DMC

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Was this ever up for debate?

3 and 5 are the best, but 1 is still good.

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I prefer 3 and 5 but I get why someone would prefer 1, it's a very different kind of game from what the series would become.

3 = 5 > 1 > 4
prove me wrong

For me it's;
5 > 3 = 1 > 4

I agree

For me it's 5 > 3 >= 1 > 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DmC > 2

1 > 5 > 3 >= DmC DE > 4 > 2

I'm trying 5 for the first time, what's the consensus on the Devil Breaker system? I don't like it so far because I have an irrational hatred of using consumables in games. I wish they were just Nero's version of Devil Arms that he could switch between freely.

Also why the FUCK did they design V with sandals? I can't respect a man if I can see his toes.

Honestly 3,5 and 1 are the best and if any of those are your favorite I accept that. If 2 or DmC are your faves then you don't deserve these games.

I just started 1 again since it first came out. Could y'all give tips on how to git gud?

What's with the hate for 4?

It's ok, but it would have been better to only have like 4 at a time but be able to switch through them. They're cheap and you get so many of them for free on the lower difficulties that you shouldn't worry about using them, and by DMD you can carry like 8 or something at a time.

It was acceptable until 5 came out, it's been demoted. It's not DmC or 2 tier, but it's not great.

5 is just DmC2 with shitty level design. It's a garbage game that has killed the series

It was half of a good game whereas 1, 3 and 5 were complete good games.

Asshurt DMC5 Discord shills. DMC4 has better gameplay, story, levels, bosses and music.

1 is trash

It basically killed the series

Don't worry too much about using them up, finding them is only problem on Sons of Sparda up and by then you're rolling in red orbs and have access to full on DT and Buster. Personally I love the system, especially because it gives me something to dump red orbs into after a few playthroughs.

Not really hate, the combat system is great the game just doesn't support it very well. It just isn't as tightly designed as 1, 3, or 5. Plus 5 takes that combat system and cranks it to 11 so it's a bit obsolete in that regard besides playing as the Special Edition characters.

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>and 5 were complete
Nope. They just reused the same assets for 10 missions straight. DMC5 is even more unfinished.

Boy you must hate pools and looking down in your room

Asshurt DMC4 discord furries.
Go back to your BP trainer to infinite combo on basic mobs.

I don't hate it, it's just not great. Lame bosses, too many annoying enemies, dice rooms, stupid story, Dante's campaign was just rushing through areas you already played through. Credo and the gameplay are literally its only positives.

Why haven't you spammed V fag porn yet, degenerate?

>better bosses
I'll usually defend 4's bosses but bruh
The only real standout is Credo

>Implying I don't wear shoes in my room

Seriously though, a beach or pool is one thing, but not out and about, and especially not when you're fighting demons through a ruined city. The first thing you do when you get control of V is head into a fucking trash filled sewer. Bet that felt great.

>Also why the FUCK did they design V with sandals? I can't respect a man if I can see his toes.
He's fujobait, girls love toes as much as guys do.

Jokes on you because I just fapped.
To straight vanilla porn

can we get through one goddamn thread without shitposting

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>Designing characters for women

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Yeah, I loved fighting bosses like that lava spider 3 or 4 times each, the limited combat system, and those AMAZING underwater sections. And MAN that STORY. DMC1 is not overrated at all and clearly better than DMC3 and 5, right?

Suck my dick, you retarded contrarians.

I unironically think DmC is the better package. More content, better pacing, and a better overall experience (see: no Nero)

It has the best mooks.

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>Plus 5 takes that combat system and cranks it to 11
5 does take away some good things like instant guard cancel, instant jump cancel, and higher ranks extending the duration of stuff like million stab and what not.

The enemy design and atmosphere is the best in the series, but it's still not a better game than 3 or 5. It just isn't.

And adds actually fun weapons and Quad S.

I wonder what Vergil's dumb Alligator pants would look like in RE Engine.

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VERGIL

DLC

W H E N

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2022 when DMC5 Special Edition launches for PS5

>DMCV has no unlockable costumes
>Just some shitty recolors that you have to pay extra for

WHY DO THEY KEEP DOING THIS

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At E3

I feel you, but technically V and Vergil do have unlockable costumes.

Please I don't want to see those hideous pants ever again.

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>Yeah, I loved fighting bosses like that lava spider 3 or 4 times each
I didn't mind so much because it wasn't the exact same every time. You probably unlocked new moves by the next fight, they had new moves to use, the arena was different, etc.

3 had some absolutely terrible bosses though. Most of them having regenerating shields or going offscreen is a retarded way to make the fight seem more difficult/longer.

I honestly think 1's style of reoccuring bosses works. Ironically it's the entire reason you faggots like Vergil so much, notice how he's the only boss in 3 you fight three times? If Vergil had just been the final boss of DMC3 like he is in DMC5 with no other fights no one would like him as much as they did.

>they could have easily made coatless versions but they didn't
Crapcom is going to make us wait for the se

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Sorry user you're not allowed to have opinions here

>better gameplay
You mean a Dante with fewer, less complicated weapons? Nero without the extra arm mechanics and one less Red Queen attack?

>Levels
You mean the backtracking and pseudo puzzles were good?

>Bosses
You don't like fighting Vergil? Are you gay?

I love Vergil so much.

Who doesn't?

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I've always held the opinion 4 is a lukewarm game with little redeeming things. Combo autism doesn't really appeal to me.

You can't hate somebody this great.

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Shut up dante

What sort of annoying (mostly to Dante) self care things will Vergil indulge in now? Walking around in a bathrobe all day with a cup of tea? His hair in a towel? Cliche cucumber over the eyes to help with his puffy circles? Or would be go full Partrick Bateman?

A blue orb hat? How would that work? Does it decrease your health bar as you attack but it does high damage? Then it can increase your health bar when you attack an enemy wearing the hat?

I love 3, but everything after Vergil 2 until Vergil 3 kinda sucks ass. In terms of consistency in quality, I'd put 1 and 5 over it.

The vfagets lel.

I don't hate 4, I don't understand the hate either, but it has been usurped. I just wish 5 had a damn turbo mode.

4 was incomplete. The bosses sucked excluding Credo, the story was ass and Dante was running through levels we've already been through. The gameplay was a blast though.

5 is pretty much Itsuno making sure it takes what was done in 4, then enhance it along with releasing the game in a more complete state.

If 4 was complete it would've been rated higher by fans. But with 5 it's gotten "replaced". The only mainline DMC game that sucks is DMC2, every entry has something to offer.

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Name a memorable boss fight from DMC5.

Gilgamesh.

Vergil

Cavaliere Angelo
Malphas
King Cerberus
Vergil

1 is an RE game

>5 is pretty much Itsuno making sure it takes what was done in 4, then enhance it along with releasing the game in a more complete state.
Sounds like the same thing that happened with 2->3. Makes me wonder if this shit is done on purpose.

Just install the mod or use cheat engine, this game is so much more pleasant to play when it's going faster.

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kicking the hero to the abyss only to bring him back better than ever is 100% a modern marketing tactic user

The Sonic trailer was most likely purposefully cringey for the sole purpose of reaction videos, edits, memes, etc. You dont even need to advertise anymore

new coke

I'm not buying it.

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>everytime I try to give vergil the hat he takes so long to do the stab attack that it disappears

It's still the best entry in the series

DMC3 is so unlike other games in the series, this entry felt so refreshing in its own way and the environment and characters and story felt epic.

I want to be Vergil

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Can you fight that boss as other characters?

It's still the best in the series, and arguably the best in it's genre.

Cavalier
Cerberus
Vergil

Hatto!

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Don't open.

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level design is still complete shit

I should've listened.

it's actually the best devil may cry of all.

Still the best DMC, DMC5 can go eat shit.

Hmm, not bad sir, I quite like this.

I find it funny how fujos got obsessed of Vergil's tail.

3 > 5 > 1 > 4 > Dmc > 2

I think 5's baseline quality is overall better/the worst moments aren't nearly as bad as 3's worse moments. But the best moments in 3 are higher than the best moments in 5. Mostly how well paced it is and how much emotional impact certain scenes in the story have. Just the final Vergil fight alone manages to feel so much more satisfying.

>"Hey, mom. It's been a while, uh? Today I'm not alone. Vergil came too. We're good now. I hope you too... wherever you are."

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>mine's bigger.jpg

I love Dante

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>That potato V

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REEE BARRY REEEE

you like that?
you want some more potato V you dirty bitch?

