey that's not true
>oh yeah well this expression is about things that are obvious and true
>but its referring to something that isnt true, how does that make sense
>Y-YOU'RE RETARDED

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>muh marxists
You're not the only one considering how many wives and partners he had.

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Indian saturation is an north american thing.
There's plenty of jobs elsewhere

No one's claiming that it is, but the intentional and persistent subversion of beauty in favour of postmodern bullshit is a massive problem. The fact that people keep trying to defend it is indicative of mass spiritual corruption.

Totem and Tabu is a good book, little zoomer.

VIDEO GAMES

You’re not going to find many artists that think the art market isn’t complete corrupt bukkshit.

Nothing can compete with Bosch. Literally 500 years ahead of his time.

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Oh, fair point then.

Just like anything else in life you have to practice at least two hours a day. No matter how much you think you suck you just have to continue to try to get better.

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Okay who started this shit? butthurt liberal arts majors?
Every single field is oversaturated but STEM is by far the easiest and safest way to get a job still.

>muh whites
level of black anger:
9-1) ooga booga it's pol's fault Im like dat

>I want a real game done in Beksinski's style.
Same

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Me on the bottom left.

This is what arguing with a postmodernist is like: a focus on semantics and vague bullshit to obfuscate the substance of things.
Same with art.

>subversion of beauty.
No it's just not beautiful. It doesn't have to be.

Never heard of Bosch before, thank user

nice perspective bro

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imagine being so delusional as to break people up in two camps Left and Right. Then state hyperbolic straw-man arguments .

You know there a different shades of Left and Right. Also isn't science the process of gathering empirical evidence more dominated by "leftist"

Go outside and talk to some people, it might do you some good mentally and physically.

You might like this then

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So wait, do you people like realism or not?

the perspective is literally worse than hitler

post-modern is a stupid buzzword. /pol/ is probably the biggest post modern place on the whole internet

Retarded to the extreme

>Bob Ross
Bitch, Bob Ross was the most normie and kitsch painter to ever exist. I dont care how good his ASMR was, he was shit.

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Such is life. Appreciated user.

I still think it’s perfectly valid to make art with a personal message, but what many artists don’t realize is their message does not matter once the painting goes public. Now the message is controlled by the audience, and if that message is not what the artist intended, then too bad, make another painting (this is coming from a painter btw)

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/pol/ definitely argues like that, though

>he was shit.
Prove it.

Why did you reply to and not

It's not about beauty of the depiction of the paint's theme, but about it's style, form and composition. How fucking retarded are to not understand this? Get the fuck off this thread.

>nigger leaves drowning niggress in the water to climb into a boat to fuck a white woman

What did he mean by this?

It's pretty obvious that "the sky is blue" is just common phrase for something that is always true. Are you not from the west?

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Have sex the left can't meme

is this an art thread?

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what's the deal with this guy and eggs

>western studio
>they acquire the rights to an old buggy game 10 years after its release and start updating it
>they do a pretty good job
>then they start making new dlc that are built into the main game, their features just arent usable unless you pay
>these dlcs are fucking awful
>they totally fuck everything in the game sideways
>missing textures, loot drops are fucked, new sounds are way too loud compared to the originals, slowdown and fps drops in a game from 2006 on an I7 and GTX Titan

I tried to play on an older version of the game before these garbage updates and steam auto updated the shit. Now I can't even play an older version in offline mode if I uninstall the update. They fucking took it out back and shot it.

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2deep4me

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Stop engaging with the retard.

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I can't tell if you're baiting or if you're actually this fucking retarded.

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Looks like something form /ic/

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Nice try, faggot. It accurately describes a prevalent pattern of thought and behaviour that's been eating away at culture for God-only-knows how long. And don't try to bring /pol/ into this to taint the conversation.

What the fuck was this guy's problem?

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They counted everyone who would fuck Poison

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>pragerU
is this a joke or something?

