PON

Tanyao
Chanta
Pinfu
Choitoi
Toitoi
Half Flush
Super Pinfu
Super Chanta
Super Toitoi
Full Flush
Supreme Goddess Chanta
Dark Overlord Tonyoa
Arch-Demon Lord Toitoi
The God Descends From Heavens Chanta
SSS PinTon Fuyoa
Three Suns Deluxe SSS+ Toitoi Revised
The Wind Beneath the Dragons Wings Toitoi Chanta

DE

Thanks to the guy who gave a suggestion. This is good.

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Stop memorizing "flush" and "half flush". It's honitsu and chinitsu.

Kekd

noob here, trying to make my first yakus

why is this not a good hand and why am i in furitzen ?

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who else /slump/ here?

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>194/200 for Novice 3
I'M GONNA MAKE IT LADS

>muh autism
get mad nigger
in english it's flush and half-flush, blatantly.

furiten means you have discarded a tile that would make your hand win. But for that hand the only thing you can go for is terminal or honor in each meld, so you would have to drop both the 2s and the 8m for a 1/9/wind/dragon pair

thanks user

Play with a chart open/printed out and keep looking through it to see what you can go for. You'll memorize them fairly quickly that way.
>no yaku
>waiting on a single tile
>furiten presumably because you discarded a 2 bamboo at some point
If any honor tile, or 1 or 9, comes your way, take that and drop the 2. If you can double up on any terminal/honor it'll be a yaku.

Question. What is that thing on the upper left corner of my screen? The one showing a single tile and four covered tiles.

How do they affect my game?

Anyone know how this game was built, or where I could find out more about it? I'm curious how they're drawing the entire game through the canvas object

>tfw third every fucking game

they are dora indicators

Dora indicator. You start with one open, and add another for each kan that happens. The next tile in the sequence of the indicating tile is worth bonus points. So if you have the four of bamboo up there, the five of bamboo is worth extra points for each one you get in your hand. Remember that these dora points stack, so if you had 3 tiles all the same after kanning a couple of times, you'd have 3 times the bonus points. For convenience, any tiles worth at least one dora shine. Also, bear in mind that if one tile is in the dora indicator, it's one less you could potentially draw.

tfw ron'ing the same turn someone riichi's

post em

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You don't translate stuff like pinfu ot tanyao and there's no reason to rename honitsu and chinitsu either. It's just a made up terms nobody uses. You should be able to memorize the correct word, it's not that hard.

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pure luck and defense, no skill

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Okay, so basically its bonus points that is getting triggered, but they don't affect my ability to complete a hand?

Are the tiles in the dora indicators drawn from the pool (meaning that there's like only 3 in the pool if one is in the indicator)?

Yes and yes.

what yaku are you going for when you have no wind or dragons tiles?

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Thirteen orphans.

So can you lose ranks or do you just keep going down to 0?

Alright, then I know how to play around that thing as well

tanyao 1000 points

I go for riichi and pray someone kans and they do

open tanyao

Pinfu. Even if I have dragons or winds, even a pair, even a pair of my/round winds, chances are I'll be discarding them and going Pinfu. During the whole process I'll be laughing at brainlets who don't discard honors before terminals and any other useless tiles.

Pinfu is the God and Savior of all Mahjong players. You should let it into your heart and your soul before it is too late and you are way too lost to all the sinful yakuhai calls you've made throughout your life.

Are there any pro players that always keep their hand closed? I am just curious jf jt's possible to play like that.

osamuko.com/top-10-hands-you-should-re-memorize-if-you-ever-lose-your-memory/
It should get you far enough to avoid No Yaku

Based Nyagger

It is fun to pull that shit when someone is obviously going for a flush though.

i cant understant pinfu guys

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I could never manage to get even a half flush. It just avoids me for some reason.

concealed sequence only and a pair

arcturus.su/wiki/Pinfu
Closed hand, all sequences, plus a pair, and your final wait has to be open, so no 5-7 waiting on a 6, but 5-6 waiting on a 4 or 7.

all sequences, the pair is any tile that has no value in a trio so winds that are not the round or seat wind are ok, then the wait is on 2 sides, no middle or edge wait.

>no triples
>no wind of your seat or round wind
>closed hand
>your last wait has to be one of two different tiles, not just one (such as having a 1 and 2 and waiting on a 3)
gratz you are now pinfu master

It's not just possible, it's default for them to aim for riichi.

Hey you
yes you the one doing a pair wait
stop that

>*gets raped into negative points by a sanbaiman*

thank

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no

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How can I set "auto call win" to be activated by default? It keeps turning itself off after every round. And yes, fuck getting your Ron stolen by some filthy catnigger calling Chii or Pon.

This is wrong, ignore this one

The last point is a bit misleading.
If you have 5557 and wait for 6 and 7, this won't be Pinfu - you wait on 2 different tiles, but the wait isn't Ryanmen.

But if you have 5556, for instance, while all other tiles form 3 sequences, and then you win with 4 or 7, this will be pinfu, because it forms a pair of 55 and (4)56(7) - the ryanmen wait. You still can win with 6 in this example, and then it won't be pinfu.

nice kans, hag

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>And yes, fuck getting your Ron stolen by some filthy catnigger calling Chii or Pon.
That can't happen. If someone can ron a tile, it won't let a pon or chi call go through until you click or decline ron.

>fuck getting your Ron stolen by some filthy catnigger calling Chii or Pon.
You can't get your ron 'stolen'. Ron takes priority over Pon, which in turn take priority over Chi. If you try to make a chi, but someone still hasn't decided whether he wants to take pon, you'll see the game stop for a while to wait for his decision. And then he can press pon and also have to wait for a bit because the third guy has been keeping the timer ticking before he called ron on the last second just to fuck with everyone's minds.