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>Sui Yumeshima
the fact that Reuben's wife drew it is even better

didn't even notice that somehow
thats so cute

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I remember every single boss in the series barring DMC2 and DmC's bosses, thus every single boss is memorable.

Memorylets don't bother replying

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wait I thought 4 was good or did i get memed on?

I was gonna reply but I don't remember what I was gonna say

>can't remember DmC's bosses

There's only 6, man.

4 has a fantastic baseline combat framework with shit tier everything else

4 was alright just not as good as the others.

It was good before 5 came out. It just got demoted to low tier.

Only the gameplay. The graphics aged like milk and the cutscenes are unwatchable cringe.
I didn't realized it back then, because i was a fat teenager that listened to Slipknot.
Try watching any cutscene now without unironically, physically cringing.

There are some I remember but I just meant that I don't remember every single one off the top of my head like I do with 1/3/4/5.
What I can remember here and now is Hunter, Succubus, the baby thing, Muhndus and Vorgil,

For 2 I remember Big Monkey, Wall Face, some two headed thing with wrecking balls, some gats, big fish, Arius, Trismagia, Argosax (bloc + Argosax Arius_ and Despair Embodied.

i just started the series, finished 1 and in the middle of 3 now. Guess I should just take it slow if 5 is the only great game left
How's the NT reboot?

I only remember the Bob Barbas and the Fetus. Bob Barbas is the only fun boss, and I only remember the fetus because it's one of the most uncomfortable boss fights I've ever witnessed.

Don't get me wrong. DMC4 is still a great game due to aforementioned fantastic gameplay framework alone. It's just not as good as it could be.
Reboot is trash devoid of depth or charm

same as dmcv, retard.

>the cutscenes are unwatchable cringe
I first started playing it as an adult and the cutscenes are silly over the top fun (dat fucking matrix scene between Lady and Dante)
now pic related actually made me cringe.

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The original is horrible but not as bad as 2, the Definitive Edition fixes a lot of the gameplay problems but it's still not as good as the rest of the series.

DMC2 is the only one you should skip. DMC4, don't get us wrong, it's still a good game. It's just kinda meh compared to 1,3 and 5. DmC, if you're going to play it make sure it's the Definitive Edition. It fixes a lot of the issues the game had. It's the Second worse game in the series though.

does any game after 1 have missable secret missions like the one with the 3 shadows?

No because every game after 1 has a mission select

This and you're also able to retry secret missions without restarting the level.

All I know is, 5 gave me hope in humanity. We might just make it.

That fucking smile. I feel like I am loving him even more everytime I see it.

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DMC6 really needs to have separate campaigns for each character instead of switching between them all in one mashed up campaign.

But why ?

sir I am gonna have to ask for the sauce of that marvelous pic you got there!

> expecting a DMC thread without shitposting

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DMC newfag here, been playing 3, fun game though I'm still pretty shit. Beowulf is killing me inside, how do I do it?

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fevereiro

Dodge often and look for a open point to start attacking.

>If 2 or DmC are your faves then you don't deserve these games.
you sound like you only just got into this franchise. Nobody thinks 2 is good

anybody who thinks 5 is the best obviously started with 5

I wanna suck grandpa Dantes dick and lick his abs and do other nasty degenerate things to him

I've been playing since 3 and I think 5 is the best because it does what 1,3 and 4 did well without any of the bad stuff. Another user in this thread said that they preferred 3 because while it did have lower lows then 5, it also had higher highs, and I feel that could be said about most of the games.

Not at all, I've known and been a fan of the franchise for something like 17 years now. And for my part I have a hard time choosing my favorite between 3 and 5. But I feel like I tend to prefer 5 in the end.

Been playing the games since the first game was released actually. 3 has been my favorite for years, I think 5 is just as good as 3.

>you sound like you only just got into this franchise. Nobody thinks 2 is good

Been playing since the first release. My point was that I won't judge you for having any of the games as your faves, except 2 and DmC. Fucking aspie.

ZOOM ZOOM

>that day...if our positions were switched, would our fates be different? would I have your life... and you mine?

Well? How different would they be?

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That is very sweet of you.

Thanks, maybe I'll need to use Trickster then. I'm mostly struggling with Beowulf's homing feathers, shit is impossible to dodge and I'm too slow to run to his back, it sucks.

Imagine if Dante had actually looked like Vergil and not a dirty hobo.

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Demon king Dante would've been the most loved demon king with pizza parties and shit
Demon hunter Vergil would've been even edgier than he is now.

DISGUSTING!!! leave my hobo handsome pizza loving man alone you filthy slut!

Dante would be a bit edgier and much rugged looking. Vergil would be a gentleman devil hunter with dapper looks.

Vergil would probably be in a relationship with Lady for a while because unlike Dante he knows how to woo ladies, Nero is a living proof of that.

This fanart is fucking nice, saved ! Honestly Vergil's model would make a good 3 Dante. But as of right now I can't see him differently than what he is in 5. Both are just perfect the way they are in my opinion.

Vergil would have a bookstore. But it's also a cover for his devil hunting buisness. Instead of receiving a phonecall with the password, people would bring him a book with it. And that's where the mission begin.

I can't believe they're not doing it anymore, given how hot the guys are in 5.

>a bookstore
>not a bar

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I hope vergil goes for this look in 6

Dante would have a daughter named Bianca.

user, Vergil is a nerd. There are higher chances of him opening a bookstore than a bar. I like the idea though.

Detective demon hunter Vergil whos a workaholic compared to lazy Dante

You mean this look.

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>5Vergil in a bathrobe
>ywn see him 'cause no sol animu

Really, don't open

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Thanks, I hated it.

this made me fucking cry wtf man I came to shitpost and now I am in tears

user your gonna make me tear up

From laugh?

>try to find source
>get this
my heart

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this time there was no laughs only sadness

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@Emy_nyan

4 has always been an incomplete, messy game, but until 5 came out, it had the most refined and complex action combat in the series. Now that 5 is out with gameplay just as good if not better, and without skimping on the other parts of the game, 4 is kind of invalidated.

Iirc, he only uses the homing feather shit if you're far from him.

>more complete state.
>No costumes
>Complete
yea sure that campaign is complete the game isnt tho

Completely agree, I've felt this more the further away we get from initial release hype. It was sick to have a new Vergil fight again in 5, but it wasn't nearly as memorable as DMC3's Vergil fights because it feels more like it was done out of obligation.

If it wasn't for how weird the smiles look, this'd be a 10. Still cute and wholesome.

>Kamiya purist/Matosis parrot
Worst than fujos

Which is why he said "more complete", dumbass. Costumes or not, it's absolutely more finished than 4, which didn't even get real costumes until its Special Edition.

cosmetic costumes don't make the game "incomplete". Not only that but it was specifically mentioned there would be no costumes beforehand.

>judge the game by some cosmetic shit
Imagine being that dolboeb

Elder God Tier: 3
Great tier: 1, 5
Good but flawed tier: 4
Shit tier: 2
Fuck you tier: DmC

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>Nico in the back
cute

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I hate how generic gyaru she made Kyrie look.

this shit is so wholesome god damn it stop it!! too wholesome!!

Wrong and fuckyoupilled.

Kyrie does look pretty generic though
I'm more concerned about her smile at that angle
shes going

We family posting?

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Spoiler this shit

wtf they made nico ugly stop this at once!!

>made

my sweet nico doesnt look like fricking goblina... she is a hot beautiful foxy lady and this they turned her in to goblin lady wtff and wtf why is he with her, seriously not wholesome at all and it needs to be burned

But we /family&wholesome/ now

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>why is he with her
Because they fucked, obviously.

At least don't post cursed.

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Holy shit, is that a tranny

Probably just tumblr

What the actual fuck

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Looks like he's giving birth to a Fury.

Mommy!

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3 is not a very good game, level design is complet shit, half of the mission are totally boring because of this and all of the bad enemies make things even worth
Even both are not good except a few exception like Vergil

hot

Fuck off pat

I started with 3 and i think 5 is the best one yet

3 vergil, 4 vergil and 5 vergil are really good looking.

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5>3se>4se>3>DmCde>1>4>DmC>2
I know I won't have many people agree with me about this, especially with the placement of 1, but I find it hard to go back to 1, and the entirety of the final act is garbage

1 has the best bosses and location but I still prefear 3's combat

Anyone else uses Sparda over DSD? I'm cool with all the extra shit DSD gives but it honestly feels like a crutch considering all the shit dante has

Stay close to him when he uses that. It feels stupid to do with how the animation for that attack looks, but it works

eurogamer.net/articles/2019-05-11-capcom-devil-may-cry-5-successfully-reinvigorated-brand
>Devil May Cry 5 "successfully reinvigorated" the series, Capcom has said
Holy shit does someone has the other article where Capcom says they have more plans for RE2 and DMC5?
I can feel something cooking bros

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Honestly, not surprised at all. I mean come on, this game is great and deserves more.