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reminder

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All art is not good art.
We can tell you're an insecure retard.

I wasn't talking about you, retard, I was talking TO you.

>Bob Ross
OH NONONONONONO

>giving up
Another tally mark for my arguments won. Damn, it feels good to be superior.

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>painting white on white
okay this is actually really good

youtube.com/watch?v=eVrYbKBrI7o

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yeah because posting frogs and mspaint comics is the traditional way of discussing things right.
the way /pol/ interpret things is the epitome of post modern

The artworld allows for such safe postmodern distancing.

Just like the treadmill fetishists need. Just as reduced lazy perverts spout when they're frantically trying to defend themselves against criminal prosecution. Grubbing job-hunting artists and art aficionados who prefer art that 'raises questions' are certainly as disgusting as those rubbered dilettantes who recognise that the answers are what you masturbate over.
Once you're out of elementary school, you can't appreciate mere questions. Unless, of course, you'd prefer to not acknowledge the responses that those questions produce in public.

>rabbit man at the bottom

THE WORK OF ONE WHO CONSORTS WITH BEASTS

how to spot a retard

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"It came into my head" isn't a meaning, no matter if you were dreaming at the time or not, retard.

That was a /pol/ meme in the first place, you missed the point retard. Lemme spell it out for you:

>blacks get angry
>immediately start breaking shit, assaulting people, shooting each other in the face over shoes

>whites get angry
>take it and repress it, seemingly like cucks, until it just builds up and suddenly a genocide happens for no apparent reason that nobody expected

wow that was one stupid doujin

That's a weird way of spelling El Greco

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Agreed. Bob Ross was talented in what he did, but what he did was completely devoid of anything interesting besides maybe thinking about paint as a material. He is only like one step up from Kinkade, whose content would make you want to kill yourself.

so, essentially, you're implying that art is an activity which allows people to channel all their stockpiled pain into, or in other words, it's a cathartic activity? Though I don't see how creating a picture could relieve you of your pain

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>abstract art is ug-

what did he mean by this?

>No one posted Henry Darger and his futa-lolis yet

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>It accurately describes a prevalent pattern of thought and behaviour that's been eating away at culture for God-only-knows how long.
At least 3000 years I'd wager

picasso just chooses to draw like that tho
he never gave two shits about painting realism

Motherfucker it’s probably in the top 25% of games at least.

You don't know what you're talking about, you think you do, but you don't. You're not clever or smart.

Quit your bitching snowflake. Don’t like it? Leave the country,

>Modern "art"
>Modern "education"
>Modern "music"
>Millenials
>Zoomers
>Entertainment brainwashing
>Vaccination
>Loss of religion
>Loss of values
>Loss of ethics

What a time to be alive?

>the virgin whiteoid
>the chad mediterranean

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“The next step is to introduce the idea of judgment. The belief that there is a difference between good and bad, meaningful and meaningless, profound and vapid, exciting and banal - this belief was once fundamental to musical education. But it offends against political correctness. Today there is only my taste and yours. The suggestion that my taste is better than yours is elitist, an offence against equality. But unless we teach children to judge, to discriminate, to recognise the difference between music of lasting value and mere ephemera, we give up on the task of education. Judgment is the precondition of true enjoyment, and the prelude to understanding art in all its forms.”

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I like weird and surreal art.
I just don't like art where even the artist doesn't know what the fuck his art is suppose to be.

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That doesn't make what he liked any less shit.

This can't be true. It would mean that the remaining 28% is all homosexuals.

Newfriend, are you okay? This is Yea Forums, the videogame board, and this is a stealth /ic/ thread. /pol/ is right around the corner, and inside your head too, it would seem.

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>Soutine
Based meat

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Not really when people are arguing over what art can and can't be.

>Loss of religion
Hey user, it's impossible to live your life by a set of dogma written in the bronze age.

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Show one of your paintings then, faggot

Fuck off boomer.