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What did she mean by this?

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Well, there was a last minute haneman on hell wait, but luckily, I defended sufficiently and it was some chink who got the short end of the stick.
I can get demolished by big boys now.

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>adept
>big boys

congrats

Well, middle boys.

middle boys is gold

"boys"
FUCK I'M JUST GLAD TO GET OUT OF THE CHII-NESE HELL

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Silver is just another circle of hell. With all the nyagger on nyagger combat in bronze some of them will manage to climb and pollute silver.

So is the English Client laggy fore anyone else?
SEA by the way

fug

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Anyone want to play?
mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=19995

One slot left.

someone explain to me how these threads are the most popular threads on Yea Forums right now

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I don't believe you. There's no way a video game thread is popular on Yea Forums

They aren't even top 8 so take your autism and shove it up your ass.

>Get last because I fucked myself with open hand
>Decide to never open hand again
>1st, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 1st
Who here /neveropen/

oh yeah was gonna attach this

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There's literally no reason to not open your hand if you have more than 1 dora

>no porn
Shit game

Y'know what
I'm gonna quit
I'm too dumb for this game

if you have a bunch of dora why would you open your hand? just pinfu on turn 5 and collect your free points

post total games played and rank pls

Chi nya, pon nya, chi nya, pon nya, pon nya, kan nya, kan nya, 4th place nya

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>he didn't grasp the nagare

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>in gold room
how

There's a lot of bullshit in gold room.

6777 gave better wait and it's not like you have to close your hand for chinitsu.

how the FUCK do I pinfu?

Apparently closed hand doesn't exist for him,

Good game, really got me sweating

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Majsoul Friends Room 25663(4-Player South): mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=25663
All standard setting.

>nyanned.com

3/4 wake up lads.

>drops two man doras when the cat is clearly hoarding man tiles
dumb hag

I don't know how to play defense, but yeah, made so many dumb mistakes

In the slight possibility that someone called codesonic is in this thread, screw you.

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Based retardposter

where are the rooms @

>tfw got to experience not being a shitter for one round

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>forever stuck at novice 3

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noobs and tryhards welcome, south, all default
28423

Is it too much being double ronned this maid had to do this in revenge? Crazy second place had less than 3000 points.

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nice

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your big

pls respond
2/4

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Closed hand and you need to have wait on both sides of the last set.
No dragon or wind pair.

I keep fucking up pinfu by going to hell wait and then remembering that I just fucked up.

Replay link onegaishimasu

>cant win any hands all day other than some shitty cheap 1000-3000 shit
>shitty draws non stop
>finally get a great starting hand for kokushi musou
>go for it
>1 tile off, just need a north wind (i'm north so its not anyone elses seat wind)
>it never shows up
the game is just fucking taunting me at this point making fun of my lack of luck
i hate this game man

3/4
need one more nyagger

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the game went to ryuukyoku too so its not like someone else just won first
FUCK

>>cant win any hands all day other than some shitty cheap 1000-3000 shit
That's because you don't riichi

i do but i get no dora, cant turn the hands into tanyao or chanta
i literally have no luck at all

>furiten

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(You) can't make pinfu.
(You) can't get out of furiten.
(You) can't make closed hand.
(You) can't pass on kan.
(You) can't make chitoitsu.
(You) can't switch to betaori.
(You) can't stay damaten.
(You) can't get out of bronze/silver.

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>bronze room
No shit sherlock, japs don't waste time in low rank rooms where only weebs play.

riichi pinfu tanyao and red 5s will get you nice 8000 wins

the wins were all riichi pinfu, just riichi, yakuhai once
i think i need to just give up on the game unless there is a way to improve your luck

PON, PON, PATA, PON!

Riichi pinfu + doras comes naturally if you just build hands normally

Can you show at least one of your games? I'll try to help as much as i can.

not for a lucklet like me
no dora

Luck (or lack of) can only last so long, it's more likely that you build your hands too slow so nyaggers win before you can

Same, lost all night. Shouldn't have been drinking.

maybe later on im too mad right now gonna do other stuff
thanks for the offer anyway

GG, nice dealer repeats there.

Added event yet?
Added daily roll yet?
Added login reward yet?

That’s funny almost every game I play in bronze room is populated entirely by moon rune nyaggers

Chink runes != japs runes.

Did you check the replay? Kokushi is really easy to read because you're holding on to so many terminals and honors. It could be someone had a closed triplet of north, looked at your discards, realised he couldn't see any other north on the table, shat himself a little and held onto them for dear life.

please understand.

Just mark the safe route with your saliva.

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You don't really get to do that I think, only watch how things are set up

that riichi froze the game

what in the absolute fuck are those draws, it's like heavens wanted him to win this.

Room: 11707
Anyone up for a game? Standard settings, East-South round.

One more!

>Every single tile drawn is a relevant honor including two rinshan draws
>Triple yakuman on the sixth turn

Great job asshole, I'm pregnant now.

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>That feeling when you brutally steal a mangan riichi from nyagger with 1 han (seat wind)

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Just got into the Silver room and even if my hand is good and I place an early Riichi with a 3 sided wait ill just get RONd by some other faggot on the top deck every time. Fuck this.

How about not going to riichi?

>Guy Kans
>Dora revealed is something i've pon'd
>His next turn I ron him

I feel bad but it serves him right for being a filthy nyagger

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>all last in 2nd place
>1st place is discarding safely against my riichi
>he deals into a mangan hand from 4th which puts me into 1st and 4th place into 2nd
outplayed

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kan-shitters deserve everything they get

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>be tokujou player
>be in tenpai with open hand
>guy calls riichi
>draw the tile I need for a kan
>alright i have a good 6-9m wait, I'm sure I'll win this, KAN
>draw 6p
>get ronned
fuck you too

Is South or East better for climbing ranks?