Where does the series go from here? Nero game? Sparda game? DMC2 remake? Something completely different?

>wearing shoes walking around in your own house

disgusting

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Fuck DMC mango, I wasn't prepared

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Okabe and Itsuno have said that there's definintely plans for DLC if the fans want it, while Matt Walker simply said that there "currently" aren't any plans for more DMC5 DLC.

Personally I don't believe Walker, but I think DMC5 DLC is ways off. I think they might be planning an Iceborne/Dark Arisen style expansion for DMC5 that expands on the game in a major way. But we won't see that until 2020 at the earliest.

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Where is this from

I'll dump a bit since thread is ded anyway

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readcomiconline.to/Comic/Devil-May-Cry/

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Fuck, wrong order. Second for this

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>Where does the series go from here? Nero game? Sparda game? DMC2 remake? Something completely different?

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if DMC6 changes the structure of the games quite drastically, for better or worse DMC5 was basically the old DMC formula taken to its peak.

I think DMC6 is gonna be something more similar to MGSV where they make the game more open-ended. Not Open World per-se, but I think it's gonna be set somewhere between DMC1 and DMC2 with Dante just running the Devil May Cry business; and actually running the business is a part of the gameplay. So instead of a 20 missions story the game has more of an episodic format.

And yes, I realize that this totally sounds like a Games as a Service game; but that's the direction video games are going and I'm trying to look at this from a business perspective.

Second for that

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>I think DMC6 is gonna be something more similar to MGSV where they make the game more open-ended. Not Open World per-se, but I think it's gonna be set somewhere between DMC1 and DMC2 with Dante just running the Devil May Cry business; and actually running the business is a part of the gameplay. So instead of a 20 missions story the game has more of an episodic format
This could go amazingly good or horribly bad. But i do like the idea of a more open DMC

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>seething

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>implying game journos care about men
I'm honestly suprised DMC 5 didn't get massive shit for the naked lady and trish scenes.

Only postan Nerlo Angelo pages

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>DMC5 in 5 years

That blue shit looks like a diablo 2 portal, i'm waiting for a barbarian to come out of nowhere and whoop his ass

>I'm honestly suprised DMC 5 didn't get massive shit for the naked lady and trish scenes.
>implying they didnt
Alot of cucks pointed that as a negative in reviews

Jesus Dante calm down

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>my adopted son
Eat shit Moondust

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good game, but no style switching, therefore 0/10.

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That's it
Unfortunately book 4 is
>Never released.

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>my adopted son
Holy shit Mundus is assblasted so much that he wants Sparda sons as his?

And Mundus' wife

*Sparda's

Will they just leave him sealed off forever? What do you do with this guy, he'd job to any living member of the Sparda family real quick.

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Give him some crazy powerup
Its like you never watched dragon ball

I'd hardly call it intentional when there was a decade between 4 and 5. Plus in 2's case Itsuno and his group came in to salvage the disaster that was DMC2 with only 6 months until release. 3 was literally made so that they wouldn't be remembered for 2, which is probably why it turned out so good.

Prequel with him and Sparda. Maybe that way they can make people care about him, so his return would mean something.

>6 months
4

I agree whole heartedly.

DMC5's story is underrated and people will only look back on it more and more favorably as the years go on just like how people did with DMC3.

DMC5's story is basically the MGS4 of the franchise except actually good. It ties together the loose ends of previous games and expands on character motivations. Retroactively improving the stories of 1, 3 and 4 in the process. We finally get to see-

The reason for why Dante and Vergil drifted apart (literally the catalyst for DMC3's story yet it's never been shown)
Vergil's inner conflict over his pursuit of power, and how he faces the consequences of finally succeeding at what he always set out to do. (Becoming a demon king like Mundus)
The shortcomings of Dante's own ideals and how he will act recklessly just to complete his goal (just like Vergil does)
How Nero is more mature than either of them because he fights to protect his family and loved ones. (Dante sets aside his duty as Sparda's successor for a personal vendetta)

DMC5's story isn't as clean as DMC3, but it is way deeper and more ambitious.

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>only 4 months
Makes me appreciate Itsuno even more

I kinda wish the Urizen fight had a bit more spectacle. Mundus really sold you on the fact that he was a demon king with his dimensional fuckery, multiple forms and his visual design. Urizen on the other hand used abilities from previous bosses with some punches and kicks. I did like his 80's anime look though.

>can't remember 2's bosses
>can't remember DmC's bosses
Cmon man, I can name all of them and I haven't even played any of them. Next thing you're gonna tell me is that you can't remember every single lesser demon in the series.

Does anyone have that pic with all the floors of Bloody Palace and the ennemies in each of them? I really need to optimize my Devil breakers loadout for every 10 BP floors

Requesting Dante and Snake having a drink in a bar, talking about the good old times.

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I want to make a demon double bladed longsword

The problem is you need to read Blake in order to understand everything about DMC5 plot. And people are too stupid even to read the Divine Comedy.

Ok? Its not an unpopular opinion

No, but it is a great one.

How does reading either of those affect one's understanding of the story other than knowing where all the names are taken from? I got more from learning that the real Temen-ni-gru is from where Abraham first lived before God told him to hit the road.

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>Retroactively improving the stories of 1, 3 and 4 in the process
Kek, pic related
>what he always set out to do. (Becoming a demon king like Mundus)
No? He's just power autistic. In 3 he sought the power of Sparda, not the fruit.
>Dante sets aside his duty as Sparda's successor for a personal vendetta
What form of headcanon is this
>How Nero is more mature than either of them because he fights to protect his family and loved ones. (Dante sets aside his duty as Sparda's successor for a personal vendetta)
If anything, is Nero the one who'd go blind with rage and vendetta if Kyrie gets killed.
Dante extended his hand toward Vergil in 3 and he refused, choosing to stay in hell instead. This and knowing Vergil is a menace to the human world explains why he's so hellbent on killing him (before going woohoo jackpot vacation in hell with muh bro)

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>mentions how "good" the reboot is
>i i guess we're getting a dmc 6
Lol

Cavaliere Angelo

Read Earth's Answer as an example.

No, you need to be a brainlet fanboy to find a cohesive plot in DMC retconned mess of a lore.
But ehy, it's one of the best action serie out there.

>What form of headcanon is this

The demon world is literally taking over earth all while Dante and Vergil are fighting. Nero literally says so. It's Nero beating Dante and Vergil that makes them set aside their differences and destroy the qliphoth roots.

Lore != plot

Any idea where or what to search for to learn more about the real Temen-ni-gru, or whatever it was based off of? My google searches don't bring up anything but the DMC one.

actually its the only part of DMC series that WASNT cheesy, it was the most badass and cool one of all

Mommy!
Why the fuck every single one of these looks uncanny and /ss/

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Not really, I did find learning about the meaning behind the poetry we hear in the game and how it kinda ties in with vergil and the game, pretty fascinating

The actual one is the Ziggurat of Ur as shown in my previous picture. I accidentally found out that é-temen-ní-gùru was its Sumerian name and put the link together between that and DMC based on the fact that it and Divine Comedy have that historical Christian link between them. It's still just conjecture on my part but it makes sense as far as I figure, although the DMC one probably takes more from the Tower of Babel as far as the structure itself is concerned. If you copy and past that name into google you'll get non-DMC results.

These are really cute but the faces are a bit off.

>HaH missions as V
its not hard, but its fun either

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I read it but you'll need to fill me in on this one. Poetry does my head in as I have difficulty separating rhymes from narrative so I'm pretty bad at taking anything from it beyond an appreciation of the skill required to write it.

That's a weird response. I don't worship Kamiya, especially knowing he wanted QTEs in the game. I've played every DMC game upon release and 1 is still my favorite, fuck off with your random e-celeb insert.

>spoiler
Because its missing their father

His DMC3 playthrough even opens with him pouring through a cavernous library just for some info on Sparda.
I can definitely see him in that same situation then even as the protag.

>Literally they need to get hit hard in the head to finally have a revelation and let go (instead of reasoning)
Man the story is so stupid shonen
Dante wants to defeat Vergil SO he can stop the demon world from taking over earth, but Vergil has different priorities

Where is the personal vendetta again?