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my best friend's dad paints like Twonbly. I couldn't understand it either. Normally I would discount something like this and chalk it up to hivemind but this dude is like super fucking smart & not pretentious at all. He's just on a different level than me.

>political correctness
lol, opinion discarded
>Today there is only my taste and yours.
De gustibus non est disputandem

>(((Christianity)))

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Dear diary,
Today I learned that Code Geass didn't invent noodle people.

Mark Rothko is the most based artist

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>Modern "art"
>Modern "education"
>Modern "music"
>Millenials
>Zoomers
>Entertainment brainwashing
Bad things
>>Vaccination
what
>Loss of religion
That's a good thing.
>Loss of values
>Loss of ethics
That's very bad.

lmao /pol/ is like the jews claiming to be white when its beneficial

Why does art need to have authorial intent?

Good quote.

>doubling down on the /pol/ shit because his defense of disgusting modern culture hasn't a leg to stand on
Just means I'm right, thanks for conceding as much.

>a bunch of pedophile clergymen won't have authority on anything that matters anymore
good

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Art can be anything, but if there is no interesting thought or execution behind it, then it’s likely that that art is bad.

Esam is such a faggot. He could fuck a girl live on stream and still be a faggot.

>461898145
absolute madlad

>Expecting anything from a retarded leftard

good bait

You summed it up better than i would, thanks

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>>Loss of ethics
>literally millions of zoomers all preaching about no animal testing, going vegan and preaching to save the animals, reducing waste to save the planet

As a person under the age of 30 with a highly dubious grasp of ethics which borders on the sociopathic I'm actually in a minority.

WHAT IS IT ABOUT REPRESENTATIONAL ART AND NAZIS

Hypothesis: They gave good taste in art because unlike liberals they attach a high moral importance to aesthetics.

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It should be convenient to remember also why Greenberg (or one of the Whys) held Pollock so such a high esteem. When countered with socialist realism, for example (where kitschy crap was as much in vogue as in germany, slight changes) he considered the mundane peasant or illiterate to find more empathy with a painting of war than a cubist figure by Picasso. That empathy comes from recognition and a cultivated feeling of patriotism. I mean, there’s a million reasons to justify the ‘moral importance of aesthetic’ but I always keep coming back to Greenberg’s loathing of the possibility of empathizing with a fucking soldier in an overly-romanticized painting

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Positivist liberals tell you to forget any perspective you might hold in order to attain this hyper-individualistic subjectivity, the idea that any personal experience or concepts of beauty and order make you a closed-minded fascist. “Don’t think. Just experience,” they say. There is nothing transcendental or meaningful involved in art, and that is exactly why modern art is ugly or is just kitsch.

why are you so obsessed?

>Loss of religion
Unironically good
>Loss of values
>Loss of ethics
The opposite is true: more people are becoming conscientious, moral, ethical, vegan, community-oriented, empathetic.

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>bronze age
>not the stone age

Man, Durer’s studies were way more interesting than his actual paintings.

Fucking dumbass. Art evokes emotion and thought. You’ve probably consumed art forms that have evoked high levels of emotions and introspection in you but you’re too dumb to recognize that as what art is and too pretentious to realize the importance of emotional experiences in a life that would other wise be pure instinct.

That is why this art is neither enjoyable nor elevating, but as you rightly say a “scream.”
But a scream is always just that-a noise and not music.
— Carl Jung

You are such a dumb brainlet modernist that you can't fathom something else spiritually arising that can replace the old, but with more meaning and substance as a held belief of unification of a race/people. You can't see it, because you view religion from an atomized liberal modernist perspective. You yourself are old and boring.

Who says the sky isn't purple? How would a human with a very limited ability to see electromagnetic waves be able to tell what the sky looks like?

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No,but you should. You have a basic understanding of art and bad taste.

that's cool

So that it can be judged on more than its beauty?

holy shit you couldn't even think of O'Keefe? Or Georges Seurat? Or Hokusai? Or Monet? Or Edward Hopper?
Everyone is laughing at boss ross but you missed
>Toriyama
holy shit I almost spewed water from my nose.

