Can we get a Grim Dawn/general arpg thread?

TQ feels almost identical to GD. If it was *just* the aesthetic in GD you didn't like, you might enjoy TQ but if it was gameplay related you're probably not going to really enjoy TQ either.

Is Forgotten Gods the last major expansion they're doing for GD? Are they going to be doing updates just for shattered realm now since that seems to be their answer to rifts/maps?

I dunno man, when I was playing Diablo 2 in high school, I remember having all these varied skills and it felt like I was doing all sorts of shit. When I played GD, it just felt like 1/2 skills and a shit ton of passives. Is TQ the same? I'd like to maybe play either some sort of archery based character, as I tend to shy away from mage characters in ARPGs. Do you think I'd like that? I also LOVE the look of the enemy designs in TQ, as I love the whole mythos aesthetic.

I'd also play TQ if it had a decent summoner character? I only had vanilla GD, and it felt a little lacking

I think you are remembering d2 with rose tinted glasses, or at least comparing casual d2 builds with focused/endgame GD builds.

GD has a lot of skills tied to components or higher level gear. Depending on the masteries too you may use more or less skills depending on how you build them.

Yeah that's totally likely. I did play Diablo 2 as an impressionable 15 year old, and I just kinda played an all over the place necromancer. 3 points in EVERY skill kinda thing.

My question still stands though, is TQ more varied? I mean I could totally get into it if the mythos aesthetic is super well done? I think the problem with us having the internet in our homes nowadays is that all the "good builds" are well mapped out and theorycrafted. Back in the LOD days you just kinda winged any build and talked about it on the playground.

Titan Quest's progression is really, really slow. The whole game feels stretched out, even when you crank up the game speed and the scenery changes are so gradual that you barely notice them.

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Still playing Occultist/Shaman summoner. Shit sucks. It's like, either shit dies (slowly) with no problems or I get oneshot by rushing mobs (fuck recasting auras and shit). I really need to work on stun resistance.

And since we are talking arpg in general, I'm starting to hate this genre. My first one was Diablo Hellfire (what a stinker that expac was) back in the days and I loved this genre ever since. But the more I play it, the more apparent to me its main flaw: characters. Ever since Diablo 2, which I've spent most time with, I though to myself "This is fine, but what about the other classes?" and I that's where I usually drop it until next time.
You invest in a character, you get dem phat lewts, do all the quests n'shit... And if you want to try different character, do it all over again, because you get a skill point from that quest and attribute point there and yadda yadda multiple times cuz difficulty level. Fucking waste of time.
GD tried to remedy it in the last expac (3 years after release) with those "savior's merit" or whatever consumables that you can give to your other characters and it will unlock final difficulty, skill and attribute points from quest on lower difficulty, but you still need to level manually.

Well games like Diablo etc. are essentially just casino looter clickers - you click stuff and then you hope you get lucky with loot.

It's quite different from actual skill based / story based ARPGs, such as Dark Souls or Nioh. Nioh actually does the diablo loot style, but way better, i.e. much less RNG dependency.

So ultimately it's normal that with increasing experience in gaming, you will graduate from looter clickers, to actual games. There is a reason why the average player age for Diablo and its clones is people in their teens and actual ARPGs average age is people in their mid to late twenties and older.

My Conjurer so so shit at summoning ijust remade him a vitality caster. Really fun killing shit with bloody pox and storm totems,
Made a new summoner occultist/necro and that worked x100 better as a summoner so id suggest that

Better than you'd think. Anybody know if Titan Quest has some unofficial, non-Big Picture controller support? ARPGs with gamepads are underrated comfy.

Anyone wanna do a new game and play all the way till the end of the Malmouth? I only played for a bit with the base game and never went far.

Because I obviously mentioned Diablo 3 in my post right? Delusional Grim Yawn tard.