3/4!

Being good is better for climbing ranks
South has less rng

I'm really glad I've given mahjong a try, shit's addictive

Nigger:
>Call kan only if you are the only one in riichi/tempai
>Dont call ron if more niggas are close to winning.

You want the most draws if you are the only one, but the least draws if you arent

>kanning in silver room

SSTOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

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i was tenpai and thought i had the better wait so i really felt this 6-9m was coming but the opposite player had a 9m triplet so rip

I just had one where the guy went down to 100, hilarious stuff

>Dont call ron if more niggas are close to winning.
What

I got hit hard the first two rounds, the worst part is that I had a good hand in both

Only if those kans gave Dora

gg, everyone.

Second last game. To the guy who was holding a pair of 6-man and 4-pin.
Why didn't you declare tsumo upon drawing another 6-man? After that, you also didn't ron when the 4-pin was discarded. Didn't seem like you were in furiten.

Kan, sorry im sleepy

Because that's faster. If you don't open your hand in that situation and then get fucked by a yakuhai cat you've got nobody but yourself to blame.

Did he have yaku?

Reminder to always do the opposite of what Yea Forums says.

novice 1: pon and chi are the foundations of mahjong
novice 2: pon and pon are the foundations of mahjong
novice 3: that one lucky haneman i got is the foundation of mahjong
adept 1: pon and chi are the foundations of mahjong
adept 2: open tanyao and dragons are the foundation of mahjong
adept 3: tanyao and pinfu are the foundations of mahjong

what next?

that just means that there's no new players
it launched the same time as the EN server did and it's already failing to catch the attention of fresh blood

Unless I missed something, he should.

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you missed something

Or that most of them are already promoted to adepts and now in silver room.

>that one lucky haneman i got is the foundation of mahjong

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betaori is the foundation of mahjong

I couldn’t turn the table with that hands. made a mistake eating the pin.

That's what tokujou players would say but then houou players would push like crazy sometimes

it doesn't matter if the week 1 players have promoted
if bronze room is dead then that means that no new players are coming in

I'm trying to achieve mahjong zen but my heart rate goes up whenever I riichi.

He has the round's wind. I guess he didn't declare a win because he'd stay second anyway? But that's pretty dumb with a furiten and 3 tiles left

expert 1: pinfu is the main foundation of mahjong
expert 2: it's better to keep dragons and good winds in case a pair shows up, better to first discard terminals
expert 3: tile efficiency is the main foundation of mahjong, better first discard dragons and winds than even lone terminals

master 1: tile efficiency and pinfu are the main foundations of mahjong, even pairs of dragons and winds should fuck off because they lock your hand in a cheap state unless you have doras or honitsu
master 2: damaten is the main foundation of mahjong
master 3: please don't damaten sanbaiman ron me at 3rd turn chink-sempai ;_;

Ah, fair enough. Thanks for answering.

what is betaori

abusing the furiten rule

giving up on building a winning hand and just discarding safe tiles aka folding

so just getting into tenpai asap?

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Where do you see that it's gold room?

oh i do that all the time anyway

top left

>By employing betaori, a player has abandoned all hope

below the dora indicator box

Being a beta and folding

>By employing betaori, a player has abandoned all hope
That's me every game.

playing naked is the true foundation of mahjong

>expert 2: it's better to keep dragons and good winds in case a pair shows up, better to first discard terminals
>expert 3: tile efficiency is the main foundation of mahjong, better first discard dragons and winds than even lone terminals
I'm currently in between these two lines of thought. I'm trying to go for max efficiency but I also would ALMOST rather discard both 1 and 2 over a lone dragon because I have far too much experience with getting cucked by edge waits.

>ATK
>DEF
>SPD
>LUK

Mahjong is an RPG?

Someone who has to ask permission to fuck pigs

>tile efficiency is the main foundation of mahjong, better first discard dragons and winds than even lone terminals
Shitty terminals waits are worse than trying to get a dragon pair.
Better bet on riiching that sweet dragon wait for an additional han than riichi only with 98 waiting on 7.

Magic stat when? Skill system when?

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Back to /vg/

how do you know what good starting hands are to go for specific winning hands like 13 orphans / chitoitsu / daisuushii / toitoi etc?
i remember reading something someone posted about toitoi where if you have 4 pairs in the first 6 turns and they are honor / edge tiles or close to edge (e.g. 88 99 north) it can be a good hand to try to get toitoi but i was wondering if there was similar resources for other hands

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>Back to /vg/

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>13 orphans
2 shanten hands

>daisuushii
>you'll never make it
surely if you started with 2 of every wind you would try to get it no? im asking what kind of hand you would need to start with to make it worthwhile or realistic to go for
>read the flow
what does this even mean
i didnt mean only those hands also i just mean in general, it could be for any possible hand

>13 orphans
Lots of terminals.
>chiitoi / toitoi
First, you need lots of pairs. Then check those pairs
>middle pairs, adjacent pairs (4455, 6677, etc) -> try getting iipeikou instead and make normal hand.
>separated pairs but with secured yaku and/or good amount of dora -> toitoi
>none of the above -> chiitoi

~7-8 tiles of one family and a few honors makes for a nice honitsu (half flush), unless the other family tiles make for good two-sided waits (in which case you should probably keep them)

Not many terminals? Try tanyao

Most of the time? Pinfu, or anything that lets you riichi.