*not fun

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Shame, Agnus almost seemed like he would have stopped being a total dick after Dante lectured him, but he'd also done and allowed way too much to let walk.

If he and Dante had that talk earlier he likely would have been allowed to study Devil Arms at Dante's place, help Nero and be with Nico without being an asshole about all of it.

>Everything after mission 12 on HaH except 15, 19 and 20

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Agnus experimented on people who were brainwashed into believing they were doing it for greater good, and is no stranger to using hostages for his goals. It's questionable how much could he be swayed into serving the actual good side, he probably would have only done it so he could secretly continue evil experiments in peace.

>Man the story is so stupid shonen
>Dante wants to defeat Vergil SO he can stop the demon world from taking over earth, but Vergil has different priorities

Dante and Vergil aren't fighting over anything special at the end, Vergil already succeeded at getting the power he wanted, so in the end all that's left is for them to fight for the sake of seeing who's stronger. Then Nero beats some sense into them.

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>shoot gun
>SMOKING SEXY STYLE!!!!!!!

great game guys

Yeah, I like to imagine him, versed in books on his free time, being anti-social and having a hard time creating relationships with other people. Thus, him staying in his little bookstore most of the time, when he is not out on a mission. Maybe with someone working with him in it, that way he doesn't have to deal with others because, well. It's Vergil.
Sorry, I might be going to far with my headcanon

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Pretty sure Dante is fighting to make things right, but he believes the only solution is to kill Vergil because the latter just wants a fight/prove that he's stronger while the tree is still around claiming victims
"Your portal opening days are over. Give me the Yamato" (so I can go close the portal you powerautistic fuck)

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>you powerautistic fuck
Imagine Dante actually saying that. What would be Vergil's answer ?

Same chuckle before their last fight in DMC3, same response before lunging at him but probably with a dumb smile on his face.

>"Powerautistic is not a word, Dante. Will you read a dictionary or shall I hit you with one?"

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>Pretty sure Dante is fighting to make things right,
See, the thing is I don't get that vibe from DMC5 Dante. That's pretty much exactly what he IS doing if you look at his DMC3 and 4 incarnations where he clearly finds value in humanity. But there is nothing in the way of dialogue about him espousing praise to humans like he does in DMC4. Shame.

Are the rankings of each difficulty separate, or are they universal? Pirated DMC5 and beat it, gonna buy it next week. Unless someone knows how to edit save files so pirated ones can have legitimated Steam IDs, I'm probably gonna end up using a trainer for infinite orbs and then breeze through Devil Hunter so I can get Son of Sparda. But I don't really wanna do that if I'm SSSing Devil Hunter and then there's nothing left to work towards for the later difficulties.

What the fuck am I expected to do about Furies

Kinda funny how v can interact with nero but vergil is too much of an autist. Him acting awkward in the menu scene is funny to me.

He might just be a little worn out from cheerleading a lifestyle not his own by 5, he does give a form of praise to humanity and family values through Nero via pointing out to Vergil that despite having forgone his philosophy about power before everything he is still clearly very powerful.

So Vergil has living proof, his own child no less if his father wasn't enough, that he wasted his time and breath with all his ranting about the sacrifice for might since it could have been accomplished more sensibly like Nero.
And the scene also seems to show Dante is more mentally exhausted with Vergil and demon nonsense by then, so just laughing and laying down at fate finally sorting itself out instead of him having to carry all the weight seems more in character by then.

Obviously they are separated, otherwise there would be no point in beating other difficulties

Royal guard as Dante
Rawhide -> Charge shot > Buster as Nero

>Obviously they are separated, otherwise there would be no point in beating other difficulties
That's a relief, truly.

V had no idea Nero is his son, the revelation is what makes it really awkward for Vergil and adds extra weight when trying to spark a conversation, as Nero came from him and because of his autism the child grew up without parental support and now has issues cause of it.

>Pretty sure Dante is fighting to make things right

Both Vergil and Dante are fighting over who's will is stronger. Hence the whole V "THEY DISAGREE THEREFORE THEY MUST FIGHT" monolgue to Nero. Which is understandably thinks is stupid.

Both Dante and Vergil's character are pretty heavily rooted in old japanese culture were you fight to the death solely for your belief. Nero is more modern and open-minded and thinks its dumb.

>He might just be a little worn out from cheerleading a lifestyle not his own by 5
But we don't see that. We don't get a line of dialogue about Dante being cynical about humans.
>he does give a form of praise to humanity and family values through Nero via pointing out to Vergil that despite having forgone his philosophy about power before everything he is still clearly very powerful.
What? This sentence ran on and I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here.
>So Vergil has living proof, his own child no less if his father wasn't enough, that he wasted his time and breath with all his ranting about the sacrifice for might since it could have been accomplished more sensibly like Nero.
You don't find that a copout? Vergil and his endless lust for power in DMC3 culminates in DMC5, but it is entirely undone by a quarter demon hybrid? What kinda shit is that?

>Sit in S-SSS for half a fight as Dante
>3800 stylish points

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can you parry Cavaliere with cane when he is on Gerion?

You've got to kill them in those ranks to get the high points.

>Both Vergil and Dante are fighting over who's will is stronger.
But what is Dante's will in 5? The job? That doesn't make for a compelling character.

They're just twins.

So killing in S's is better than maintaining S's

>But what is Dante's will in 5? The job?

It's simply beating Vergil. He becomes so obsessed with beating him that he forgets what the reason for why he wants to beat him was there in the first place. Same with why Vergil wants to beat Dante, it's just a stupid principle thing.

Nero beating Vergil in DMC5 is the same as Dante beating Vergil in DMC3. Nero was fighting for something other than himself, which Dante wasn't doing in DMC5. His reason for fighting Vergil in DMC5 wasn't motivated enough, it came from a selfish place.

Not him, but for my part I think we should see it as Dante's will in general in the franchise and not just in 5. His behaviour in 5 is a result of everything he has gone through during all the games. In 5, it feels (for me at least) like, he is doing what he thinks is right which meant, defeat his brother. All the times they encountered, it always had come to fighting one another, because one is a threat for the other's beliefs. In this case, Dante goes like " yeah, once again I am going to defeat my brother, who is back to shit on everything and create deaths like every other times. This is the only way".So yeah, this is my take on it.

Yes. You can actually build S early in a fight with this method while doing as little damage as possible then go crazy on them.
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>His reason for fighting Vergil in DMC5 wasn't motivated enough, it came from a selfish place.
Where was this reflected? The Dante you're painting is a cynical man who is tired of saving humanity. That's not what I see in DMC5 Dante.
That's simplifying the overarching narrative. Vergil wasn't himself in 1, and in 3 Dante has good reason to face Vergil by the end of the game.

I wish he'd say "you got that right" while smirking, then proceeds to unsheathe Yamato
I kinda agree with that. He just looks bored for almost the entire game.
Then again, he has that dialog with Urizen in their last fight.

"Strength is a choise. Fighting like hell to protect what's important"
So regarding this:
>How Nero is more mature than either of them because he fights to protect his family and loved ones
Nero is not the first and not the only one.
Dante is that type of character since DMC1.

It's mommy day!

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Yes, it's the reason why DMC5's ranking system is a bit retarded when playing as Dante and the best way to get S's is to abuse Royal Guard.

Just started playing DMC3 and holy shit, I can see why people jack off over it so much. The first one was okay, the second one shouldn't even be mentioned, but the third one is pretty tight. Fuck those archer eyeball things and the weird flying worm boss fight though.

The only retarded boss that I can think of in 3 is the Leviathan Hearts

DMC 3 has godlike soundtracks and by far the best in in the series

First one is legitimately a better game in terms of difficulty balance. Play 1 DMD and then play 3 DMD and you will want to pull your hair out on 3's.

>"Strength is a choise. Fighting like hell to protect what's important"
But that furthers the issue. Writers don't get to drop bits of themes here and there and NOT follow through.
>Fighting like hell to protect what's important
As far as DMC5 Dante is concerned...nothing is important to Dante. As you say, he's rather bored. He gets melodramatic when the game needs him to be.
>Nero is fighting for his family
But we never see Kyrie, we never hear Nero tell her he loves her, we don't hear about his wishes for his own children, and the game never brings up Nero's mother except as a throwaway exchange
>That was a long time ago
>I guess you were young, too
But people just keep fucking making excuses for this shit and I don't understand why.