>WHAT IS IT ABOUT REPRESENTATIONAL ART AND NAZIS

idk

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Probably they made a survey of a 100 people and got the number with that.

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Exactly. How many people today would be as willing to go to a public execution of some random nobody just so they could see them hang. Definitely some, but not as many as in the past.

Life isn't a support system for art, art is a support system for life.

That's how good art is made.

Creation with no intent can no more be called art than the shit your neighbors dog leaves on your front lawn.

Photography made art useless
There is literally ZERO value in doing something that is not REAL
I WANT TO KILL EVERYONE WHO EVEN TRIES TO IMAGINE SOMETHING IMAGINARY

I'm areligious and I can confidently state that loss of religion is not "a good thing". It keeps communities and people together, and enforces a baseline morality for a society. It's been a few decades at most since religion has died in the West, and look at the state of things.

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Those are false ethics.

I read that purple book as "brapping"

You don't need to know the intent for that. Read Barthes.

Look at how static and lifeless that is

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Because no one creates something worthwhile without intent. How could they?

You need to be 18+ to post here.

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>book burning barbarian.
Hi jew tranny
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_für_Sexualwissenschaft

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>be invigorated after finding some new masters in recent history
>look for why I haven't ever heard of them before
>find this

youtube.com/watch?v=9G8UfISpb0I

>jewish art dealers have been fucking us for generations
I can hardly believe we nearly lost centuries of classical art technique and history because of gaudy art shit was quicker to make and sell.

>How would a human with a very limited ability to see electromagnetic waves be able to tell what the sky looks like?
Because we defined purple ourselves in accordance with our perception.

hi tranny

>the only videogames are CoD and halo
based retard

Thr fact that literally all the retards except me who got triggered by a simple factual video proved that its true and all leftard are retarded.

Let me guess, you really like Rick and Morty?
One could say that you worship it?

that's the trick user
you remember and know about him because of it 47 years latter
not because he was a 10/10 realism painter, but because Picasso was the only one painting like picasso

I dont' even like his work, but his drive was stronger than the community standard, and pioneered an art movement, shit you may not like it but shitting on picasso it's just being ignorant

Communities don’t need to be based around religion. They can be anything. That’s why you have groups of people that are really into cars or sports or videogames. Community doesn’t have to come from a god, that’s just how it was in the past.

>reductio ad Hitler
Just gas yourselves already.

>pragerU

sasuga boomer

>WHAT IS IT ABOUT REPRESENTATIONAL ART AND NAZIS
>Hypothesis: They gave good taste in art
Immediate contradiction

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Hi.

little-known funfact: the CIA literally funded and promoted abstract art and artists to combat socialist realism

CIA sponsored exhibitions of Jackson Pollock's work in order to globally popularize abstract expressionism and devalue socialist realism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson_Pollock#Critical_debate

shitty modern art is literally a CIA psyop and the communists had that one thing right

So you're saying you can tell exactly what the artist was thinking about when he made the art. Are you a psychic?

Modern art was pushed by the CIA to counter the Soviets, actually.

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>Institut_f%C3%BCr_Sexualwissenschaft
Bullshit. Wikipedia is allowed to be edited publically: a university professor wouldn't accept it as a source.

Because you're simply a retarded nigger

>more people are becoming conscientious, community-oriented, empathetic.
Why would you lie like that? We're living in the most entitled, disconnected and narcissistic time in human history.

I don't need to tell the exact purpose of the artist, you illiterate faggot.

>ironically and intentionally draw so awfully that you start a cultural movement
Inspirational.

Fun fact: medieval executions started bloody, but then got changed to hanging, then drop-hanging, because the violence was negatively affecting the people watching it.
Fun fact 2: nazis figured out that torture doesn't work and their best "information extractors" instead pretended to be the lawyers working to free the prisoners of war. They genuinely befriended some of the prisoners and stayed friends after war.