Lots of terminals? Junchan (terminal numbers in every sequence) can be a good try. Especially if you can make it worth it. Remember, open junchan alone is worth 2 han (~2000). If one of the doras is a terminal, you can probably easily make it worth 3 han (3900~) which is good. Same if you can make a sanshoku (complete 123 or 789 for each family).
Best case scenario: open junchan + 1 dora + sanshoku. 4 han, 8000 points.

But really if you don't have a particular yaku in mind (like honitsu, toitoi, junchan), keep it closed and efficient, make a riichi. It'll most likely have pinfu too (because pinfu is what most efficient hands get) or a dora, making it worth it.

how many is lots though?
thanks

brainlet here, how am I in furiten here?

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13 orphans can be considered with 9-10 terminals. With 9 you're most likely better restarting the round and hoping for a good hand, 10-11 gives you okay chances of completing it.

But don't bother too much with the yakuman

the game still isn't out on mobile is it? I imagine most people will play there.

discarded a 9 and 456 55 78-waiting on 9 is a possible hand

nigga put mahjong in the title

Majsoul Friends Room 62165(4-Player South): mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=62165
Let's go lads.

4-5-6p 55p 7-8p waiting for 6,8 p

You've got yourself a pretty neat wait that involves 9, which you discarded.

4555678 can wait on 3 (345678, 55), 6 (456678, 55), 9 (456789, 55), or 4 (44, 555678)

>surely if you started with 2 of every wind you would try to get it no? im asking what kind of hand you would need to start with to make it worthwhile or realistic to go for
It depends, realistically you can get shouu suu shi and that's it. You just need a lot of winds obviously, sometimes you have to hold your pons to collect more wind tiles, ideally you want to have 3 pairs and 1 of i guess.
>what does this even mean
It means you should observe the game and determine if it's a good time to go for chitoitsu. You can have 4 pairs from the start and never make it because the flow is favored for shuntsuba while you need toitsuba. On the other hand even 1 pair can be enough to know that you should go for chitoitsu.
>i didnt mean only those hands also i just mean in general, it could be for any possible hand
In general go for mentanpin unless you have a good chance to make something else.

>try to make pinfu for two entire games
>never even once happens

>unless you have a good chance to make something else
thats what i was asking though, how to know if you have a good chance for something else

>tfw can't even into mahjong just paying with you faggots is fun

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>It means you should observe the game and determine if it's a good time to go for chitoitsu. You can have 4 pairs from the start and never make it because the flow is favored for shuntsuba while you need toitsuba. On the other hand even 1 pair can be enough to know that you should go for chitoitsu.
Please no one listen to this retard

>Try to play the game
>Have no idea what I'm doing
>Have sequences and pairs in my hand
>Nothing ever happens
>Click the pons and stuff when they pop up
>Lose to 3 easy AI

RIP

Yea Forums mahjong guide 1.01

>what hand should i go for?
pinfu

exceptions: there are no exceptions

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Reading the flow isn't exactly an exact science. I'm not saying you shouldn't sometimes take a statistically weird decision (like going for chiitoi with 2 pairs, aka very bad odds) based on your instincts, but that's the exception.

You gotta learn the rule so you can know when to break them and what the exceptions could be.

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So how do you get to draw for waifus? Should I just accept nyaggerdom?

thanks bros

u need yaku

Don't open your hand (ie. call) until you've learned the values of the different hands you can make. As long as you keep your hand closed, you'll always at the very least be able to announce a riichi will give you a legit winning hand, although it'll probably not be worth much if you don't know what you're doing.

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>Please no one listen to this retard
Instead people should listen to a person who doesn't have any counter arguments and throws out random insults.
You have to memorize all yaku and gain experience. Mentanpin is like half of your games anyway. There are no clear patterns, you need to make this decision by yourself.
It's not about instincs when people just keep throwing pairs into their discards. Doesn't take a scientist to determine what's going on. That's what i meant by "reading the flow". That way you're statistically more favoured to make pairs or triplets so you can try chitoitsu or maybe suuankou.
>You gotta learn the rule so you can know when to break them and what the exceptions could be.
There are many exception to everything and i bet it will take a lot to describe them. You can only hava a general tips from people here, we are no pros.

>play a traditional game in a video game form
>expect it to play like a modern video game aka play itself and hand you the victory automatically
why you do this
if you played mahjong with actual real life tileset, you wouldn't act like this

>Don't have enough money for silver room
Guess I try again tomorrow....
Wish it didn't cost money

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461891437
>suuankou
Sanankou, yakuman is a rare case.

GGs everyone!
might make another lobby later

>nyaangan

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Did you claim your welfarebucks already?

That's a good advice. New people should learn to stay calm, composed and not go for every chi or pon with or without need.

nya is love, nya is life.

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Yeah....
I was really unlucky this morning.

How come? Were you the one who spent copper on gifts?

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I DIDNT KNOW OKAY

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Daily reminder that if you play a nyagger you deserve all the loses you get.

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suck my dick, hag

I am not having fun anymore. Please move these threads to /vg/ so that I do not have to look a them.

>seething hag poster

When are uradora actually checked?

>not using a filter

After somebody wins with riichi

cat has better emotes
It's just that simple

when someone with a riichi wins

Thanks

I do not want others to like things I don't. Stop having fun.

It's ok once you get out of bronze you can start earning other characters and you don't have to justify being a Nyagger

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>I do not want others to like things I don't. Stop having fun.

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Is this true or a meme? Haven't managed to get pinfu in 30 games.

The fact that you list the most irritating (to the point of tilting my game because I can't think about anything but my burning rage and hatred) character as god tier makes your opinion invalid even if some parts of it would've been otherwise more or less correct.

i want yui so bad

GIVE PLEASE

>that double ron
Oof

is that amae koromo

>Earning other characters.
No luck so far
I want yui because it's cute when she calls pon

It's her secret twin sister.