>Dante is that type of character since DMC1.
Not really, Dante fights for revenge first and in the process finds people worth protecting. Nero is the one that only fights to protect, without Kyrie and Credo he wouldn't have a reason to fight.

>3's
>better than 1's or even 2's

Yeah nah.

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>Where was this reflected? The Dante you're painting is a cynical man who is tired of saving humanity. That's not what I see in DMC5 Dante.

Dante decides to completely ignore the demonic invasion simply to settle his personal beef with Vergil. Even though Vergil has absolutely zero reason to hurt anyone anymore. He already got the demonic fruit he wanted and Dante just fights him for no real reason other than "TWIN BROTHER BAD".

Both Dante and Vergil's reasons for fighting are vague and stupid and Nero calls them out on it. They let their stupid family feud endanger the lives of thousands of people.

>endanger

By the time Urizen eats the first everyone in the city is already dead, there's no one left to endanger.

>Dante decides to completely ignore the demonic invasion simply to settle his personal beef with Vergil.
This interpretation is at odds with:
>"Strength is a choise. Fighting like hell to protect what's important"
>He already got the demonic fruit he wanted and Dante just fights him for no real reason other than "TWIN BROTHER BAD".
Except for the fact that Vergil is responsible for the deaths of millions of people. That is absolutely reason enough for Dante to kill him, but the game does nothing with the dead innocents at Vergil's hands.
>They let their stupid family feud endanger the lives of thousands of people.
No, Vergil let his lust for power, which was a response to his mother's death, cause the deaths of millions. But this is all thrown out in favor of the half assed family theme spearheaded by Nero, whose wife we never see, or mother nobody talks about with any depth.
>But people just keep fucking making excuses for this shit and I don't understand why.

>That's simplifying the overarching narrative. Vergil wasn't himself in 1, and in 3 Dante has good reason to face Vergil by the end of the game.

I do agree, but still at the end of the day Nelo Angelo was Vergil. Well not consciously but you know what I mean. And that's the thing here. Everytime it's about Vergil, in Dante's mind it must be like " not this shit again" and so he goes off to fight him thinking that whatever his twin is up to, it must not be good.
What I meant is that, it's some kind of mechanism for him.

Reminder that Nero and Kyrie are spending all their time taking care of orphans whose parents were killed by Sanctus because Trish gave The Sparda to him and Dante couldn't be assed to finish him off.

março

Them's the breaks kiddo

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>in Dante's mind it must be like " not this shit again" and so he goes off to fight him thinking that whatever his twin is up to, it must not be good.
If that's how you rationalize, well godspeed. Personally I don't like filling in characterization for the writers.

Trash was a mistake

>was a response to his mother's dead

Not anymore, now Vergil only ever wanted power because he hated Dante

abril

>Not anymore
Yes, I said as much:
> But this is all thrown out in favor of the half assed family theme spearheaded by Nero, whose wife we never see, or mother nobody talks about with any depth.
Why do you continue to excuse poor writing?

You can shred through Gigapede if you go for the head and just use Cerberus.

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>By the time Urizen eats the first everyone in the city is already dead, there's no one left to endanger.

The quiploth roots and opened a gateway straight to the underworld and would have caused a demonic invasion to continue indefinitely.

DmC had better music than 5 outside of Devil Trigger

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WTH do you think they're disagreeing on?
Vergil is still muh powa even after getting V back while Dante is like give me the fucking Yamato already, I have to stop the apocalypse

THE FLINCH IN YOUR EYE CALLS YOUR BLUFF

Well I understand you, but I'm just this kind of person who tries to make sens of everything lel. I may be wrong but that's how I interpreted it while playing 5. Not saying that Dante's behaviour is the most logical though. But I try to think the way he seems to be thinking and that's my conclusion about it.

>while Dante is like give me the fucking Yamato already, I have to stop the apocalypse
But that doesn't happen. That would've been a great line showing where Dante is coming from, but it doesn't happen. Can you go back in time and write DMC5?

>Nero is mad that Urizen took his arm the whole game
>then Nero is mad that Vergil and Dante are going to kill each other
>entire final battle is "FUCK YOU DAD" and "ACCEPT MY EXISTENCE" despite Vergil only finding out about having a son literally seconds before Nero swoops in
>no fucks are given about the tens of thousands of corpses piled up in Redgrave
Nero's kind of an asshole isn't he

I honestly dislike that DMC5's story reignites the sibling rivalry that 'should' have been long buried by DMC1 just to give Nero a point in the story. Espeically with how stupid it's settled.

>"oh okay so after all this time what if i beat nero because he knocked you down that means i win okay?"
>"wtf i don't hate Dante now"

He always kinda was, Kyrie is his shoulder angel.

>"oh okay so after all this time what if i beat nero because he knocked you down that means i win okay?"
>"wtf i don't hate Dante now"

It's only stupid if you discount the fact that V's experiences had an effect on Vergil's personality. Vergil didn't really have a good reason to fight at the end.

Yet the first thing that happens when V and Urizen reunite is Vergil wanting to prove his superiority to Dante. The story just feels strung along for no good reason because Nero needed something to stay relevant.

>Mundus comes back
>V is mundus
>vergil rips Nero arm
>Nero tells Dante
>Dante knows is Vergil
>they go after Vergil
>they cure Vergil from Mundus AIDS
>VVundus eats the fruit
>Sparda autists vs Mundus
>Triple jackpot
>end
Would It be better?
>

I think you can sort of justify Vergil's eternal seething at being weaker than Dante since the final DMC3 battle was the first time he conclusively lost to him, and shortly after was made into a brainwashed puppet for a long ass time. But I think it was a bad decision to hint at Vergil truly caring for Dante when he tells him to get out of hell before jumping off, then backpedaling and making it so that post Nelo Vergil is motivated purely to defeat Dante to the point of kicking the entire plot off in the first place. If they just left it at Vergil trying not to die, then it would have worked better, though you'd have to come up for a different reason to have a Vergil battle at the end of the game.

>strung along for no good reason because they needed an excuse for the vergil fights
Ftfy
In my opinion we just needed more missions between 18 and 20

gee Mundus, why does the Qlipoth let you eat TWO fruits?

"Your portal opening days are over. Give me back the Yamato" are literally lines in the game. Dante goes I have to stop Vergil during the final parts of the game.

DMC5 script is shit but this one thing is not one of its problems.

>Yet the first thing that happens when V and Urizen reunite is Vergil wanting to prove his superiority to Dante.

The game literally addresses the fact that Vergil's and Dante's reason for fighting is fucking stupid. It's like brotherly bickering taken to a cosmic scale. Dante vs Vergil is as natural to the twin brothers themselves as it is to the audience playing these games. They fight because "That's what we've always done lol"

Given how much power wank went on in DMC5, I don't even know how they would bring Mundus back, especially when Dante and Vergil are not at each other's throats anymore and might actually help one another. They'd have to give Mundus some sort of dumb power up, which in turn Dante and Vergil will get some dumb power up.

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I think they always were going to go with the vergil splitting up story if the concept art is anything to go by. We'll get mundus in a future game if they want to actually end the spardas son arc.

He has the dialog when Griffon dies to make an example.
Also since DMC3 is a prequel, DMC1 Dante is already "awakened to justice"

The story can remain exactly the same, they just need to add specific scenes and conversations where Dante remarks on the destruction Vergil has caused, where Nero asks about his mother, and where Dante can further champion humanity's persistence like he did in 4.
We're going in circles.
>Vergil's and Dante's reason for fighting is fucking stupid
Dante takes on Vergil at the end of 3 because A: Vergil wants Dante's amulet and is willing to kill him for it, and B: Dante saw his own struggle with father issues in Lady, and gains respect for humans while getting in touch with his demon heritage. Dante fights in 4 because he values humans. See his speech to Agnus. Dante SHOULD be taking on Vergil in 5 because Vergil has caused the deaths of millions, but the game pushes for
>They're brothers bickering and they're dumb t. V
And you don't find issue with this?

I return to you DMC thread after finally beating DMC5.

I hate this. I'm all out of DMC to play.
I don't want this to be the end, /dmc/. I want Pizza Jackpot Man and his arm thieving brother to work at the same shop like the menu screens.

Is this the end of Dante and Vergil? I think I remember an interview to that effect.

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For me? It's Tomboy, Overture, Tomboy, Overture, Tomboy, Overture, Tomboy, Overture.

no its just the beginning for the bros.
also wait for e3 dude

>Is this the end of Dante and Vergil
Not in a million years
We may or may not get something at E3

While it would be lame to give him an arbitrary power up like a Fruit 2.0, I'd still be okay with him becoming a threat again given how his relationship with both of the Sparda brothers is so intensely personal. Given the importance of Eva in DMC5, Vergil's stint as Nelo Angelo, and Mundus himself promising to be back, it would be great to have him as the villain again even if it's hard to justify narratively.