Traditionalists - including Trump - are in many ways dumber and more edgy than medieval executioners and nazis.

Facts don't care about your perception.

really activates the almonds

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>It keeps communities and people together
This user understand >Also, i misinterpreted "religion" with christianism, not every religion is bad.

do you have any rope lying around?

>more choices = better game automatically
why are people like you so autistic? im not even kidding, you genuinely seem like an autist

>paint like an 8 year old
I don’t care for Picasso much, I don’t think he’s bad, his work just doesn’t give me much of a response. However, I know I would not be able to paint like him. You cannot paint like Picasso and neither can an 8 year old. His less realistic drawings are still very controlled and skilled. Believe it or not it does take skill to control everything from your strokes to your choice of colors to give his paintings the ambience they had.

It’s funny how it’s always people who don’t know jack shit about what they’re talking about that are the loudest. I thought the same thing until I actually opened up to art (in all forms) and stopped letting my ego judge art for me. When I came to Picasso I learned why he was unique and to be appreciated. All It took was letting go of pride and ignorance and new beauties of the world opened up. Maybe you should take a class or dabble in art yourself

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"fandom" isn't community, fucking zoomer. Jesus tapdancing Christ. And you're right: if there was something comparable to religion (like a pride in one's nation/ region that manifested as public spirit) then we'd have no need for it.
Today, politics and pop culture have replaced religion as the glue that holds groups together, and it's horrifying.

>people are becoming community-oriented
Lmao

Nigger what? They were still chopping people's heads with axes off in the 17th century.

Yes but it would still be art as long as the author declares it is.But it still pretty subjective that's why there aren't any standards.

There are things which cannot be defined in any other terms than subjective.

He was perfectly capable of painting realistically.

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Picasso looked like that when he was 90?

Also
>Porn
and
>Masturbation
But nofap is spreading and growing in popularity like a wild fire and is fixing all of that depravity already. Nofap movement is the first step, once porn addiction is gone all those other things too will start to take a turn for the better within 10 years.

Skyrim might be more your speed.

you did not answer the question

Explain the difference. Oh, that's right, you can't. Get out of my face, retard.

Has there ever been a game with a traditional Japanese artstyle?

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>Every next installment gets more and more abstract and experimental
spiels for this feel?

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>people who are into games are a community
What? Me and you are into games, you think I give a shit if you get brutally murdered and raped later today? Where's your "community"?

coping kike tranny

"Weapon" is a deceptively dramatic way to say they promoted American culture isn't it.

Preferring a good game over a shit game doesn't make someone autistic.

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Dali at his worst is far more interesting than Picasso at his best. And this is coming from somebody who despises Cubism and Surrealism.

children mentality it's good for you then
good luck with that

That's why I said he was intentionally drawing awfully. His knowledge and talent let him know how to make it as garbage as was possible.

>people fight for those of lesser races, despite lack of benefit for the fighters themselves
>the entrepreneurs though not their children donate massive amount of money to charity proven to work, for example Bill Gates funding contraception in Africa
>veganism, which is combined frugal living with genuine, practical empathy, is on the rise
You're romanticizing the past like a peasant who eats up what TV feeds him.
The past fucking sucked and people back then were more selfish than [insert meme generation that boomers hate].

>who despises Cubism and Surrealism.
Git gud.

I noticed a pattern that many incline and complex forms of art have been lost, the same way that really good animation guy went to a school and was horrified at the loss of art and technique from previews old school generation. Frank Frazetta and his ilk would've usher in a new generation, if not for what happened.

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It's almost as if they are trying to push a bit of an agenda to discredit modernist artists.

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Geoff?