Why do games against the AI end so fast while games against real players last for over 1 hour?

Learn tile efficiency, then. Discard all dragons and round/seat winds ASAP, before touching the lone terminals. Once you're done with them, locate at least 5 forms in your hand with at least one of them being a well-defined pair. From that, make that evaluation every turn, whenever you get a 14th tile, check whether it impoves one of the forms, and don't be afraid to dismantle and discard some forms that you have in favor of new ones. Pinfu is pretty much the most easy to tenpai hand because it literally builds itself.

we are more stupid

because real people sit on their draws for 30 fucking minutes before discarding what they literally just picked up and had nothing to do with their hand.
>oh jeeze, i'm south in east... i wonder if this single west wind will help me put my tanyao together
Fuck off chink scumbag piece of shit god fucking damnit I hate you

STOP
KANNING
YOU
FUCKING
CATS
ARRRRGH

I bet AI can get to a gold at least.

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>game opens
>get the option to draw with the fourth same wind tile
>look at my garbage hand
A draw it is.

Statistically pinfu is as likely as tanyao to come out, even in nyagger mode.
TL image
>riichi
>red dora
>dora
>tanyao
>pinfu

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I have used a program to test efficiency and already have consistent 95%. It just feels like I'm sitting in 4-sided or multiple 2-sided waits every game and get cucked by cats.

Unless you literally need to have 100% efficiency all the time to even pass bronze.

RINSHAN KAIHOU BITCHES

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>chinks keep grabbing rounds with 1 hans
>be in fourth place because couple bad deals
>last round RNGesus gives me amazing hand from the start
>riichi motherfucker
>bug men deal right into it
>1st place
Take that you chinese little shits

this but they cuck me with another 1000 point win before i can

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ANY ROOOOOOMS?

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>Discard all dragons and round/seat winds ASAP, before touching the lone terminals
not really, fuck terminals.

every time i try to make hands i get cucked by some retard spamming 1000 point hands, so i have to be an open hand nyagger

Win streak for 5 games and now losing streak for 3...

>ippatsu nearly 10%
I'm pretty bad at math but somehow this feels really off to me

I made it out of bronze! But I have a question: if your points get low enough in adept will they kick you back out? Or am I permanently safe from bronze hell?

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Sometimes people make ippatsu tsumo, which is why you'd usually chi the riichi tile to cut it off.
Sometimes people push and get ippatsu ronned (or they're in riichi and can't defend anymore)

10% is still seems hella high with how many tiles there are that you can draw

>call tiles
>looks like an obvious honitsu
>it's actually faux honitsu with a hidden off-suit dora pair

>call tiles
>looks like an obvious tanyao
>it's actually a single yakupai waiting on a terminal

>get into tenpai by turn 7
>riichi
>it's actually just a naked riichi

who /devilish/ here

With a double-sided wait, you can win on 1/17 tiles. If you don't count the honors, you can win on 1/13 tiles. Add in the fact that you have not only your draw but also other people's discards for the ippatsu turn and you get to somewhere near 10%.

Majsoul Friends Room 33137(4-Player South): mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=33137
No tips
No red doras
3+5s
Mad lads, get in.

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bronze isn't hell. you're actually descending into it as you climb up the ranks.

silver is true hell

>called a dragon, tenpai waiting on 2-5s
>guy riichis
>draw 6m, seems super dangerous
>discard 4s to fold instead
>other guy riichis
>draw 4m, have to push not 100% safe 3s
>push it, now in tenpai again waiting for 5m
>other guy in riichi immediately deals red 5m
>8100 for pushing
>look at the replay
>he was actually waiting for 6m and would have ronned me if I had discarded it

Who /ultrainstinct/ here?

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God I wash I can chankan one of these nyaggers someday.

>Not just calling it "DOUBLE NYAGGER"

That's great and all but I'd like to retain my ability to choose what hell I put myself through. So is there a possibility of me getting booted back to novice or not?

>bronze problems need bronze solutions
was he right, Yea Forums?

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>Keep getting into Riichii early with good waits.
Open hand nyaggers keep fucking ronning.
I fucking HATE this game.

>Have a honitsu 4sided wait
>my wifi receiver fucking dies and I have to restart my computer

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thanks for the riichi stick, hag.

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>not really, fuck terminals.
Enjoy your Expert skill ceiling.

>Unless you literally need to have 100% efficiency all the time to even pass bronze.
If you're in bronze, forget about any theory, jump into tonpuusens and nyagger away. Seriously. When I started on MJS, I tried playing the way Tokujou lobby on Tenhou taught me, and got consistent 3rd place against nyaggers in full Hanchans. Once I went full retard mode, I was in Silver in a matter of several hours. Silver is still full of raging retards, but Gold is slightly better - it's somewhat below the level of Tenhou's first dan lobby. But starting to play like a sensible person, expecting other players to be at least somewhat sensible, gives immediate results in Gold.

>wants to play
>my internet is being an absolute nigger
It hurts bros.

IT KEEPS HAPPENING. IVE LOST 3 K POINTS FROM THIS.

lost my yakuman virginity, ending hanchan in east 3

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>Enjoy your Expert skill ceiling.
Tokujou 5d 1950R actually

Grats dude

I kept trying to pull this off last night but ended up folding or going for seven pairs once I saw opponents discard two of the tiles out of the few pairs I had left in my hand

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I SAID GET IN
OR IS THAT TOO FAST FOR YOU?
1/4

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>going for seven pairs
i fall back to that way too often

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Didn't expect that the way to avoid playing against retards was to become one yourself.

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>No tips
>No red doras
>3+5s
gonna have to try a little harder than that, my dude.