SUPER DEVIL TRIGGER TRUE DEVIL TRIGGER GOD ULTRA INSTINCT DEVIL TRIGGER

We're probably not gonna get anything for 5 years or so seeing as Itsuno's almost guaranteed to be working on Dragon's Dogma 2 for a while, but DMC5 finishes on a very open-ended note so that they can do whatever they want with the characters

WE SEE THE SAME LIGHT

I don't like DMC4 Dante as a character. He feels like a parody.

Thanks boys.

Post the DMC memes I have missed out on until now pls

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>We don't get a line of dialogue about Dante being cynical about humans.
It's not humans, it's his situation. By the beginning of 5 he still only has a dark corner to curl back into after boldly saving the world time and again.
His life is mostly sitting there waiting for nothing to happen or nothing good to happen.

Dante and his office since DMC1 (or 3 chronologically) become more unkempt illustrating something is taking a toll that he isn't addressing. Similar to how Lady fesses up to Nero that shooting her father has not gone away from her mind even if she hasn't tattooed Daddy Issues on her forehead.

Nero is also as much proof to Vergil as to Dante that Dante could have had a better life had he let down defenses and had the right company. Also Vergil's back, again, up to the same thing, again, meaning Dante has to do the same routine of trying to talk to a brick wall before reluctantly taking a sledge hammer to it, again. All these layers of Dante's gusto and ego being clearly but silently whittled down his whole life, things he's not comfortable with thinking about let alone talking about, it shouldn't need saying at the start of 5 that any shows and speeches by him were for others, Dante himself likely checked out from the conversation a few Jack Daniels ago.

1/?

>Similar to how Lady fesses up to Nero that shooting her father has not gone away from her mind even if she hasn't tattooed Daddy Issues on her forehead.
I don't remember this. When's that?

>It's not humans, it's his situation. By the beginning of 5 he still only has a dark corner to curl back into after boldly saving the world time and again.
>His life is mostly sitting there waiting for nothing to happen or nothing good to happen.
This probably sounded really good to you, but it's immediately undone with a joke phone call.
>become more unkempt illustrating something is taking a toll that he isn't addressing
This is an assertion that doesn't go anywhere in-game.
>Similar to how Lady fesses up to Nero that shooting her father has not gone away from her mind even if she hasn't tattooed Daddy Issues on her forehead.
N O T H I N G is done after this line with Lady. You bringing it up means nothing.
>Nero is also as much proof to Vergil as to Dante that Dante could have had a better life had he let down defenses and had the right company.
We don't see what Nero's home life is like so this is irrelevant.
>Also Vergil's back, again, up to the same thing, again, meaning Dante has to do the same routine of trying to talk to a brick wall before reluctantly taking a sledge hammer to it, again
...14 years ago? Again, this probably sounded really good to you, but it falls flat. It's not "again, and again, and again." It's the second time.
>it shouldn't need saying at the start of 5
No, it needed to be brought up gradually. Do you know how good DMC5 would be if Dante were more like Old Snake? Tired of fighting for humans, tired of the thankless duty he has taken on, tired of fighting and on the cusp of simply not caring anymore, only to see Nero and Kyrie's union and being reminded that he's been fighting for humans? That's a fucking good arc. What the game has now is nothing.

Happened when Nero was back in the DMC van having a freakout about Vergil being his daddy and how he can't go out to kill Vergil and needs to escape with them.

Lady says that the guilt never goes away, or something to that effect.

maio

>I'm not sure I understand what you're saying
Vergil had stood by the failure to stop his mother's death due to powerlessness and subsequent success since becoming powerful as self validating principle for everything he does or doesn't do.
The perseverance of the human spirit speech doesn't work on a hybrid like him who lived both lifestyles, and Dante is no exemplar of a balanced, fulfilled life so he had little counter argument until Nero, another hybrid, is there as proof you can live humanely and lose little for it and even gain more from it than being a complete devil.
Dante didn't feel like or need to give any more speeches that fall on deaf ears. He just points Vergil to Nero and refutes Vergil thus. Vergil fights Nero himself and concedes he can't dismiss that Nero is accomplished.

>You don't find that a copout?
No. Because NOTHING since DMC3 actually claimed Vergil's modus operandi was true or that others were wrong.
He and Arkham simply assumed so because they were too threatening or obsessed to be psychologically engaged and just threw tantrums when physically beaten. Vergil should have realized after what happened to Arkham that something was off about blindly pursuing Sparda's coat tails to solve everything, but instead he just scoffs and thinks "Scrub probably didn't have enough power."

I love Vergil, but the entire point of 3 and 5 is he's still as much of a stubborn idiot as DMC3 Dante. And like Dante with Lady, Vergil needed more time with someone like him, seemingly more vulnerable but as determined (while as the vulnerable V so he couldn't just ignore them) and less time senselessly indulging his way to slowly open his eyes.

It's more sensible a conclusion for him, again like DMC3 Dante, than any big fight he'd just gets lost in. All the machismo and self inflicted pain and bike stunts up towers never did any favors for Dante's personal problems compared to learning from Lady's moments of earnestness.
2/2

Holy shit, went back to DMC4 and Nero fells like such a bore and sluggish compared to DMC5, the extra grapple range and red queen attacks did wonders.

>It's not humans, it's his situation. By the beginning of 5 he still only has a dark corner to curl back into after boldly saving the world time and again.
His life is mostly sitting there waiting for nothing to happen or nothing good to happen.

I think you're trying to infer too much about Dante's bachelor pad. If he didn't have enough money for the bills, he probably doesn't have enough money to take out the garbage.

If Dante wasn't bored of it by the time DMC4 hit around, I don't think he's bored of it now. If there's anything to look deeper in, it's what V said about Dante's 'reason for fighting' coming back. Dante has been killing demons and probably always will be. Dante might seem 'fatigued' in DMC5, but I because he's reached a point where he believes there's no true 'danger' anymore. Back to why Vergil being around is something exciting.

I think we were meant to see how quiet Dante's life really is. Demons stirring up shit in the real world HAS to have gone down after how many portals to the demon realm have been closed off. No demons, no money.

It's a quiet thing, but not a 'depressing' thing. I said earlier that Vergil coming back was huge and this is why - it culminates with how Dante will never be back in that dark office all by himself again with nothing to do.

I hope this made as much sense as it does in my head.

>And you don't find issue with this?

No, since DMC is a video game first and foremost and Dante vs Vergil making sense is less important than a cool final boss.

Your quoting is throwing me the fuck off man.
This.

DMC3 didn't have this problem. Why would you lower your standards?

>Vergil had stood by the failure to stop his mother's death due to powerlessness and subsequent success since becoming powerful as self validating principle for everything he does or doesn't do.
I can't make heads or tails of this sentence.

>This probably sounded really good to you, but it's immediately undone with a joke phone call.
Dante's life is a bad joke.
Trish, his strained confidante, looks like his dead mother, having to fight people obsessed with the cult of Sparda twice, being the son of the legendary hero and authority figure Sparda but relegated to a job as the human world's janitor whenever demon sewage leaks in.
No castle, no statues, no titles.

It is good because like the series showing there's little to support Vergil's obsession with power decades after he's made an ass of himself, Dante is proof being powerful doesn't guarantee you any glory in life or can't be made an ass of. Nero gets it too.

>This is an assertion that doesn't go anywhere in-game.
Except he literally prefers to go to hell with Vergil to work out his problems than to sit there a day longer.

>N O T H I N G is done after this line with Lady. You bringing it up means nothing.
WHY should there be, it's another highlight from the series that your obsession at one point in your life doesn't make the rest fulfilling. You get NOTHING, good day sir.

>We don't see what Nero's home life is like so this is irrelevant.
He literally brags about how comfortable life is with Kyrie and Nico to a complete stranger (Vergil). Just eating and talking.

>It's the second time.
DMC3 has Dante mention meeting Vergil once before, DMC 3 is the 2nd, DMC1 is the 3rd, DMC5 is the 4th. Each time the same routine.

>No, it needed to be brought up gradually. Do you know how good DMC5 would be if Dante were more like Old Snake?
Dante isn't a genetically gimped clonish baby waiting to die from a bullet or wacky disease.
He has plenty life, capability and agency, his tragedy is less what's done to him and more what he has not done all this time.
The comedy, in DMC fashion, is Nero hovering behind him as blunt suggestion "have you tried getting a life?"