What the fuck does this horrendous post even mean? Are you trying to be the Picasso of writing?

not being able to understand why your own perception is not universal is the definition of autism

It will never cease to amaze me how many conservative retards who know nothing about art are running around on this board

>only le me can objectively judge art with my superior smartbrain, libtards, you're just too dumb to realize it

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Super Mario Bros

Calm down left wing conspiracy theorist

So you're saying that the only way for someone to know if another person has intent, one must be psychic?
Yeah alright, fag.

>Wikipedia
Debunk'd.

I'd like to see Picasso speed run Mass Effect 2. I'm a gamer, not a painter.

dork soles

I literally am a working artist in vidya and I'm here to tell you modern art is nothing more than a financial bubble. But why listen to me when you can be a retarded faggot and feel smug about it

Any true Souls fan knows that Dark Souls 3 is casualized garbage, though.

Drophanging still happened, though.
It was developed to avoid having someone choke in front of people.
Also, guillotines were developed in significant part just to avoid the axe chop being so bloody and crude. The violence was minimized and made harder to reproduce by edgelords with axes.

For me, it's Umberto Boccioni

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and you are talking about taste on Yea Forums
just off yourself man you have garbage taste and btw "art" is a fucking joke lmoa.

>wah why ppl no lik my paint splatz on canvis u nazi

Cope.

But this is what you right wingers always do.
>article gets published
>see, this is proof "white genocide" is real

/pol/ is truly the niggers of Yea Forums

Because that guy should know better.

>artist
>in vidya
lol

Working with visual art does not make you knowledgeable about art as a concept or its history

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Yes good goyims, don't listen to PragerU. Go watch CNN instead.

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In Louis wain's case he became schizophrenic from living in cat shit.

Did you enjoy it?

This.

did you even see the first picture you replied to lmao

Buttblasted teenage art students ultramad people don't like their little scribbles itt.

How do you think I got that job, retard? Protip: artists go to art schools. If that doesn't make people knowledgeable about art then what does, arguing on the internet?

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>fell for the meme

I’m talking about people that get together twice a week to play street fighter or lan CSGO

He definitely consumed types of psychedelics.

But going to college and getting a degree in art would require hours upon hours of study in the field user. So actually it would.

Sounds like you are a some sort of fucking moron.

Frank Frazetta was 100x a better artist than the dadaist faggots and yes, I'm well aware that his art was commercial grade pulp.

>>>resetera

And you think there's more of that now than there used to be? Hah? Pretty much all of those IRL communities are dead.

You can't even paint like an 8 year old you pretentious faggot

Art museums have classic pieces permanently on display, they have a hall for rotating modern dogshit in and out of every month because no one wants to see your paint splattered into the shape of a cunt more than once.

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There’s more pointless than painting realistically after the advent of high quality photography.

triggered. no one likes your garbage non art

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>b-b-b-but YOU always do that!!!
But in this case you did it. Hmmmm almost as if you're trying to push a bit of an agenda to discredit right-wingers...

>getting a meme degree in arts
Lmao, people actually do this shit

So... this... is the... power of... modern art.... whoa...

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Anyone who has been here long enough hates this place and wants it dead.

you first

Well then the sky isn't blue.
>people fight for those of lesser races, despite lack of benefit for the fighters themselves
Who do you think you're kidding? There's lots to be gained from being a dumb cunt.
>>the entrepreneurs though not their children donate massive amount of money to charity proven to work, for example Bill Gates funding contraception in Africa
Oh so people lving in abundance give to others. Bravo I love sucking millionaire cock.
>veganism, which is combined frugal living with genuine, practical empathy, is on the rise
Veganism has nothing to do with empathy. Delusion is a powerful force and Vegans are deluding themselves into thinking they care.

>The past fucking sucked and people back then were more selfish
Yeah you're a fucking retard.

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this is actual autism

>hurr hurr art is only one way.

Imagine being this retarded on a subject that itself is abstract as fuck. Art =/= neo-classical Western European art.