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At least 7 pairs allows you to defend somewhat

any rooms?

Yeah that's merely the way you beat retards in every strategy game ever made. Shocking!

I just wanted to play like in real life.
Fine, here's one with standard rules: mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=51117

Playing while crossplaying as the characters is the hidden god level foundation of mahjong, especially as the character you use.

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>In real life.
Bro, people take time to analyze ponds and shit IRL.
The fuck you on about.

>tfw riichi tanyao pinfu
At last I see

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Get in here. Hanchan, 4 red dora, otherwise standard settings.
#26658
mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=26658

3/4

Well I watched those tournament streams and people take three seconds at most to make a discard.
And I assume it's not like in Akagi where every discard takes 10 pages.

>player riichi's on the 4th turn
>fuck it, my hand is terrible, there's no way I can build anything safely, time for betaori
>why do the dangerous tiles keep pairing?
>fucking stop, I'm trying to fold here, why am I in 1-shanten for chiitoitsu?
>why am I in tenpai?
>why did I get a ron off 1st place with 2 dora?

I can't fucking do anything right.

Useless discards take 1-2s, sensible discards (midgame) can take 5, 10, or even sometimes 30.

2/4

>East: 434
>South: 212
I should probably just stick to south rooms while I'm still in bronze.

If there is heaven then i will be there playing mahjong for all eternity

yeah, maybe if they're shit discards at the beginning of a game when you can instantly recognize useless tiles.

Chitoi is pretty much the only way an early betaori can end up tenpai. Don't underestimate it, but don't expect it either.

Don't forget to turn on a song like to somewhat help.

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F L O W
L
O
W

I'm seeing everything in terms of tile efficiency. Wednesday-Thursday has a good wait pattern. Help me

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>6 tiles left
>still hit that sweet free sex button

Never mind, I got a tsumo haneman anyway. Didn't know thatr happens if you disconnect.

I believe that is a bit of a generalization, but I'll take your word for it. Not gonna get out of bronze anytime soon if I don't change my strategy anyway.

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good job talktocat gg

Reminder to not pon the first dragon/wind you see for it could be a great defensive tile later on or a good closed riichi hand for better value.

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>tfw can never win last round's drawn riichi sticks

I want my free sloppy seconds, dammit.

Noob here. Why should I ever pon a wind that's not mine or the play one if I don't have other dragon/yaku wind at hand?

Telegraphing you're going for a quick yakuhai hand is a good way to make everyone else rush if you're already leading and you want small dick hands.

you can't quit the game, you play on auto discard, auto win call mode if you close the tab.

tiles left
are you saying that's not many? i'll hit riichi when there's at least 3 left
i don't give a fuck

You shouldn't, unless you're making a yaku with that wind, like honitsu (half flush), toitoi (all pons), or more rarely, chanta.

gg brehs

Honitsu, maybe. You shouldn't most of the time.

I play the game for the game and not because I need a skinner box, thank you very much.

jesus fucking christ i'm having the worst fucking luck of my life today.

I was trying to learn mahjong while playing it in Judgement. I fucking read rules in game, outside of it on sites etc.

Can't fucking get riichi once. I gave up. Dunno what am I missing.

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Hehehe, I just won a match in the stupidest way possible. There was this one guy calling cheap hands the whole match and out of bad luck I ended up being down 15000 points on the last round. Well I finally get a decent hand with the potential of a mangan with 2 dora so I end up declaring richii. On the first go around the guy to my left randomly decides to kan and reveals 2 more dora for me, my hand ended up becoming a baiman and I won the entire match by 1000 points lol.

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>Get up to 150 points
>back down to 80 after 3 unfortunate matches

I'm never gonna get to Adept at this rate.

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How are people getting f2p summon rolls? I've been playing for a couple weeks and only have ~25 dust or whatever it is.

>tfw no 8p for sanshoku
Well, still baiman

>Keep getting free sex early.
>Nobody drops my tile
>Dumb fags keep winning with open hands.
Yeah,. my luck is pretty bad today too.
I lost 4 k points just from riichii alone.

Adjusting your strategies/tactics depending on the player(s) you're facing is how you reach divinity.

post log

as far as i know the fastest way to do it is spam east games in highest rank you can get to to open boxes, then dust the gifts

There were some valuable gifts to claim as an apology for a server issue

just play in higher ranked matches

I have more chantas than toitois on my record. How do I gain the courage to pon?

Sure thing

Mahjong Soul Game Log: mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?paipu=190512-5c820166-fa24-4db7-b0ae-0a83b57b0442_a925588170

does anyone have a yaku chart that actually has ALL the yakus?

check your pairs and the other ponds to know if you're more likely to pon those tiles you need than see another person riichi before you (so if they start throwing strong tiles like 34567 and or doras, they might be close to tenpai)

also consider what toitoi will leave you to defend with. It's not so dangerous if you have a closed triplet of good defense tile in your hands (like three dragons) that you could throw to defend once somebody riichis. If necessary you can delay a honor pon to keep at least 2 good defense tiles (that you might pon or draw yourself later)

It's a pretty subtle mix between danger assessment and how fast your hand can be. But never toitoi without at least one other han (dora, dragon)

Everything you need to know is there

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mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=80627

Standard south rules. Theme is mahjong induced sleep deprivation.

how does the point deduction system work on tsumo?

thanks

someone post the chart with the intermediate player hole, i need to check where i'm at

i hate this entry fee system
even if im doing well and getting only 1,2 and 3 place im still losing money

Same amount as regular hands shared between all three other players. Dealer pays twice the amount.