>DMC3 didn't have this problem. Why would you lower your standards?

Yes it did, Dante jumping off Temi-Ni-Gru and getting eaten by Leviathan is fucking stupid but the game does it because its fun and it needed to justify going inside Leviathan and then reclimbing up the tower again.

>mfw I Max-Act right on the money and ONE TWO THREE GO

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...The leviathan isn't the final boss. Why do I gotta explain this shit? Fucking idiots with no taste in writing.

>...The leviathan isn't the final boss

Ok, so you just want to cherrypick and move the goalpost when it lines up with your views, I understand.

>filling in characterization for the writers
Literally anyone who defends DMC5's story.

I think we can agree that the DMC5 script is lame and it retroactively ruins DMC3's story.

No. He jumped off in pursuit of Arkham and Vergil. There is a specific entrance below.

cute

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Based

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>I think we can agree that the DMC5 script is lame and it retroactively ruins DMC3's story.
It only ruins it for people who had made some kind of headcanon about DMC3's story being something else than it actually is. DMC5 has the exact same director, writer and cinematographer as DMC3 had.

>DMC3 has Dante mention meeting Vergil once before, DMC 3 is the 2nd, DMC1 is the 3rd, DMC5 is the 4th. Each time the same routine.

Before DMC3 Lady explains that they have a sibling rivalry and thrive on beating each other up. DMC3 is the first time Vergil has done anything 'catastrophic'.

Being Mundus' bitch in DMC1 and Dante not knowing it was Vergil until his last appearance, after their match, hardly counts as 'same old, same old'.

DMC5 is the true 'second time' for them to fight on a global scale.

It's not a question of defending DMC5's story though. Even If for my part I actually really like the story but the pacing could have been done better. How everything unfold could have been done better that is for sure. And for my part I don't think it ruined 3's story. Somehow they tried something a bit more complex with 5 compared to 3. Still I am not saying it was executed that well. Just that the story is still a good one, Well in my opinion that is. But I respect the fact that you don't like it.

Mary Ann Arkham is cute

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I agree. I see people saying it's bad because it doesn't spell absolutely everything out with exposition dumps but that's also the case for DMC3.
Almost all the depth of DMC3's narrative that people speak of comes from people looking into subtext. If you were to look at 3's narrative on a surface level it's a simple mid-season Kamen Rider rival episode

I think you pointed out the real problem here. For years people have speculated about Vergil's character and his motivations. So when it turned out that it was different than what they expected, they felt like the way he was portrayed in 5 ruined him. Which is completely false, in my opinion. For me, 5 in general, is a pretty good follow up for 3. Of course it has it's flaws, but it's still great.

I might be the only one who only really like DMC3 and 1.
I really want to like 5 but it feels too different. The hallway level design and lack of theme variation.
Bosses like Cerberus and Vergil come back but they feel like a downgrade.
After beating Vergil and saw him go down with Dante I was like "aww nice, finally some underworld levels" but the game just ends there in the most anti-climatic way possible.
The lack of turbo mode and timered BP don't help either.

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How is Vergil accepting defeat and staying in hell at the end of 3 headcanon?
Suddenly in 5 he's like I have to defeat my brother at all cost, it's my life goal.
His reason for wanting power being left a mystery is much better than what we got in 5.
He's right about 'same old, same old'. DMC1 comes after 1 so it adds up. The thing is Dante enjoys that 'same old' like Lady explains/like you say.

You know what was 5 best gameplay amelioration? Calibur actually hitting.

>Caring about Itsuno's self insert easy mode character

It's not suddenly though. Don't forget that between 3 and 5 there is 1,2 (lel) and 4. Well in Vergil's case only 1 really matters.
So as I said, it's not sudden. For me it felt like it was his way of grasping at something to stay alive. But through V, he understood the gravity of everything he's done. The final fight between him and Dante maybe wasn't meant for Vergil to win, but maybe his way to die honorably. But of course, what I am saying is not really canon, just the way I interpreted it.

WE ARE
FALLING

>I really want to like 5 but it feels too different. The hallway level design and lack of theme variation.

DMC1 I can understand but how the fuck do people like DMC3's level design?

Temen-Ni-Gru is fucking terrible, at least with DMC1 you can tell it was an RE game at some point, and the whole map got this nice interconnected flow to it. DMC3 has none of that. The level design is boring at best and confusing at worst. There's no real exploration feeling to any of it, it's all feels like lip-service and extremely superficial. DMC4 is even worse because literally half the game is a giant backtrack and it tries to pass it off as "exploration". The fact that DMC4 even has a world map is laughable in itself.

The tree levels of DMC5 are shitty but at least Itsuno stopped pretending he even remotely cares about level design in DMC.

>implying Nero isn't harder than Dante in 5

>His reason for wanting power being left a mystery is much better than what we got in 5.
It wasn't a mystery, it was because of the loss of his mother and wanting to protect himself and others.

V is Itsuno's self insert easy mode character now.
W H Y. I need dlc new moveset for my boi

The ultimate SDTTDTGUIDT form

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que porra é essa?

I love hysterical V posting

We can easily tell you never played the game by your claim of DMC4 having better level design

Nem eu sei, mas achei legal

I know some prefer their character to be separate, but it's even funnier if you remember that's Vergil.

It's like Clark Kent to Superman, but real.

>claim of DMC4 having better level design

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vergil will get his moveset

You just reminded me of that time I was arguing with a fujo, after jeff spilled V's secret, about the time Itsuno said V was his favorite and the retard didn't get the joke because in an earlier con itsuno mentioned vergil was.

I still don't know if Vergil wearing V's clothes is a blessing or a curse.

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poor esl

>brainlet nerofag can't into simple puzzles
>blames the level design for his faults
Like clockwork

Learn to read you ESL fuckwit

based retard

Vergil has fucking shit taste in clothing, he either wants to look like a weeb or an half naked goth.

are we ever getting co-op it's in the fucking source code. is this just a wait until the special edition thing, because jewish?

>wants to look like a half naked goth
You should read the manga.

Urizen 3 is kicking my ass on DMD and I completely wiped the floor with him as Nero in bp
How do I into Dante bros

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I like his clothes in 5

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>steals the guys accessories
yeah sure he didn't want too

I don't know about co-op, but I can see divergence being SE because of Vergil.

If it is, expect Beo and FE again.

I started with 1 and beat 1, 2, 3 and 4 and I still think 5 is the best.

Clothes are from a thug Griffon and V spotted in an alley and robbed. Considering V's height, there most likely weren't that many choices, at least it's not a dress.

Yeah that's really reaching but ok. I mean nice interpretation. It's ok user, I guess it's nice that you enjoy it.
This is not in DMC3. It's still fan speculation and a better one than what we got in 5. Let's not forget the game keeps telling the player that Vergil wants power to defeat his brother, to prove he's stronger.

Nigger are you fucking retarded or what?
Let me quote your post word by word
>Temen-Ni-Gru is fucking terrible
>The level design is boring at best and confusing at worst.
Do you still want me to believe you didn't say that?
Looks like you are the ESL who needs to learn how to fucking read. Jesus fucking Christ

fuck you these good requests only show up when i can't draw
how depressed do you think dante gets when mother's day arrives?

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Don't reply to dumb nerofags

Starting DMD, first time playing this game. How's my rank so far. Should I got for SS DMD

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What type of demon sword do you guys want in the next dmc game?

That’s the whole point, it was done out of obligation. If Vergil just turned good immediately after coming back because of his experiences as V, people would have hated it.

A short sword that Vergil can use in pair with Yamato.

Not even that user, you're just fucking retarded

>DMC4 is even worse because literally half the game is a giant backtrack and it tries to pass it off as "exploration"
>>>>>>>DMC4 is even worse

>>We can easily tell you never played the game by your claim of DMC4 having better level design
Do you understand now, dickhead?

and better than 5

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>retards thinks its fan speculation
> when there's an official book explaining the brothers motivations and is actually tied to what 5 was also going for as well
k bud.

>Not even that user
Nice try samefaggot

Who the fuck are you quoting? Do you even know how to use this fucking website? it's bit different than Reddit you see. Here, you use the post number to quote people Like that. Yes, you can quote people more than once you stupid newfag nigger.
You're clearly too retarded to read text and too retarded to play games that don't have literal hallways as level design.
Have a pity (You) and get out of my face you tranny retard.