>thinking a self portrait like the first one is anything special

>weeb faggot thinks he knows a shit about art
EVERY FUCKING TIME LMAO

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now you know why calssical music died

Progressively gained more Insight.

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>Well then the sky isn't blue.
The sky outside my window right now is very blue.

Even worse, he's a phone poster.

What intent is there behind still life or landscape painting besides depicting a scene through the artists style?

Art can be created with no specific intention in mind and people will derive intent from it nonetheless. Similarly, art is not diminished or devalued if it's created with intent but interpreted in a different way (e.g. fahrenheit 451 is widely believed to be about censorship when Bradbury's intent was to draw attention to the mindless consumption of mass media and detachment from life).

I refuse to let a shrew tell me what's good and what isn't. Pic related has done more for me than any Picasso shit has ever done.

People like Picasso made their mark by essentially shitting on the art of previous generations, politicizing it by claiming abstract art was good because you didn't need education to understand what it meant, and then cashing in on money-launderers and idiots who buy overpriced, manufactured art.

Here's why abstract is no longer necessary:

>Education is more available than ever, the internet exists, and people more than ever are familiar with whatever themes the artist is trying to tackle.
>Abstract serves no purpose in a world that's entirely materialistic.
>A new generation needs not be roped by the limitations of the old. In the same way abstraction shit on great artists for no reason other than jealousy, now it's the time they pay the same toll they forced.

It's the natural progression. Picasso is a piece of shit, and useless in the modern world.

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Are you art connoisseurs excited for the new and improved Notre Dame?

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>not a single valid argument, just angry cope and delusion
As expected from a subhuman with moronic worldview.
Cope harder, cope so hard that you get institutionalized

>muh photography
Using the same argument, there's no point in photos if you can just paint something. Surely painting a ship is easier than building it and taking a photo of it.

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there's no such thing as "objectively purple"

How exactly is hundreds of thousands of peoples lives being saved and turned around just a "meme"?
Do you have an answer or are you just another coping porn-puppet?

fucking kek

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The dadaists weren't making art, they were making political statements about the current state of art in the West. When Dali threw paint on a canvas and sold it for an astronomical amount of money, he was mocking how fucking stupid all the wealthy bozos surrounding art were, but that canvas wasn't art and it wasn't perceived as such by anyone with a clue. All of the equally rubbish crap the dadaists put out was essentially there to make the same statement, they were swindling the wealthy class out of their excess funds for being so god damn ignorant and having no taste whatsoever, because there's no correlation between taste and wealth.

The color purple corresponds to wavelengths of light roughly in the 380-450 nm range.

The sky changes color dozens of times literally every single day.

The old is on display because it has had the time to be seen as significant and canonized. The contemporary stuff is rotated because we’ve haven’t had time to see what really makes its mark yet. 100 years from now you’ll see some of that work amongst the canon, like just the vast majority of old works were tossed aside.

I think platinum was working on one, it's a mobile experiment tho.

>What intent is there behind still life or landscape painting besides depicting a scene through the artists style?
Oh man, ever heard of memento mori? Ever heard of the Romanticists? What intent is there behind still lifes or landscapes

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I've always liked how old Jap art is both cartoony but extremely detailed at the same time.

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Everytime some pretentious asshole posts this. This video makes 0 (zero) points.

>Art museums have classic pieces permanently on display.

This. Entering the NYC Museum of Art was an eye-opener. And to be fair to retards, Polynesian and South-American art was pretty good too.

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Picasso has mastered the art of traditional painting before he started to pursuit his own style.
You would know this if you were not a dumb nigger

seriously faggots like you are the exact same what you hate
>uneducated
>loud
>unwanted
>stir shit everywhere

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Okami you fucking retard

>roughly
tough luck, pal

>There's no meaning to something so subjective
Congratulations, you just discovered modernism.

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That actually sounds rad as hell and also in line with the mission of the Church. It looks elegantly incorporated into the existing structure, as well.

Cope.

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