So 8000 is divided as 2000+2000+4000.
If a dealer wins, each player pays the same, so in the above example, it's be 12 000 divided into 4000+4000+4000 (dealer gets 1.5 the points so 8000 became 12 000)

im so afraid of running out
welfare is barely keeping me alive

ftfy

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Need 1 more. Use your delirium to enter the flow.

BASED AND PONPILLED

Literally me.

This pleases the cat.

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>no kokushi

>not tea-spamming constantly
Gomenazai, ne~

>Queue silver south
>Game ends east 2 because some nyagger discards a tile with no copies in play and got double ronned for dealer mangan + my haneman
Got 2nd for no effort so that's nice.

BREAKU ZA GURASSU CEILINGU

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Holy fuck that face is so smug.

needs cat(s) (plural) added to the image, preferably with all the sad emotes from the other characters

>KAN NYA
>get 4 dora
heh, nothing personnel, hag

hags btfo

Why are we called hags? She's 24. I'm literally older than she is.

ahhhhh

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sounds like one

Bitter nyaggers.

>She's 24 after makeup*
fixed

Fucking erect at how close these matches are going.

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She's just a dignified young lady, that's all.

LONDON

Yea Forums is lolicon country.

It's making a hand with zero fu. You know how to count fu, right? You're not a mahjong brainlet, right Yea Forums?

Any useful tips beyond "git gud"? I want to get out of the Bronze room as soon as possible?

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pinfu
riichi

play south

cat's age is unknown, for all we know she could be 200 years old.

play south

Those are my South plays.

take that richi and pinfu away.
there is no way the cat can resist calling until it reaches tenpai

?

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>game doesn't ask for my birthday
is this even a real gacha game

why is cat angry

If you arent a teenage lesbian you will never get good at this game

riichi stays at least, because its a button you can press

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REMOVE THE CHUN

>build pinfu
>never get pinfu

HOW do people get it

I've only ever gotten it twice. I've gotten ten times as many half flushes and half outside hands.

I laid down after 25 hours awake, seven of which were mahjong and thought that I wouldn't be able to fall asleep because my head had a terrible wait.

check out this absolute nyagger

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closed hand
open wait
no triples
pair can't be seat wind, round wind or dragons

beware of the double sunday

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Remember the forbidden strategy for netplay - if you drop a nuke other players' countries, you automatically gain Nagasaki Mangan.

whats the difference between east and south games?

A double Sunday is not compared to the weekly special.
I swear to fucking god somehow someone always gets that on me.

Pinfu is the most natural form of hand. It won't happen all the time, but most of the time. Simply because sequences are easier to build than triplets, and because two-sided sequences (eg 45) are really good, if you're just being efficient, you'll probably end up with a pinfu.

south is twice as long as east, but it's effectively even longer than that because everyone playing in east try to spam quick hands

is there a worse feeling than getting cucked out of a yakuman
this motherfucker held onto it for 13 rounds

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pull up your south stats

East is more luck based. In South, since you have twice as much hands, and cheap wins don't matter as much, there's more room for skill, danger assessment, and efficiency to win over that one faggot who got 3 doras one time

Your hand is obvious, dumbass.

no shit but like i'm not going to go for it, dumbass

>be that fucking obvious
>bawww I'm not getting dealt
Akagi disapproves

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Why the hell would he deal this shit?
You should've gone for Shousangen instead. Deal that 6s and win with 456s. That'd be haneman.

The point is, he held onto it because you had two pairs of it. So why are you acting surprised about it?

>discard a tile
>immediately after realize I made a huge mistake
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Even Akagi disagrees with going for the Daisangen.

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>So why are you acting surprised about it?
i'm not surprised he didn't deal it, but there's a decent chance of him dealing it because he didn't think i'd get that lucky
i also could have drawn it myself

Who here /waitingforuncensor/

>2 dragons pon by the same guy
>no dragons in the pond
Silvers actually do the right thing for once?

Is there a worse feeling than being East and quickly discarding something that looks worthless only to realize seconds later how big that piece was. The 5 second start isn't long enough goddammit.

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Maybe if he had a really good hand and it was early in the round he'd deal it, but he had trash

>i'm not surprised he didn't deal it, but there's a decent chance of him dealing it because he didn't think i'd get that lucky
Absolutely NOBODY is that retarded. ESPECIALLY when it's 100% alive.

gg. Pity, my triplet dora chun can't show itself at that last round.

sorry what

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post deal in rates

so if you get a yakuman off a ron can you literally just end the game in 1 round?

gg fellas

This is the closest I've gotten to 13 oprhans. Though I wanted to know where all the North tiles were

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It was pretty obvious I was going for outside, but I was in tenpai for the record.

Guess I'll settle for getting tsumo'd to death.

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Is this ranked or friendlies?

press the wall button so you can see how many were dead walled?

read the top left, it's in a silver room

Guys, not sure i understand this yaku.
If you pon, does it still work ? Or do you just have to not ron the last tile you need for a triplet ?

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Japs aren't even allowed to play against westerners until gold room. Wouldn't want to scare off the potential new customers with actually good mahjong before they're good and ready.

Says silver room on the image

pon does not count, but your hands can be open.

You can't without red dragon either, I kidnapped all possible chun.

To be honest, not only will I not call, I'll go out of my way to discard the pair as my first move because it just generally makes my hand worse.

>just got thrashed by an expert in silver east

why the fuck are they even allowed in there?

Well fuck me, then. I can't even begin to understand what goes on in the minds of those idiots.

Practice in a slowpaced environment
gamedesign.jp/flash/mahjong/mahjong_e.html

Here's mine. Just recently got 1st place.

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I was missing the character 1. The odds were slim otherwise, since there was one more red dragon in the wall lol

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yep

Chinamen will eventually leak into silver as they bash each other in bronze.