>Should I go for SS DMD
If you want to lose your sanity then go ahead. Why did you even bother with easy mode is the question

I don't find it reaching though but yeah in the end it's only my interpretation, but I do concede that a lot is left to speculation in 5's story. And as I said in a former post, I thnk it's better to see the franchise's story as a whole than taking game by game. For me 5's story and it's characters are an evolution (if that makes sense) of what they were in 3. The way they see things kinda changed. I think there is no doubt when it comes to Vergil that his mother's death was a catalyst for is own behaviour and goals. But it grew into something else with everything he has gone through, throughout 1 and whatever happens to him between 1 and 5. I mean it begun with "I want to gain power because I have been powerless and this will never happen again" to "in my search for power, I got defeated by my own brother, more than once, to get it back I need to defeat him once and for all". But still I respect your opinion, and I find it nice to debate those things.

didn't he like 3 and 5 though

>5's story and it's characters are an evolution
more like a devolution, 5's story is all over the place and was clearly rushed

Nice attempt at deflection, ESL-kun. Learn to follow a reply chain when you take your 4th grade reading comprehension classes.

You're not even attempting to deny that you misread it and lashed out though, kek

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Had to fill out the chart

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I just use trickster for bosses at this point

What are you trying to prove with that screenshot? just how fucking retarded you are?
What exactly did I misread? You complained about 3's level design being confusing and I called you out on your brainlet bullshit.
I think you should go back to dialate, my dude

I actually want to do that but in all games.
Including 2
Here's my progress in 1, well I already S ranked 3 missions on DMD

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>tfw never an option to have Dante, Vergil, Nero, and V in nothing but tight little speedos color-coded to them

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Not him but you're a fucking retard

>original user says that he thinks 3's level design is shit but 4's is even worse
>retard replies that he "obviously never played the game because his claim that DMC4 has better level design"
Are you dyslexic or something user? Do you genuinely not know how to read? Do you not see how fucking retarded the reply is?

That's your opinion, for my part I really like it but I do agree that it could have been done better. Like 2 more missions would have been nice to tie everything up. But of course, with DMC it's always 20 missions. So maybe things could have happened sooner in the game, like the Vergil's being Nero's father reveal. Maybe a few missions earlier would have been better for the pace of the story and the impact it would have to Nero.

Very nice, but even 2, really?
I played it after 1, just for shits, here was the result youtube.com/watch?v=KgQ5_Yse5MA

>an half naked goth.
And this is a bad thing, how?

>user 1 says that 4 has worse level design than 3
>user 2 calls him retarded for saying that 4 has better level design than 3
>i call user 2 a ESL retard for completely misreading the post
Please explain how I'm the retard here.

That's not my post you stupid nigger

>game isn't complete because some textures and polygons weren't included
kys costumefag

So here's the thing, 2 is probably the hardest game in the series to S rank despite being the easiest in terms of actual difficulty. I hate leaving things half finished but if I just can't do it I'll skip straight to 3.

not anyone but you all need to shut the fuck up goddamn

Base 5 has more costumes than Base 4, even if they are recolours

You're the retard who didn't read.
>user 1 says 3 has bad level design
>user 2 replies with something about 4
>user 3 replies to the original user telling him he's a brainlet for getting lost a puzzles
>user 1 gets assblasted and tries to move the goalpost to user 2 even though he left
>user 1 now thinks that user 3 is user 2

Even DmC?

Development has stopped. No Vergil DLC.

I want a DMC game where you get to pick between Dante or Vergil in their own original campaign that tie to each other in some ways with most of the missions ran solo and a few with Dante and Vergil fighting enemies together and 3 or 4 where Vergil and Dante fight each other, I want to be able to have missions where you get to fly and slaughter enemies and the use of different gimmicks and other missions where there's puzzle solving and the enemies can range from being sword wielding flying beasts to insectoid giants that have zero chill.
I want to be able to have bloody palace but I also want a versus match thing too.
The maps gotta be vibrant in colors and epic and cool to look at with creative looks,
the fighting in the game will have way more combos and a slightly altered way of fighting to make it better, the story has to be epic and full of energy and maybe the two brothers can learn something along the way.

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Well I never bought that game so no.

>believing Matt's lies
such a fool

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>Implying they need to develop anything when Vergil is already fully animated

Don't believe their lies. E3 is coming

thinking 1 is the best doesn't mean you have to hate the others

Me too, user.
Literally everyone screaming 'when is Vergil playable in 5/Why is Vergil not an option for favorite character' when V is there
>vergil will get his moveset
Disgusting. Griffon and Shadow died for his sins. They deserve better. Makes no sense story wise but then again Force Edge in 4SE
>about the time Itsuno said V was his favorite and the retard didn't get the joke because in an earlier con itsuno mentioned vergil was
Kek! Oh you, Itsuno! Fuck you tho I liked V and his character is wasted.
A curse. I want my Vergil classy and my V slutty.

I think 1 is the best and I hate the others

Go back up the chain you idiot.
The first reply was a retard claiming that the original poster said that 4 has better level design than 3 despite him saying the exact opposite. Then that user gets called out for being a retard and misreading.
Then what I'm presuming happened is user 3 (as you say) calls him a brainlet for getting lost in 3's puzzles, except he replies to the post making fun of the retard for misreading which makes it seem like he is user 2. Do you understand now?
I don't even agree with that user about 3 having bad level design but if you can't see how retarded this whole chain of posts is then I don't know what else I can say

Would have been better without the coat

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Dragonrider?

Look user, it's time for you to stop being a baby faggot sore loser and accept your defeat.
If you you wanna continue the discussion on the level design I'll be more than glad to BTFO you again.

Again, I'm not even the guy that started talking about level design and I don't agree with him. This has nothing to do with level design and everything to do with a single retard misreading a post

god he's so hot (no homo)

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>Again, I'm not even the guy that started talking about level design
Then why should I care what you have to say? Fuck off

Dragonrider is a Dark Souls 2 boss, yes.
What?

HOLY SHIT user NO,MY HEART

t. butthurt esl

>I want my Vergil classy
I want him to undress his classy clothes with class.

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It's ok when it's Vergil, user.

>no coatless 5 alts
but why itsuno

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Sound files aren't allowed here user.

Kill yourself tranny nigger

Call me a monster, but even this can't make me tear up, not even close. It's a good image.

SE is very likely coming but next year at best

I don't understand this mind set honestly. It's like people here act like the only one you're allowed to think is the best is 3 or saying Hideki Kamiya is a good game director is some sort of personal attack on Itsuno

>People still pretend 5 wasn't average
lel

I'd prefer Dante and Alucard at a pizza place discussing how they loved their mothers.

Yeah, since Vergil is a homo himself.

True, but keep faith user. I love these fanarts.

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and they'll find a way to make us all buy the whole game again, even on PC

Mostly agreed. The story has it’s flaws, but it’s still good and underrated

You're just a man, not a baby.

DMC 3 > 1 > Power gap > 5 > 4 >>> 2

You should only have teared up at Dante and Vergil's epilogue in 5.

>accidentally made a baby with a woman
Yeah, that just screams gay.

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He can't be a homo if he is my husbando.

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Thought you were the Completionist, he's tried to 100% some games that just aren't worth it before and I was going to warn you(him) that DMC2 is maybe not the trench to dig yourself in.

In fact while we're on the topic, I think if Capcom wants to help distance 2 from being too much of a road bump for new players wanting to play the entire series, they should rename the games Devil May Cry, Devil May Cry: Dante's Awakening, Devil May Cry: Nero and Devil May Cry: V.
That way DMC2 is no longer necessarily the 2nd game, it's just part of the series.

When are we gonna talk more about the game's gameplay?

But Vergil had sex, to a woman.
I smiled at that scene.

When it becomes good

how bout you get good

>They deserve better
Nightmares don't deserve shit

This was one of my favorite moment of all time in vidya history for me. I was so happy.

I already did, but Itsuno couldn't keep up and forgot to make a game about Dante

>gay Verjos everywhere

How horrible!

>not shedding a manly tear for Mission 18

Found the DMC3 zoomer

Why don't you start then? What's the point of asking.

Then talk about what you want in DMC6 What can be done with this?

Fair enough, I might actually watch a few videos on DMC2 to see how hard it actually is to S rank.
tfw never beat dmd in any dmc, yet

5 is a game about Vergil but he is not payable ,don't make this joke I know you want to, so be careful what you wish for. They could literally make a game about Dante in the same condition.

Why is she so cute

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>husbando
>fag
trannies don't count

When is Trish making Lady a mother