I hope everyone is playing proper mahjong

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Nevermind, I'm not sure I'm actually reading this chart right

Well, that took just a few days.

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>play mahjong online
>playing mahjong just because some generic anime bitch
lol weeb

Are you some nyagger in rehab trying to resist the pretty buttons?

You can pon but the only triplets that count for the 3 needed are the closed ones (which also doesn't include the ron).
So if you end up ponning or chiiing, the rest of your hand must be only triplets.

Also since the ron doesn't count as a hidden triplet, if you have something like 222 555 888 and 11 99, if you ron 1 or 9, it'll count as 3 hidden triplets instead of 4 (but you'll also have the all pons yaku). If you draw the 1 or 9, it'll count as 4 hidden triplets, for yakuman

>And it's a rinshan kaihou

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>Nyagga dey ALL Chinese

Why the fuck JP want to play this shitty web browser mahjong, delusional weeb?

the best trump hand would be
2222s 4444s 6666s 8888s 33s
chinitsu suukantsu ryuuiisou
BUILD WALL

That call rate may be high, but I got good points out of it.

As someone who loves older strip mahjong games and has been wanting something new, what makes this one unique/good? I'm assuming there's no nudity, but that more recent style of just absurdly revealing clothing or whatever.

Is there animated stripping?

What even is it? A phone app?

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why is it double though

Chanta is trash, replace it with Chitoitsu and Sanshoku.

that's a suuankou right? but why is it a double yakuman?

Tanki wait

>Implying a cat knows how to pinfu
CHII
RON

In addition, I don't open my hand for shitty 1000 points.

Pair wait.

god I miss old shitty anime art
There's a reason its in the extremely advanced section user

10 steps ahead of you.

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I mean it's lower than a typical nyagger who are on the 60+% but your deal in rate is higher than your win rate so I thought you were reforming from a nyagger past.

No one said anything but you should know that was funny.

Suu Ankou is double if you're waiting on the pair (all 4 triplets are already in your hand) rather than having 3 hidden triplets and two pairs waiting to draw one of those two.

Probably because the former is harder to get than the latter.

>double yakuman = same points as triple

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Certain rulesets make it a double yakuman if your wait in a single wait for the pair instead of a dual pair wait.

What the point of playing this? because anime?

It's on the East, so 1.5 times higher.

Try dealing in a bit less

personally i just like mahjong, I'm just happy there's a game people are actually playing for once
tenhou sucks though

The maid wasn't the dealer that turn. Fortunately

Double Yakuman is literally double the actual limit.
You're ALREADY doubling the limit at double.

you can finally understand akagi

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imagine being retarded enough to discard the final wind in a situation like that

East pays and receives more points per hand.

Tenhou is better than Majsoul.

open riichi when

it says tsumo right next to the wind idiot

Imagine being so retarded that you don't know how to read.

Open riichi got banned in the 70s when people figured out that you should always just open riichi if there's another riichi on the table to massively increase your gains when the first riichi deals into yours.

>no cute girls
wrong

>play Japan mahjong online made by wapanese chink cockroach
>i like mahjong
Pathetic weeb
>understand Akagi by playing shitty web browser mahjong
The fuck?

Meh. D-

This was made for chinks and they eat cats

Well yeah you need a grasp of the rules to understand some of the stuff he does.

Just imagine it, the girls in this are all generic anime basic bitch
>9 generic anime bitch voiced by 3 shitty no name VAs
Burn in hell

No way I'm going to break my hand especially when it's worth a Mangan or better. I only break my hand on less worthy hands

>I only break my hand on less worthy hands
Then get used to having the tiles break over your ass as the other players spank and rape you.

what is an Ankou or An Kou with regards to mahjong? i've seen the word before and im seeing it again in this defensive strategy article

5. Break apart An Kous etc.... and cross your fingers.

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>reading is hard
What's a faggot, i bet all of the faggots play this shitty game are all fucking weeaboo know nothing about mahjong too.

Mangan is usually a good push (if it's not too far away), but consider that even starting to fold could still get you a winning hand. If you start by throwing your pair or something, you might draw another and get in a better tenpai later.

Sometimes you gotta hog those dangerous tiles in your hand.

I'd want it as an option in my casual games though to style on people.

An Kou is the Jap term for a concealed triplet. It means a triplet that would be scored as "closed" when counting fu. The hands 3 and 4 Concealed Triplets are called San (3) and Suu (4) An Kou respectively.

the best defence is winning before they have a chance to

Reading isn't hard but some of the things he does is linked to, say, hands value. Like when he threatens Washizu with a Toitoi.

Ankou = closed triplet.
The reason why breaking an ankou is good for defense is because if one tile passes, then the two others will pass too, buying you 3 turns of safety.

>all fucking weeaboo know nothing about mahjong
correct

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Start up a Riichi club, user.

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Depends on the rankings.
If you're 1st and 4th place riichis, that's a great moment to fold. This way 2nd can't chase you.

>cats
>declaring riichi

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i learned everything i need to know about mahjong from legendary gambler tetsuya

>discard tile
>instantly get another next draw
what sorcery is this

She's just getting paid her 1000 for her open tannyao.

>i bet all of the faggots play this shitty game are all fucking weeaboo know nothing about mahjong too.
Those sub human are all gacha faggots, they played this shitty crappy barebone web browser just because anime waifu FTW XD. I hates weeaboo white trash so much

>accidentally click on worst girl in lobby
>incoming BAKA HENTAI AHOOOOOOOO at like 200 decibels

never roll the gacha

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Of course this shit will be dead as fuck lol, no mahjong player want to bother with this crap except weeaboo

just got bond lvl 1, how much does the bond xp requirement go up each level?